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SPC

Ugly Truth, why would ethnic Jews (some of whom were atheist/agnostic) accept a religious reason for continued exile? Especially when they had been persecuted in that exile?
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February 9, 2015 5:06pm
Griff

As extremely alcohol addled manolo would understand if he actually read science rather than faux news .
Precipitation is increasingly extreme in many parts of the usa as a result of climate change.
Dry events are dryer and wet events are wetter . .
In places where it is below 0C extreme precipitation often falls as snow.
A nice little picture to help you understand this fact
http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/files/2013/02/NorthEastColdSeasonExtremes.jpg
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February 9, 2015 5:10pm
Nostradamus

UglyTruth:

My experience is only with the [judicial] system in this country.

Where did things go wrong – when you quoted Black’s Law Dictionary, or when you accused the judge of being corrupt?
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February 9, 2015 5:16pm
cricko

OK Ugly Truth

Well done.

Onya for giving it a fair go.
You did, I can’t argue, and I do respect that.

So, you say, there is no judicial system anywhere that can be trusted (totally) and
you don’t know if there is a better system than ours.

Can’t really fault you on that.

As an aside and on a different note,
do you still believe that it is impossible that Lundy is guilty ?
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February 9, 2015 5:29pm
UglyTruth

Where did things go wrong – when you quoted Black’s Law Dictionary, or when you accused the judge of being corrupt?

Are you asking that question because you are ignorant of what happened or simply because you are an asshole?
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February 9, 2015 5:30pm
Longknives

Does anyone else reckon NZ is getting a little cocky about the Cricket World Cup?
I mean- The team is playing better than it has for years, and is a highly competitive One Day Unit..But- The Press claiming three of the top five batsmen in the World are New Zealanders? Trent Boult the best bowler in the World??
I rate this team highly but think our bravado/borderline arrogance about this tournament may well come back to bite us (Think ‘Invincible’ All Blacks in ’07 World Cup..)
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February 9, 2015 5:36pm
nasska

The wafflings of the AGW doom merchants remind me a little of one of Hitler’s speeches about what he intended for the Jews. Just substitute “climate skeptic” for “Jew” & you’ll get the idea of what the proponents of a NWO have in mind for those of us who refuse to drink the Kool-Aid:

….””For us, it is a problem of whether our nation can ever recover its health, whether the Jewish spirit can ever really be eradicated. Don’t be misled into thinking you can fight a disease without killing the carrier, without destroying the bacillus. Don’t think you can fight racial tuberculosis without taking care to rid the nation of the carrier of that racial tuberculosis. This Jewish contamination will not subside, this poisoning of the nation will not end, until the carrier himself, the Jew, has been banished from our midst.”

“If I am ever really in power, the destruction of the Jews will be my first and most important job. As soon as I have power, I shall have gallows after gallows erected, for example, in Munich on the Marienplatz-as many of them as traffic allows. Then the Jews will be hanged one after another, and they will stay hanging until they stink. They will stay hanging as long as hygienically possible. As soon as they are untied, then the next group will follow and that will continue until the last Jew in Munich is exterminated. Exactly the same procedure will be followed in other cities until Germany is cleansed of the last Jew!””….
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February 9, 2015 5:41pm
Griff

Are you asking that question because you are ignorant of what happened or simply because you are an asshole?
translation
Ugly went to court and tried to tell the judge about the law.
The judge laughed at ugly probably giving him a contempt charge in the process.
Ugly still didn’t learn anything .
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February 9, 2015 5:45pm
Akaroa

Coming late to this debate – I know- but i detect some spirited debate about Zionists, Ben Gurion, Jewish settlement in Palestine post 1945, et al.

First off, I have no dislike of the Jewish race per se. (Individuals may be a different story!!)

However, I remember when two Jewish terrorist organisations; ‘Irgun Zvai leumi’ and the ‘Stern Gang” kept British forces and the Palestine Police in Palestine on the hop in the late 1940s. There were recruiting posters in UK for the Palestine Police i recall.

I also recall a couple, at least, of murders of British soldiers committed by these two gangs – the victims were hung in an orange grove i recall – and I also remember when Mr Ben Gurion was a wanted terrorist with a price on his head.

At that time there was a stream of illegal Jewish immigrants from Europe getting into Palestine by various nefarious means. I particularly recall one old tub that was intercepted by the RN to be found full of Jewish would be settlers.

My purpose in posting this? Just reminiscing really. I’ve no beef with the Jews who reclaimed their historic home in Palestine. Long time ago now anyway!

(Ooh! Sorry! I meant Israel of course!!)

One things certain, events since those days have shown that it doesn’t pay to take on the Israelis lightly!!
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February 9, 2015 5:46pm
Viking2

Christ you lot need a chill out.
Nothing sensible all day. Relax and laugh a bit.

I was visiting my daughter last night when
I asked if I could borrow a newspaper.

“This is the 21st century,” she said.

“We don’t waste money on
newspapers. Here, use my iPad.”

I can tell you this. That fly never knew what hit him.

😆 😆 😆
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February 9, 2015 5:52pm
Griff

Stupid sheep will not be prosecuted for being sheep nasska they are not smart enough to know any better .
But those who deliberately lie will be .
http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/02/07/climate-scientist-wins-defamation-suit-against-national-post/
A B.C. Supreme Court judge has ordered the National Post to pay climate scientist Andrew Weaver $50,000 in damages in a defamation suit over articles published in 2009 and 2010.

At the time of publication, Mr. Weaver was the Canada Research Chair in climate modelling and analysis in the School of Earth and Ocean Sciences at the University of Victoria. He had also contributed to the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Mr. Weaver is currently a Green Party MLA.

The defamation suit focused on four articles by journalists Terence Corcoran, Peter Foster and Kevin Libin. Mr. Weaver said his character had been publicly defamed in the series of articles that suggested he was attempting to deflect attention away from the hacking of climate scientists’ computer systems, a controversy dubbed “Climategate” by many commentators.

In her Thursday ruling, Justice Emily Burke concluded the writers “espouse a skeptical view of climate change” that led them to deliberately create a negative impression of Mr. Weaver.
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February 9, 2015 5:53pm
SPC

Akaroa, for Jews who served in British units fighting the Germans it was fighting the enemy of their enemy. Once that war was won it was back to Palestine and resisting British occupation – and it was the British policy to block Jewish migration into Palestine (from 1939) that kept them in Europe to be killed.

Then Irgun and Stern became the enemy of the new Jewish government of Israel. One rule of the gun and all that.
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February 9, 2015 5:58pm
UglyTruth

Do you still believe that it is impossible that Lundy is guilty ?

No, there is a plausible timeline when the case is not restricted by the post mortem results.

The main problem now is that the Crown wants to have another go, exposing Lundy to double jeapordy.
Beyond reasonable doubt isn’t a high enough bar: the system itself is flawed because it will try to pad out an insufficient case with bullshit like psychic testimony that was invalidated by the facts and and an impossibly fast drive that was used because the burden of proof was shifted.

In NZ the Crown has a history of fitting people up for high profile cases, then they tell the jurors to trust the system, it’s a fucking disgrace.
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February 9, 2015 6:01pm
Nostradamus

UglyTruth:

Are you asking that question because you are ignorant of what happened or simply because you are an asshole?

I’m asking that question because of this statement on your website:

For me, this issue began with the New Zealand government dishonouring the old lifetime driver licences. We currenly have the absurd situation in this country where the courts recognize the right to use a public road, but law enforcement agencies maintain that driving is a privilege and a licence must be obtained in order to acquire this same right. The legislation defines a motor vehicle to be a contrivance, but this term is ambiguous in that it can refer to either a physical machine or to an intangible legal concept. Exactly how ambiguous language should be interpreted by the courts is the subject of this document, and I will elaborate on this further on.

In September 2011 Judge Richard Russell admitted to committing fraud during a preliminary hearing regarding charges relating to alleged unlicenced use of a motor vehicle. He subsequently asked me an extensive technical legal question which, in my opinion, was an attempt to draw attention away from his previous unlawful act. When pressed on the issue of the fraud, he responded with “it’s the rules”. As a result of this fraud I was wrongfully imprisoned for a little over a month. The defended hearing did not take place until April 30th 2012, and time served was not taken into account during sentencing.

It seems – despite your suggestion to the contrary – that the judge didn’t agree with your submission that he had committed fraud.
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February 9, 2015 6:02pm
nasska

….”In her Thursday ruling, Justice Emily Burke concluded the writers “espouse a skeptical view of climate change” that led them to deliberately create a negative impression of Mr. Weaver.”…..

Obviously Justice Burke wishes the truth muzzled too Griff. The only question left is that of her preferred flavour of Kool-Aid.
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February 9, 2015 6:05pm
Griff

😆
Drinking coolaid would be going against the published opinion on agw of every major scientific body on the planet nasska
That is up there with having an imaginary friend .
Especially when the evidence mounts daily for the difficulty climate changes are bringing in our agriculture dependent nation.
Drought or wet seems to be the story over the last five years at least for were I have been.
I was up in whangaroa when they had a massive rain storm a few years back with water falls no one had ever seen before going straight though property’s .http://www.whangaroa.co.nz/Kaeo.cfm
The first year up at the Bach it was soaking wet I couldn’t get the lawns mowed until February as even four wheel drive tractors just got bogged down.
Last year it was to dry with thirty year old pungas dieing all over the place.
Open your eyes nasska and you will see the changes in climate all around you
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February 9, 2015 6:25pm
waikatogirl

The 17 year old who knocked Lucy Knight unconscious in a supermarket car park when she was protecting anothet woman has been jailed for 5 years. He was out on bail after attacking another woman. Lucy was the 2nd woman he attacked after the one he had been charged for. He was a dope smoker and had progressed to smoking meth. His mother had abandoned him and his younger sister to start a new relationship without her children in tow. He told the cops he was stealing money for food, although one woman was attacked for her cigarettes.

The judge said his parents should be standing in the dock next to him.

Lucy Knight doesn’t believe he will be safe to release after his prison sentence…
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February 9, 2015 6:31pm
Longknives

“has been jailed for 5 years.”

‘Time Served’ and Geoffrey Palmer’s ridiculous Parole Laws will see him out on the Streets attacking innocent people again within 2-3 years..
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February 9, 2015 6:39pm
Manolo

So, according to addled Griff EVERY atmospheric irregularity or phenomenon can be attributed to AGW. Gullibility and blindness to the nth degree.
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February 9, 2015 6:40pm
cricko

Ugly Truth,

It’s evident from your comments that you have nil comprehension of the concept of double jeopardy (including
the spelling of the word)

And, just yesterday you were saying that it was ‘ impossible’ that Lundy was guilty.
Now you change your tune.

And, then you make a very stupid statement. viz

“In New Zealand the Crown has a history of fitting people up for high profile cases.”

Silly billy.

I made the mistake of giving you the benefit of the doubt earlier.
I was wrong.

You are just a fool.
A silly young fool.
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February 9, 2015 6:44pm
nasska

Griff

I’ve been involved with agriculture, either in the transport industry then farming for myself since I left school. I doubt that, weather wise, any one of those nearly fifty years would be exactly like any other. We have southerlies in winter that bring rain & cold & mud up to your balls. We have Nor-westers in Spring & Summer that burn everything to a crisp. Then sometimes it’s worse or better.

The one thing I have learnt is that the second you think you’ve got a pattern sorted out & you can predict what will happen Mother Nature will prove her contempt for mortal man.

It’s known as East Coast farming & why I in turn have contempt for climate scientists & their crap.
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February 9, 2015 6:44pm
waikatogirl

Nasska, same for the Waikato :). The weather always keeps you guessing. 23 degrees just now in February! Normally the hottest month of the year, not this year! Global warming, my arse 🙂
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February 9, 2015 6:54pm
Manolo

No point in arguing with addled Griff, who is an AGW fundamentalist and bigot of the worst kind.
Amen.
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February 9, 2015 6:56pm
SPC

The UK is considering protection orders for race hate, that is banning certain people from the internet because of their “speech”.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31246808
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February 9, 2015 6:57pm
Inandout

Longknives: Geoffrey Palmer is an out of touch trougher lawyer, and this says everything about the NZ he left us:

‘While Palmer held the country’s top political job for 13 months, his major achievements were his earlier management of Cabinet and more particularly of Lange. The author of the influential book Unbridled Power?, he set up the royal commission that recommended switching to the Mixed Member Proportional (MMP) voting system, passed the New Zealand Constitution Act 1986 and laid the groundwork for the Resource Management Act.

Knighted in 1991, Palmer returned to academia and established Chen Palmer & Partners. He has published and broadcast on matters of constitutional law and in 2005 became President of the New Zealand Law Commission’.
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February 9, 2015 6:58pm
cricko

History will recall that the effing idiot,

the trumpet playing inept drongo Geoffrey Palmer did even
more to fuck up New Zealand than Helen Clark did.

In fact Palmer would take the prize so far because that fuckwit did his damage in a much
shorter time.
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February 9, 2015 7:00pm
Lucia Maria

‘Time Served’ and Geoffrey Palmer’s ridiculous Parole Laws will see him out on the Streets attacking innocent people again within 2-3 years..

At some point we’re going to need concealed carry laws, maybe for grannies to start with. It would make weenies that attack women think twice.
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February 9, 2015 7:00pm
Griff

According to drink addled manolo even when the evidence is right in front of you it can just be ignored .
Instead just rabbit talking points from faux news.
A single weather event can not be 100% directly attributed to climate change.
A warmer atmosphere is predicted to hold more moisture simple physics not even needing a computer model to conclude
Unprecedented extreme rainfall events are happening more frequently all around the globe. Mounting evidence of a trend supporting the prediction. . The two together support the fact projected climate change is happening.
http://mashable.com/2014/08/12/detroit-flooding-global-warming/
http://blogs.mprnews.org/updraft/2014/08/unprecedented-all-time-record-rain-swamps-long-island/
http://www.adelaide.edu.au/news/news58961.html
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/02/130201100036.htm

PS
stick your head in the sand and go nah nah nah nasska
Anti science is the Provence of the deluded.
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February 9, 2015 7:05pm
nasska

….”The UK is considering protection orders for race hate, that is banning certain people from the internet because of their “speech”. “….

As the article reveals, the protection is intended to stop “anti-Semantic” attacks.

A dollar bet will get you not very much at all in the way of odds that the Muslims will continue at will with their vendettas against the Jews yet anyone criticising Islam will be left voiceless & probably incarcerated.

Could be a handy bit of legislation for an unpopular Government should the need ever arise too.
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February 9, 2015 7:09pm
waikatogirl

Manolo: No point in arguing with addled Griff, who is an AGW fundamentalist and bigot of the worst kind.

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Wouldn’t dream of it Manolo. Just agreeing with Nasska 🙂
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February 9, 2015 7:12pm
SPC

nasska, imagine all the like minded people crowding together in libraries or internet cafes so they can continue the online comment using a rented computer.

I suspect within 10 years MI5 will run, or have surveillance in, most internet cafes and libraries.
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February 9, 2015 7:13pm
nasska

https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Climate%20Crap%201C.jpg?_subject_uid=133369922&w=AAAnd6hAJQNQKX3W21cbtUxhq08Ltg4FET8rcorT6Ga-9g
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February 9, 2015 7:18pm
Griff

Waikato girl
Hamiltons (the nearest station )temperatures over time is the global warming signal not today’s weather .
http://berkeleyearth.lbl.gov/locations/37.78S-174.92E

24 degrees is the historical average daytime temperature for waikato in feb. That you think 1C under average temp is cool shows global warmings effect on your perceptions.

http://www.myweather2.com/City-Town/New-Zealand/Waikato/climate-profile.aspx
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February 9, 2015 7:22pm
cricko

nasska

your dollar would be well invested.

Thing is, what has happened to common sense ?

The PC brigade promote free speech for all, unless you criticise islam.

But, slowly, very slowly,

it’s starting to piss people off.

We can only hope that the pissed off ‘ed outnumber the PCs before we are all fucked.
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February 9, 2015 7:26pm
Harriet

….”The UK is considering protection orders for race hate, that is banning certain people from the internet because of their “speech”. “….

When it was first proposed the civil liberties people -AND- the right, both fronted the press together and said that it would cause untold problems.

They said that a judge would find it very difficult to deny a person internet access if he was confronted with 1000 ‘racist comments’ – meaning that anyone who gets into a debate on the internet over race, and it continues for a week or so would come across as a racist, or a person who writes comments on 10 news blogs everyday.

And no – it’s not really about race – but religion – the muslim religion. Devout Jews, Atheists and Christians have been arguing for years on the internet and have not gone and killed anyone over it, nor have they felt ‘bullied enough’ to kill themselves. ——–Well I haven’t heard of it happening.
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February 9, 2015 7:27pm
publicwatchdog

Interesting that while on Mike Sabin’s watch as Chair of the Law and Order Select Committee, Grace Haden’s petition (Number 2011/117) for an Independent Commission Against Corruption effectively goes down the Parliamentary ‘gurgler’?

How convenient ….

Penny Bright
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February 9, 2015 7:40pm
wikiriwhis business

NZ manufacturers’ export sales fall in December

Manufacturers’ export sales have fallen for a second month in a row, the New Zealand Manufacturing and Exporters Association reports, but manufacturers remain upbeat.

The monthly survey of member manufacturers and exporters, whose total combined annual sales are $332 million, shows a fall in December export sales by 7.9 per cent when compared with the previous December, while domestic sales rose 14.07 per cent.

Total export and domestic sales were flat from December 2013.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/65956020/nz-manufacturers-export-sales-fall-in-december

Hmmm….this will be the manufacturing crisis.
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February 9, 2015 7:43pm
UglyTruth

It’s evident from your comments that you have nil comprehension of the concept of double jeopardy (including
the spelling of the word)

It means (more or less) being tried for the same crime twice.

And, just yesterday you were saying that it was ‘ impossible’ that Lundy was guilty.

Yes, within the context for the first case, which was using the post mortem results.

Now you change your tune.

Yes, because the post mortem is now non-issue within the context of the second case,

And, then you make a very stupid statement. viz

“In New Zealand the Crown has a history of fitting people up for high profile cases.”

It’s not stupid.
Arthur Alan Thomas (planted rifle cartridge), and Scott Watson, (the false testimony of confession from police pressure).
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February 9, 2015 7:48pm
waikatogirl

Griff: 24 degrees is the historical average daytime temperature for waikato in feb. That you think 1C under average temp is cool shows global warmings effect on your perceptions.

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Good try. I can tell when it is warmer and cooler than normal. I have lived here a good number of years, mostly all my life. It is pleasantly cool for this time of the year.

Maybe we had our global warming in January? It was a lovely long month of warmer weather. Whatever, we enjoyed the sunshine 😉
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February 9, 2015 7:49pm
stigie

No manufacturing crisis Wiki, export sales could rise over the next 2 months so whats the problem ?

I think you wish there was a crisis just like most lefties !~
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February 9, 2015 7:52pm
Dennis Horne

waikatogirl. Weather, not climate.

Globally, the surface temperatures appear to be rising.

How much is attributable to man?
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February 9, 2015 7:55pm
minus

Penny Bright, you comment 7.40pm as to the demise of Haden’s petition is devoid of FACTS to support your considered opinion of “How convenient”
The Report Back has no indication of the committee’s voting, other than the petition is rejected.
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February 9, 2015 8:02pm
nasska

….”The threat of environmental crisis will be the “international disaster key” that will unlock the New World Order.”…..

Mikhail Gorbachev, “A Special Report: The Wildlands Project Unleashes It’s War On Mankind,” 1996
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February 9, 2015 8:02pm
Griff

Good try. I can tell when it is warmer and cooler than normal. I have lived here a good number of years, mostly all my life. It is pleasantly cool for this time of the year.
😆
Despite the presented evidence you are still relying on your “feelings”.
Ever heard of slowly boiling a frog ?
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February 9, 2015 8:10pm
SPC

“The threat of environmental crisis will be the “international disaster key” that will unlock the New World Order.”

Classic, the former head of the Soviet Union’s communist party parrots the line of the global corporate industry bosses that pollution is not a problem and those who say it is are part of a conspiracy against the way the world currently does business.

Given how polluted the Soviet Union was by their state owned industry, and how dependent Russia is on their carbon export (oil and gas) this strange bedfellow relationship is not as surprising as one might first imagine.
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February 9, 2015 8:15pm
cha

“The threat of environmental crisis will be the “international disaster key” that will unlock the New World Order.”

Ahem…

“The first screw to work loose in a person’s head is the one that holds the tongue in place.”

― Janet Lane
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February 9, 2015 8:23pm
stigie

I see our native feathered friend got 2 months suspension…shit he seems to go hard.

One or two here have asked him to tone it down a tad. Wonder if he will listen ?
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February 9, 2015 8:28pm
SPC

And of course since 1996, it has been the war against terrorism that has changed the world in which we live – justified the surveillance state and all that.
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February 9, 2015 8:34pm
nasska

Griff

From time to time you drop gentle hints that you think that the climate’s changing. You’ve also subtly indicated that you think the scientists might be on the right track.

I haven’t actually got deep feelings one way or the other. This mostly because as my role as the frog in the slow cooker I might not notice a rise of a millionth of a degree over a couple of decades. Also as I’m focussed on farming while staying solvent I don’t have a lot of time or inclination to read academic papers even if I could understand them.

Added to this is the full knowledge that should the boffins be on the money there’s actually jackshit that I or the combined efforts of my fellow New Zealanders could do about it other than bankrupt ourselves as a futile gesture in solidarity with Ghaia.

So here comes the tricky bit that hopefully you will favour with straight answers:

Why are you so certain that the whole issue, regardless of whether it is fact or fiction, hasn’t been hijacked by the proponents of a NWO? Don’t you concede that there’s a good chance that you are being played as a puppet by those who seek world dominance?
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February 9, 2015 8:37pm
Rowan

This shows the desperation of the crown in the Lundy case, using a jailhouse snitch – what a joke

“A prisoner who spent time behind bars with Lundy will give evidence. Morgan said Lundy told the inmate he would not have been in prison if it was not for his daughter seeing what he was doing to his wife.”
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February 9, 2015 8:40pm
nasska

….”One or two here have asked him to tone it down a tad. Wonder if he will listen ?”….

He may have gone beyond that point stigie. During his brief visit last Friday/Saturday he seemed to indicate that he was on a kamikaze mission, KB was against him & that he was determined to go out with a bang.

When Kea’s off the Jewish discussions he’s good blog company & often offers highly informed debate…..it’s a bloody pity he can’t stay away from the subject.
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February 9, 2015 8:44pm
cricko

Hey Ugly, and fellow travelers,

A word to the wise.
“When in hole, stop digging.”

Can you dig yourself deeper than @ 7.48 ?

G’nite to you Ugly and good luck to your family.

You poor young misguided fool.

And now Rowan has chimed in.
That silly fool does not even warrant a response.
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February 9, 2015 8:48pm
SPC

nasska, the NWO stuff is irrelevant to the veracity of AGW – it is just a term used to demonise the other in a global power struggle.

Basically the struggle that once occurred only within the autonomous nation state has moved onto the wider world as we build a global market rules based system.

Those who favour government input and those who favour corporate freedom are in a struggle for dominance at the global market level as the sovereignty of the nation state over economic activity is diminished.
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February 9, 2015 8:51pm
UglyTruth

Can you dig yourself deeper than @ 7.48 ?

Looks like you didn’t have a point to make after all that, cricko.

Good night to you and yours, you fake.
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February 9, 2015 8:55pm
Griff

😆
conspiracy nasska ?
I developed my views since I arrived here.
The likes of wat, right now and other andy were always linking to logically flawed junk and blatant lies when I followed their links.
I did not start going to pro AGW sites until after I worked out that the denial squad was linking to rubbish.
When I did start going to actual science sites like sksc, open mind and real climate I found their information was honest logical and always linked to the actual scientific papers rather than news papers or a self referencing echochamber of blogs Even the comments sections were measurably more sane.
Science is not greatly influenced by politics .
Getting every major scientific body to support agw if it is not based on sound science would be equivalence of herding with sheep dogs 1000 feral cats into a trough in a paddock ..absolutely impossible to do
I dont usually even go near political solutions I just Argue the fact of AGW not the political; possible answers
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February 9, 2015 8:58pm
UglyTruth

This shows the desperation of the crown in the Lundy case, using a jailhouse snitch – what a joke

I wonder the police put him up to it like for Scott Watson.
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February 9, 2015 8:58pm
cricko

SPC

can you interpret what you were trying to say @ 8.51 into English ?

Take your last paragraph.
What TF was that supposed to mean ?

For fucks sake.

Can you be a little more precise ?

You fuckin moron.
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February 9, 2015 9:00pm
renderer

What rubbish will you now spout Penny, after your disastrous prediction that Tony Abbot would be gone in the spill vote?
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February 9, 2015 9:03pm
nasska

….”Those who favour government input and those who favour corporate freedom are in a struggle for dominance at the global market level as the sovereignty of the nation state over economic activity is diminished”….

I agree with most of what you state SPC…..the divide is basically Communist totalitarianism vs Corporate totalitarianism. My point is that the great unwashed are generally too thick to think that through.

That is where the boogieman of AGW becomes the tool of the Commie NWO. It’s simple, can be explained by “science” & appeals to the emotions that lie deep in the tummies of the otherwise uninformed. I’m not claiming that AGW was the invention of the social engineers of the UN.

It’s just a hijacked vehicle to an end destination.
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February 9, 2015 9:04pm
cricko

SPC

Maybe you should ask your professor at Waikato what the fuck you were trying to say.

You poor sad fuck.
And if you are not just full of puke you will be able to express WTF you were trying to say in your last paragraph @ 8.51
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February 9, 2015 9:09pm
Dennis Horne

I don’t think evidence from fellow inmates is generally worth considering. I would not object if prisons were bugged, however.

Didn’t Hislop QC, represent Lundy at the Privy Counsel? Based in London, isn’t he?
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February 9, 2015 9:10pm
SPC

nasska, yeah sure, AGW is one of the areas where the two forces will conflict at the global level.
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February 9, 2015 9:12pm
nasska

….”Getting every major scientific body to support agw if it is not based on sound science would be equivalence of herding with sheep dogs 1000 feral cats into a trough in a paddock ..absolutely impossible to do”….

Maybe Griff. Yet instead of herding them I was thinking along the lines of leading them with a bait.

In the case of the cats….a fish. In the case of scientists…..money.

But back to my original query…..surely you must have formed some political opinion over countering AGW.
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February 9, 2015 9:12pm
SPC

cricko,

word to the wise.
“When in hole, stop digging.”
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February 9, 2015 9:14pm
Griff

You have been exposed to far too much redtwat nasska he has perverted your thinking
Maggie Thatcher ring a bell ?
she was such a commie eh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fys5Z63xCvA
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February 9, 2015 9:15pm
cricko

Another lovely day.

G’nite all.

And good luck to your families.
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February 9, 2015 9:20pm
nasska

I reckon it’s about time we started a “bring back Baity” campaign Griff. Things have got to a fine pickle when we’re reduced to debating AGW & watching the speeches of Margaret Thatcher instead of winding up the Great Conservative. 🙂
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February 9, 2015 9:20pm
EAD

Tactical-nuke exploded in Donetsk, Ukraine yesterday?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-08/meanwhile-donetsk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuQ5EPnSE_4
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February 9, 2015 9:29pm
Griff

He will be back
it says so here
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Leaving_and_never_coming_back
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February 9, 2015 9:30pm
SPC

Mini nukes in Teheran

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-31164583
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February 9, 2015 9:40pm
cricko

By the way…
last word…
I agree totally

Not enough!
But….

http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/good-samaritan-doubts-sentence-long-enough-her-attacker-change-6230866

The alternative is…

Oh ! The poor sod.
What can we expect.
It wasn’t his fault.
We are all responsible.

The poor hard done by shit head…

If only all his land had not been stolen 200 years ago then he could have amounted to
something.
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February 9, 2015 9:40pm
stigie

“He will be back”

You are dead right there Griff, there is nobody to argue with at Trueblue, apart from himself !~
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February 9, 2015 9:55pm
cha

What a tactical nuke detonation looks like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RKXuQ8lOe8

Pepcon disaster in Henderson NV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K0cEX9ex3U
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February 9, 2015 10:02pm
Rowan

Cricko
Guilty or not Lundy is entitled to a fair trial and the crown paying a jailhouse snitch to testify is nothing short of corrupt.
For once I actually agree with Dennis about something, yes bug the cells by all means but don’t resort to a snitch, he can say anything he likes there is absolutely no way any of his testimony can be verified.
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February 9, 2015 10:14pm
fylde

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11398997

Must be hard for NZ herald reporters to comment given their Saturday columnist – sure they will be professional though
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February 9, 2015 10:15pm
Rowan

Not looking to good for the crown already

“It was not until last year that scrapings from under the fingernails of Christine and Amber were tested and DNA was found from two strangers, the same DNA under both their fingernails, Burns said.”

Cricko that in itself is “reasonable doubt” that Lundy is not the “only person” who could have carried out these crimes.
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February 9, 2015 10:24pm
Nostalgia-NZ

Unbelievable that the scrapings weren’t test until last year. Thank the system for working correctly that hadn’t seen them destroyed – maybe they were in a science lab storage.
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