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February 5, 2015 8:00am by Kokila Patel

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Manolo

Now the Stone Agers want to make money from water! A Waitangi gift to all NZ.
Iwi claim it as their right.
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February 5, 2015 6:11pm
dad4justice

Maori own our water!! This country is fucked. Time to get some hard core politicians to stop this long running rort!!

These greedy magpies are disgusting.
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February 5, 2015 6:16pm
Michael

Reid,
Nothing wrong with having an open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out.
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February 5, 2015 6:17pm
stephieboy

Reid,

“Dennis you shouldn’t bother forming an opinion on 911 until you understand the basics. The buildings were DESIGNED to WITHSTAND impacts from PRECISELY the types of planes that hit them.”

The towers were designed to withstand the impact of a Boeing 707 flying at c 180mph not much larger planes like 767’s flying at max speed nearly fully fuel laden !,

http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc_707_impact.html
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February 5, 2015 6:20pm
Dennis Horne

Thanks, stephieboy, for checking the details, I remember now it was B707-rated. But that was only the design – everything perfect. The problem (of under-engineering) was compounded by the fact that the trusses were no longer fire-proof so when they were heated by the fire they bent and failed.

Much of the energy generated at the site was due to the huge mass of material with huge potential energy falling under gravity.

If it were a conspiracy someone would have coughed by now. Someone with a conscience. It was an evil act.
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February 5, 2015 6:41pm
wikiriwhis business

“Citation needed.”

Just keep reading this blog. Pffffffff
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February 5, 2015 6:49pm
Nostradamus

wikiriwhis business:

Just keep reading this blog. Pffffffff

I see – so you can’t substantiate your claim. Thanks for clearing that up! That “Pffffffff” is coming right back at you!
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February 5, 2015 6:54pm
stigie

“Pffffffff” Poof…whats the difference ?
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February 5, 2015 7:03pm
Johnboy

Vivid Black marker or Vivid Blue marker? Or a combination of the two? Any ideas from youse kulturally sensitive chaps/chapesses wot combination I should wear to pop over to the Queensgate on the morrow?? 🙂
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February 5, 2015 7:05pm
nasska

https://www.dropbox.com/s/nmw3te64s98lem7/Atheist%207.jpg?dl=0
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February 5, 2015 7:07pm
Shawn Herles

and all I will say on that is that the facts are easily discoverable if you have an open mind.

Reid, I think you mean the conspiracy THEORIES are discoverable, if you are the sort of person to take conspiracy web sites seriously. I don’t think that has anything to do with having an open mind.

And as stephie, bless his liberal heart, has shown here today with that example, and shown on many other days, those theories don’t stand up to close scrutiny.
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February 5, 2015 7:07pm
Johnboy

Would I be regarded as avant garde if I chopped the arse out of my rugby shorts and got the missus to draw a lovely design on my arse before I went?

All these kultural kuestions must be arsked before our founding day! 🙂
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February 5, 2015 7:08pm
Manolo

@Johnboy: You should wear gin-coloured trousers and vodka-coloured shirt, matching a pair of Guinness-black shoes.
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February 5, 2015 7:09pm
Shawn Herles

Would I be regarded as avant garde if I chopped the arse out of my rugby shorts and got the missus to draw a lovely design on my arse before I went?

I’m going to go out on a limb and say no. 😉
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February 5, 2015 7:10pm
Johnboy

You were just 0.0001 of a second faster than that minus bastard tonight Manolo! 🙂
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February 5, 2015 7:11pm
Johnboy

My missus is one of the most artistically talented ewes you have never met Shawn! 🙂
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February 5, 2015 7:13pm
Griff

You should wear gin-coloured trousers and vodka-coloured shirt, matching a pair of Guinness-black shoes.

I think that may be manolo fantasizing about you there JB
Bit of a worry.
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February 5, 2015 7:16pm
Johnboy

Anyway wot about the chap from Wainui that got seven speeding tickets in a week?

I’m getting a tad worried about the intellectual capacity of them Martians really.

He never asked the Cops where the OTHER CAMERA (top of the hill) has gone to! 🙂

Perhaps they could pop on here and tell us were it is? 🙂
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February 5, 2015 7:19pm
Johnboy

My Gummys are black Griff! My trousers are all lanolin coloured but the zips slide real easy! 🙂
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February 5, 2015 7:21pm
Griff

My gummys have red bits JB .
helps to find your feet when slipping in cow shit.
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February 5, 2015 7:26pm
Johnboy

I used to drink (and enjoy) Redband before the fuckin Jafas took over Lion Breweries Griff! 🙂
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February 5, 2015 7:32pm
Johnboy

Now the useless Jafa bastards have sold it to the Jappers!!!! ?
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February 5, 2015 7:33pm
Johnboy

You can only blame it on the greedy Jews really! 🙂
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February 5, 2015 7:34pm
Johnboy

Fuck you’re fast minus!! 🙂

There is a life outside KB you know! 🙂
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February 5, 2015 7:35pm
nasska

Fifty Shades of Grey is set to be the sexiest film ever, unless you are Welsh in which case it’s the Shawn the Sheep movie.
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February 5, 2015 7:49pm
Reid

Perhaps some people missed it above.

http://irishsavant.blogspot.com.au/2015/02/in-case-you-were-wondering-about-zog.html

Is the attack on the Liberty a theory, or a fact?

And if it IS a FACT, what pray tell does this FACT tell us?
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February 5, 2015 7:53pm
Johnboy

Surely we could do a better screenplay than that nasska?

What about “Simon the Sheep escapes from Eketahuna in the boot of Judiths Holden and finds true happiness in Wainui” ?

Come in Peter Jackson! 🙂
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February 5, 2015 7:54pm
Johnboy

Simon and Judith would both be welcome of course as long as they paid! 🙂
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February 5, 2015 7:58pm
Gulag1917

Malcontents out to undermine PM Tony Abbott
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/opinion/malcontents-out-to-undermine-pm/story-fnj45fvc-1227208300880
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February 5, 2015 8:00pm
Griff

http://www.muchgames.com/games/suicide-sheep
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February 5, 2015 8:00pm
nasska

A true romantic adventure story JB. An escapee from the freezing works yards charms middle aged spinster but finds true love in the arms of a Wainuiomartian pensioner.

Real chick flick potential. 🙂
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February 5, 2015 8:01pm
Kea

Johnboy, I thought the “Moooslems” would have taken care of you by now. Clearly the threat is over stated.
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February 5, 2015 8:02pm
Johnboy

Difficult to believe you’re still here Kea!

I thought the Esmailly sect would have done for you by now! 🙂

It’s those fuckin Baaslems I worry about! 🙂
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February 5, 2015 8:05pm
nasska

Welcome back O’Feathered One. 🙂
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February 5, 2015 8:06pm
Johnboy

Would it help my love life (with the lady of my dreams) if I wangled a free ride on the buses for her with my Winston card nasska? 🙂
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February 5, 2015 8:08pm
Kea

I am too busy fighting off attacks from Christian Narks to have the luxury of worrying about NZ’s handful of Muzzies 😉
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February 5, 2015 8:09pm
Harriet

Welcome back goose. 😎
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February 5, 2015 8:10pm
dad4justice

What is a “Christian Nark” Kea?
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February 5, 2015 8:11pm
nasska

It would likely set her heart a flutter JB. Failing that you could get her a lift in the nearest stock truck. 🙂
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February 5, 2015 8:12pm
Johnboy

I’ve used my Winston card once nasska. I got $5 off the doctors bill.

I’m not sure if it was because I used the card or because I finally let him stick his finger up my arse! 🙂
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February 5, 2015 8:12pm
Kea

Did you miss me mad Dad ?

I was away on my yearly hajj.

Are you sure you are not breaching those release conditions by continuing to post online ?
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February 5, 2015 8:13pm
stigie

“I’m not sure if it was because I used the card or because I finally let him stick his finger up my arse!” 🙂

Of course you asked your doctor for that delightful examination JB ??
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February 5, 2015 8:19pm
dad4justice

“Are you sure you are not breaching those release conditions by continuing to post online ?”

So you are still a slimy malicious writer of false allegations. Your cowardly type are better off well away from a keyboard.You will be banned again in a couple of days you disgusting insult.
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February 5, 2015 8:23pm
Johnboy

I figured it was better he did it before the LHCC did stigie! 🙂
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February 5, 2015 8:24pm
Kea

Dad, come on, where is that famous sense of humour you are so noted for ? 😆
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February 5, 2015 8:25pm
Johnboy

Kea is an aviator Dad. We all thought you liked those chaps? 🙂
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February 5, 2015 8:25pm
dad4justice

Shove your smiley face you know where you cowardly creep.
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February 5, 2015 8:27pm
Kea

Dad, now remember the drill:

1. Breath deeply and slowly.

2. Impotently hit the down vote button.

3. Wipe spittle from screen.

4. Type one of your stock phrases you plagiarised from someone with half a brain.
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February 5, 2015 8:30pm
Johnboy

Anyway Dad.

What’s your position on the dastardly spear-dancing crap we will be forced to endure tomorrow, unless (like me), we never turn on our TV’s? 🙂
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February 5, 2015 8:33pm
dad4justice

TAB is paying evens you be a permanent ban before Easter you cracked egghead.
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February 5, 2015 8:33pm
Kea

Dad, I feel flattered that others would take such a keen interest in my tepid and dull commentary. As my biggest fan, perhaps you could be the first to use my toll FREE number 0800 GIVE A SHIT 🙂
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February 5, 2015 8:36pm
stigie

Geez Dad, go easy on him ole chap until he gets his rocks off !~
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February 5, 2015 8:36pm
Griff

Talking of banned
Just made a trip to the festering sewer of sycophantic circle jerking.
7 posts today.
starting with
Hi readers. Thought a new theme may reactivate my interest in blogging. Been working fairly intensely for the last year or so but things have quietened down a bit now so maybe I will have the time.

😆
You have reignited truly pooh redtwit because you have been banned from here.
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February 5, 2015 8:37pm
dad4justice

“What’s your position on the dastardly spear-dancing crap we will be forced to endure tomorrow, unless (like me), we never turn on our TV’s?”

Will another maori thug put a couple of shotgun shells into the NZ flag again I mean to say he was not charged by the culturally sensitive keystone cops? If a white-man had done it he would serve 5 years hardcore prison!
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February 5, 2015 8:37pm
Kea

Griff, yes I noted Red’s name on the Honour Roll of the fallen heroes. He will be one sour-puss when he returns. 😯
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February 5, 2015 8:40pm
Johnboy

That’s a bloody harsh riposte you got from the “Welsh Sheepbreeders Gazette” then Griff lad?

I never thought they were that inbred till now bach! 🙂
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February 5, 2015 8:41pm
Kea

Will another maori thug… blah blah

Dad, I don’t think you are capturing the spirit of day. That is no way to talk about the grievances of the Maori people.

Say sorry and all will be forgiven 🙂
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February 5, 2015 8:42pm
Johnboy

“Say sorry and all will be forgiven”

Money will also be part of the forgiveness! 🙂
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February 5, 2015 8:45pm
stephieboy

Reid, Irish Savant ? Yeah the usual anti jewish dross and hatred including naturally Holocaust Denial

Yawn..!

http://irishsavant.blogspot.co.nz/search?q=Holocaust
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February 5, 2015 8:52pm
Johnboy

Johnboy and his pet Coon dancing for Waitangi Day! 🙂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8rnHXV7A8Q
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February 5, 2015 9:05pm
Shawn Herles

Ugh.

Made the mistake of looking at the irishsavant blog. Almost every other article was a hate rant against Jews. He even accuses them, as a race, of promoting pedophilia.

I really do weep for Reid.
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February 5, 2015 9:06pm
Shawn Herles

Johnboy and his pet Coon dancing for Waitangi Day!

Johnboy, you bear a remarkable resemblance to my uncle! Now theres a scary thought, are we related perhaps? 😉
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February 5, 2015 9:10pm
Johnboy

Are any of your Aunties named Yvette or Judith Shawn? 🙂
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February 5, 2015 9:11pm
Shawn Herles

Are any of your Aunties named Yvette or Judith Shawn?

Nope. Sorry! 🙂
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February 5, 2015 9:22pm
EAD

Shawn Herles,

I clicked on Reid’s link to see what your fuss was about. I read the article itself and you know what, it makes some very very good observations argued pertinently . And, drawn too the title (you’ll see), I also clicked on the below link which I found a very worthwhile article and one you would benefit from:

http://irishsavant.blogspot.ie/2012/12/take-small-island-in-adriatic-where.html

From the article:

“I mention this case merely to illustrate the parallel universes we live in. On the one hand there’s reality, what is actually happening and what has actually happened. And then, like in The Truman Show or The Matrix we have an imaginary world. This world, in our case, is one in which Whites, and particularly White males, are inherently evil and the cause of all the world’s problems, non-Whites, especially blacks, are wondrous human beings, whose occasional faults and failings can be fully explained by generations of White abuse. It’s one where races, religions and genders are equal, (in fact there’s a kind of inverse pigmentocracy) where the race-mixing of Whites into oblivion is an unalloyed good, where accepted history, the kind you get in orthodox academies and on Wikipedia, has become a parody of itself. But a parody that brooks no questioning.

Maintaining parallel universes does not come easily or cheaply. It requires the systematic immersion of the public in a particular way of thinking, which in turn calls for overwhelming control of the media, education, politics and finance. And, as Orwell showed, of history also. It also requires the ELIMINATION AS FAR AS POSSIBLE, OF ANY CONTRARIAN NARRATIVE (emphasis mine) as even at a low level this can cause disproportionate damage. Internalised conformity to the level of Thought Control is the objective. And it’s been achieved”

The reason I highlighted what I did is because that seems to be your whole raison d’etre – shout down, stalk, drown out with irrelevance anyone (myself, Reid, Redbaiter etc.) anyone that offers a different narrative.

Think about it
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February 5, 2015 9:31pm
Johnboy

Jeeze EAD!!!!

Are you saying I should use white vivid marker for my moko tomorrow? 🙂
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February 5, 2015 9:35pm
EAD

On a lighter note, happy Waitangi Day – I hope one day we’ll be free from our own 175 years of faux “guilt”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yOZEiHLuVU&google_comment_id=z12szdmxttfljzjzm04cizcb4xjkhbp53po0k
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February 5, 2015 9:42pm
Johnboy

If the Maori King want’s to sacrifice a honkie tomorrow EAD I’d be happy to toss him an Aussie. Specially if it was Russell/Russel! 🙂
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February 5, 2015 9:47pm
fylde

Happy Waitangi Day everyone. A day when we can think about the special characteristics which help make NZ such as Te Reo and respect of the Treaty.
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February 5, 2015 10:07pm
Jack5

Can’t stay awake? Read the link below, and it might help:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-05/a-world-overflowing-with-debt
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February 5, 2015 10:12pm
Griff

The parrot certainly stirs up the hornets nest
any one want to run a sweep?
how many ~~weeks~~ days the parrot lasts .
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February 5, 2015 11:02pm
Nostalgia-NZ

Nice conversion stephieboy in little over a day you went from explaining that there was no upward trajectory other than that from a ’tilt’ of the head, to agreeing that there was an upward trajectory but only a small one. Ahem, still fits the profile of upward trajectory. Moreover, you and the sisters agree on a photo showing a pose, that wasn’t a suicide demonstration because the skull cap wasn’t being worn to show the exact path of the bullet and the model was in fact standing with his head straight, no tilt and certainly not forward in prayer. Tough isn’t it, especially when seeing the misrepresented photo we comprehend that had Robin been kneeling or sitting on the beanbag his assailant would have had to crawl toward him from his front left. Pretty noisy I’d expect. But when compared to the rifle butt being on the chair and Robin’s forehead necessarily higher as he reached for the trigger quite clear why all the circumstances forensically linked to his death, considered individually and collectively resulted in a conclusion of 98% suicide. Ever feel that the Privy Council, the Crown conceding the computer was turned on by Robin, a jury, an international Jurist, David Fisher, a forensic peer review by international experts confirming a 98% likelihood of suicide all coincide – in a Bayesian way? Or just a conspiracy??
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February 5, 2015 11:14pm
Shawn Herles

I clicked on Reid’s link to see what your fuss was about. I read the article itself and you know what, it makes some very very good observations argued pertinently .

Of course you think that EAD. The fact that the whole blog was a load of Nazi crap, ranting about “Jews this” and “Jews that”, not Zionists note, but Jews, wasn’t a bit of a giveaway for you? Gee, I wonder why?

It even accuses them, as a race, of promoting pedophilia.

Just because you are pre-disposed to hate Jews and mindlessly swallow conspiracy theories does not mean anything other than your desperate need to confirm and justify your bigotry. The blog even used the neo-Nazi term ZOG (Zionist occupied govt).

Think about it

There was nothing there for any halfway intelligent person to think about.
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February 5, 2015 11:19pm
Gulag1917

“Ukraine’s Ministry of Defense says that in the latest mobilization, only 20% of those called up for service reported for duty. More than one million Ukrainian men of military age are now refugees in Russia”.
Riley Waggaman
Russia Insider
February 5, 2015
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February 6, 2015 1:25am
Left Right and Centre

Random nonsense:

(1) How far away is Easter ? NW Porirua has got all the chocolate shaped Easter paraphernalia you’ll ever need on display. It’s early Feb ffs. Never too early to try and cash in though, yeah ?

(2) Heard over a TV station promo the word ‘mum’ spoken as ‘mom’ (promo was for I think Mysteries of Laura if you want to hear what I’m talking about). That is no accident. That’s for the American TV generation of kiwis.

(3) Do you hate reading about people that leave their Gucci handbag in a shopping centre car park in an unlocked car with eight cash cards in it – and do you have one shred of sympathy when thieves work out how to squeeze $60K out of the accounts ? Sheesh – talk about casual attitude to potential criminals.

(4) Rugby player Hosea Gear says he’d like it if a few of his grandmothers can make it to see him play now that he’s back playing in NZ for the Chiefs. Say what ? A *few* of his *grandmothers* ? How many frickin grandmothers does the man have ? Is that like – some people have hundreds of Facebook *friends* or what ?

(5) Kea’s back. Nope – he’s gone. He’s back. Gone. Which is it ? Stay in one place mate !! Red is on R+R – well – KB reminds me of the Wellington Sevens – and they killed off the party nicely there, didn’t they ? I’ve never behaved so much in my whole life. Hey – it is what it is – take it or leave it. Whoops, no – that’s the sevens organisers talking.

(6) I was looking at the hall of fame to see what happened to Red. Is it just me, or do you also read the strikes and warnings and play a baseball umpire voice in your head ? Strike two, warning two. Ok – strike two, ball three . . . strike three – YOU’RE OUT !! (There but for the grace of bloglords go I btw Red).

(7) That’s it man. Went for a run around 3-5am the other day – didn’t see any cops so wasn’t asked if I was on a run this time – I thought it could become a regular thing but no. What a let down. I always see the paper delivery vehicle – I assume that’s what he’s doing, I’d need driver confirmation to be 100% certain. Just like the cop patrol would.
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February 6, 2015 7:33am
fylde

Gulag1917

Not sure you could quote a less reliable source than that
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