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February 27, 2015 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 27 February 2015

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nasska

So long as she maintains decorum & refrains from nude protest I’m reasonably comfortable with the potential video footage of her arrest Griff. 🙂
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February 27, 2015 8:40pm
Sponge

Hysterical scenes Griff? Well I thought so….
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February 27, 2015 8:41pm
Inandout

Penny doesn’t look the brightest bulb.
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February 27, 2015 9:29pm
Shawn Herles

“this peaceful protest was carried out by persistent, consistent DECENT New Zealanders who DO believe in democracy”

Utter Crap. It was carried out by mindless terrorist supporters who despise real democracy. Minto is a communist. You abuse the rights of every Kiwi who works for a living and pays their rates. You steal from ratepayers to fund your bludging lifestyle. People who steal from others have abused their rights and abused the rights of others.

Have you seen the videos of children being beheaded by ISIS Penny? That is what you and your indecent ilk are supporting. By opposing military action against a group that murders children with glee, you are giving them a green light.

You care nothing for real human rights. You are, by taking this action, denying any human rights to the victims of ISIS.

You enjoy rights that the victims of ISIS do not have, and you abuse that right to steal from ratepayers and support those who murder women and children and throw gay people off the tops of buildings.

You and every other indecent and immoral nutter who participated in your stupid action should hang you heads in abject shame.
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February 27, 2015 9:35pm
SPC

South Africa 146 for 3 in the 30th over.

The rule of thumb is a total can double form there if there are wickets in hand.

AB de V comes in and the norm has become scorched earth.

162 off 66 balls. 408 for 5.

Gayle eclipsed before he even bats.
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February 27, 2015 9:35pm
Nookin

Don’t beat around the bush, Shawn. Tell us what you really think.
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February 27, 2015 9:52pm
Shawn Herles

And given that you brought up the issue of my nationality, and while this may not be a popular point, it is nevertheless true that the only reason you have any democratic rights at all Penny is because of the thousands of Americans who gave their lives in the Pacific to defeat the Japanese empire.

Try and show a little gratitude for that, instead of pissing on the US every chance you get.
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February 27, 2015 9:52pm
Odakyu-sen

Lantern Festival in Albert Park in Auckland on Sunday. I’ll be there, blending in and looking for good things to eat.
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February 27, 2015 11:16pm
SPC

Shawn, the USA lost the right to expect gratitude, because

1. they only got involved because the Japanese attacked them.
2. they give free trade to nations that never fought alongside them, but require more onerous conditions of us.
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February 27, 2015 11:24pm
Shawn Herles

SPC,

if you think either of those weak ass reasons comes even close to equaling the sacrifice of thousands of Marines, without which NZ would not even exist, you’re a very silly and petulant child.

So, you are an ISIS supporter alongside Penny.

They slaughter women and children, and all you do in response is whine about the US.

Shameful.
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February 28, 2015 12:47am
Gulag1917

We appreciate the fact that Americans sacrificed their lives, It was the Battle of the Coral Sea that saved Australia and inevitably NZ however how much longer must we be in debt to that. It is not as if we have been not been dutiful, we have supported the US in every major war since 1945. Australia cannot leave ANZUS for fear of repercussions. In the fighting for freedom we also lost freedom.
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February 28, 2015 1:07am
SPC

Shawn, God’s not American. Most servicemen were conscripts and would have voted for another President if FDR said he wanted to enter the war to protect nations attacked by Germany and Japan. Japan attacked them and Germany then declared war on the USA. They never chose to defend us, they just needed bases (rest areas) in the Pacific to attack Japan from.

And argue the issue and stop attempting to slander and impugn anyone who disagrees with you. Bloody un-Christian, certainly poor form.
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February 28, 2015 1:22am
wellygirl

SPC
“They never chose to defend us, they just needed bases…”

I remember reading an extract from a book a number of years ago that the reason the US provided protection to NZ during the war was because of Churchill. Apparently the NZ Government were going to recall their soldiers from overseas, but Churchill spoke to Roosevelt and got the US to guarantee NZ security in exchange for NZ remaining in North Africa & Europe. I can’t remember the name of the book, but it was about the unseen official documents from the war.

So SPC, I guess NZ does owe our security in WWII to the US, we would never have managed on our own, and when the Japanese invaded we would have fallen very easily. I, for one, am glad to have the US as our friends and allies.
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February 28, 2015 2:21am
wellygirl

I see a few have condemned the anti war protest at the wreath laying ceremony today, please don’t, those soldiers died so those people had the right to protest. I will repeat the words I have been told by more than one person who has served in uniform.

‘I may not agree with the protest, but I will defend their right to protest’

Penny, and the other anti-war lefties have the right to protest, and if they think it is appropriate to protest at a ceremony to remember those who were willing to fight and die to defend the right of people like them to protest, that is between them and their conscious.

I personally see the protest as incredibly inappropriate, but I respect the right they have to do it peacefully, just as I respect the right of people to counter their protest, and the police to arrest them when it crosses the line from a peaceful protest.
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February 28, 2015 2:33am
Viking2

Spock is dead
Long live Mr Spock.

Leonard Nimoy, the actor who played Mr Spock in Star Trek, has died at the age of 83.

The star, who was first cast in the science-fiction series in the mid-1960s, suffered from COPD – chronic obstructive pulmonary disease – and was rushed to the UCLA Medical Center after a 911 call on February 19.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11409519
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February 28, 2015 7:29am
Gulag1917

Our democracy is pretty frail if we cannot handle Penny and her mates protesting.
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February 28, 2015 10:57am
Shawn Herles

Our democracy would be screwed if Penny and her terrorist supporting ilk ever go their way.
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February 28, 2015 11:04am

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