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Shawn Herles

” Which school of theological thought supports his take on the bible as prophecy that is imminently close to fulfilment?”

Mike, it’s called Dispensationalism, though in Reid’s case he has, to put it mildly, twisted it in a very odd way, as Dispensationalism is very pro-Jewish and pro-Zionist.

It used to be very popular, and was the “theology” behind, no pun intended, the Left Behind books. It’s also a very modern creation, only appearing around the turn of the century (19th to 20th) and really has no place in Anglicanism.
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December 5, 2014 11:38am
Redbaiter

A typical religious bigot. So ready to preach on the correct interpretation of the bible, but ever ready to arrogantly trample all over those teachings whenever it suits him.
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December 5, 2014 11:42am
Redbaiter

Or even worse, an arrogant braying hypocrite on even the basics, such as his instruction to “play the ball not the man” here, and his frequent contributions in tones matching this little gem-

(Redbaiter is) a Nazi scum bag with the intellectual ability of a retarded, syphilis ridden monkey.

For more in the same vein from Sheriff Shawn see above.
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December 5, 2014 11:51am
Manolo

Calling a spade a spade: http://karldufresne.blogspot.co.nz/2014/12/stop-bullshitting-us-prime-minister.html
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December 5, 2014 12:11pm
Shawn Herles

“Or even worse, an arrogant braying hypocrite on even the basics, such as his instruction to “play the ball not the man” here, and his frequent contributions in tones matching this little gem-”

As I said, if you dish it, and you always dish it first, you cannot complain when someone throws it back at you.

Sooner or later bullies always get their comeuppance.
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December 5, 2014 12:13pm
wikiriwhis business

These 10 Corporations Control Almost Everything You Buy

http://www.realfarmacy.com/these-10-corporations-control-almost-everything-you-buy/
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December 5, 2014 1:18pm
Redbaiter

“As I said, if you dish it, and you always dish it first, you cannot complain when someone throws it back at you.”

Who is complaining?

The people who read this blog seem to be doing most of it, and I don’t blame them. I would complain to if some selfish OCD suffering bigoted coward used a blog I enjoyed to pursue a vendetta against someone whose political views they disapproved of.

As for me, you’re just one of many who have stalked me in this fashion Shawn. You have about twenty precedents at least who were also enthusiastically ready to sacrifice orderly debate to continue their obsession.

And don’t come here with you usual brazen lies about that not being true when your outrageous statements above make it plain that is your ambition.

“So long as you continue to call me and others commies and progs you give up the right to speak for yourself.”

“You have no rights Red. You give those up every time you make stupid and cowardly accusations that almost everyone on this blog is a commie.”

So, as long as you continue with that tactic, I will happily respond in kind. For example, I seriously think you are half a goose step from being Nazi scum, the kind of sick freak that would have had your hand up before anyone else to join the Nazi SS in order to rid the world of “Marxism.”

See how that works?

Im other words, because you are irritated by my exposure of your pretensions to Conservatism for the fakery it so obviously is, this gives you the right to stalk me, abuse me, and misrepresent me. And you do this on David Farrar’s blog without a care for the daily disruption it causes.

And then, in yet another example of utterly stark hypocrisy, you run to tell tales on other commenters, and push Mr. Farrar into giving them warnings, when you are most notable for as much if not more gratuitous abuse than anyone on here.

“Play the ball not the man” says the despicable hypocrite, while the blog is littered with so many example of his obscene hate it is beyond a joke. Just a few examples from the hundreds that exist-

Your a nasty, pompous, arrogant and ill-mannered man with serious anger management issues, an ego the size of Manhattan, and a massively over-inflated sense of your importance in the world.

He’s a twisted, hate-filled Jew hater and you are a sick and disgusting racist.

Red and Reid together. Why am I not surprised. You two sickos can plan the next Holocaust together.

So RedNazi, have you written a letter to John Key informing him that his Jewish heritage makes him unfit to say anything about the NZ flag?

Ah, the other Nazi freak chimes in.

So how long have you been a Nazi scumbag for?

Nazi scum like you pretend that whoever your slaughtering, Native Americans, Gypsies, Jews, it’s always for “progress”.

I seriously think you are half a goose step from being Nazi scum, the kind of sick freak that would have had your hand up before anyone else to join the Nazi SS in order to rid the world of “Marxism.”

that would be the white supremacy filth you promote and the mentally retarded crap about how wonderful the slaughter and murder of Native Americans was.

Given your frequent predilections for brainless comments, trolling, racist ignorance, and white supremacy, in my opinion it is perfectly reasonable to consider you a Nazi scum bag with the intellectual ability of a retarded, syphilis ridden monkey.

There is only one acceptable explanation for such rank hypocrisy. No normal sane person could be capable of this kind of self delusion. It just has to be a mental problem. I’m afraid that there’s no much you can do to deal with people who should really be locked up in rubber rooms weaving baskets.
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December 5, 2014 1:36pm
Griff

Red bait
you reap what you sow
trying to insult everyone with your chosen epithet of the week when they disagree has been a function of your style since before blogs arose
this I can prove easily
Gordon McLauchlan: Tauranga populated by obsessives

But beware of commies as much as ever, according to our Russell Fletcher. He sent me one of those rabid, right-wing tirades from the internet which explains that communists haven’t gone away, they have just transmuted into all those people its author hates.

You are of course familiar with this redbaiter http://nz.politics.narkive.com/kE4wwWsf/fantastic-similarities-redbaiter-russell-fletcher.2
We know that Russel Fletcher is not your actual name but the man he is referring to is you.
We can find many more examples of your history of insults and nuttery dating from the last decade .
The reason why you have been permanently banned by just about every blog in New Zealand.
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December 5, 2014 1:56pm
Shawn Herles

Redbaiter, you brought those comments on yourself by attacking me first. The very first response to me was a gutless personal attack, the same gutless personal attacks you aim at everyone from our host, to Griff, to David G and anyone else who dared disagree with you.

Now you are whining like a little girl because someone stood up to your sad and pathetic bully boy abuse and threw some back at you.

That is what happens to bullies. Red. Sooner or later, you come across someone who stands up to you.

Your potential problem is larger than that though, but you don’t see it.

Yet.

Take heed Red. So far I have actually dealt with you very lightly.

Pray that does not change.
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December 5, 2014 2:00pm
Scott

I actually enjoy Redbaiter and think he adds something to the blog. I used to like Lee001 who I thought used to make good comments but now that he has become Shawn he seems to spend all of this time picking fights with reddy.

So I would like Shawn to stop picking fights with Reddy all day long and then the 2 of you, who basically are on the right side of the political spectrum, could get on with the real task at hand which is defeating the long leftward march through the institutions and restoring sanity and common sense to our once great nation.
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December 5, 2014 2:01pm
Shawn Herles

This from Red on another forum.

“Fuck off scum. This kind of perverted use of usenet is totally
off topic in any newsgroup.
This is a discussion group, not an outlet for leftist filth like
you to pursue vendettas against posters they disagree with, you
revolting old past its use by date piece of usenet slime.
You and your ilk are to usenet what dog shit is to footpaths.”

“I don’t care retard. Fuck off.”

Take a look folks, and see the truth about “redbaiter” “Russel Fletcher” or whatever his real name is. He has been using this abusive and bullying style for years now, DESPITE HIS LIE THAT HE DOES NOT.

Says it all that he is such a coward that he hides his identity.

http://nz.politics.narkive.com/kE4wwWsf/fantastic-similarities-redbaiter-russell-fletcher.2
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December 5, 2014 2:09pm
Shawn Herles

“but now that he has become Shawn he seems to spend all of this time picking fights with reddy.”

“Red”, whoever the anonymous coward is, picked a fight with me.

Stupid mistake.

Shawn is my first name. Lee my second.
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December 5, 2014 2:10pm
Shawn Herles

More on “Redbaiter”.

“Redbaiter seems to have a lot of free time to spend in these groups
But anyone like him in the real world who had so much interest in the
political process would be out there doing stuff in public instead of
wasting effort in a newsgroup forum with only a handful of members

For someone who claims to be working Redbaiter spends a lot of time
posting during ordinary working hours

Let’s face it if Redbaiter had a wife or family he’d have no time for
them with the amount of time he spends in these newsgroups

Conclusion
Redbaiter is a non working individual who has a lot of spare time that he
spends posting fruitlessly in these newsgroups and other forums to an
audience of largely toadies for some sort of thrills or adulation that he
gets from it

No doubt there are many other forums than these ones.

Redbaiter has some sort of disability that means he uses these forums
instead of getting out and participating in public political forums in
his community

Redbaiter lives alone or has some explanation to his family for spending
such long hours on the internet in these many forums apart from this one
where he often posts all day long just as he did back before eAster when
he spent a whole day posting hundreds of flames”

http://nz.general.narkive.com/32YTaJac/redbaiter-s-posting-habits

Read the whole thread. It is VERY revealing.
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December 5, 2014 2:16pm
Shawn Herles

This is from TEN years ago! “Red” has not changed at all, and he has been taken to task by others long before me.

“In appreciation of redbaiter…I have decided to give him the day off. His
hard work in lowering the tone of the discussions,generating new invective
and finding fault in everyone but himself should not go unrewarded.

So here you are redbaiter…todays posts just for you! You can now drink all
day without interruption.

……..you’re just a time wasting fool. Fuck off.
……..its a sign of being fed up with psychotic
stalking leftist hate merchants using this forum to attack
anybody with contrary views to their own.
…….After that little episode, you’re in
my abusive leftist file to stay arsehole.
…….Drop dead you insulting transparent lying duplicitous leftist
prick.
……..You proved yourself an arsehole, now you want the same kind of
treatment as someone prepared to discuss issues reasonably? fuck
off idiot, I have no time for delusional losers like you.
post your off topic shit somewhere else.
…….. Fuck off then you time wasting bandwidth wasting braindead
hypocritical abusive leftist fuckwit.
………Good god you confused big government mungbeans piss me off.
……..For fucks sake, where did you
fucking idiots get brainwashed with the idea that business needs
government???
………God you are one pain in the arse fuckwit.
……….Just keep it up you treasonist leftist fuckwit.
………Get off usenet preacher.
………What the fuck has this got to do with your original claim that
their is “balance” you time wasting moron?
……..I do not even have the faintest idea what you are on about you
irrational raving time wasting idiot.
……..You should keep you ignorant smug pronouncements to yourself,
creep.
………Off topic you bloody boring stupid moron..
…….For fuck’s sake get a life.

Enjoy your day redbaiter. :)”

http://nz.general.narkive.com/VMRvVAd3/a-wee-gift-for-redbaiter
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December 5, 2014 2:21pm
Shawn Herles

So, we have now proved beyond doubt that “Red” is the real hypocrite who has been using extreme abuse for at least a decade, has been repeatedly banned for it from lord knows how many forums, and his claim to be the victim here is total hogwash!

Red is an unhinged abusive troll, and he has been for a decade or more. Moreover, he has clearly been living off the taxpayer for a very, very long time, in total contradiction to his claimed politic views.

How long have you been on welfare for “Red”??? Ten years or more?
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December 5, 2014 2:25pm
Shawn Herles

“Go and see a psychiatrist. Seriously.

When somebody writes something like this it makes me seriously question their sanity and my open comments policy.

“”Never mind, you’re right to fear us, because we are coming after Progressive scum like you, and we will eventually strip from you every last vestige of the political and social hegemony you enjoy at the moment.

“”Savour it well, for I’ll give you ten years max before you’re back in the primeval ooze you emerged from.””

Redbaiter I think you are seriously disturbed and should seek professional advice. I am not troll fishing so comments are closed on this post.”

http://nominister.blogspot.co.nz/2010/07/go-and-see-psychiatrist-seriously.html
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December 5, 2014 2:41pm
Shawn Herles

“Redbaiter” banned from Not PC.

“”The RodBeater troll was back again while I was away yesterday, making himself the subject under discussion and giving you some idea of how much of his bilge I have to delete every day. As Kurt said, “Why don’t you just leave PC’s blog and don’t spoil the online dialog amongst commentators here, with your frequent intrusion. Can you leave us alone please? Otherwise, establish your own blog, which is free to set up. Why can’t you do that?”

He can. In fact, I’ve done it for him. In the event you wish to read the meanderings of Mr Russell Fletcher of Tauranga, here’s where you can go. The rest of us, fortunately, can remain blithely unaware of the slime.”

http://pc.blogspot.nl/2009/10/rodbeater.html
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December 5, 2014 2:43pm
Shawn Herles

More evidence of “Redbaiters” hypocrisy.

“Redbaiter said…
Good damn riddance to that retarded commie bore. Where’d you find her?? Doing the lawns and hedges for Saul Alinski was she??”

http://roarprawn.blogspot.co.nz/2010/06/gardener-stops-digging.html
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December 5, 2014 2:45pm
Shawn Herles

So, we are left with three questions.

Who is the anonymous coward hiding behind the pseud “Redbaiter”

How long has he been on welfare for?

How many blogs has he been banned from?

I think my work here is done. 🙂
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December 5, 2014 2:47pm
dime

The only obvious question:

Why is Shawn such a fuckwit and when will he stop killing every thread on a daily basis?

“I think my work here is done.” – yeah lets go with that, now sail off into the sunset like a conquering hero. all hail snapperhead
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December 5, 2014 3:14pm
cha

All hail ~~snapperhead~~ miracle boy.

fify dime
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December 5, 2014 3:18pm
Shawn Herles

Dime, “Red” and “Red” alone is the cause of any disruption, and “Red” is the only one killing every thread with his thread jacks, fringe nuttery, and extreme personal abuse.

He wanted a fight, he got one.

What to whine about that? Talk to “Red” or whatever he may be calling himself on other blogs, the few he has not been banned from.
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December 5, 2014 3:19pm
dime

shawn – you’re like the wanna be kid at school. trying to fit in. you see someone else who people pour shit on and you jump on the bandwagon.

“look at me, dealing to red” (yeah right)

what you dont realise is that he is your intellectual superior and its plain to see.

as for him “ruining threads”. i saw one this morning where red made a comment and you were right along, off topic, bleating about white supremacists or some such shit.

ride off to the sunset champ! you da man!
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December 5, 2014 3:24pm
Rachael Membery

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/crime/news/article.cfm?c_id=30&objectid=11369564

Watch for the appeal on the appeal.
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December 5, 2014 4:45pm
Redbaiter

” He wanted a fight, he got one. ”

No, I never got a fight.

I don’t mind a fight.

What I got was lies, false allegations, smears and misrepresentation all underpinned by the most rank cowardice and hypocrisy I have observed in a long time.

And I am still getting all of those. From your rank standard Marxist deconstructionist.

Let’s face it guys, deranged psychopathic trolls who don’t give one damn about the disruption they cause are something its very hard to do anything about.
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December 5, 2014 5:01pm
Shawn Herles

@ “Redbaiter” or “Russel Fletcher” or whatever your real name is.

“What I got was lies smears and misrepresentation all underpinned by the most rank cowardice and hypocrisy I have observed in a long time.”

Bullshit. What you got was exposed as a serial abuser, a liar who hides like a coward behind a false identity, who has been smearing, lying and engaging in extreme personal abuse for over a decade, wanking on about your far Right Randian ideology, all the while bludging off taxpayers on long term welfare.

The above posts, all your words or responses to you, prove this. You have been abusing people for over a decade on blogs right and left, and banned from from multiple blogs for that reason. Even far Right blogs like Not PC banned you for your disgusting and dishonorable abuse of others!

Your claim to be the victim of smears is another bulshit lie. You are the one who smears others, and when anyone stands up to you, you whine about being the victim, when it is you alone who are the perpetrator.

@ Dime.

It is Red alone pouring shit on people, and the rest standing up to the little freak. If you want to kiss his be my guest, but associating yourself with such a cowardly, gutless, dishonorable and lying creep does not say much for your judgment.
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December 5, 2014 5:13pm
Redbaiter

“What I got was lies smears and misrepresentation all underpinned by the most rank cowardice and hypocrisy I have observed in a long time.”

Bullshit. What you got was exposed as a serial abuser, a liar who hides like a coward behind a false identity, who has been smearing, lying and engaging in extreme personal abuse for over a decade, wanking on about your far Right Randian ideology, all the while bludging off taxpayers on long term welfare.

The above posts, all your words or responses to you, prove this. You have been abusing people for over a decade on blogs right and left, and banned from from multiple blogs for that reason.

Your claim to be the victim of smears is another bulshit lie. You are the one who smears others, and when anyone stands up to you, you whine about being the victim, when it is you alone who are the perpetrator.

None of that is true. In fact I am permitted to comment at Not PC and many of the quotes you have attributed to me were made by fake accounts. People such as Steve Withers and the Libertarian Kurt (Christchurch) and many others have made numerous false comments using the Redbaiter handle. They’re all over usenet and all over the net.

I am not permitted to post on Chris Trotter’s blog because he is offended by my handle.

I was banned from Whaleoil for calling Cameron Slater an arsehole. An event I have no regrets over. And who hasn’t been banned from that arsehole of a place anyway?

Why don’t you go over to Not PC yourself and use the kind of hate driven language there that you use here. It would be far worse than anything I have ever posted there.

Not to say that I have not in the past retaliated with enthusiasm to communist trolls trying to silence me, and I will no doubt do so again. The fact is that here on Kiwiblog you Sheriff Shawn are the most gross offender as the samples I have extracted from just the last few days prove so well. The same old Marxist contempt for propriety and what is right. The same old cowardice. The same old hypocrisy.

@ Dime.

It is Red alone pouring shit on people, and the rest standing up to the little freak. If you want to kiss his be my guest, but associating yourself with such a cowardly, gutless, dishonorable and lying creep does not say much for your judgment.

You’re the only one currently stalking me Shawn. I think your belief you have an army of supporters is another thing you should tell the shrink about when you finally muster the courage to make an appointment. Unless you’re already under treatment that is. If so, I suggest you look for another Doc, as this one doesn’t seem to be results based.

Unlike you Shawn I don’t have to seek support in imaginary crowds. If I think I am right I am happy to go anything alone.

BTW, thanks for the support Dime. Generally nothing stops these diehard lunatics but a good dose of public opprobrium.
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December 5, 2014 5:27pm
Redbaiter

“All hail snapperhead miracle boy.”

Yes, but was that a Christian event or one of his favoured hoodoo voodooo black magic affairs?

He doesn’t say.
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December 5, 2014 5:33pm
SGA

I wonder if there is anything good on television tonight, or maybe I’ll check what we have in the way of movies (sigh).
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December 5, 2014 5:36pm
Viking2

Nine posts full of rubbish and vitriol all in a row. No one else in between.

Cannot ever remember anyone achieving that before Shorn of any Brains.

Take the advice proffered and FO.

You shall not be missed.

( This fellow is worse than Philu and penny rolled into one.)
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December 5, 2014 5:37pm
Michael

Has the daily General Debate thread been discontinued? Or is Kokila under the weather? [or been given the order of the boot?]
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December 5, 2014 5:43pm
Shawn Herles

@ Viking.

“Nine posts full of rubbish and vitriol all in a row.”

Nine post exposing Redbaiter as a troll, a welfare bludger, and a fraud.

“Take the advice proffered and FO.”

No thanks! 🙂

@ SGA

“I wonder if there is anything good on television tonight, or maybe I’ll check what we have in the way of movies (sigh).”

Don’t worry SGA, I am done. Red has had whatever shred of credibility he might have had buried permanently.
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December 5, 2014 5:46pm
SPC

This thread is the groundhog day that a daily general debate puts rest to.

If there is no new general debate thread here tomorrow, this could give bloggers a reason to get outside and notice why people come here for the lifestyle.
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December 5, 2014 5:53pm
Redbaiter

“Nine post exposing Redbaiter as a troll, a welfare bludger, and a fraud.”

That you find something written on the internet is no proof of anything. I have never been on the dole in my life and that you raise these false allegations shows you’re a coward and a liar who has to make up such distractions because as a debater you have zero ability.

Leaving aside how unchristian it is to allege something so derogatory without a shred of proof. Nobody raised in a good home by decent parents would be guilty of such basic cowardly immorality. Unless they were psychopathic of course.

“Don’t worry SGA, I am done.”

You said that yesterday and it was just another shameless lie. You came back and posted a litany of abuse from 10 pm until almost midnight. I’d reckon you’re going to do the same today too.
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December 5, 2014 5:53pm
Shawn Herles

“without a shred of proof”

The proof is that you have spent at least ten years on blogs almost everyday from morning to night. Even if you worked part time as I do, that would make holding almost any job impossible.

But someone who calls others on the political Right “commies” and “fucked up progs” is in no position to whine about being misrepresented.
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December 5, 2014 5:57pm
Shawn Herles

“Has the daily General Debate thread been discontinued?”

No. This happens now and then, we just miss a day. I have no idea if there is a reason for it or not.
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December 5, 2014 5:59pm
Redbaiter

See, said he was “done” and just like yesterday it was another shameless lie.

This guy is no Christian and he’s no Conservative.

He’s an amoral Marxist loser.

“But someone who calls others on the political Right “commies” and “fucked up progs” is in no position to whine about being misrepresented.”

I express my opinion as I see fit,a nd in your case, it fits like a glove. You’re not on any political right.

What I do not do is lie like a stinking degenerate coward in stating what others say or think. I just say what I think.
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December 5, 2014 6:01pm
jcuk

We must not let Red have the final word 🙂
It is now 1805 on the 5th and no GD, what a relief 🙂
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December 5, 2014 6:08pm
Redbaiter

“proof is that you have spent at least ten years on blogs almost everyday from morning to night. Even if you worked part time as I do, that would make holding almost any job impossible.”

That is just another cowardly lie, of the kind that drips off your tongue without the slightest shred of conscience.
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December 5, 2014 6:09pm
Nookin

Shawn and Redbaiter display the same consideration for others as did the rabble known as Occupy Auckland when occupying Aotea Square. They, at least, had some sense of purpose. Baity and shawn just seem intent on ruining various threads for the sole purpose of flagellating each other.
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December 5, 2014 6:28pm
Shawn Herles

“Shawn and Redbaiter display the same consideration for others”

I agree that the conflict has been disruptive to others, and inconsiderate, and for that I apologize.

I have said what I felt needed to be said. From now on, I am not going to engage with or respond to him, at all.
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December 5, 2014 6:31pm
Redbaiter

“From now on, I am not going to engage with or respond to him, at all.”

What’s this then. The hope that in the third time we can luck in some truth?

And what about all the bluster above about teaching me a lesson?

You’re a liar and a coward whose word means nothing and you will be back as sure as the sun sets in the west.
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December 5, 2014 6:34pm
Griff

😆

Laurie Fleming July 28th, 2010 at 08:54

Unfortunately he won’t get tired. He’s been doing this for years and years. Here’s a typical quote from 2005: “You’re a liar. Get off this group with your obsessive hate
driven stalking and your obvious fabrications you sad retarded
loser.” I’m not going to include the next sentence he wrote at the time…

And then he goes for what he likes to think is the moral high ground by accusing others of abusing “Mr Edward’s blog”. But with his permanent hypocrisy at no time in this whole thread has he said anything specifically about the original blog entry – it’s all been a platform for a rant about the media, then a rant about people ranting about him. He won’t go away. All one can do is step over him and pretend he doesn’t exist.
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December 5, 2014 6:44pm
Shawn Herles

Is a Child Tax Credit Just Redistribution?

“Given that our country needs both money and kids, there’s justice in asking a little more in money from those who aren’t supplying any kids. And there’s justice in doing what we can in a free country to help struggling members of our economically stagnant middle class to balance work and parental responsibility. I doubt that this tax credit will actually incentivize people who can benefit from it to have more kids. But it would be good if it did.”

http://www.theimaginativeconservative.org/2014/10/child-credit-tax-just-redistribution.html
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December 5, 2014 6:44pm
Viking2

Insurance Council warns of a two-track system of liability for ACC compensation, one where injury results in a conviction, one without
Posted in News December 5, 2014 – 03:00pm, Guest

New Zealanders may very well be personally liable to top-up ACC compensation if they are convicted of any criminal offence that causes bodily injury to another person, says the Insurance Council of New Zealand.

From 6 December, as a result of the Sentencing Amendment Act 2014, if you’re convicted of an offence causing injury, the Courts could increase the amount of reparations to pay.

“Many New Zealanders will be blissfully unaware that from this Saturday if, for example, they commit a motoring offence or a breach of health and safety legislation that causes personal injury to someone else they could be forced to pay reparations over and above ACC compensation limits,” says Insurance Council Chief Executive Tim Grafton.
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http://www.interest.co.nz/news/73242/insurance-council-warns-two-track-system-liability-acc-compensation-one-where-injury-resu

Exposure to higher reparations orders can extend to many other areas, such as health and safety breaches in the workplace, breaching the Dog Control Act or many other instances where an offence results in bodily injury.

These could include accidents resulting from the use of unregistered vehicles such as cycles or adventure tourism accidents where an offence has been committed.
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December 5, 2014 6:49pm
Redbaiter

“Is a Child Tax Credit Just Redistribution?”

The link doesn’t work, which is no surprise, and a blessing really to be spared any bullshit from bible bashing liberals posturing as Conservatives.
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December 5, 2014 7:12pm
Redbaiter

“Laurie Fleming July 28th, 2010 at 08:54”

Ha.

Y’know Grief, that dropkick communist loser was constantly harassing me way back then and he’s still harassing me on twitter today.

These OCD types get a hold of you sometimes they never let go.

I’m starting to suspect you’re one of them.
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December 5, 2014 7:15pm
Shawn Herles

Public Service Announcement. The link on the Imaginative Conservative post on child tax credits does work.
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December 5, 2014 7:18pm
Shawn Herles

10 Surprising Benefits of Nicotine.

http://smokingjacketmagazine.com/2014/11/21/10-surprising-benefits-of-nicotine/
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December 5, 2014 7:19pm
Redbaiter

Awwwwhhh, he’s still reading my stuff.

Ain’t that cute.

Want the recipe for RIP Sheriff?

BTW, they’re talking about you now the link is working-

There are some so-called conservatives who do seem to be genuinely reactionary. They too readily accept Marx’s description of capitalism as a realistic account of the world in which we live. They think of themselves as living in a techno-wasteland and of freedom as having become another word, these days, for nothing left to lose. Identifying capitalism with America, they become anti-American and anti-modern and almost as revolutionary in their intentions as members of Marx’s proletariat.

Sure right there. Can’t get much more anti-American or deconstructionalist Marxist than this-

The savages were those people like you who stole our land through murder, and then forced marched most of my tribe hundreds of miles to Oklahoma, a march that left thousands dead, including women and children.

We did not invade England and wipe out millions through disease, concentration camps, and mass deportations.

Millions dies from white diseases, were forced off their land into concentration camps, and given disease infested blankets in an early form of germ warfare.

And that is just the tip of the iceberg. By any reasonable standards, that was not just harsh, it was evil and deliberate mass murder.

My people had vastly more genuine individual liberty before the English came along, trashed our property rights, and forced thousands to march all the way to Oklahoma to live in concentration camps.
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December 5, 2014 7:25pm
nasska

Interesting study thanks Shawn. I have a brother with Parkinsons so I’ve sent him the link.
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December 5, 2014 7:29pm
Shawn Herles

No worries naaska. It was a surprise to me. I gave up cigarettes almost two years ago, but still use electronic ecigs with nicotine based juice.
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December 5, 2014 7:34pm
Griff

Ive got half a dozen more up on my browser right now El Gauva and its only scratching the surface of the rubbish you have posted and the crap you spurt.

RodBeater

The RodBeater troll was back again while I was away yesterday, making himself the subject under discussion and giving you some idea of how much of his bilge I have to delete every day. As Kurt said, “Why don’t you just leave PC’s blog and don’t spoil the online dialog amongst commentators here, with your frequent intrusion. Can you leave us alone please? Otherwise, establish your own blog, which is free to set up. Why can’t you do that?”

He can. In fact, I’ve done it for him. In the event you wish to read the meanderings of Mr Russell Fletcher of Tauranga, here’s where you can go. man.http://redbaitersbile.blogspot.co.nz/ The rest of us, fortunately, can remain blithely unaware of the slime.

Here’s the deal derps.

Kiwiblog used to be read by people with influence. Even GD. So it was worth the time and effort to comment here.

Now look at it. Mostly a collection of boring prog trolls with fuck all of consequence to say about anything.

(Excluding my RW buddies here of course. You know who you are)

Sorry. I want to change the political culture in NZ and I won’t do that here with a bunch of time wasting nitwits like the Ekatahuna Imbecile.

I’ve moved on to better things.

Wake up old
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December 5, 2014 7:37pm
nasska

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zs896pcbltmn7lq/Baity%209.jpg?dl=0
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December 5, 2014 8:13pm
Viking2

Jes you lot are boring bastards. Pathetic even.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/9WoM2bHfr48#t=0
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December 5, 2014 8:35pm
Griff

On a lighter note
good news even
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/63881855/Maori-kings-son-convicted
The Maori King’s son’s discharge without conviction on a drink driving charge has been overturned on appeal.

Korotangi Paki, 19, was discharged without conviction after admitting a drink driving charge along with three charges of burglary and theft earlier this year.

The Crown appealed his discharge.

A High Court decision revealed today orders that a conviction be entered against Paki over the drink driving charge.

Judge Mark Woolford weighed the effect convictions would have on Paki’s case to become the next Maori King before making his decision.

He ruled that a drink driving conviction would not have a disproportionate effect on Paki’s claim.
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December 5, 2014 8:38pm
nasska

Muslims claim that they are the true faith, and that everyone since Adam was a Muslim.

But can they explain why Noah brought pigs onto the Ark?
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December 5, 2014 8:44pm
Shawn Herles

“But can they explain why Noah brought pigs onto the Ark?”

Bacon? 🙂
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December 5, 2014 8:45pm
Viking2

An Irishman was walking home late at night and sees
a woman in the dark shadows.

‘Thirty euros,’ she whispers.

Murphy had never been with a hooker before, but
decides well why not, it’s only thirty euros.

So they hid in the bushes.

They’re going ‘at it’ for a minute when all of a sudden
a light flashes on them.

It is the police.

‘What’s going on here, people?’ asks the cop.

‘I’m making love to me wife,’ Paddy answers sounding
annoyed.

‘Oh, I’m sorry,’ says the cop, ‘I didn’t know.’

‘Well, neidder did I, til ya shined that bloody light in
her face!’
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December 5, 2014 8:49pm
nasska

I would like to wish all my fellow KB readers a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New year. Now living in the age that we do, I need to add some terms and conditions to my greeting.

During this festive season, anyone planning to dash through the snow in a one horse open sleigh, going over the fields and laughing all the way, is advised that a Risk Assessment will be required addressing the safety of an open sleigh..

This assessment must also consider whether it is appropriate to use only one horse for such a venture, particularly where there are multiple passengers. I would also advise against dashing and would recommend a maximum speed of 10KPH unless seat-belts are fitted..

Please note that permission must also be obtained in writing from landowners before their paddocks may be entered..

To avoid offending those not participating in celebrations, we would request that laughter is moderate only and not loud enough to be considered a noise nuisance..

Benches, stools and orthopaedic chairs are now available for collection by anyone working as shepherds during this festive season and are planning or required to watch their flocks at night. While provision has also been made for remote monitoring of flocks by CCTV cameras from a centrally heated shepherd observation hut, all users of this facility are reminded that an emergency response plan must be submitted to account for known risks to the flocks. This must be briefed to all shepherds and copies of signatures recorded..

The angel of the Lord is additionally reminded that, prior to shining his/her glory all around, s/he must confirm that all shepherds are wearing appropriate Personal Protective Equipment to account for the harmful effects of UVA, UVB & the overwhelming effects of Glory..

Following last years well-publicised case, everyone is advised that Equal Opportunities legislation prohibits any comment with regard to the redness of any part of Mr R Reindeer. Further to this, exclusion of Mr R Reindeer from reindeer games will be considered discriminatory and disciplinary action will be taken against those found guilty of this offence..

While it is acknowledged that gift bearing is a common practice in various parts of the world, everyone is reminded that the bearing of gifts is subject to our bribery policy and all gifts must be registered. This applies regardless of the individual,.

It is particularly noted that direct gifts of gold is specifically precluded, while caution is advised regarding other common gifts such as aromatic resins that may evoke allergic reactions, such as frankincense, myrrh and other well known High Street body & bath oils..

Finally, in the recent instance of an infant found tucked up in a manger without a crib for a bed, Social Services have been advised and will be arriving shortly..

Have a Merry Christmas and a Safe New Year.
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December 5, 2014 8:59pm
SPC

nasska, no idea.

Jews would say that pigs were preserved (and other unclean foods for Jews) so there was a food that they would not contest over.

Either that or so the Gentiles could taste salt with their meat. The NT goes onto explain in Mark Chapter 6 how Gentile cities that were not converted to Christianity would suffer judgment worse than that of Sodom and Gomorrah – for knowing the taste of salty meat without being baptised (all that salt without water being bad for the Gentile).
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December 5, 2014 10:01pm
cha

Because.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXCh9OhDiCI
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December 5, 2014 10:27pm
SPC

The righteous Moslem does not eat their meat with the life of the blood in it (halal kill) – thus could be seen as righteous Gentiles before the Jew but for their problem with keeping their jihad from turning violent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Laws_of_Noah
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