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cricko

mikenmild
you pathetic article. 7.18

Read through the above.

So, you conclude that because I failed to respond to one of the hundreds of your inane posts
that I must be drunk.

You pathetic sad sack.

You joke.
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December 27, 2014 7:46pm
Lucia Maria

Thanks, Shawn.

Good stuff on misrepresentation on on the Middle Ages. I have a book by Regine Pernoud, Those Terrible Middle Ages: Debunking the Myths that goes into more detail, as only a book can.

I’ve always been fascinated with the Middle Ages, ever since I was a child, and so reading anything on them.

The article does get a bit muddled up at the end, it’s almost as if the writer is forcing a choice between today and the past. That’s not quite right, of course – I’d have to think more about what he’s trying to say to give a more accurate assessment.

Anyway, interesting, thank you!
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December 27, 2014 7:57pm
Lucia Maria

Mike,

Yes Lucia, I’m aware that you believe in a God that is different from all the other gods that humans believe in.

Quite right. One is a very real being who has a name, and the others are imaginary.

Reid,

THEY are the same, the respect one gives, is what’s different.

Yes and no, Mike summarises it quite well. The lack of respect (this is where I agree with you) is in the pretense that God is just one of many.
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December 27, 2014 8:00pm
srylands

This is the ‘devilish detail’ that I want to see published on the FRONT PAGE of Auckland Council and ALL Auckland Council Controlled Organisation (CCO) websites:

https://at.govt.nz/media/618879/NZTA-Awarded-Contracts.pdf

With the added proviso that this information applies to ALL ‘awarded contracts’ – not just those over $50,000.

Got it?

Yeah so what? How does that improve government? It is batshit crazy thing to do. You need to focus on the outcomes you want from government, and on improving efficiency. A laundry list of contracts awarded will not do that.

And cut out the “keep up” bullshit arrogance.
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December 27, 2014 8:17pm
freemark

The test is looking good, and great to keep a watchful holiday eye on. Just look however, at the woeful state of some duck wits in NZ who are against some of the great things about us as a nation..”Despite this, Hagley’s debut so far has been a roaring success. It’s been four years in the making and those pushing for it – chiefly Canterbury Cricket boss Lee Germon – have jumped through plenty of hoops. Protesters, council meetings and hearings and a full Environment Court trial have all been dodged and beaten.”
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December 27, 2014 8:30pm
mikenmild

freemark
Everyone knows that the Boxing Day test should be at the Basin Reserve, but we have generously given this one to poor old Christchurch.
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December 27, 2014 8:32pm
nasska

….”Everyone knows that the Boxing Day test should be at the Basin Reserve, but we have generously given this one to poor old Christchurch.”…..

You will receive your reward in the next life Mike. 🙂
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December 27, 2014 8:44pm
Viking2

cricko (470 comments) says:
December 27th, 2014 at 5:57 pm

you really are a crap head.
You asked a question, I gave you an answer about where to look.
Why the fuck should I spoon feed you like a 6 month old baby and look it all up etc.
I have been aware of this for years. go do your own work i.e. if you are not another beneficiary who wants some one to feed you and wipe your arse.
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December 27, 2014 9:06pm
cricko

V2

now who is drunk ?

Silly billy.
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December 27, 2014 9:17pm
Kiwi Dave

Lucia, I went to your first link about secular society and the essay reminded me of those pseudo-profound speculative essays, particularly by continental intellectuals who liked to air their erudition, which used to impress me as a university student nearly 50 years ago, but I eventually saw as little more than evidence-free assertions linked by a few dodgy conceits.

The author ‘proves’ the argument through an etymological examination of ‘secular’ combined with very poorly supported assertions/insinuations about the time frames of theists and non-theists and, oh, isn’t it suggestive that an early secularist supported contraception? And all this in an entirely Euro-centric essay ignoring other societies. The author might or might not be right, but this essay proves nothing.
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December 27, 2014 9:21pm
cricko

Now some may ask, “who is Lyn Provost ?”

But…..

If Lyn does have shares in Sky as publicwatchdog claims…..
then what could be wrong with that ?

Look it up…who is Lyn Provost?
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December 27, 2014 9:39pm
nasska

It was exactly twenty three years, four months, twelve days, nine hours, thirty seven minutes and eighteen seconds ago when a fairy appeared and asked me if I wanted a huge penis or a brilliant memory.

In hindsight I made the wrong decision.
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December 27, 2014 9:42pm
Shawn Herles

@ Kiwi Dave

The author ‘proves’ the argument through an etymological examination of ‘secular’ combined with very poorly supported assertions/insinuations about the time frames of theists and non-theists

What specifically did you consider “assertions/insinuations’?

And all this in an entirely Euro-centric essay ignoring other societies.

This is the standard Leftist assertion that to be Euro-centric is somehow bad. Euro-supremacy would certainly be bad, but it is perfectly natural for Europeans to take a European view, and it was Europe and the West that this article was about in the first place.

The author might or might not be right, but this essay proves nothing.

This is a contradiction. If he MAY be right (or wrong) then that does prove something.

Apart from that, the idea that philosophical reflections and essays have to “prove” anything is a highly dubious notion, usually predicated on a view of “proof” that is subjective and often little more than convenient word games.

So, as far as I can tell your objection is an assertion about assertions, the fact that it was from a European perspective, and that he may or may not be right.

Not a very convincing critique.
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December 27, 2014 9:46pm
freemark

Hey Cricko
How much rent do you pay Penny, and do you get a discount for sycophantic comments on KB?
Do you get a receipt?
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December 27, 2014 9:47pm
cricko

Fukin idiot down ticks the question, “Who is Lyn Provost ?”

If she does have a monetary interest in Sky, then why would that matter ?
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December 27, 2014 9:51pm
Inandout

nasska: You got shafted by that fairy then. I asked for an upgrade and she offered me both, and she added that a man’s brain resides there anyway.
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December 27, 2014 9:53pm
mikenmild

Shawn
Lucia’s tame philosopher essentially argued that there could be no such thing as a secular society because…God.
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December 27, 2014 9:55pm
cricko

and there @9.47 we have a ‘contribution’ from a deep thinker called ‘freemark’

Two questions are the best that this prat can come up with.

Never submitted an origional thought.

Asks others to explain the obvious.

‘kin idiot.
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December 27, 2014 9:59pm
mikenmild

cricko
There were actually three questions there. Just saying.
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December 27, 2014 10:03pm
Kiwi Dave

Shawn – Euro-centric isn’t bad in my opinion, just seriously incomplete in this context when unqualified assertions about secular society, which is not exclusive to Europe, are being made. As someone who considers himself very much a child of the European enlightenment, I’m highly Euro-centric myself, but it’s not the whole world.

Assertions/insinuations – e.g, the 100 year time-frame of secularists, the superficial comments on secular morality.

Alas, I won’t read your reply as it’s past my bed time.
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December 27, 2014 10:11pm
cricko

And guess what,
I do credit you with having a brain mikenmild.

Would you give equal credit to the article called ‘freemark’ ?

Bet you would not.

Just sayin.
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December 27, 2014 10:16pm
cricko

Well,

despite all the puke, it seems that there is no one home.
All the big brains must be held up in traffik.

Just sayin.
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December 27, 2014 11:55pm
IGM

public dog is now threatening defamation . . . come on dog, who is funding you. Could it be you are visiting the bunker with the rest of the left-wing scum?
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