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February 2, 2015 8:00am by Kokila Patel

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Manolo

Whatever Don Quixote accuses me of must be true. He is after all a reliable ~~Laborite, Dunnite~~ independent and very balanced observer.
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February 2, 2015 8:46pm
nasska

We saw the video of the prang Dennis…..a less trusting person than I might think that you were out of your tree singing ragtime at (attempted) take off.

Rebuild it with a rollcage & another set of wheels on the roof just in case. 🙂
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February 2, 2015 8:47pm
nasska

….”Debt, crime, drug and alcohol abuse, racism and separatism, low wages, unaffordable housing, multi-culturalism making them strangers in their own land. Failed education system. Collapsing health care. Corrupt media. Just part of your heritage”…..

Take the gun away from your head & back away from the cliff Baity. 🙂
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February 2, 2015 8:50pm
Pete George

How very noble of you looking out for Manolo like that graham. I think you’ve gone in to bat for her before haven’t you? I’m sure Manolo can stick up for herself with a few more inane one-liners.

Did you got to The Standard and advise OAB I posted about him?
Did you go to the Beehive and advise John Key I posted about him?
Did you go to Green HQ and tell Norman, Hague, Turei and Shaw I posted about them?

Still seems to be very selective concern about manners to me.
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February 2, 2015 8:55pm
Johnboy

“….”Debt, crime, drug and alcohol abuse, racism and separatism, low wages, unaffordable housing, multi-culturalism making them strangers in their own land. Failed education system. Collapsing health care. Corrupt media. Just part of your heritage”…..’

Do you think Red’s in training to take over from Hone’s mum on Friday nasska? 🙂
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February 2, 2015 8:59pm
graham

Not looking out for or sticking up for Manolo, merely bringing the story to her attention (I have no idea whether Manolo is male or female, but as you seem very sure I’ll go with female).

And yes I’m sure Manolo can stick up for herself also. So I’ll leave her to do so, if she chooses.
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February 2, 2015 9:01pm
Griff

Reds the counter culture .
😆
zimmer frame hippies.

nope red you and the rest of the conservonutters are a bunch of confused old men .

faux news demographics tells the story
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/30/1303163/-Fox-News-Suffers-Worst-Ratings-In-Thirteen-Years-And-That-s-Not-Their-Big-Problem#
For Fox to post numbers that they haven’t seen since August of 2001 (before 9/11) is a painful blow to both their reputation and their bank account. But they have even bigger problems. The viewers that do tune in to Fox are significantly older than viewers of their competitors. Fox News has always had the oldest skewing audience in cable news. With a median age of 68.8 years, Fox’s audience is over six years older than either CNN or MSNBC. It’s even worse for their top rated program (O’Reilly) who’s average viewer is over 72 years old. And their Great Blonde Hope (Kelly), who was specifically brought in to draw younger viewers, also exceeded Fox’s average with her typical viewer voyeur being over 70.

An analysis of the audience composition for the three cable news networks shows that Fox’s total audience contains a pitiful 20% of the 25-54 age group favored by advertisers. It’s even worse for their primetime schedule where only 15% fall into that group. That compares to CNN with 30%/35% respectively, and MSNBC with 31%/28%. In other words, CNN and MSNBC draw 50% more total viewers in the younger demos, and they double Fox’s ratio in primetime.
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February 2, 2015 9:04pm
nasska

I worry about Baity JB…..the negative thoughts in his head would bend his mind.

I’ll bet he takes it out on the poor cat. 🙂
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February 2, 2015 9:05pm
Manolo

All of us, NZ females, are grateful for the marvellous anti-rape awareness campaign conducted by Mother Teresa. It has changed many, many lives. Thanks from the heart.
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February 2, 2015 9:07pm
Johnboy

Everyone knows Manolo isn’t a woman graham. He’s a damned foreigner from Wilton! 🙂
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February 2, 2015 9:08pm
Pete George

“merely bringing the story to her attention ”

Not merely. You also complained about my manners and gave me quite a wee lecture. There’s a lot of other bloggers out with those same manners. A lot of cleaning up you could be doing. Zorro of the blogs maybe.

It’s interesting when someone pops up out of nowhere with a wee agenda. And then pretends.
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February 2, 2015 9:10pm
Shawn Herles

nope red you and the rest of the conservonutters are a bunch of confused old men .

There are many kinds of conservatism, and many kinds of conservatives. And not everyone who claims to be necessarily is.

Ans I’m only 49 thanks! 🙂
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February 2, 2015 9:12pm
nasska

….”Ans I’m only 49 thanks!”…

Where’s your hair? 🙂
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February 2, 2015 9:15pm
Johnboy

Wait till your a proper sixty-niner young Shawn. Then you’ll know a thing or two my lad! 🙂
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February 2, 2015 9:15pm
Griff

Don’t take it personal Shawn.
We take you as a sort of honorary liberal type conservative.
Very different from the conservonutters.
At lest since you stopped being lee 001.
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February 2, 2015 9:15pm
Shawn Herles

Where’s your hair?

Heh, I shave it off. It;s the NA part of me. Thick, black hair that just grows straight and can’t do a damn thing with it, and it used to drive me nuts in summer.

I originally shaved it for a silly theme party, liked it so much I just kept doing it!
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February 2, 2015 9:19pm
Shawn Herles

We take you as a sort of honorary liberal type conservative.

Thanks! I actually kinda like that term, a liberal-conservative. That should drive certain folks to distraction! 🙂

At lest since you stopped being lee 001.

Yup, I really had to put a stake through his heart. Kinda like waking up from a night out on the drink and finding yourself next to a women you would not normally touch with a ten foot barge pole, I started taking notice of the other people on the hard Right and thought “shit, I really don’t like these people! Their nuts”

Plus, getting a little older, anyone with an ounce of sense start’s to see that the world is not black and white.
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February 2, 2015 9:25pm
Griff

I have changed politics since I first joined kb
Seeing how extreme the nutters are makes you think.. do I really want to identify politically with a bunch of loons ?
Especially when the more liberal seem to be more capable of sane debating using facts rather than content less rhetoric .
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February 2, 2015 9:34pm
mikenmild

Kiwiblog is quite often a fact-free environment. Surprisingly few people are susceptible to a reasoned argument.
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February 2, 2015 9:37pm
nasska

….”I really had to put a stake through his heart. Kinda like waking up from a night out on the drink and finding yourself next to a women you would not normally touch with a ten foot barge pole,”…..

In defence of your former persona I spent many a wet Saturday afternoon happily winding you up. 🙂
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February 2, 2015 9:37pm
Shawn Herles

Seeing how extreme the nutters are makes you think.. do I really want to identify politically with a bunch of loons ?

Exactly. I also started noticing the horseshoe issue, that the extreme Right sounded a helluva like the extreme Left in their ideas, policies, and tendency to use paranoid conspiracy theories to avoid reality.
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February 2, 2015 9:41pm
Shawn Herles

In defence of your former persona I spent many a wet Saturday afternoon happily winding you up.

Heh, I remember. Don’t worry though, there are plenty here still you can have some fun with naaska. In fact the number of extreme nutters seems to be growing.
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February 2, 2015 9:45pm
Fletch

Griff, ahh, I see. So before you joined Kiwiblog, you would have voted for Don Brash?
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February 2, 2015 9:47pm
Griff

I am still an act voter Fletch
The act party has always been a liberal party.
One vote for all and get the government out of my personal life.
Not conservonutters freedoms only for people like me lets decide who you can marry and what you can do with your own body.
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February 2, 2015 9:58pm
stigie

“Just part of what you self obsessed fuckwits have done to what was once such a great little country”.

Well, you would be happy to not be part of those self obsessed fuckwits then Reddy !~
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February 2, 2015 10:01pm
cha

Deranged is understating the affliction.

http://www.wnd.com/2015/01/savage-disneyland-measles-part-of-obamas-medical-genocide/
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February 2, 2015 10:04pm
fylde

Shawn Herles – it is the horseshoe issue that leads me to rename Redbaiter as Redstained. His or her views seem equally influenced by Helen Clarke as by Don Brash.
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February 2, 2015 10:04pm
fylde

Maybe that should be Jeanette Fitzsimons rather than Helen Clarke
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February 2, 2015 10:07pm
Griff

I think brash has been demonized by the left far in access as his actual position.
His tenure at the reserve bank left a lasting legacy giving us a far more stable economic landscape.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Brash

Political positions
In his first party-political election-campaign broadcast Brash mentioned a number of aspects of his life that he believed had attuned him to the political centre-ground in New Zealand:

registering as a conscientious objector at age 18[17]
serving as the patron of Amnesty International Freedom Foundation
participating in demonstrations against the racially-selected South African rugby team touring New Zealand (1981) and the New Zealand All-Blacks rugby team touring South Africa without Māori team members
his frugal approach, most famously washing his own laundry in his hotel-room basin while on taxpayer-funded overseas trips as Governor of the Reserve Bank
voting for Labour in his early years

Brash voted for the decriminalisation of both prostitution and euthanasia, voted against raising the drinking age back up to 20 and voted against Manukau banning street prostitution.[40] However, Brash did vote against the Civil Unions Bill because he backed a public mandate for any change to the law.[41] He has also called for the decriminalisation of cannabis.[42][43]

In March 2013, Brash joined the debate over the future of Auckland, saying land needed to be freed up for residential zoning so house prices would come down, at odds with Mayor Len Brown’s plan to stop urban sprawl and build the city upwards

Even his ideas around social welfare I still agree with knowing of far to many feral family’s who breed indiscriminately on the benefit leaving a legacy of broken children for us to continue to pay for indefinitely

the man was destroyed because he was not a lying two faced politician
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February 2, 2015 10:21pm
Dennis Horne

Don Brash, the best prime minister we never had.
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February 2, 2015 10:27pm
fylde

Don Brash – a lifetime spent largely on the sucking on the public purse with little to show for it
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February 3, 2015 6:06am
fylde

Don Brash – his electoral success speaks for itself. He tried to promote himself as a free market person but when RBNZ governor seemed to think he as a civil servant could interfere in the market
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February 3, 2015 6:08am
Manolo

Never ending rapacity: http://www.atr.org/obama-budget-creates-second-death-tax

The Obama budget calls for a stealth increase in the death tax rate from 40% to nearly 60%.

Under current law, when you inherit an asset your basis in the asset is the higher of the fair market value at the time of death or the descendant’s original basis. Almost always, the fair market value is higher.

Under the Obama proposal, when you inherit an asset your basis will simply be the descendant’s original basis.

Example: Dad buys a house for $10,000. He dies and leaves it to you. The fair market value on the date of death is $100,000. You sell it for $120,000. Under current law, you have a capital gain of $20,000 (sales price of $120,000 less step up in basis of $100,000). Under the Obama plan, you have a capital gain of $110,000 (sales price of $120,000 less original basis of $10,000).
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February 3, 2015 6:34am
fylde

Manolo – was just reading about the Obama budget and associated deficit and increased taxes. What a terrible legacy to leave.
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February 3, 2015 6:39am
Manolo

The Messiah is delivering on his promise of “transforming” the US. In fact, the incompetent Obama is helping to destroy it.
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