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Shawn Herles

@ EAD,

There are limits to what I can discuss as I have made an agreement not to engage with or about a certain poster.

I never resort to abuse like you do. have seen you level at the likes of myself, Reid, Rebaiter amongst others.

The only times I respoind with abuse has been when it was aimed at me first. In the case of one of the people you mentioned, he started on me long before I chose to respond back. Of course I should not allow myself to get drawn into that kind of personal flame war, but nobody is perfect.

For someone who is perhaps the most ethno-centric person on the entire blog (with your claims to some small fraction of Indian blood and constant attacks on European cultures)

What constant attacks on European cultures? Unlike you, I am consistently pro-West. Talking about the West’s past sins is not an attack. Talking about slavery in the US does not mean I am any less pro-US. I am passionately patriotic when it comes to the US, but that does not mean I have to be blind to it’s mistakes.

I am hardly the most ethno-cetric person on this blog, not by a long shot. Every day there are some people here talking about threats to the white race, closing down the boarders to keep non-whites out, and various other ethno-centric ideas. In fact there are many who talk from a race-based pov far, far more than I do. I think your double standards are showing.

your constant labelling of anyone you disagree with as being a “Nazi” is very distasteful.

Now, you just said it was wrong to put words in peoples mouths or misrepresent them, and here you are doing just that.

The ONLY times I accuse others of being Nazi’s is when they express Nazi ideas. NEVER simply because they disagree with me.

In your case, it was the comment about Jews trying to wipe out the white race. You never gave any explanation for that comment, so sorry EAD, but you really can’t complain when someone takes a statement like that at face value.

Anyway, what happened to your big roadtrip around the country, I thought we wouldn’t be hearing from you for a while?

Your thinking of another poster. This is a very busy time of the year for my wife.
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January 6, 2015 3:32pm
Redbaiter

The only times I respoind with abuse has been when it was aimed at me first. In the case of one of the people you mentioned, he started on me long before I chose to respond back.

That’s a lie. Most flame wars are started by you and the best evidence of this fact is that last year you had so many more comments than the next closest commenter and thousands more than most.

In your case, it was the comment about Jews trying to wipe out the white race.

Another smear and cowardly lie. He never said that. There’s a good example of how you so constantly start flame wars.

And furthermore he is right about your racism, wherein you choose to identify as Cherokee because of some claimed distant contact and use that as the basis for constant smears against the European race. And in the manner of the Nazis, project this claimed bloodline as somehow making you superior to Europeans who lack that blood.
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January 6, 2015 3:39pm
mandk

wf @11.45

Did you actually read the article?
Here’s an extract you obviously missed:

“But I’d just had a 20-week scan and everything was perfect and finding out it was a boy made it very hard to accept a termination.

“The doctor said, ‘You have to have a termination because there’s nothing we can do’.”

There’s nothing in the article to support your claim that: “The parents were given advice as to the risks of continuing the pregnancy. The child was clearly not developing properly, and nature was trying to take its course”

I actually know parents here in NZ who were pressured to opt for an abortion because of the mere suspicion that the baby might have Down’s. Thankfully, they too refused. Their baby didn’t have Down’s, but it would not have made a difference even if it did.
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January 6, 2015 3:40pm
Manolo

Crooks and mates: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/bill-clinton/bill-clinton-and-jeffrey-epstein-908671
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January 6, 2015 3:42pm
Redbaiter

Examples of SH’s racist attacks on white Europeans-

The savages were those people like you who stole our land through murder, and then forced marched most of my tribe hundreds of miles to Oklahoma, a march that left thousands dead, including women and children.

We did not invade England and wipe out millions through disease, concentration camps, and mass deportations.

Millions dies from white diseases, were forced off their land into concentration camps, and given disease infested blankets in an early form of germ warfare.

And that is just the tip of the iceberg. By any reasonable standards, that was not just harsh, it was evil and deliberate mass murder.

My people had vastly more genuine individual liberty before the English came along, trashed our property rights, and forced thousands to march all the way to Oklahoma to live in concentration camps.
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January 6, 2015 3:46pm
Shawn Herles

I actually know parents here in NZ who were pressured to opt for an abortion because of the mere suspicion that the baby might have Down’s. Thankfully, they too refused.

That’s extremely disturbing mandk. Sadly, I’m not surprised.
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January 6, 2015 3:48pm
SGA

mandk at 3:40 pm

I actually know parents here in NZ who were pressured to opt for an abortion because of the mere suspicion that the baby might have Down’s.

I believe you say this sincerely, but I’m genuinely curious about it. What could give rise to a “mere suspicion”? I was under the impression that testing for Down’s gave pretty much yes and no answers – happy to be corrected.
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January 6, 2015 4:07pm
mandk

@ SGA,

I don’t know what the problem is, but false positive tests for Down’s syndrome are not at all uncommon.

You will find many articles about the issue if you use Google, but this one suggests around 1 in 5 tests gives a false positive.
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January 6, 2015 4:25pm
SGA

mandk at 4:25 pm

I don’t know what the problem is, but false positive tests for Down’s syndrome are not at all uncommon.

That’s not what we are talking about here, though. Curious.
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January 6, 2015 4:27pm
All_on_Red

They can test at 9-10 weeks for Downs. They assess the results as either ” low chance ” or ” high chance”. Apparently it’s rare for those with “high chance” results to proceed.
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January 6, 2015 4:29pm
dad4justice

“but D4J really does come across as unhinged and in need of professional help. I think he is easily the angriest person on KB.”

I would expect nothing less from a sly, backstabbing Pharisee. You and mikeymould should try and get jobs, maybe you could ask OneTrack.

Gutless wonders with nothing better to do. God help them. Thanks for the laugh girls.
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January 6, 2015 4:58pm
mikenmild

So, been watching the cricket, D4J?
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January 6, 2015 5:02pm
wiseowl

Hey M&M .Know of any flats available in Wellywood?
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January 6, 2015 5:24pm
publicwatchdog

Excuse me ‘Mikenmild’?

You claim that I’M ‘personally hostile’ to Mark Freeman?

So you choose NOT to read the defamatory, unsubstantiated CRAP he writes about me?

Or – the ‘hostile’ defamatory CRAP Mark Freeman posts about me – is ok?

Sure you’re not being just a wee bit hypocritical – perchance?

I for one think so.

Sorry folks – but I will defend myself -end of story.

Actually ‘Mikenmild’ having now met with two Mayors and one ex-Mayor, who all oppose the proposed Wellington ‘Supercity’ – I can tell you that they are all VERY happy to have my assistance.

Kind regards

Penny Bright
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January 6, 2015 5:26pm
Steve (North Shore)

Actually ‘Mikenmild’ having now met with two Mayors and one ex-Mayor, who all oppose the proposed Wellington ‘Supercity’ – I can tell you that they are all VERY happy to have my assistance.

This should be a warning to Wellington voters.
Btw, who was the ex Mayor? that pisspot clown from Campbell’s Bay?
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January 6, 2015 5:38pm
publicwatchdog

Crikey ‘Reid’ – you purport to be a ‘good lover’ whilst on Kiwiblog (in my opinion) you’re such a proven ‘wanker’?

However do you manage?

Well done you!

(Meant of course in a caring way 🙂

Keep it up!

(As it were …. 🙂

Kind regards

Penny Bright
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January 6, 2015 5:40pm
publicwatchdog

So Steve – do YOU support the Auckland ‘Supercity for the 1%’ forced amalgamation

Are you a consultant or contractor with your private snout in the public trough?

Seems that’s a common occupation of some Kiwibloggers who often make derogatory comments about my posts.

But hey!

You’re both reading my posts AND commenting on them!

Well done you!

Good work.

Kind regards

Penny Bright
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January 6, 2015 5:48pm
Shawn Herles

I have a job thanks D4J.

Still have not worked out the actual meaning of the term Pharisee I see.
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January 6, 2015 5:55pm
dad4justice

“I have a job thanks D4J.”

You don’t have a job sly Pharisee, you are far to busy backstabbing people 24/7 on kiwiblog. I really think this blog would be better off without malicious liars like yourself.
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January 6, 2015 6:04pm
Fletch

Manolo @ the Prince Andrew thing, Dershowitz says no, and demands she make a formal complaint if she is going to throw allegations around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXePKTws0f0

Lauer: I was reading a pre-interview you did with our producer, it appears you’re not only prepared to defend yourself, but you are also about to go on the offense. Let’s get to the basics. Your response to the allegations that you had sex with an underage girl all those years ago, what is your response?

Dershowitz: Totally false and made up. She claims I had sex with her in Jeffrey Epstein’s island. The records will show I was on that island once with my wife, my daughter, a prominent Harvard business school professor, his wife, in-laws and children. I was never out of the sight of my wife. She claims I had sex with her on Jeffrey Epstein’s ranch in New Mexico. Records will show I was at the ranch once with friends with my wife and my daughter for about an hour. The house wasn’t complete. Epstein wasn’t even in it. There are no girls around. She claims I had sex with her on the airplanes. Manifests of the flights will show I was never on the airplanes with her.

Lauer: Did you have any contact with Jane Doe number three at all, Alan? Did you ever meet her?

Dershowitz: No. I don’t even know who she is. No, I’ve never seen her, never met her. I don’t know who she is, and her lawyers have to know this. Her lawyers, Paul Cassell, a former federal judge, and Brad Edwards, deliberately and willfully file this in a pleading, which they knew I had no opportunity to respond to in court without doing any investigation. If they had simply investigated the manifest of the airplanes, if they had checked my travel records, if they had asked me, and I could have given them the names of the people who are witnesses, they would know that the story is totally false. These lawyers engaged in unethical behavior and should be disbarred.

Dershowitz: I’m not a party to the lawsuit. I have no opportunity to respond. They didn’t ask for a hearing. The woman said she wants a full investigation. I welcome a full investigation. I’m not trying to silence her. I challenged her to repeat the statement to the press so that I can sue for defamation. She has repeated the statements about the prince. She has studiously refused to reproduce the statements about me. I challenged her to file rape criminal charges against me. If she does, she exposes herself to criminal prosecution. I have challenged the lawyers to repeat these statements in public so there could be a defamation hearing. They want to just throw this stink bomb and then avoid any responsibility for it. They will not get away with this. There will be legal proceedings. There will be hearings. They will be deposed. I will be deposed, the records will be produced, the truth will come out and it will show these two unethical lawyers should be disbarred. I am completely and absolutely innocent of all these charges.
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January 6, 2015 6:11pm
Shawn Herles

Speaking of lying D4J, nobody could possibly be on KB 24/7, and I’m certainly not. I’m self-employed, and my work is often in the mornings or early evenings, and on weekends. That is one of the reasons I often don’t start posting here until the afternoon.

Oh and If I was going to stab you D4J, trust me, I would be facing you at the time.

This blog would be better off if some folks with serious anger management issues would just get some counseling and stop using KB as a substitute for dealing with their issues.
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January 6, 2015 6:12pm
nasska

….”I’m self-employed, and my work is often in the mornings or early evenings, and on weekends.”….

Counselling & spiritually guiding the deranged would take it out of a man.

The life of a professional Godbotherer is not an easy one. 🙂
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January 6, 2015 6:18pm
dad4justice

“That is one of the reasons I often don’t start posting here until the afternoon.”

Stop lying you twisted Pharisee creep, your first post on this thread was just after 8 this morning. You are a wacko fill of lies. How long have you been a sickness beneficiary? Don’t answer please it will be yet another lie. What a nutbar, get help please.
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January 6, 2015 6:20pm
Fletch

An amusing anecdote concerning a guy working with Burt Reynolds on the Boogie Nights movie (slightly bawdy).

“Ricky Jay had the obligation, when Mark and Burt are in this big fight scene at the pool. He’s coming at Mark, saying ‘Get out of here, you’re high!’ and all this sort of stuff, and Ricky Jay had the job of holding Burt back, which is not a job that Ricky should have. He has these magician’s hands and everything else. And Burt started to improvise, and Mark says something like, ‘I haven’t been up for two days!’ and Burt said, ‘Nevertheless, you don’t look good …”

And every time Burt said ‘Nevertheless,’ I kept noticing something happen over Ricky’s face, and I said, ‘What’s going on?’ and he said, ‘I can’t. I’m suppressing laughter whenever he says ‘Nevertheless.’

And I said why, and he told me this great story of being in a football game when this woman is being introduced to sing the National Anthem and her name is Helen Forrest or whatever it is. And [the announcer] says, ‘And now to sing the National Anthem, Helen Forrest.’

And somebody in the stands screams, ‘HELEN FORREST SUCKS COCK.’

And the announcer [without missing a beat] says, ‘Nevertheless.’

And what’s why, if you watch that scene again, Ricky Jay has such a pained expression on his face when Burt Reynolds says ‘Nevertheless.’

http://www.pajiba.com/celebrities_are_better_than_you/paul-thomas-anderson-told-the-most-amazing-boogie-nights-story-about-burt-reynolds.php
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January 6, 2015 6:21pm
Shawn Herles

Stop lying you twisted Pharisee creep, your first post on this thread was just after 8 this morning.

Yes, this morning. I don’t work everyday, I work only when I have a client.

Watch your accusations sunshine. I know you think your a tough guy, but your really not.
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January 6, 2015 6:27pm
Redbaiter

Oh and If I was going to stab you D4J, trust me, I would be facing you at the time.

That would be about one of the worst threats I have ever read on Kiwiblog.

BTW, SH started this flame war. (3:12) There was absolutely no reason for him to attack D4J in the manner he did.
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January 6, 2015 6:31pm
dad4justice

“Oh and If I was going to stab you D4J, trust me, I would be facing you at the time.”

This from a twisted Pharisee. Somebody should alert the blog owner to this malicious threat of violence. I have never narked on anybody against my religion unlike the vicious Shawn Herles. Surely this nutbar has crossed the line? He started on me while I was at work. He must be banned for life, surely violent threats like this cannot be allowed without severe consequences? The man is a psycho.
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January 6, 2015 6:35pm
Shawn Herles

D4J, you used the term backstabbing, not me. I was just correcting your mistake, not making a threat.

And don’t be a hypocrite. Not long ago you threatened that you and Rowan were going to pay me a visit.

If you are going to go around talking to folks the way you do, and yes, making threats, which I have seen you do several times, whining like a girl when someone stands up to you and is not remotely threatened by you is a little pathetic, don’t ya think?
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January 6, 2015 6:40pm
nasska

Get real Baity. Dad’s comment was “you are far to busy backstabbing people 24/7 on kiwiblog. ”

I think we can safely assume that this & Shawn’s reply were metaphorical.
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January 6, 2015 6:41pm
Griff

BTW, SH started this flame war. (3:12)

Actually red reading the above thread the question of d4j’s sanity did not come from Shawn .
Going against history serves to high lite only your own bias.
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January 6, 2015 6:43pm
Shawn Herles

I think we can safely assume that this & Shawn’s reply were metaphorical.

Yes naaska. I would have thought that was obvious given the context. But D4J does tend to resort to hysterics at the drop of a hat.
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January 6, 2015 6:45pm
nasska

He’s not a well man Shawn.
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January 6, 2015 6:47pm
Steve (North Shore)

So Steve – do YOU support the Auckland ‘Supercity for the 1%’ forced amalgamation

Are you a consultant or contractor with your private snout in the public trough?

Seems that’s a common occupation of some Kiwibloggers who often make derogatory comments about my posts.

I am an Engineer, a Ratepayer, a NET Taxpayer, and I do not deal with any clients/customers from the Public Trough. They are a total waste of working hours and just tend to piss me off – like you
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January 6, 2015 6:48pm
Redbaiter

I think we can safely assume that this & Shawn’s reply were metaphorical.

You assume what you want, but when its followed up by a statement like this I think I know what the implication is-

I know you think your a tough guy, but your really not.

And then this-

He’s not a well man Shawn.

That is fucking rich coming from you, Mr OCD. Look out, the Christians are coming for you.
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January 6, 2015 6:48pm
Shawn Herles

He’s not a well man Shawn.

Not remotely well naaska. I don’t think I have ever seen D4J actually engage with any political issues in any serious way. Almost his entire activity on KB is angry ranting at other people.
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January 6, 2015 6:52pm
cha

OPEC – no pain no gain.

ian bremmerVerified account ‏@ianbremmer

Oil price needed to balance budget, 2015

UAE $81

Saudi Arabia $104

Russia $105

Venezuela $117

Nigeria $123

Bahrain $138

(DeutscheBank)

https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/552212978167459840
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January 6, 2015 6:56pm
nasska

….”. Look out, the Christians are coming for you”….

The Godwhacked are not a threat Baity…..just a pain in the arse like houseflies & mosquitoes.

In fact, if they minded their own businesses & didn’t try to push their tripe & ideals onto the rest of us I would just leave them to get on with it.
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January 6, 2015 6:56pm
Redbaiter

The Godwhacked are not a threat Baity….

Thanks for the laugh.

That’s why you’ve been writing all kind of paranoid imaginary shit on here about them for about a decade.

No one to be calling D4J nuts that is for sure.
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January 6, 2015 6:59pm
dad4justice

Shawn Herles I take it you know the difference between the term backstabbing and threatening to stab a person?

nasska – go away you insidious coward.
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January 6, 2015 7:04pm
minus

Bright, a controversial figure in Auckland, has refused to pay rates since 2006 in a spat with local authorities over their refusal to be transparent over the contracts they have with the private sector. Auckland Council has promised to start publishing these on its website after Bright pointed out that Auckland Transport, an Auckland Council controlled organisation, was already publishing such a list.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/63215766/Campaigner-challenges-rates-penalties

From the news item referenced, it is unclear if the statement of the Council’s promise to comply is background or a court room quote.
Do you know, Penny, who said Auckland Council will comply, and when?
Was the statement part of court proceedings, and subject to being perjury if not true?

Since rates assessment notices may have failed to contain information required by the Local Government (Rating) Act, could this not render hundreds of thousands of assessments unlawful and unenforceable, being a situation that Pants Down Len Brown should offer a little more immediate attention in resolving? 🙂
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January 6, 2015 7:39pm
publicwatchdog

So you support the Auckland ‘Supercity’ Steve?

BTW – the ex-Mayor with whom I met was from the Greater Wellington region.

Kind regards

Penny Bright
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January 6, 2015 7:42pm
publicwatchdog

‘Minus’ – that comment was not made as part of Court proceedings.

A date for Court proceedings in my rates case has yet to be set.

On 18 December 2014, I filed in the Auckland District Court and subsequently served on Auckland Council my submissions accompanied by 126 pages of ‘new’ evidence, which shows how exactly Auckland Council and previously Auckland City Council rates assessment notices and rates invoices did not comply with sections 45 and 46 of the Local Government (Rating) Act 2002.

Subsequently, after visiting the Office of the Auditor-General (OAG), and being referred to their 2012 -2013 Audit of Local Government, I provided further ‘new’ evidence, quoting sections of this report which spell out VERY clearly, how local authorities must comply with their lawful statutory requirements.

Over the Christmas break, I have discovered further pertinent ‘new’ evidence.

Being that under the Local Government (Auckland Council) Act 2011, Auckland Council can borrow money overseas in its own name, and is the only Council which is allowed to do this because of its size.

This was news to me.

I don’t recall any MAN ON THE MOON headlines on this matter – which allows Auckland Council to rark up a whole lot more debt – for which long-suffering Auckland citizens and ratepayers will be ultimately liable.

Seems there is no ‘devilish detail’ on Auckland Rates Assessment notices which advises citizens and ratepayers of their ‘liabilities’ regarding Auckland Council ‘debt’?

Oh dear ….

Do YOU ever remember being asked by Auckland Council if YOU agreed with Auckland Council being given this power and authority to borrow overseas?

Enjoy being treated as a cross between a giant CA$H COW and an ATM machine Aucklanders?

I don’t.

Which is why I’ve taken a stand which cannot be ignored.

Penny Bright

http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz
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January 6, 2015 8:08pm
publicwatchdog

A date for the hearing of my ‘Application to Set Aside Judgment’ in my rates case has yet to be set.

Auckland Council have until 5 February 2015 to respond to my ‘new’ evidence and submissions.

After that, a hearing date will be set.

Penny Bright
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January 6, 2015 8:23pm
Steve (North Shore)

Oh Penny, the ex Mayor was George. Great input to NZ and now on the dole.
Why did you not just say that you silly, time wasting maniac? You love the attention, testing people to see what they say and how they respond to you.
Have you been to a Doctor lately? You know, one of those special Doctors where you lay down on the couch/floor and spill your beans. I’m sure one of those Doctors will be interested as to why they pay RATES and you DONT.
Hey, are you afraid that the Doctor might term you as INSANE?
Try it and tell us that you are not insane
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January 6, 2015 8:45pm
Steve (North Shore)

See you about 11.30am in the morning mad woman. That is the usual time you start posting shit on here.
No masturbating before 10am ok, it will spoil your day
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January 6, 2015 8:58pm
publicwatchdog

Sounds like you are the one who is currently unwell ‘Steve’?

Seriously?

Probably nothing an early night and good sleep won’t help fix ‘Steve’?

Here’s hoping!

All the best.

Kind regards

Penny Bright
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January 6, 2015 8:58pm
alex Masterley

Sigh,
To set aside a judgement properly obtained three things are required (from memory)
1. An explanation for the failure to take steps in the proceedings leading to the judgment being challenged,
2. A defence to the claim, and;
3. The plaintiff must not be prejudiced by the judgment being set aside.
To those who practice in the civil courts the principals are well known.
I suspect penny will be able to cook up an explaination for her delay and failure to take steps. And I can’t see the prejudice point being an issue.
So the defence. Last time I looked at the local government rating act paying rates is a statutory obligation, and the act does not to my, admittedly jaundiced, eye enable to say there is no obligation to pay Asakusa consequence of perceived breaches of requirements to provide information on a rates notice.
I feel sorry for the poor judge who has to wade through the papers filed.
And the poor appellate judge who will inevitably hear the matter.
It would be easier to pay one rates.
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January 6, 2015 8:59pm
nasska

….”It would be easier to pay one rates”…..

Only if one had the money to do so.

The mantle of sacrificial martyr to a cause is easier to wear & generates more publicity.
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January 6, 2015 9:07pm
Steve (North Shore)

Now the silly woman will be on Kiwiblog at 8am tomorrow just to be first and still say that she is not getting her rocks off because she has to research moronsville before the daily speel at 11am+

Sorry, be prepared for Public Dog at 8 am as soon as GD opens.
(get real, the lazy non paying commie will be asleep at 8am)
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January 6, 2015 9:11pm
ngatimozart

Redbaiter (10,812 comments) says:
January 6th, 2015 at 3:46 pm
Examples of SH’s racist attacks on white Europeans-

The savages were those people like you who stole our land through murder, and then forced marched most of my tribe hundreds of miles to Oklahoma, a march that left thousands dead, including women and children.

We did not invade England and wipe out millions through disease, concentration camps, and mass deportations.

Millions dies from white diseases, were forced off their land into concentration camps, and given disease infested blankets in an early form of germ warfare.

And that is just the tip of the iceberg. By any reasonable standards, that was not just harsh, it was evil and deliberate mass murder.

My people had vastly more genuine individual liberty before the English came along, trashed our property rights, and forced thousands to march all the way to Oklahoma to live in concentration camps.

Actually Red that is fair comment by SH and is in the historical record. It is not a racist remark as you8 claim. Just a statement of fact. To deny that such actions occurred could be construed as racist similar to those of a Holocaust denier. Each act is crimes against humanity.
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January 6, 2015 9:21pm
alex Masterley

I will be nowhere near KB at 8 am.
Rather the siren call of the golf course, with half an ear to the test in Wellington will be taking my attention.
Then the pub coz I am on holiday!
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January 6, 2015 9:22pm
Redbaiter

To deny that such actions occurred could be construed as racist similar to those of a Holocaust denier.

There is plenty of counter information to all of those claims and they are far from proven. That you are apparently unaware of this makes me wonder who I am engaging with. Either you are an ugly coward trying to shut down discussion, or you have just time-warped in from another galaxy.
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January 6, 2015 9:28pm
Nostalgia-NZ

‘District Court Judge Mary Beth Sharp refused Penny Bright’s application to have the case sent onto the High Court saying that it could be decided in the District Court. Hardly a set back when considering that Judge Sharp said that the Council’s inaccurate assessment of rates owed by Bright didn’t give confidence in the integrity of the Debtors Judgement Ms Bright was appealing. In response Council chief financial officer said the errors with the bill were due to it being a complex case. So a staff of some 11,000 unable to work out the amount of one rates bill is because it is too complex – small wonder that would provide little confidence to over 200,000 other rate payers who recently faced rate increases.

Judge Mary Beth Sharp also disclosed the view that the ‘imperative’ for a rate payer to pay their rates did not ‘crystallize’ until the Council had fulfilled its obligations to rate payers. In other words kept it’s part of the deal. A deal which Penny Bright says is not complete because Council has not disclosed all its spending as the Law requires.’

Pretty straight forward. I think PB has told Unity here on KB, that if that spending is disclosed she will pay her rates.
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January 6, 2015 9:42pm
Griff

Either you are an ugly coward trying to shut down discussion

Projection yet again redbaiter you seem to accuse all and sundry of your own behavior.

Nothing cowardly just a friendly upfront warning .
You call me a retard from now on for being an aspie and you will be reported by email ..
One strike from a week on the naughty step. If you get a ban it will be of your own doing.
The rules of this blog say if you continue to mangle handles you will also get a sanction.
I no longer mangle your handle into the fitting epithets it is about time you show the same courtesy.
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January 6, 2015 9:48pm
Redbaiter

Grief, you are one of the most prolific abusers on this blog, especially where I am concerned and you do it because you are a yellow coward who knows I will not nark the way you do. Go ahead. I say what I feel needs to be said and if you want to report me do it. I shall not be intimidated by the cowardly threats of odious internet filth like you.

Quote from tonight’s Kim Dotcom thread.

I hope they monitor reds potential purchases of fertilizer.
Just in case he goes the route of McVeigh and Breivik.

As for your complaints of being called a retard, you call others far worse, and your Aspergers was something you brought into the debate falsely claiming it enhanced your intelligence.

You don’t want your Asperger’s mentioned I suggest you shut the fuck up about it yourself.

There are a number of commenters here whose absence would definitely enhance this blog and you would be top of that list.
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January 6, 2015 9:52pm
Fight Communism

The riot was a disgrace but

Both immigrants to do the work kiwis either wouldn’t or couldn’t do.

Maggy Guess what

there is lots of work to do for everyone (there always has been and always will be)
and I can’t do it for you all so
Maybe a thanks to the Country who let you in would be nice

or don’t you like it here?

Many KIWIs are hard at it overseas as well ( and do ok thanks)
better than other migrant but PEOPLE LIKE YOU
SH*T ON KIWIS when they do better than other migrant
regardless when they do well in other peoples countries

Seriously you do YOU ARE JOKE?

SO YOU CAN’T WIN with your LOSERS attitude

BECAUSE be honest YOU ARE A closet RACIST’

IT IS DUMP on KIWIs DAY on KIWIBLOG
and you could not wait to put the BOOT in like a recent immigrant snob

What did you want when you came here UNEMPLOYMENT? EMPLOYMENT
or a Tax payer funded Holiday?

Christ you people are tragic you would cry if you were excluded and then take a dump that there was work to do

And you DREAM UP SOME UTTER BS that there is Work there because kiwis are lazy

IF YOU DO NOT LIKE NZ or NZers do yourself a favour and LEAVE

Ozzies are great with this type of thing FIFO is what they say

F I F O

FIT IN OR FARK OFF

they work hard ozzies but they know how to enjoy their great country
and if you dump on OZ they say

YOU KNOW where the DOOR Is?
FIFO
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January 6, 2015 10:19pm
Rachael Membery

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11382688

Reality check for Mona Dotcom.
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January 6, 2015 10:26pm
publicwatchdog

So Alex Masterley – in your view – the Local Government (Rating) Act 2002 doesn’t apply to Auckland Council – only citizens and ratepayers?

You’re another one who purports to be a lawyer ‘Alex’?

Do you bother to actually read the relevant law before you pontificate upon it?

Just asking …..

Kind regards

Penny Bright
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January 6, 2015 10:48pm
publicwatchdog

Yep – Kiwiblog attracts some sick puppies!

All vented now Steve?

You have a good sleep – you poor, sad wee thing.

Hopefully you’ll feel better tomorrow.

Kind regards

Penny Bright
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January 6, 2015 10:52pm
alex Masterley

Penny at 10:48,
Yes I am a lawyer. The phrase used by a judge in the high court recently ito describe people of my vintage is senior and experienced.
Yes I have read the act, as it happens.
I don’t think it says what you would like it to say.
and that is all I propose to say.
That’s all for me tonight. I have an appointment on a golf course tomorrow and some Pinot Gris to drink while I watch some a league football.
Good night all.
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January 6, 2015 11:15pm
Fight Communism

and do you know what the AVERAGE KIWI
who you bunch of retards arrogantly assume is lazy?

OUT DOES THEM ALL when they “immigrate” to MULTICULTURAL AUSTRALIA

NEVER EVER IN YOUR LIFE WOULD THESE BLATANT RACISTS RUN A

PRO WHITE KIWI STORY

NEVER

BECAUSE BEHIND IT ALL YOU ARE JUST ‘reverse racists”

YOU LITTLE BULL SH8t theory does not stack up because the average Kiwi does better than the Average
ozzy and all the worlds immigrant races are there

YOU are RACISTs and are traitors to your Country
the one you are in and the one you left.

Non of your Whacky Immigrant theories stack up and they are purely motivated
by Hatred of White People

and what you really want to Say is we need

LESS white people so we can be like home or Liberia or
some other

White Free Utopia

and we all know you are working on you have been for 40 years
and look at what you have achieved

Christ What a joke

We need less “white kiwis” is what you want?

I will leave you with a Quote from one of these amazing immigrants when I told him calmly to move his domestic argument
away from my house

“Shut the Fark up or I will come over and Fark you up you White Bastard”

Woo hoo there they are the Immigrants to NZ are the Somalians stabbing the Tongans or is it Vice Versa?

“Shut the Fark up or I will come over and Fark you up you White Bastard”
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January 6, 2015 11:20pm
ngatimozart

Redbaiter (10,816 comments) says:
January 6th, 2015 at 9:28 pm
To deny that such actions occurred could be construed as racist similar to those of a Holocaust denier.

There is plenty of counter information to all of those claims and they are far from proven. That you are apparently unaware of this makes me wonder who I am engaging with. Either you are an ugly coward trying to shut down discussion, or you have just time-warped in from another galaxy.

Well Red it all depends upon the validity and reliability of said information. Having been trained in and worked with the scientific method I tend to prefer reliable sources that can be independently verified and can withstand rigorous critical analysis. Hence resorting to personal abuse leads me to wonder about the validity of the sources you allude to when you abuse someone rather than provide reliable evidence to support your claims.
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January 6, 2015 11:41pm
publicwatchdog

That’s the story ‘Alex’ – quit while you’re behind.

Have YOU checked your own Rates Assessment notice against s.45 of the Local Government (Rating) Act 2002 for yourself?

If you are a citizen and ratepayer from Auckland – I look forward to your apology.

Kind regards

Penny Bright
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January 7, 2015 12:14am
Redbaiter

Hence resorting to personal abuse

Good grief, here you are calling me a racist and a holocaust denier and I’m the one guilty of what you call “abuse”. Hows that work? You need to get off your PC horse for a change and have a good look at your own conduct. You either allow discussion or you shut it down by falsely labeling people as you have done. All of SH’s claims have been thoroughly debunked.

Not that that is the point. The rules for this site say we are not permitted to apply broad brush arguments according to race or whatever, and I was in fact penalised for making reference to SH’s race even after he had introduced it into the argument. Boasting about his racial superiority as usual, and when I challenged his claims I was convicted of breaching that rule.

Yet here he is falsely painting all white Europeans as murderers of women and children, savages, thieves and “mass murderers”. So he breaks that rule and suffers not even a warning.

Apparently this point escapes you too. But you are of course flat out like a PC lizard drinking to reach for the same old same old leftist ploy to silence views they don’t agree with. Calling people racists and holocaust deniers. Go away and take your rank blind hypocrisy with you.
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January 7, 2015 12:30am
Manolo

In the heart of Istanbul: http://www.ibtimes.com/istanbul-terror-attack-female-suicide-bomber-detonates-bomb-police-station-1774816

A female suicide bomber blew herself up Tuesday in an attack on a police station in Istanbul’s historic Sultanahmet district. The explosion killed one police officer and wounded another, reported Reuters.

The woman entered the police station and told officers that she had lost her wallet, before detonating the bomb, said Vasip Sahin, the city’s governor.
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