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hj

From The Head of the Asia NZ Foundation:

Papademetriou (2000) captures well a prevailing view about international migration in the
contemporary world – a world in which population movement is assuming
increasing significance as a force for social transformation everywhere. He
echoes Castles and Miller (1998:1) who lay considerable emphasis on the
role of international migration in creating “novel forms of interdependence,
transnational society and bilateral and regional co-operation [ that ] are
rapidly transforming the lives of millions of people and inextricably weaving
together the fates of states and societies”. Castles and Miller (1998:1)
acknowledge that while the movements of people across borders have
shaped states and societies for centuries, “what is distinctive in recent years
is their global scope, their centrality to domestic and international politics
and their enormous economic and social consequences”

The immigration policy review in 1986 was part of a much larger
agenda for change in New Zealand (Bedford 1996). It was not essentially a
change in state policy with a primary focus on one region of the world, as
Parr (2000:329) suggests, although clearly through the 1980s and 1990s
immigration from countries in Asia was a highly topical issue for both
politicians and the public. The attitudes of New Zealanders in the mid-1990s
towards immigration may not have reflected the positive perspective on the
value of diversity in our society that is contained in the Review of
Immigration Policy August 1986. But this does not mean that the globalisation
of immigration to New Zealand was an “unintended consequence of policy
changes in 1986”. It was a deliberate strategy, based on a premise that the
“infusion of new elements to New Zealand life has been of immense value to
the development of this country to date and will, as a result of this
Government’s review of immigration policy, become even more important in
the future” (Burke 1986:330). The data on arrivals, departures, approvals,
refugee flows and net migration gains and losses reported in this paper
indicates that “the infusion of new elements” into New Zealand society is
proceeding apace. There is no suggestion in immigration policy in 2002 that
this will not “become even more important in the future”, as Burke (1986)
assumed in the mid-1980s.

New Zealand’s population is undergoing a profound transformation in
terms of its ethnic and cultural composition. This transformation is being
driven by two key processes. The first of these is differential ageing of the
major components of the resident population with the dominant “white”
population experiencing structural ageing more rapidly than the Maori and
Pacific Island components (Pool 1999). The second is international
migration which is seeing a replacement in numerical terms of tens of
thousands of New Zealanders who are moving overseas by immigrants from
countries in Asia, Europe and Africa especially. This process of population
replacement is occurring at a time when natural increase amongst all
components of the New Zealand resident population is falling. International
migration is thus playing an increasingly important role in changing the
ethnic and cultural composition of the population, but to understand this
role it is necessary to examine both the immigration of new residents as well
as the emigration of New Zealanders. Both dimensions are essential for
appreciating the globalisation of international migration in New Zealand.

The Globalisation of International Migration
in New Zealand: Contribution to a Debate
RICHARD BEDFORD *
CHARLOTTE BEDFORD
ELSIE HO
JACQUELINE LIDGARD

The goal of immigration policy has been to change the ethnic makeup of New Zealand rather than the improvement of the lives of the New zealand population.
http://www.waikato.ac.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/0009/76554/nzpr02-28-bedford.pdf

and as you dig deeper you will find assumptions about human behaviour that are based on outdated marxist ideology.
Outdated because evolutionary psychology has a better explanation of racism and this is backed up by research on the hormone oxytocin.
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December 16, 2014 8:01am
Harriet

The C word.

“……But to see just how far down the drain of deplorable dhimmitude our media elites have gone, just imagine for a moment what would be happening right now if the hostage taker were in fact a Presbyterian Sunday school teacher, brandishing a Bible, and singing Christian hymns.

Everywhere the media would be highlighting the C word ad infinitum, ad nauseum. They would be having a field day blasting Christianity and claiming that it is surely now time to clamp down on this evil religion – one which is so intolerant, hate-filled and bigoted.

Do you think they would feature dozens of Christian apologists who would say this guy is a nutter, an extremist, and has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity? Um, I don’t think so – of course they wouldn’t. They would feature one atheist and secular humanist after another slamming Christianity.

There would be calls to monitor all sermons in churches, all Christian schools, and all Christian websites. A site like mine would certainly be targeted, and the freedom to preach the gospel would be eroded even further. It would be open season on Christianity.

But because this is a Muslim who did this, the entire focus of the MSM is to push the PC line that this has absolutely nothing to do with Islam. Never mind the Islamic credentials of the hostage taker….”

http://billmuehlenberg.com/2014/12/16/taqiyya-dhimmitude-and-sydney-terrorism/
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December 16, 2014 8:06am
oldpark

The aftermath of the Sydney hostage drama.Not a good look , a disaster a bloodbath.All because a so called “TAME” judge granted the hostage taker, bail on another matter of murdering his wife, and 300 alleged illicit sex charges. Would be interesting to hear the background of the so called “TAME” judge, and his reasons for granting bail to the Iranian refugee,for his alleged serious charges.
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December 16, 2014 8:06am
All_on_Red

FFS, hj, this spamming is beyond the pail. It’s blatant trolling.
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December 16, 2014 8:06am
IGM

How long is going to take for Muslim apologists to take over media with a string of excuses and reasons for yet another murderous bastard killing our people? The Newstalk scum have tried to discredit McCully already this morning over the stronger surveillance laws, and I suppose Weasel Goff and Gutless Norman will be greasing all over the air and print. Makes one puke to even think of these mongrels being in our lovely country, let alone trying to force their vile doctrine upon us.
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December 16, 2014 8:09am
Tarquin North

oldpark – he might have been a sportsman. That works well here.
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December 16, 2014 8:10am
Lance

I see there is a social media campaign in Aus to escort Muslims on public transport etc to make sure they are safe.
Funny, that doesn’t seem to happen the other way around.
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December 16, 2014 8:12am
hj

Radio NZ coverage had a lot to say about “our rich multicultural society”. “Feel free to be in Saudi Arabia in Aussie?”
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December 16, 2014 8:14am
Redbaiter

The Cherokee syndrome.

People pretending to be Cherokee or have Cherokee heritage.

Apparently its a syndrome that is widespread in the US, and according to this story on the issue, the fakes frequently claim Metis tribe attachment.

As Kiwiblog readers will know we have a frequent contributor who claims to be of Cherokee Metis heritage.

Apparently the Cherokee are very unhappy with these pretenders. They have established a database where anyone can search out a name and establish whether or not there is any real connection. I put our local guy’s name into the data base and here’s what I got.
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December 16, 2014 8:18am
Paulus

Happy Hanukkah. The Festival of Light.

The 8 day celebration of the rededication of the temple in Jerusalem 165 years after it was destroyed by the Syrians.

Bests part is that one can eat Doughnuts without a guilty conscience.
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December 16, 2014 8:18am
Hugh Pavletich

NEW ZEALAND’S MASSIVE BUREAUCRATIC CANCER PROBLEM

‘Top heavy’ Cera has big salaries | Georgina Styliano | The Press

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/64187201/Top-heavy-Cera-has-big-salaries

New Zealand Taxpayers’ Union

http://www.taxpayers.org.nz/

It is well known, that with its tiny economy and GDP per capita, New Zealand public servants at both central and local level are grossly overpaid, with massive bureaucratic bloat

In a number of the States of the United States it is mandatory to disclose the salaries of public employees. For example … the Texas Tribune reports …

http://salaries.texastribune.org/

In Australia and elsewhere, Local Government Councillors work is properly treated as a part-time job (as it used to be here). Luke Malpass explained a few years ago with COMPARATIVE COST OF COUNCILLORS …

http://www.cis.org.au/publications/ideasthecentre/article/2835-comparative-costs-of-councillors

Government … and Local Government in particular … has degenerated in to a bureaucratic gravy train, that is out of control, as John Roughan of the NZ Herald explained recently with UP CLOSE, COUNCIL IS WORSE THAN IMAGINED …

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/john-roughan/news/article.cfm?a_id=5&objectid=11373428

No wonder our Taxes and Rates are through the roof.
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December 16, 2014 8:20am
hj

and as you dig deeper you will find assumptions about human behaviour that are based on outdated marxist ideology.
http://www.nzmediastudies.org.nz/articles/sueabelmargaretmutu1202.pdf
Outdated because evolutionary psychology has a better explanation of racism and this is backed up by research on the hormone oxytocin.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3029708/
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December 16, 2014 8:20am
Harriet

The 10 Similarities Between Islam And The Mafia. – Raymond Ibrahim

“….While Maher has been criticized for his “Islamophobic” assertion, he and others may be surprised to learn that the similarities between Islam and the mafia far exceed punishing those who say, draw, or write “the wrong thing.”

In what follows, we will examine a number of these similarities.

We will begin by looking at the relationship between Allah, his messenger Muhammad, and the Muslims, and note several parallels with the relationship between the godfather, his underboss, and the mafia.

Next, we will examine the clannish nature of the mafia and compare it to Islam’s tribalism, especially in the context of the Islamic doctrine “Loyalty and Enmity.” For example, in both Islam and the mafia, members who wish to break away, to “apostatize,” are killed.

We will consider how the mafia and Islam have both historically profited from the “protection” racket: Islam has demanded jizya from non-Muslims under its authority/territory and the mafia has demanded pizzo from people that fall under its jurisdiction.

Finally, we will consider what accounts for these many similarities between Islam and the mafia, including from an historical perspective…..

6. Death to Traitors

Once a fledging mafia member takes the oath of loyalty to the mafia—including the Omertà code of silence and secrecy—trying to leave the “family” is seen as a betrayal and punishable by death. Any family member, great or small, is given authority to kill the traitor, the “turncoat.”

Compare this to Islam. To be born to a Muslim father immediately makes the newborn a Muslim—there are no oaths to be taken, much less any choice in the matter. And, according to Islamic law, if born Muslims at any point in their lives choose to leave Islam, they are deemed “apostates”—traitors—and punished including by death. Any zealous Muslim, not just the authorities, is justified in killing the apostate (hence why Muslim families that kill apostate children are rarely if ever prosecuted).
…………..”

http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/ten-ways-the-mafia-and-islam-are-similar/
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December 16, 2014 8:22am
Simon

The State let him into the country, the State released him into the community when he faced murder related charges and the State’s strict gun laws meant he was the only one with a gun.
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December 16, 2014 8:22am
Simon

The reality is public spending cuts are helping Wales and the North
With little new hiring and pay rises frozen in the public sector, the private sector is staging a comeback, and creating jobs and competitive salaries

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11294713/The-reality-is-public-spending-cuts-are-helping-Wales-and-the-North.html

Cut State spending and living standards rise.
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December 16, 2014 8:26am
publicwatchdog

Was a sick, criminal Iranian living in Australia who acted in a TERRIFYING way – a ‘terrorist’?

Define ‘terrorist’ again?

So are dangerous criminals / gang members now all going to be classified as ‘terrorists’?

Or just those who behave in a TERRIFYING way -who are of Middle Eastern origin?

Penny Bright
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December 16, 2014 8:38am
Than

Andrew Little seems to be trying to make “jobs and economic security” his catchphrase. He’s throwing the line into any statement he makes, even on completely unrelated topics. It’s a sensible move. Jobs and the economy matter to ordinary kiwis, unlike the details of SIS/GCSB procedure, or whether John Key texted a blogger.

But Little’s problem (assuming the job focus is not just empty words and he backs it up with policy) is this will inevitably cause conflict with the Greens and their policies over mining/drilling/pretty much everything. Just this morning Kennedy Graham was advocating reducing dairy herds as a way of reducing our emissions. Never mind the dairy workers or factory hands that would lose their jobs as a result.

Between Little’s focus on jobs and his direct, aggressive approach to things I can see Labour’s relationship with the Green’s getting pretty acrimonious.
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December 16, 2014 8:40am
hj

Top heavy’ Cera has big salaries | Georgina Styliano | The Press
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City developer aims high Property millionaire, developer and realtor
_ is building homes to sell all over Christchurch. And he’s just turned 20.
LIZ McDONALD meets the young achiever.

_: “I always turn back to property”. _ may be one of the youngest people in the property game in Christchurch, but he is not without experience.
After qualifying in real estate at 14, he sold homes at 15, became a landlord at 16, built homes to rent at 17 and was a millionaire at 19. So what’s left to Brooks to achieve in the business?
He has just turned 20 and having achieved so many goals already, has had to line up more.
_ has formed his own property company. _, and is in the process of developing his first homes to sell.
“I wanted to become a millionaire by 21,” he says. “But I reached that at 19 and I needed something else to do.
“I’ve had other businesses but I always turn back to property. I had built some for myself to rent, so I thought why not go out and develop property as a business?
“Now I don’t know what to do next — I’ll probably have to make it $10 million by 30.”
In the same way he tackles life, _ is not doing the development business by halves. He has four units almost finished in Yaldhurst, “10 or 2” going in next door, eight planned on two sites in Linwood and Woolston, and several more on the drawing board for neighbourhoods including Woolston and Sockburn.
“I’m hoping to get about 25 houses out in the next 12 months. “I would love to go out and find a section to build 50 homes. Within three years I would love to pump out 300 homes.”
_’ first complex is four pensioner units is under construction on Buchanans Road in Yaldhurst, right next to the 28-hectare Masham block where a major subdivision is going in.
The young developer looks enviously across at the Masham site, saying a subdivision is another item on his to-do-list.
“I’m looking at doing some larger developments. I would like to deal in bigger ones if I can but the problem is the land is so scarce.
“With bigger blocks, not competing with small investors but with larger blocks you are competing
…
HP would rather unleash that sort of motivation without interference of town planning.
The example of Victoria Street was interesting but anyone who did a red zone tour could see that there was no way that a firm hand could not take control. It comes down to Houston v’s Singapore.
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December 16, 2014 8:40am
hj

Funny that those links in post #1 didn’t work?
Unless I misunderstand what I read the intent of social engineering stands out like dogs balls. In whose interests?
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December 16, 2014 8:50am
oldpark

It certainly was a sad day for NZ when the Winston Peters Party joined hands with Russel Abnormal and Materialistic Turei from the commie “green” party, totally opposing the security measures enacted by John Key for the safety of the citizens of NZ. The mentioned so called politicians made a lot of noise last week in Parliament opposing the security measures even Angry Little’s, little party was dragged screaming into the measures. Seems today the silence from the so called opposition NZ Parties has been deafening on the tragic events in Sydney. Wonder why they vehemently opposed the security measures, enacted by John Key to protect NZs.
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December 16, 2014 8:55am
IGM

Public Dog: You are getting out of your depth. Are you contemplating greasing for the Muslim murderous vote in your mayoralty quest . . . it would be all you get. You are becoming more vile and unpalatable by the day.
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December 16, 2014 8:59am
Maggy Wassilieff

Interesting to read of Bali Haque’s criticism of slack teachers

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11374708

Some people would have us believe that all teachers are hard-working, dedicated souls.
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December 16, 2014 8:59am
hj

The Economic Impact of Immigration on Housing in New Zealand 1991–2016
PREPARED BY
Business and Economic Research Limited
FOR THE Centre for Housing Research,
Aotearoa New Zealand AND Department of Labour
MARCH 2008
9.3.2 Immigration, house prices and affordability

The scope of this project specifically excluded the effects of immigration on house prices and the related issue of the effects on housing affordability.
http://www.chranz.co.nz/pdfs/the-economic-impact-immigration-on-housing-in-nz-1991-2016.pdf

Productivity Commision:
We recommend that you:
a agree to the inquiry selection process set out in Appendix 1
Agree/disagree
b agree that Commission’s second tranche of inquiries be selected on the degree that
they:
• are relatively uncontroversial given the desire to establish broad political support for the Commission

http://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/informationreleases/productivitycommission/pdfs/t2011-2000.pdf
don’t want (people) to know?
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December 16, 2014 8:59am
Tauhei Notts

Old Park at 8.06 is right on the money.
The time has come for judges to be accountable to the people, just as citizens are accountable to the judiciary.
WHAT is the full name of that reptilian TAME judge.
I imagine that under Australian privacy laws that cannot be disclosed in Australia. But look at the first four letters of this blog. New Zealand is not a state of Australia.
Help the Aussies out. Publish the name of that imbecile in a domain that is outside of Australia. Then my Aussie mates can treat that person with the opprobrium he (she?) deserves.
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December 16, 2014 9:00am
MT_Tinman

Than (510 comments) says:
December 16th, 2014 at 8:40 am

Between Little’s focus on jobs and his direct, aggressive approach to things I can see Labour’s relationship with the Green’s getting pretty acrimonious.

Than, if Labour want to become relevant again their first fight must be with the Reds who present a far greater danger to them than National ever has.
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December 16, 2014 9:04am
Komata

Than

Re: ‘Kennedy Graham was advocating reducing dairy herds as a way of reducing our emissions. Never mind the dairy workers or factory hands that would lose their jobs as a result’.

Thanks; I haven’t heard the conversation. However, it raises the question:

Exactly WHAT do the greens intend to do to create jobs and economic growth? I have never ever heard ‘definite’; and ‘concrete’ proposals. There is a lot of talk about ‘sustainable’ ‘renewable’ etc, but in respect of actual practical ‘this will give you a job’ situations, there seems to be very little substance and the gween supporters become both evasive and abusive if one tries to pin them down to details. Essentially gween policy seems to be very long on theory but VERY short on substance, and also very contradictory in application (plastic bags at a ‘head in the sand’ environmental protest, being one recent example).

In the absence of Toad, (who seems to have become MIA), can someone explain exactly what ‘concrete’ things the gweens’ would do should they ever come to power (without getting into the political aspect, thanks), or point to a situation where gween policies have been actually put in place and how many jobs have been created as a result? In this instance I am not talking about individuals who have taken-on ‘environmentally friendly’ methods in respect of their businesses, but rather where a member of the gween party has actually made their policies work AND CAN PROVE IT!!

Reducing cow emissions are not quite in this category, hence my questions.

In the absence of Toad, perhaps someone can clarify the situation on the gweens behalf?

Thanks
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December 16, 2014 9:13am
Gulag1917

You let my girl fly off to die’: Jihadi Amira Karroum’s father blames Australian Government for daughter’s death
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/you-let-my-girl-fly-off-to-die-jihadi-amira-karroums-father-blames-australian-government-for-daughters-death/story-fni0cx12-1227154629432
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December 16, 2014 9:33am
Keeping Stock

@ IGM (8.09am) – this fruit-loop is as representative of those who follow Islam as kiddie-fiddling scout leaders or youth group leaders are to the Scouting movement or the Christian church.

Generalisations are a very dangerous thing.
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December 16, 2014 9:53am
hj

All_on_Red (1,694 comments) says:
December 16th, 2014 at 8:06 am

FFS, hj, this spamming is beyond the pail. It’s blatant trolling.
…..
so there is no substance to what i posted?
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December 16, 2014 9:53am
Komata

Re: ‘You let my daughter go… etc. etc.etc.’ and because she was killed it’s all your fault Australia.

While appreciating the father’s grief and the need to blame ‘someone’, ‘anyone’ (except himself and his belief system) for what has happened to his child, the facts simply don’t add up.

The 22 year old daughter made an adult, considered, reasoned choice, despite the ‘known hazards’. She went, (there was no reason to stop her), she saw, she put herself ‘in harms way’, she knew the risks, she died.

And it’s Australia’s (specifically Tony Abbott’s) fault?

yet, if the Australian’s had actually stopped her then would eh be thankful? I somehow doubt it. Heads or tails, oz would have lost.

Sorry sir, it’s no one’s fault but your daughter’s….

One now has to wonder, given the Lindt cafe episode, (and Islam’s obsession with ‘Honour / Revenge’ killings) who this man will try to pay to have Tony Abbott murdered because it is his ‘cultural right’. and the expected response ‘of all good Muslims’ in such situations.

Yet we still let them in to NZ…

(Stands back and awaits the arrival of the ‘usual suspect’ to defend the father’s right and position).
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December 16, 2014 9:56am
Manolo

How long will it go?

Oil prices plumbed 5-1/2-year lows on Monday, pulling down emerging market assets and boosting demand for the safe-haven yen, while global equity markets slipped further after last week’s rout amid nagging worries about worldwide growth.

Will we hear from comrade Norman about peak oil again? Will the communist return to his pet topic?
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December 16, 2014 9:58am
oldpark

Heard the gap toothed liar Goff putting the boot into John Key on his comments regarding the Sydney terrorist hostage taker.Gap tooth was belittling the comments. Of course the comments from a waste of space Goff, who once was seen to hug the terrorist leader of Hamas, Yasser Arafat, as he slipped him $500,000 NZ TAXPAYER DOLLARS,allegations at the time ,was for Arafat and his terrorist gang was to buy guns ,to be used against Israelis. Goff, thirty plus years in Parliament ,sucking out of the taxpayer trough, doing nothing other than tell lies,no wonder he sits on the back benches in debating chamber,with the other all so rans.
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December 16, 2014 10:12am
Shawn Herles

I put our local guy’s name into the data base and here’s what I got.

Red, your basic lack of intelligence is showing, again.

I have said, many times, to you included, that I am adopted. My last name is my adopted father’s name, who was not Cherokee.

Silly child. 🙂

Perhaps you could stir up enough courage to post your real name, so we can check you are really Anglo-Saxon, and not Singaporean? 🙂
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December 16, 2014 10:16am
stigie

Why is Reddy getting all bitter and twisted over your heritage Shawn ? Nobody can work him out as if it matters !~
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December 16, 2014 10:43am
All_on_Red

hj
A short précis and a link would suffice. You’re like Penny Bright. Screeds of shit taking up huge space to scroll past. Also, just like Penny, you make the same point, over and over and over again. Your mate Hugh ( who I used to have a lot of respect for) is in the same boat.
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December 16, 2014 10:58am
Shawn Herles

Stigie,

I have been critical of Red’s “debating” style, his views and claims, and Red does not like anyone questioning anything he says. That is why he responds to almost everyone, not with straight answers to the issue, but with personal attacks and abuse.

In my case I challenged him often enough that he began stalking me online, digging into my past, finding out where my wife works and threatening to send emails there, and various other creepy and dishonorable tactics.

That is where all this obsession about my heritage comes from. He can’t beat me in a straight debate, so resorts to stalking and weak attempts at character assassination.
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December 16, 2014 10:59am
Lance

@Penny
You are asking if gang members are terrorists now?
The ones who home invade helpless people, usually old and infirm, and beat them senseless to steal a pittance.
YES, they are terrorists and should be shot on sight.

Easy answer.
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December 16, 2014 11:41am
Nukuleka

Than: you are spot on about Angry Andy’s predicament. Of course, it is not only any relationship with the Greens that he is jeopardising but also his left wing chums in the Labour Party. Even a cursory perusal of the posts over on The Standard indicate that Andy is already off side with large chunks of his left-wing base over his support for the anti-terrorism laws and his comments post the Sydney siege.

The best way to inflame acrimony within Labour ranks is to promote the view that Andy is wishing to push the Labour Party towards the middle and away from the alleged ‘missing million’ that the left constantly witter on about.

Labour will never be a unified political party and there will always be in-fighting. Those of us who wish to see a 4th term National -led government have a moral duty to encourage these internal wranglings and disaffections!!!!!
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December 16, 2014 11:44am
Shawn Herles

you are spot on about Angry Andy’s predicament. Of course, it is not only any relationship with the Greens that he is jeopardising but also his left wing chums in the Labour Party.

I agree. That said, if he can pull it off by sidelining the rainbow wing of Labour and building a relationship with NZF instead of the Greens, he could be a serious threat to National.
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December 16, 2014 11:47am
Redbaiter

In my case I challenged him

Liar’s code for made up shit and then made up more shit to falsely refute the shit you made up in the first place.

You don’t challenge. You lie and misrepresent. You’re an obsessive psychopathic cowardly troll and stalker who is already on record as receiving the same complaint from more than one person on this blog.
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December 16, 2014 11:49am
dime

Hosking was pimping the hashtag #illridewithyou this morning.. a load of shit.

my question – if i ride with a muslim and he blows the place up, do i get credit? 36 virgins each? 72 each? or do i miss out?
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December 16, 2014 11:53am
Nukuleka

Shawn Herles: Maybe therein lies the challenge for JK. Build a rapport with Ron Mark, the likely successor to Winston, and ensure that NZF are a natural ally for National so that Labour is isolated, with no potential partner either on the right or the left.
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December 16, 2014 11:54am
Shawn Herles

You’re an obsessive psychopathic cowardly troll and stalker

No, that would be you Red, as proven by your post above and your threats to interfere with my wife’s job.

And seriously, how dumb can you be? Putting an adopted person’s ADOPTED name into a Cherokee database? DUH! 🙂

Stop the creepy internet stalking Red, and try to behave like an adult for a change.
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December 16, 2014 11:57am
wikiriwhis business

‘IRD figures show 46.5% of those worth more than $50 million actually declare taxable incomes of less than $70,000 a year’.

Again, this will be business, National Party supporters. definitely right wing supporters.
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December 16, 2014 11:57am
Shawn Herles

Maybe therein lies the challenge for JK. Build a rapport with Ron Mark

Yes, I think you’re right Nukuleka. National cannot continue to rely on ACT and UF forever, it needs more options, and Ron Mark is a more or less straight player without the baggage WP has with National.
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December 16, 2014 12:00pm
Redbaiter

If there is any threat to your wife’s position it arises from your own deranged behaviour on the internet (and Kiwiblog in particular) and nothing else. You choose to use your own name and then act like a lunatic that’s your problem not anyone else’s.
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December 16, 2014 12:00pm
Lance

@wiki
We could play that game all day
Which party would gang members, thugs and welfare /ACC cheats vote for?
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December 16, 2014 12:02pm
wikiriwhis business

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11374520

The media has certainly not been ignoring issues of inequality this year, and for one of the most interesting accounts, see TVNZ’s mini-investigation, Only half of NZ’s most wealthy paying top tax rate. Looking at tax avoidance by multi-millionaires, it is reported that IRD figures show 46.5% of those worth more than $50 million actually declare taxable incomes of less than $70,000 a year.
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December 16, 2014 12:03pm
Shawn Herles

Hmmmmm…

Creepy stalking, trolling the internet for mythical dirt, writing to my wife’s place of work, putting my adopted name into a Cherokee database…..

All lunatic behavior from a guy with obvious psychiatric problems. 🙂

Give up Red. You’re just making a fool of yourself.
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December 16, 2014 12:04pm
wikiriwhis business

Andrew Johnstone: The wealthy enjoy all the benefits of being a NZer but seem to want to drag their feet when it comes to paying for the things that make this little nation such a wonderful place to live in.
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December 16, 2014 12:06pm
Ross12

There is something wrong with the system when Smith can plead not guilty to escape and elect to go to trial –what a waste of money. We all know the result right now.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/64196245/Murderer-Phillip-Smith-denies-charges
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December 16, 2014 12:07pm
wikiriwhis business

“Which party would gang members, thugs and welfare /ACC cheats vote for?”

Probably not the party corporate welfare cheats vote for
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December 16, 2014 12:07pm
Redbaiter

“All lunatic behavior from a guy with obvious psychiatric problems.”

Even your picture confirms it. An overweight self important numpty with NPD and probably a host of other mental issues. The face and the expression give it all away. Loser without a doubt.
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December 16, 2014 12:09pm
wikiriwhis business

In another comment piece, Rashbrook deals with the recent OECD report which suggests New Zealand’s economy has suffered due to increasing inequality – see: Inequality: Too big to ignore. Rashbrooke says we shouldn’t be surprised about this finding: ‘After all – and this is broadly the point the OECD makes – if you have a society in which a large chunk of the population are starved of the resources they need, their economic contribution is unlikely to be huge’. Rashbrooke says that the report ‘is a landmark one, and may represent the moment when inequality really became too big to ignore’.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11374520
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December 16, 2014 12:10pm
wikiriwhis business

Australian Troops Practiced Exact Cafe Scenario Less Than 6 Weeks Ago!

Australian Defence Force (ADF) personnel have conducted a series of counter-terrorism exercises in Brisbane. One of which was the exact same Cafe Hostage Senario!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Rh7u9IZOdA
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December 16, 2014 12:12pm
wikiriwhis business

Brace yourselves Aotearoa…Harvest food seed while you can.Heirloom seed the best.Do not be fooled into seedless as the best for convenience sake.That is trickery.What happens when you have no seed to grow food?You are forced to by from money hungry GMO barons like monsanto.Harvest crop seed now!!!You are warned.

European Commission To Ban Heirloom Seeds and Criminalize Plants & Seeds Not Registered With Government.
►www.collective-evolution.com/…/european-commission-to-crim…/
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December 16, 2014 12:13pm
hj

“A short précis and a link would suffice. You’re like Penny Bright. Screeds of shit taking up huge space to scroll past. Also, just like Penny, you make the same point, over and over and over again. Your mate Hugh ( who I used to have a lot of respect for) is in the same boat.”
…….
I don’t agree. Those academic writings need to be seen in the context of (most of ) a paragraph, so the reader can check whether the inference is correct?
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December 16, 2014 12:21pm
wikiriwhis business

Hostage drama in Sydney to divert attention from the what his government is doing behind the curtains….remember i said drama.
Manawa Te Maru

Meanwhile in parliament …

Complete list of cuts and closures by the government to take effect as from today.

Cuts the Australian Government Solicitor
Cuts the Telework Advisory Panel
Cuts the Protection Zone Committees
Cuts the Forces Entertainment Board
Cuts the Antarctic Research Assessment Committee
Cuts the Australian Antarctic Names and Medals Committee
Cuts the Biological Diversity Advisory Committee
Cuts the Climate Adaptation Outlook Independent Expert Group
Cuts the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority Advisory Board
Cuts the Health and Hospitals Fund Advisory Board
Cuts the National Advisory for Tertiary Education, Skills and Employment
Cuts the Inspector of Transport Security
Cuts the Reconstruction Inspectorate
Cuts the Development Allowance Authority
Abolishes the Artbank Advisory Committee
Abolishes the Australian and New Zealand Standard Diagnostic Procedures Working Group
Abolishes the Benchmarks Working Group which monitors acute hospital performance
Abolishes the Department of Agriculture – Live Animal Export Division – Industry Government Implementation Group
Abolishes the Forestry and Forest Products Committee
Abolishes the National Surveillance and Diagnostics Working Group
Abolishes the Laboratories for Emergency Animal Disease Diagnosis and Response Working Group
Abolishes the National Strategies Working Group
Abolishes the New Test Evaluation Working Group
Abolishes the Rabies Preparedness Working Group
Abolishes the Subcommittee on Animal Health Laboratory Standards
Abolishes the Australian Defence Force Financial Services Consumer Council
Abolishes the Department of Defence Diversity Advisory Group
Abolishes the Committee which was overseeing reform to the repair and maintenance of the Navy’s ships
Abolishes the Department of Defence CEO’s round table
Abolishes the Standing Council on School Education and Early Childhood Joint Working Group to Provide Advice on Students with Disability
Abolishes the Fair Work Building and Construction Independent Assessor
Abolishes the National Precincts Board
Abolishes the Pharmaceutical Industry Working Group
Abolishes the Bureau of Resources and Energy Economics Advisory Board
Abolishes the Inter-Jurisdictional Working Group
Abolishes the Local Government Ministers’ Forum
Abolishes the National Disaster Recovery Taskforce
Abolishes the Urban Policy Forum
Abolishes the Australian Council of Local Government
Abolishes the Official Establishments Trust
Abolishes the ANZAC Centenary Public Fund Board
Abolishes the Australian National Memorial New Zealand Advisory Panel
Abolishes the Community Nursing Clinical Advisory Committee
Abolishes the eHealth Technical Advisory Group
Abolishes the Gulf War Study Advisory Committee
Abolishes the Medicines Advice and Therapeutics Education Services Practitioner Reference Group
Abolishes the Medicines Advice and Therapeutics Education Services Veterans Reference Group
Abolishes the Medicines Advice and Therapeutics Education Services Writing Group
Abolishes the Peacekeepers Study Advisory Committee
Abolishes the research working group
Dismantles the Vietnam Veterans Education Centre
Abolishes the Strategic Cross-sectoral Data Committee for Early Childhood, Education and Training
Dismantles the Australian Qualifications Framework Council
Wipes out the Education Investment Fund Advisory Board
Cancels the COAG Select Council on Workplace Relations
Abolishes the Antarctic Science Advisory Committee
Abolishes the Bureau of Meteorology Water Accounting Standards Board
Abolishes the COAG Standing Council on Environment and Water
Disbands the Commonwealth Environmental Water Stakeholder Reference Panel
Abolishes the Emissions Intensive – Trade Exposed Expert Advisory Committee
Abolishes the Fuel Standards Consultative Committee
Disbands the Iconic Sites Taskforce
Gets rid of the Indigenous Water Advisory Committee
Abolishes the National Landscapes Reference Committee
Disbands the National Marine Mammal Advisory Committee
Abolishes the National Marine Mammal Scientific Committee
Disbands the Australia Awards Board
Abolishes the Tourism Quality Council of Australia
Disbands the Anti-Doping Research Panel
Disbands the Department of Human Services Council on Strategy and Innovation
Abolishes the Gas Market – Industry Reference Group
Abolishes the Technical Advisory Committee for the Coal Mining Abatement Technology Support Package
Annuls the Infrastructure Coordinator
Silences the Northern Australia Indigenous Experts Forum on sustainable Economic Development
Terminates the Expert Advisory Panel on Northern Australia
Abolishes the Marine Council
Dismantles the Northern Australia Ministerial Forum
Annuls the Regional Australia Standing Council
Cancels the Australia in the Asian Century Advisory Board
Abolishes the First Peoples Education Advisory Group
Cancels the Indigenous Development effectiveness Initiative Steering Committee
Abolishes the Aged Care Standards and Accreditation Agency Ltd
Cancels the Aged Care Planning Advisory Committee
Annuls the Aged Care Reform Implementation Council
Cancels the Healthy Life Better Ageing Committee
Silences the Minister’s Dementia Advisory Group
Abolishes the National Children and Family Roundtable
Silences the National Injury Insurance Scheme Advisory Group
Abolishes the Australian Financial Centre Taskforce
Abolishes the Current and Former Members of the ADF Emerging Issues Forum
Cancels the National Health, Aged and Community Care Forum
Abolishes the Operational Working Party which advises government on the needs of the ex-service community
Cuts funding for the National Trade Cadetships programme
Ceases payments to apprentices under Support for Adult Australian Apprenticeships program
Abolishes the Australian Workforce and Productivity Agency

Cuts 26 more government bodies down to 6

Mitch Te Kani Pay particular attention to the departments being abolished…..Abbott paving the way for the TPPA.
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December 16, 2014 12:32pm
Shawn Herles

Even your picture confirms it. An overweight self important numpty with NPD and probably a host of other mental issues. The face and the expression give it all away. Loser without a doubt.

LMAOF!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

Really getting pathetically desperate aren’t ya Red?

Any moron with two braincell’s to rub together knows you cannot put an adopted person’s name into any database and get something back about that person’s ethnicity. Seriously, that was truly stupid. You made yourself look dumb and petty, and now you’re desperately trying to turn things around.

You put yourself in a hole. Ya might wanna stop digging! 🙂
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December 16, 2014 12:33pm
Redbaiter

“I don’t agree.”

Actually you make some good points in your comments hj but I think you should try and precis the screeds you post and leave a link to them.

I think you’ll get your point across to a few more readers that way.

As for Penny, her long comments and the silly signature at the end of each one shows she still hasn’t caught on to the difference between the internet and letters to the editor.

Editors edit, so that only the most readable letters are included. There are no editors here. Everyone must do their own editing, so if there are comments that are ridiculously long with space filled up with completely superfluous signatures etc they don’t get read. By choice. I have probably taken the time to read less than 1% of what Penny posts here’s because its so poorly presented.

Same as Grief. Poorly written poorly expressed ungrammatical uninformed error prone drivel full of spelling mistakes. Who has the time to wade through such incoherent incomprehensible rubbish?
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December 16, 2014 12:34pm
Redbaiter

Any moron with two braincell’s to rub together knows you cannot put an adopted person’s name into any database and get something back about that person’s ethnicity.

What everyone knows is that now you’ve made numerous comments on the issue without once linking to a search with the right name.

What do you think is the logical conclusion to be reached from that deliberate omission?
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December 16, 2014 12:41pm
All_on_Red

hj
It’s not for me to judge what people are interested in but personally I now just scroll past you without reading it, mainly because it’s pretty much a one track record.
Judging by the down ticks you get, I’m not alone.
Reds right- take the hint. Please.
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December 16, 2014 12:45pm
Shawn Herles

without once linking to a search with the right name.

Ugh, seriously dumb.

Read this slowly and carefully Red. I’M ADOPTED. I DON’T KNOW WHAT MY BIRTH PARENTS NAMES ARE.

How I know about my ethnicity is from the adoption agency, and from my birth mother through the adoption agency, which passed on that information to me, but did not reveal who my birth parents actually were, as that is the law in the US regarding closed adoptions.

Give it a rest. Every time you try this one on you just make yourself look like an idiot.
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December 16, 2014 12:57pm
Redbaiter

So devious.

Its clear then that if you cannot verify your identity on the standard Cherokee data base then it can’t be verified, and as faking is so common, and you show all of the characteristics of the kind of mental case who would need to fake this kind of idiocy, the chances are you’re a fake.

BTW, on numerous occasions you have promised –

1) Not to reply to my comments

2) to respond to them only by downticking

3) and you have apologised to readers for participating in and starting long winded flame wars where all that is ever important to you is to have the last word and to hell with the inconvenience and rudeness other readers must suffer.

All obviously hollow and worthless promises, for here you are again doing the same thing again. No honesty. No pride. No guts. No honour. Just the same snivelling cowardice and the same old psychotic crap.
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December 16, 2014 1:04pm
Shawn Herles

Its clear then that if you cannot verify your identity on the standard Cherokee data base then it can’t be verified,

I don’t need to verify it, and certainly not to the likes of you. It has been verified to me, and that is all that matters.

Your delusional opinions on the matter are not relevant.

And the only person on this blog who behaves in a psychotic manner is you, as witnessed and verified by today’s bout of insanity.
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December 16, 2014 1:07pm
Redbaiter

I don’t need to verify it,

Of course not. With so many fakes around, that’s the last thing you would want to do.
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December 16, 2014 1:09pm
Griff

Shawn do us all a favor and email a complaint to dpf about reds stalking and attacks on you adopted status.
He is getting creepy in his obsession with your heritage.
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December 16, 2014 1:10pm
Shawn Herles

I know Griff, but creepy and silly though it is, it does not rise to the level of something that needs an official complaint.

Plus, it has the value of exposing Red’s pettiness, and his lack of moral character and intelligence, so in a way he is doing a public service. 🙂
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December 16, 2014 1:21pm
Redbaiter

Sheriff Shawn and his Deputy Arselicker on Patrol again for the Nark brigade.

Bothering busy DPF with their pathetic self obsessed concerns.

The best thing he could ever do for his readership would be to delete the accounts of you two insane obsessives.
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December 16, 2014 1:45pm
Shawn Herles

pathetic self obsessed concerns.

You brought the issue of my ethnicity up today Red, not me, so it’s YOUR pathetic self-obsessed concern.

You just can’t handle the fact that once again, your exposed as a petty, stalking creep who does not even have the modicum of intelligence needed to know how adoption works.

Move on Red, ya lost another one! 🙂
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December 16, 2014 1:49pm
Redbaiter

Get over yourself.

Give it a rest.

Move on

behave like an adult for a change.

Give up Red.

Silly child.

All these little self serving admonitions when you’re conversely found writing long screeds about Redbaiter to all and sundry in frequent examples of your incredible hypocrisy and insane NPD inspired obsession.

Your Cherokee heritage is something you have quite frequently brought into the public arena here yourself. That you appear unable to substantiate your claims makes it a subject worth discussing. You have no hesitation in joining in the rest of the cowards in false claims about D4J’s identity.
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December 16, 2014 1:57pm
Shawn Herles

That you appear unable to substantiate your claims makes it a subject worth discussing.

Only in your sad little mind Red. You’re the only one obsessed by it. People here will say “I’m of Scottish heritage” or, as you do, “I’m of English heritage” and nobody demands documentation.

You have often made your supposed English heritage an issue, such as on the flag change proposal. Can you prove that you really are of English heritage? Are you prepared to have the courage to reveal your real identity and prove this claim?

Yes? No? Thought not.

The truth is your only motivation with regards to this is petty hate for me, and petty and racist hate for First Nations peoples, nothing more.
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December 16, 2014 2:43pm
Sofia

ANOTHER PUBLIC WATCHDOG ? –

Anyway, the Boagan [Michelle Boag] is trying to get her mates Paula Bennett and Simon Bridges to NATIONALISE the Auckland Electricity Consumer Trust, the outfit that holds shares in trust for the people of Auckland and South Auckland and gives every family in Auckland and South Auckland a $335 Christmas dividend cheque each September.

With about 300,000 households getting the $335 each September, that’s $100 million the trust gives to families each year, from the dividends in the shares they own.

But it’s worse. You won’t believe this.
The Boagan plan is to give those Vector shares, worth about $2 billion, to Lyin’ Len Brown’s Council.
Then, one of three things can happen:

1. Lyin’ Len will sell the $2 billion in shares to part-fund his train set or

2. Lyin’ Len will borrow a $2 billion against the shares to part-fund his train set and use the $100 million a year that used to go to households to pay the interest on his debt, or

3. Lyin’ Len will use the $100 million each September to pay for another hundred meters for his train set
Remember, the trust isn’t part of the council. It is a private trust. The Boagan wants Bennett and Bridges to NATIONALISE it to give to Lyin’ Len’s council. And every family will miss out on $335 a year every year forever …
– Cameron Slater
http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2014/12/christmas-countdown-boagan-wants-steal-christmas-ten-dwarfs/#more-168097
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December 16, 2014 2:49pm
Redbaiter

The truth is your only motivation with regards to this is petty hate for me, and petty and racist hate for First Nations peoples, nothing more.

Not so. I admit I am irritated by your trolling and your shameless lies and hypocrisy and your stalking but I do not hate some faceless stupid weak buffoon on the internet. And its got nothing to do with First Nations. Its got to do with fakes who claim to falsely identify with them. As it was a matter of public interest when Elizabeth Warren and Ward Churchill were exposed as fakes, so it is in this little corner of the world with regard to your claims.
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December 16, 2014 2:49pm
Griff

your shameless lies and hypocrisy and your stalking

projection!

Being a wingnut requires a particularly paranoid worldview, teetering on the edge of or falling wholesale into tinfoil hat territory, as wingnuttery causes the victim to refuse to accept any source of information that doesn’t back up their prejudices (essentially, wingnuts are almost always authoritarian as well as being politically right-wing). Constant gibbering about the “liberal media” as well as a slavish devotion to cognitive dissonance, conspiracy theories, global warming denialism, psychological projection, and crackpot theories of economics (i.e. Austrian school) are also, if not required, at the very least nearly universal symptoms. This is all usually accompanied by a side dish of a severe persecution complex.
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December 16, 2014 2:54pm
Shawn Herles

Come on Red. Live by your own proclaimed standards. Reveal who you really are and prove you’re even white, let alone of English heritage.

But I do not hate some faceless stupid weak buffoon

LMAO! 🙂 You just said you had seen my Google account photo so how am I faceless?! 🙂
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December 16, 2014 2:59pm
Manolo

Russia’s big hike of interest rates: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-15/russia-increases-key-interest-rate-to-17-to-stem-ruble-decline.html

In a surprise announcement just before 1 a.m. in Moscow, the Russian central bank said it would raise its key interest rate to 17 percent from 10.5 percent, effective today.
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December 16, 2014 3:07pm
hj

Catherine Delahunty: Maori representation no threat to open democracy
“The assumption that Maori seats on local authorities will destroy democracy is not correct”
– –
backed up by:
“Where this has occurred on councils the sky has not fallen on the communities or upon decision making.”
—
“However, rulings such as the recent Waitangi Tribunal ruling that the rangatira did not cede sovereignty to the British Crown in 1840, provide a basis for a new conversation.

They correct the colonial record by affirming the korero of the indigenous voices which have been passed down from 1840 to 2014, especially in Te Tai Tokerau.

A fresh conversation requires an informed population and a willingness to discuss the relationship between tangata whenua and the Crown without fear of what this conversation could lead to.”
—
is loaded with some key assumptions. Andrew Geddes says that in practice the state has sovereignty because it says it does.

“New Zealand as a Pacific nation has the opportunity to value both the Te Tiriti relationship and the democratic traditions which were imported here.

We need a fresh approach to this relationship and a desire to create participatory models of decision making with more sophistication than Westminster democracy can provide.”
—–
The Westminster system isn’t pefect but it is better than Fiji’s.

“Anyone can stand for a local election but the low numbers of Maori speak for themselves and Maori who speak for haputanga rather than as individuals are extremely rare on councils unless Maori wards are created.”
—-
like Catherine they must be uninspiring
etc
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11374610
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December 16, 2014 3:45pm
hj

wikiriwhis business (4,184 comments) says:
December 16th, 2014 at 12:12 pm

Australian Troops Practiced Exact Cafe Scenario Less Than 6 Weeks Ago!

Australian Defence Force (ADF) personnel have conducted a series of counter-terrorism exercises in Brisbane. One of which was the exact same Cafe Hostage Senario!
…
they should have practised milking cows?
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December 16, 2014 3:55pm
cricko

Heads up,
In light of all the PC bullshit floating around the subject of how terrible are the CIA at the moment.

If you missed the interview on the Kelly File on Fox News today with the bloke who interrogated, waterboarded,
KSM, it’s repeated today @ 6pm on NZ Sky, channel 88.

PS. continues tomorrow @ 3pm NZ time.
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December 16, 2014 4:19pm
chiz

Meanwhile, over wiktionary.org, their word of the day is neverendum:

A series of “neverending” referendums on the same issue held in an attempt to achieve an unpopular result.
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December 16, 2014 4:34pm
IGM

Time is nigh for Press Council to take a look at the treacherous rubbish Vance is writing, and getting published in Fairfax publications. This latest piece about our PM and terrorism is really bad and needs further investigation . . . she is a dog, and possibly being led by a Labour MP of ill repute.
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December 16, 2014 4:37pm
Redbaiter

You just said you had seen my Google account photo so how am I faceless?

Not surprising to learn that you believe there is only a literal meaning to that word.

Your English skills have always been abysmal.
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December 16, 2014 5:26pm
cricko

IGM

thing is, Vance and her ilk love it, if not revell in it the type of response , she is able to evoke from
fair minded citizens such as your good self.

Maybe there is a place for her sort of reporting BUT,

The problem is, here in NZ there is no balance from the other side.

We have coped this shit for so long.

Wait for the devastaing ratings that these prats will have to suck up when an honest
news organisation appears.

By honest, I mean something that has been missing in NZ.

A fair,unbalanced, news source.
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December 16, 2014 5:29pm
Redbaiter

Time is nigh for Press Council to take a look at the treacherous rubbish Vance is writing,

C’mon, the time to get Vance was when she leaked the Kitteridge report. Except they (National) couldn’t because it probably meant the Possum would have gone down too. And at the time they needed him to prop them up.
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December 16, 2014 5:30pm
cricko

Redbaiter.

Vance induced a fricken idiot, Peter Dunne to imagine he may have got his leg over her.
Then she milked him dry.
And she did it with consumate ease.

This was enough to conjure the most ‘principled’, the most ‘common senseical’, the most ‘cofficured’
of all our politicians to dump all his, ‘values’ when his small head spoke.

She’s a smart cookie.

Way smarter, way,way, smarter than poor old Peter Dunne will ever be for e.g.
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December 16, 2014 6:01pm
Manolo

A good read: http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/15/why-hillary-is-not-inevitable-bills-sordid-past/

The key thing about conventional political wisdom is that it is usually wrong. This idea that the election of Hillary Rodham Clinton is “inevitable” is wide of the mark. In fact her survival to the finish line is dubious. The Clintonistas and their dupes in the MSM may not want to open the magnum of champagne just yet.
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December 16, 2014 6:24pm
cha

A 17% cash rate and a ruble in free fall – they’re fucked.

Russia on Monday announced that it would hike its key interest rate to 17 percent, effective Tuesday, citing rising devaluation and inflation risks.

The bank had raised the rate to 10.5 percent last week in an effort to stem a run on its currency.

“This decision is aimed at limiting substantially increased ruble depreciation risks and inflation risks,” the central bank said in a statement. The decision is effective starting Dec 16.

Earlier on Monday, the Russian ruble saw its biggest drop against the dollar since 1998. It strengthened after the rate decision and was last trading at 62.50 rubles per dollar, compared to 65.50 before the announcement.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102264517
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December 16, 2014 6:42pm
Fletch

Dear Wendy Petrie – the new James Bond movie is called Spectre [spek-ter]. You know, like ‘centre’.

Not ‘spektra’.
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December 16, 2014 6:48pm
mikenmild

cha
Won’t that news disappoint Kiwiblog’s Putin fanboys?
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December 16, 2014 6:51pm
Viking2

A man who’d just died is delivered to a local mortuary wearing an expensive, expertly tailored black suit.
The female blonde mortician asks the deceased’s wife how she would like the body dressed. She points out that the man does look good in the black suit he is already wearing.
The widow, however, says that she always thought her husband looked his best in blue, and that she wants him in a blue suit. She gives the Blonde mortician a blank check and says, ‘I don’t care what it costs, but please have my husband in a blue suit for the viewing.’
The woman returns the next day for the wake. To her delight, she finds her husband dressed in a gorgeous blue suit with a subtle chalk stripe; the suit fits him perfectly…
She says to the mortician, ‘Whatever this cost, I’m very satisfied… You did an excellent job and I’m very grateful.. How much did you spend?’
To her astonishment, the blonde mortician presents her with the blank check.
‘There’s no charge,’ she says.
‘No, really, I must compensate you for the cost of that exquisite blue suit!’ she says.
‘Honestly, ma’am,’ the blonde says, ‘it cost nothing. You see, a deceased gentleman of about your husband’s size was brought in shortly after you left yesterday, and he was wearing an attractive blue suit. I asked his wife if she minded him going to his grave wearing a black suit instead, and she said it made no difference as long as he looked nice. So I just switched the heads.”
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December 16, 2014 6:52pm
Viking2

These two short sentences tell you a lot about our Government and our culture:

1. We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.

Funny how that works.

And here’s another one worth considering.

2. Seems we constantly hear about how the NZ Old Age Pension Plan could run out of money. How come we never hear about the Welfare System running out of money ? What’s interesting is the first group “worked for” their money, but the second group didn’t !!

Think about it…..
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December 16, 2014 6:55pm
RF

After reading the standard for a brief minute I am so ashamed to be a Kiwi. The knuckle draggers over there are crowing and gloating that the Govt will not hit the surplus. Christ you would almost think the wicked witch was dead.

It scares me that we have a communist influence creeping into our society with the green duo spreading their filth.
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December 16, 2014 6:58pm
cha

Won’t that news disappoint Kiwiblog’s Putin fanboys?

But gold!.

“This is really extraordinary to watch,” Gartman said. “I wouldn’t be surprised at all if the Russians we selling gold, they have no choice. What else can they sell? They can’t sell any crude oil anymore.”

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102264517
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December 16, 2014 6:59pm
Viking2

cha (4,119 comments) says:
December 16th, 2014 at 6:42 pm

A 17% cash rate and a ruble in free fall – they’re fucked.

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Nah, just proves what intelligent people have known for years.
1. ya can’t beat the market.
2.Central Bankers play with themselves too much, for really despite their ego driven perceptions of their ability to control things like money and inflation, they are essentially impotent.
Been obvious forever.
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December 16, 2014 6:59pm
Johnboy

Jeeze V2. I’m fucked. More guns than ISIS, just got the pension! 🙂

Never had a bene till now. Perhaps I should select my favourite calibre and see if it fits my mouth so all them youngsters can root some more and I won’t be a burden! 🙂
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December 16, 2014 7:01pm
Johnboy

It would have to be a BL16/50 to fit my mouth of course! 🙂
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December 16, 2014 7:02pm
Kea

Wait a minute !

I thought we were well past PEAK OIL and that life as we know it would have ended by 2014.

This was from the same folks who are now preaching climate change hysteria … and lets not forget the nonsense about the Ozone Hole 😆
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December 16, 2014 7:04pm
Manolo

The truth about the Netherlands and violent Islam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFhAM54OB8k
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December 16, 2014 7:05pm
Kea

Thanks Manolo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex48cGR7MGs
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