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Kea

“Psalm 19 I”

stupidboy, yes very fitting.

BTW, It is wrong to think of these folks as “Nazis”. Like many Germans they did not have much choice over who ran the country. I bet they were a lot happier working for the Yanks than Hitler !
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December 14, 2014 4:35pm
cricko

dime,

thanks for the heads up,
great way to spend a rainy Sunday.

While any USA commentators leave any Pommy commentators for dead in any boxing or UFC event.

The bout I just watched. Joe Ellenburger(their favourite) Christian name vs Barberena his surname, they kinda blotted their copybook constantly referring to Joe vs Barberena. Joe this, Joe that, Barberena this etc..
And Joe lost, Barberena beat him convincingly.

Rogan picked it wrong. And that was his first one sided commentary that I have heard.

PS. Dos Santos, wish I could put a couple of thou on him to win by knockout.
Would be money in the bank.
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December 14, 2014 4:40pm
mikenmild

Reid
Surely it isn’t just Disney films. Wouldn’t most Hollywood productions be filled with satanic messages by now? Does that conspiracy extend to Bollywood and Wellywood as well? What should I look out for in the final Hobbit film?
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December 14, 2014 5:01pm
nasska

Deft work there with the paddle Mike. 🙂
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December 14, 2014 5:16pm
cricko

Hi publicwatchdog.
Penny Bright @ 3.16 and 3.23

No I had not seen that before. I would have been intrigued to see the ratings below 6.5 though.
(are they available anywhere ? )

Regardless.

Thanks for that and take heart.
Be sure, many are now slowly warming to your cause.

Keep up your good work.
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December 14, 2014 5:20pm
KevinH

@Penny
Hanover Finance was not a bank, Hanover was a finance company. Do you know the difference?. Your posts on the subject are inaccurate, false and defamatory. A pack of lies. I would suggest you engage legal counsel.
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December 14, 2014 5:21pm
Nostradamus

Kate and Wills slammed as ‘royal robots’

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge have been slammed by the British tabloid media for being “royal robots” in “mumsy dresses and dad-trousers” during their US visit.

But other commentators were more charitable, saying the royals’ wardrobe showed the couple as a united front and reflected a deliberate downmarket repositioning of the British monarchy.

Britain’s traditionally royalist Daily Mail said on Thursday the glamour had evaporated just four years after William and Kate’s fairytale wedding, describing the pair as “dull as Windsor moat water”.

“There isn’t an occasion they can’t live down to and they almost always fail to exhibit the sense of grandeur and dignity that the monarchy demands,” the tabloid said, adding that they had become a “Mr and Mrs Bland who trundle around the world in mumsy dresses and dad-trousers, saying not very much at all”.

The newspaper was commenting on the royals’ three-day visit to the US, a trip BBC royal correspondent Nicholas Witchell said showed the couple avoiding the “competition that existed between Prince William’s father and mother when they were fulfilling engagements”.

“Instead there is a realistic awareness of each other’s ability to command column inches and a desire to work together to achieve the maximum impact,” Witchell said.

It was a point taken up by The New York Times, which said the couple’s clothes, “in their absolute boringness, made a serious statement“.

It said the trip showed William and Kate engaged in the “repositioning of the royal family as normalish folks, in touch with the proverbial ‘real life’, which has been going on since they woke up and smelled the popular dissatisfaction at the turn of the millennium.”

The mind boggles when it comes to imagining the kind of person who wrote this “article” (in the broadest sense of the word), and the kind of person who decided to publish it.

So let’s return the favour, and judge the media’s dress standards, as represented by this “article” (in the broadest sense of the word):
– Superficial
– Pathetic
– Judgmental

This “article” (in the broadest sense of the word) isn’t news – it’s a pile of stinking crap – no wonder I don’t bother buying newspapers these days.
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December 14, 2014 5:21pm
publicwatchdog

Apologies Kiwibloggers
.
Yes – I incorrectly stated Kiwiblog on my 3.23 pm post – when I should have stated Kiwisfirst.

My mistake.

Thanks for pointing that out Nookin and Taking Stock.

I stand corrected.

http://www.kiwisfirst.co.nz is, in my considered opinion, the leading website for exposing judicial corruption in New Zealand, so it is obviously not covering the same field as Kiwiblog.

It is the website of Vince Siemer, whom I am proud to call a friend and colleague.

Kind regards

Penny Bright
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December 14, 2014 5:46pm
publicwatchdog

@KevinH 5.21pm

Gosh – something has JAMMED your ‘apoplectic’ button on FULL Kev?

I suggest you take up your concerns directly with Richard Smith from ‘Naked Capitalism’ – who wrote the article?

Kind regards,

Penny Bright

‘WHISTLE-BLOWER’ – who passes on information in the public domain from OTHER ‘whistle-blowers’ …..
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December 14, 2014 5:51pm
waikatogirl

Everybody having a Sunday morning sleep-in? 8.20 and only three comments, four with this

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Wet Sunday here and the Internet has only just come on after 5.30pm! Got a lot of reading to catch up on!!
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December 14, 2014 5:54pm
nasska

….”‘WHISTLE-BLOWER’ – who passes on information in the public domain from OTHER ‘whistle-blowers’ “….

Pity that they’re around the bend too. 🙂
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December 14, 2014 6:01pm
publicwatchdog

Is this a true record of posts deleted on Whaleoil since August 18th 2014?

Cameron Slater / Cathy Odgers?

http://pastebin.com/9cAugyCA

If so – why?

‘Noting to hide – nothing to fear’ – sort of thing?

Kind regards

Penny Bright
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December 14, 2014 6:10pm
Shawn Herles

No, I’ve done PRECISELY what you do. You’re a satanist because you cited a link to a site that I established was authored by a satanist.

You haven’t established anything Reid, just made an assertion.

Shawn it doesn’t “claim to show” it does show.

They really don’t, and I already know you have no clue on that front anyway. Your definition of “satanism” is based on ignorance and poor sources.

More importantly, there really is no such thing as Satanism anyway. I believe in Satan, but the concept of actual satanic groups (in the real sense of what that would mean) is largely urban myth.

The Church of Satan are not actual satanists. Their a rather silly bunch of Randian Liberatrians who like to dress up as satanists for shock value, but nothing they do has any reality to it, let alone any real spiritual power.
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December 14, 2014 6:14pm
Kea

Penny, get a man in your life to go and have some fun with.
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December 14, 2014 6:14pm
Sofia

‘WHISTLE-BLOWER’ – who passes on information in the public domain from OTHER ‘whistle-blowers’

Well, if that is going to happen often, it will nice if there is more accuracy.
Like the ‘quote’ between the lines given 2:14 appears earlier at 1.34pm
paragraphs 2 – 8
and then repeated towards the end of the post just prior to
“What do you say to this Cameron Slater?”
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December 14, 2014 6:22pm
Reid

You haven’t established anything Reid, just made an assertion.

I’m merely using your rules and your logic Shawn. You do this all the time to others. Didn’t you know that? Well, it’s true. How do you like it?

Satanist.

P.S. If you did what everyone else does, and pick apart the actual argument presented, addressing the actual subject under discussion as a particular point topic and not wildly generalising that the entire field is, in your opinion, flawed; and therefore any particular aspect of it also falls within your opinion of it, then I wouldn’t be throwing your own tactics back in your face. But I’m just showing you, what you do to others, all the time.

Like I said, how do you like it?
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December 14, 2014 6:23pm
publicwatchdog

@Nasska 6.01pm

“Pity that they’re around the bend too”

Seriously, anonymous GUTLESS ‘Nasska’ – you have drawn deeply from your obviously vast reservoir of wit and repartee, and THAT is truly the best you can do?

Here is me, the ‘Tradie’ who has never even been to University, up against all you purportedly brainy Kiwibuggers who want my ‘wings clipped’, for my posts to be restricted or censored or whatever ….. because you apparently don’t have the intellect to debate the ISSUES I’m raising?

Shame on you!

When it comes to the defence of ‘freedom of expression’ – I think it’s fair to say I run rings around most of you whining lot.

(Meant of course in a caring way 🙂

Come on Nasska – to which FACTS and considered opinions do YOU take the most intense dislike, and WHY?

Put your mind to it – FOCUS – and you can do it!

(Remember, with my surname BRIGHT – I’m genetically hard-wired to have a positive and optimistic disposition 😉

Kind regards

Penny Bright
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December 14, 2014 6:25pm
Kea

Reid, Shorn is unable to absorb information and form his own opinions. He simply regurgitates US propaganda as it pops into his head, without understanding anything of which he speaks.

You may as well debate a fungus. At least a fungus has a consistent moral code.
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December 14, 2014 6:30pm
publicwatchdog

Sofia – you’re not breaking your own rules and both READING MY POSTS – then COMMENTING UPON THEM?

Sheesh!

If you don’t practice what you preach dear – you’re full of sh*t …….

( Meant of course, in a caring, if somewhat exasperated way, as you are with folks who have proven that they are – full of sh*t )

Kind regards

Penny Bright
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December 14, 2014 6:31pm
Shawn Herles

I’m merely using your rules and your logic Shawn.

Not remotely. You actually don’t even get the point I am making. You’re too busy indulging in petulant outrage.

My point was not that any article someone links to automatically means a person agrees with it. My point was that in using a source like Makow, it is reasonable to critique that source based on all the things Makow claims, because if he is wrong in one area, he may be wrong elsewhere.

What you do, and it really is only you, is link to articles APPROVINGLY and then try to claim that we should only critique the bits you conveniently want to be looked at. As I said, it’s a dishonest shell game.

Sources are open to critique Reid. That may not suit you, because you use poor sources, but that is the reality of debate. And if you do not want anything you say or claim to be critiqued, you are free to go play tiddly winks instead.
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December 14, 2014 6:35pm
nasska

….” to which FACTS and considered opinions do YOU take the most intense dislike”…..

Just the bits between “publicwatchdog” & “Kind regards Penny Bright”.

….”and WHY?”….

I thought you’d never ask! The largely unsubstantiated crap, the hatred of John Key, the repetitive nature of the garbage, the innate narcissism, the length of the comments without the relief afforded by links.

That’ll do for a start. 🙂
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December 14, 2014 6:38pm
publicwatchdog

Kea – thank you for your concern – but I do already have a lovely man, and a lot of FUN in my life (especially on Kiwiblog 😉

Kind regards

Penny Bright
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December 14, 2014 6:38pm
publicwatchdog

That Nasska – is a PATHETIC response, as YOU know full well.

You’re just another sad Kiwiblogger who can dish it – but can’t take it.

So be it.

That’s YOUR problem – not mine.

Kind regards,

Penny Bright

STUBBORN ‘Whistle-blower’ 😉
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December 14, 2014 6:43pm
cricko

Hi publicwatchdog,

you have taken a huge task on yourself.

Even though, many on this site are now slowly warming to your causes, and you are
slowly winning.

I have no right to offer you advice but I will.
(cant help myself)

Should you focus, and concentrate your attack solely on the Auckland City Council and their many illegal
actions under Mayor Brown.

You will prevail.
Win that one first, then you can move on.

Good luck, and good luck to your family.
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December 14, 2014 6:48pm
Reid

Sources are open to critique Reid.

This is where you leap into gallopingly mental territory Shawn.

It’s not the source which establishes veracity it’s the information in the piece itself. The piece is of course open to full and total critique, but why is the site its hosted on, in the context of what the interweb actually is, also similarly exposed? Why?

For according to you, this means that every single thing every source you approve of is always true, no matter it says, and every single source you don’t approve of is always false, no matter what it says.

So if say, Fox News suddenly announces that Israel needs to kill every single Palestinian in its territory, then if you approve of that source, you’re bound, by your own fucked in the head rules, to agree with that outrageous suggestion. Aren’t you.

That’s your logical problem, with the policy you seem hell-bent on pursuing, and I use those words advisedly.
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December 14, 2014 6:49pm
Viking2

Be afraid. very afraid.
The national Govt. has now placed you and everyone else in the very unenviable position that if you cause an accident that injures someone else you may be liable for ACC topups that could run out to $ 500k.

From December 6, as a result of the Sentencing Amendment Act 2014, if you’re convicted of an offence causing injury, the Courts could increase the amount of reparations to pay.

“Many New Zealanders will be blissfully unaware that from last Saturday if, for example, they commit a motoring offence or a breach of health and safety legislation that causes personal injury to someone else they could be forced to pay reparations over and above ACC compensation limits,” says Insurance Council chief executive Tim Grafton.

ACC currently limits loss of income payments to 80 per cent of their income and no more than $1818 a week.

“This means that if you caused the injury to someone, the Courts could require higher payments to be made by the guilty party,” says Tim.

“This creates a double standard in treatment where those suffering an injury as a result of a motoring offence, for example, have the potential to gain greater compensation than those suffering the same injury when no offence was involved or no-one was prosecuted.”

Exposure to higher reparations orders can extend to many other areas, such as health and safety breaches in the workplace, breaching the Dog Control Act or many other instances where an offence results in bodily injury.

“It also opens up compensation to overseas visitors. So, you wouldn’t want to cause a crash that badly injures a tour coach of well-heeled foreign tourists for example,” adds Tim.

“Insurance companies will be closely monitoring developments and some may consider changes to policies to cover the exposures from this Act.”

http://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/89131-compensation-law-questioned.html

The new law means the Courts can impose a higher reparation for someone injured in a motoring offence.
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December 14, 2014 6:50pm
nasska

V2

It means that we’re going back to the equivalent of the old third party personal insurance that was part of the rego fee PLUS a hit for ACC.

Unless you’re dirt poor & own nothing you will pay twice for the same thing.
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December 14, 2014 6:55pm
dime

cricko – lucky ya couldnt find anywhere to take that bet!

stipe is way better than i thought.
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December 14, 2014 6:58pm
Shawn Herles

This is where you leap into gallopingly mental territory Shawn.

It’s not the source which establishes veracity it’s the information in the piece itself.

No Reid, in the case of Makow and similar folks, the source does determine it’s veracity. That may be inconvenient to you, but it’s the truth.

The problem is that you use whackjob sources, from people who believe aliens run the world, to ,on occasion, white supremacists, and that fact does come into play when critiquing the actual information.

So long as you keep doing that I and others will keep calling you on it, and whining about that is pointless.
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December 14, 2014 6:59pm
cricko

Youse remember Con ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teitdS2Dksk

Turn up the volume and see what a good immigrant looks like.

Now we have muslims.
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December 14, 2014 7:01pm
Reid

No Reid, in the case of Makow and similar folks, the source does determine it’s veracity. That may be inconvenient to you, but it’s the truth.

It’s not inconvenient, it’s illogical and it’s not how people establish the veracity of information.

Another example. A university you don’t approve of release a study that would solve world hunger. But cos it’s a source you don’t approve of, you won’t even read it.

What sort of fucked in the head thinking is that?

So long as you keep doing that I and others will keep calling you on it, and whining about that is pointless.

I’m not whining, I’m explaining to everyone here what a moron you are. I’m quite enjoying it because you’re the one in the hole and you’re continuing to dig. It’s quite funny, really.
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December 14, 2014 7:03pm
cricko

dime

Oh shit, would I have lost ?
I recorded it to watch later tonite.

You should have put ‘Spoiler’ on your 6.58 effort.
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December 14, 2014 7:04pm
mikenmild

I just wish Reid would answer my question so I can know whether to avoid the new Hobbit movie if it contains satanic images.
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December 14, 2014 7:04pm
Shawn Herles

It’s not inconvenient, it’s illogical and it’s not how people establish the veracity of information.

Yes it is, all the time.

“Mommy, that man says if I come with him he will give me candy.”

“No sweetheart, that man has a bad history.”

THE SOURCE DOES COUNT!

I’m explaining to everyone here what a moron you are.

And it’s coming from a guy who thinks he can find satanic messages in Disney films. See, the source does count! 🙂

And yes, you are whining like a petulant child.
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December 14, 2014 7:08pm
SGA

@Shawn Herles

The Church of Satan are not actual satanists. Their a rather silly bunch of Randian Liberatrians who like to dress up as satanists for shock value, but nothing they do has any reality to it, let alone any real spiritual power.

Spoilsport. All that time spent reading Dennis Wheatley and watching Rosemary’s Baby for nothing 🙂
From memory, Crowley (the demon) has a similar view of satanists in the book “Good Omens”.
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December 14, 2014 7:13pm
Shawn Herles

From memory, Crowley (the demon) has a similar view of satanists in the book “Good Omens”.

He does indeed SGA. I had a load of Crowley’s books at one time, but sold them a few years back.
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December 14, 2014 7:17pm
Reid

Let me give you another example Shawn. There was a recent series on Sky History Channel called East to West which explicates the Muslim contribution to Western science and Western civilisation.

I assume you hallucinate Sky is acceptable. But what if that very same series was on say, Al Jazeera?

You wouldn’t watch it, would you. And furthermore, if anyone dared to post approvingly of it here, you’d accuse them of approving of terrorism, wouldn’t you.

That’s your problem Shawn. You need to learn, how to think.
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December 14, 2014 7:24pm
cricko

now there is a joke !

mikenmild @ 7.04 the prat
who has never ever even attempted to answer any question on this site for as long as his arse
pointed to the ground now craves an answer from Reid @ 7.04

Scuse my French but, fuck off mikenmild.
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December 14, 2014 7:26pm
Shawn Herles

You wouldn’t watch it, would you.

Yes I would. I have watched some very good programs on Al Jazeera.

Try again Reid.
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December 14, 2014 7:27pm
publicwatchdog

Ok folks of the Wellington region – do YOU want to help stop the proposed Wellington ‘$upercity’?

Because the Auckland ‘$upercity for the 1%’ has been an absolute DISASTER for the overwhelming majority of citizens and ratepayers of the Auckland region – rates and Council debt have sky-rocketed, while services, democracy and transparency have plummeted.

Seven former Councils have now been replaced with seven ‘Council Controlled Organisations’ (CCOs – otherwise known as CA$H COW ORGANISATIONS), each controlled by unelected boards of business people, each with their own CEO, offices, office staff, consultants and contractors …

So much for the much-vaunted ‘economies of scale’.

Where’s the democracy, transparency and accountability under this ‘CORPORATE Controlled Organisation?

Bigger contracts for fewer but bigger private contractors is what these ‘$upercities’ are really all about.

It’s a MASSIVE dose of ‘commercialise – corporatise – PRIVATISE Rogernomic$ – now at local government level.

First CCOs – then PPPs?

But – you folks from the Wellington regional area CAN stop this!

You can petition for a binding POLL, to which you can then say NO!

Here is the LAW – which spells out your lawful right to a POLL on this proposed amalgamation:

(1)If a final proposal has been issued under clause 21(1)(a) or (b), affected electors may demand a poll to determine whether or not the final proposal is to proceed and become a reorganisation scheme.

(2)A poll may be demanded under subclause (1) by a petition of 10% or more of affected electors enrolled in the district of a territorial authority.

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2002/0084/latest/DLM4927119.htmlhttp://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2002/0084/latest/DLM4927119.html

24 Petition to require poll

(1)If a final proposal has been issued under clause 21(1)(a) or (b), affected electors may demand a poll to determine whether or not the final proposal is to proceed and become a reorganisation scheme.

(2)A poll may be demanded under subclause (1) by a petition of 10% or more of affected electors enrolled in the district of a territorial authority.

(3)A petition must be in the prescribed form (if any).

(4)The Commission must, in the public notice of a final proposal under clause 22(1)(a), advise electors of—

(a)the opportunity to demand a poll under this clause; and

(b)the requirements relating to the submission of a petition under this clause; and

(c)the date by which a petition must be received by the Commission, being the close of the 60th working day after the first publication of the notice under clause 22(1)(a); and

(d)the affected area.

(5)Each person who signs a petition must state, against his or her signature, the person’s name and address in sufficient detail to enable the person to be identified as an elector.

(6)The chief executive officer of the Commission must send a copy of the petition to the electoral officer of each affected territorial authority, and the electoral officers must advise the Commission, within the time frame required by the Commission, of—

(a)the number of affected electors enrolled as eligible to vote in the district of the territorial authority; and

(b)the number of those electors who have signed the petition; and

(c)whether the number of those electors who signed the petition constitute 10% or more of the affected electors enrolled in the district of the territorial authority.

(7)To avoid doubt, a petition may not be started before a final proposal is issued.

(8)For the purposes of this subpart, petition means 1 or more petitions submitted to the Commission that relate to the same final proposal.

___________________________________________________________________________________________

Has the Local Government Commission complied with their following statutory requirements and advised Wellington regional citizen and ratepayer ‘electors’ of your LAWFUL right to demand such a poll?

“(4)The Commission must, in the public notice of a final proposal under clause 22(1)(a), advise electors of—

(a)the opportunity to demand a poll under this clause; and

(b)the requirements relating to the submission of a petition under this clause; and

(c)the date by which a petition must be received by the Commission, being the close of the 60th working day after the first publication of the notice under clause 22(1)(a); and

(d)the affected area.”
__________________________________________________________________________________________________

The following press release from the Local Government Commission on 4 December 2014 says no such thing:

http://www.lgc.govt.nz/commission-news-and-contact-information/media-statements-and-speeches/a-greater-wellington-council-proposed-for-region/

Home » Commission news & contact information »Media statements and speeches » A Greater Wellington Council proposed for region

A Greater Wellington Council proposed for region
Date: 04 Dec 2014

The most significant reforms of a generation are proposed for councils in the Wellington region, under a draft proposal released by the Local Government Commission. Public submissions are now being sought, with a deadline of 2 March 2015.

A new unitary authority, the Greater Wellington Council, is proposed. It would take over the functions of the existing nine councils: Masterton District Council; Carterton District Council; South Wairarapa District Council; Upper Hutt City Council; Hutt City Council; Wellington City Council; Porirua City Council; Kapiti Coast District Council, and the Greater Wellington Regional Council.

….”

Have the Local Government Commission complied with these above-mentioned statutory requirements anywhere else?

Do any Wellington Kiwibloggers know?

Kind regards

Penny Bright

(Who opposed the Auckland ‘$upercity’ literally from Day One).

http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz
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December 14, 2014 7:28pm
Shawn Herles

TOO LONG PENNY!!!!!!!
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December 14, 2014 7:30pm
nasska

https://www.dropbox.com/s/v4s688zmhxh6als/Cuckoo%201%207%2014.jpg?dl=0
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December 14, 2014 7:31pm
cricko

Ok Shawn @ 7.20

maybe Penny was too long.

Point is…..

Do you take exception with any thing she said ?

If so, what ?

If not…do you have a point ?

What is your point then ?

Put up or shut up.
as they say.
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December 14, 2014 7:37pm
Shawn Herles

O hell I didn’t actually read it cricko, I almost never do read Penny’s posts.

If not…do you have a point ?

Yes, it was too long, and the length of her posts annoys most people here.

I would have though my point was fairly obvious when I said “TOO LONG PENNY”
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December 14, 2014 7:39pm
cricko

Silly Shawn.

Why would a drong take the effort to remark upon a post that that fukin drong admits that he hasn’t even read ?

Why would that drong even bother.

‘Kin idiot drong.
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December 14, 2014 7:44pm
Odakyu-sen

Penny,

You were doing so well at 6:38 p.m. with that short, pithy little number, and look! You got 6 upticks and only 1 downtick! (Congrats!)

I implore you not to slide backwards (as you did 50 minutes later at 7:28 p.m.).

You are showing signs of progress. You can do it!
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December 14, 2014 7:45pm
Shawn Herles

Hey, if you want to wade through every one of Penny’s posts be my guest.
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December 14, 2014 7:46pm
Sofia

Penny, I can appreciate that in answering so much fed-back, you could confuse some responses, or occasionally you make an assumption without backing it up with FACTS,.
However you will not be able to quote any time on Kiwiblog I have ever said I do not read what you have to say.

And therefore your suggestion that “If you don’t practice what you preach dear – you’re full of sh*t …” is not really accurate either.

[BTW, try writing SHIT instead of whimping out with sh*t. All-knowing God is aware of what you intend with the asterisk, so you may still get yourself hit by fucking lightning.
Just write ‘shit’ as it should be – you’ll feel better, the truth shall set you free.
Likewise the “Meant of course, in a caring way” is krap, as is “dear” somewhat disingenuous when I am a decade older than you, dear]

Cricko’s advice is good – you should consider it

And when you cut and paste, do try to paste once please, not twice or three times.
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December 14, 2014 7:46pm
Kea

It is amusing to watch the moronic pretender Shorn attack other peoples sources as lacking credibility,( to avoid confronting the argument presented.)

Just click on its name and you will find… “Does God Love Extraterrestrials?”

http://www.theimaginativeconservative.org/2014/12/does-god-love-extraterrestrials.html

😆
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December 14, 2014 7:47pm
Shawn Herles

I did enjoy Penny putting Red in his place yesterday. That was priceless! 🙂
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December 14, 2014 7:50pm
wiseowl

Now your on to it Penny.
Further perusal of the LG Legislation will show that everything is stacked against the voters of a District challenging the proposal.

But you are right insofar as ratepayers need to stand up to this blatant forcing of amalgamation by a stacked Local Government Commission.
Meanwhile National stand back .Nothing to do with us.
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December 14, 2014 7:54pm
mikenmild

‘Meanwhile National stand back .Nothing to do with us.’
Not quite. The PM was quite encouraging and DPF is shilling for it.
Vive le Hutt libre!
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December 14, 2014 7:59pm
cha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBuhEHVB8L8
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December 14, 2014 8:10pm
big bruv

So, are the NZ national rugby team the “worlds greatest sporting team” as they often claim?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laureus_World_Sports_Award_for_Team_of_the_Year

Errrr…nope.
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December 14, 2014 8:20pm
dad4justice

“So, are the NZ national rugby team the “worlds greatest sporting team” as they often claim?”

Is that question for Longknives or nasska?? Just asking if the schizophrenia is contagious from the disgraceful antics you highlighted at Panda Sports?

Edit – what kind of sick individual has two dozen identities on a sports forum?
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December 14, 2014 8:27pm
big bruv

Still no Xmas card from Richie then D4J?
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December 14, 2014 8:42pm
nasska

It’s supposed to be a surprise BB…..Richie’s taking Dad for a joy ride as a Xmas present. 🙂
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December 14, 2014 8:47pm
big bruv

Oh shit!

Sorry Nasska. A car ride in the sponsored Ford or in one of those glider things?

Come to think of it, two men in a Glider does sound a bit gay does it not?
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December 14, 2014 8:58pm
dad4justice

Please take the test bigot blouse;

http://psychcentral.com/quizzes/schizophrenia.htm
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December 14, 2014 9:02pm
nasska

….” two men in a Glider does sound a bit gay does it not?”…..

I understand that they will be riding the thermals above Christchurch BB…..the normal definitions of “gay” nor those of “bestiality” or “incest” don’t really apply around those parts. 🙂
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December 14, 2014 9:06pm
big bruv

“I understand that they will be riding the thermals above Christchurch BB”

Right!…so two men floating around, in a very confined space, looking for warm breezes to blow up their backsides.

Sorry nasska, but that is about as gay as it gets.
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December 14, 2014 9:10pm
nasska

Now you put it that way it doesn’t look too good BB. 🙁
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December 14, 2014 9:12pm
Nostradamus

Big Bruv:

Come to think of it, two men in a Glider does sound a bit gay does it not?

What are you suggesting might happen – a sky high ‘lap dance’?
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December 14, 2014 9:12pm
Rowan

Dad
Aren’t pocketknives and Narsekisser all just aliases of Bigot Blouse anyway? The clown is so desperate for attention that it has created multiple identities so it can agree with itself, how lame is that!
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December 14, 2014 9:13pm
big bruv

Oh come on!!!

All of a sudden Rowan turns up (just in the nick of time) to help out his BBF D4J.
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December 14, 2014 9:16pm
mikenmild

big bruv must be gutted about the All Blacks being nominated so often for those Laureus World Sports Awards. Five times since 2006! Thanks for drawing my attention to how often they are recognised for their international excellence, big bruv.
Oh, and now we are back to the multiple identity accusations. Boring.
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December 14, 2014 9:17pm
big bruv

Nos.

Have you seen how cramped it is inside one of those glider things?. I suspect that D4J will already be sitting in Richie’s lap.

Not that D4J would moan about it.
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December 14, 2014 9:17pm
Nostradamus

Rowan:

Do you have any thoughts on the Parole Board’s decision to release the Beast of Blenheim, otherwise known as convicted sex offender Stewart Murray Wilson, in March 2015?

The full reasons for the decision will apparently be released tomorrow.

Personally, I can’t understand the Parole Board’s decision, given that Wilson breached his parole conditions last year:

The serial sex offender known as the ‘Beast of Blenheim’ has taken the unusual step of giving a personal letter to the media after being sentenced to six months imprisonment for breaching parole last year.

Stuart Murray Wilson was parolled under strict conditions in 2012 to live in a house in Whanganui Prison grounds but was recalled to the jail after making a phone call last year to a woman he was instructed not to contact.

Wilson changed his plea to guilty shortly before the case was due to go to trial and a second charge of breaching parole was withdrawn in the Whanganui District Court this morning.

Before being taken from the court to jail, Wilson left a document on the media bench, which was addressed to the court. In the document, he claimed his guilty plea was made with prejudice and claimed his parole breach was a victimless offence.

Outside court, Wilson’s lawyer said he would appeal the six month sentence.

Not the sign of a reformed criminal, I would have thought?
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December 14, 2014 9:17pm
dad4justice

bigot blouse has multiple identities but the local trap door spider turns a blind eye to it? Another personality of the deranged and unhinged bb. Please get help you sick limp coward, at least read about yourself

http://www.medicinenet.com/dissociative_identity_disorder/article.htm
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December 14, 2014 9:17pm
Nostradamus

D4J:

Another personality of the deranged and unhinged bb.

Good grief – are you suggesting that I’m Big Bruv?
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December 14, 2014 9:23pm
big bruv

Nos

I think he’s onto us.
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December 14, 2014 9:28pm
nasska

That’s one scalp for tonight Dad. Tell us…..how did you see through that clever charade. 🙂
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December 14, 2014 9:32pm
praxmeyer1967

Penny can you please let everyone know how many cats you have?
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December 14, 2014 9:33pm
publicwatchdog

Ok Sofia – how’s this?

Sofia – YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT.

I know ‘brain fades’ are VERY fashionable, and affect those at the HIGHEST levels, including our Part-Time Prime Minister John Key, but hadn’t realised that you too, had succumbed?

Just YESTERDAY – this was the advice YOU gave to Akaroa and Paulus, on Kiwiblog – for the world to see:

”
Best to scroll on by quietly and ignore. 🙂

Commenting, as you should see in reaction to this, is usually construed as evidence of effectiveness – “I must be doing something right” – so avoid that.

Do not feed the Watchdog.”

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Sofia (881 comments) says:
December 13th, 2014 at 3:16 pm
Akaroa and Paulus, the person you refer to is unwell

Motivated by narcism and self-aggrandizement, she usually writes in a series of bumper sticker expressions cut and pasted together, and can symptomatically sometimes not make sense, like day before yesterday, only six minutes apart –

1:42 pm
 … my efforts, which have included putting my freehold home on the line, to help protect the rights of ALL Auckland citizens and ratepayers to ‘open, transparent and democratically accountable’ local government?

1:36
 My home won’t be sold until I’m good and ready, and it’s MY choice to do – so it’s condition isn’t really any concern to any Kiwiblogger?

Repetition is common.
See publicwatchdog 9:10 am, above

If you have read that you need read no more. That is about it –
ALL of it.

Best to scroll on by quietly and ignore. 🙂

Commenting, as you should see in reaction to this, is usually construed as evidence of effectiveness – “I must be doing something right” – so avoid that.

Do not feed the Watchdog.
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Then, proving that your unadulterated HYPOCRISY is only exceeded by your poetic talent – you posted THIS – to my reply:

Sofia (881 comments) says:
December 13th, 2014 at 4:04 pm
Akaroa and Paulus – see?

“Old Ms. B! Riddle-me-ree!
 Hitty Pitty within the wall, 
Hitty Pitty without the wall; 
If you touch Hitty Pitty, 
Hitty Pitty will bite you!”

Do not feed the Watchdog! 🙂

________________________________________________________________________________________________

Yet – NOW you say:

Sofia (881 comments) says:
December 14th, 2014 at 7:46 pm

Penny, I can appreciate that in answering so much fed-back, you could confuse some responses, or occasionally you make an assumption without backing it up with FACTS,.

However you will not be able to quote any time on Kiwiblog I have ever said I do not read what you have to say.

And therefore your suggestion that “If you don’t practice what you preach dear – you’re full of sh*t …” is not really accurate either. …. ”

DUH?

How does this comment fit with THIS comment you made yesterday Sofia?

“Best to scroll on by quietly and ignore. 🙂 ”

Yep Sofia – you are TRULY – FULL OF SHIT.

‘Cruising for another bruising’ dear?

You start it – I’ll finish it ……

(Meant of course, in a caring way, as you are with politically unwell hypocrites, or those who may simply be suffering from chronic ‘plot loss’? )

Kind regards,

Penny Bright
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December 14, 2014 9:33pm
dad4justice

Trap door, narsekisser and bigot blouse =

http://www.helpyourselftherapy.com/topics/selftalk.html
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December 14, 2014 9:34pm
mikenmild

Don’t tell cricko about your cats, Penny. He is just starting to admire you.
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December 14, 2014 9:35pm
nasska

There hasn’t been a reliable muster for a couple of years now praxmeyer but the collection agency took this photo from inside her lounge last week: 🙂

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uqbawryckqd7c7f/Waterwoman%205.jpg?dl=0
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December 14, 2014 9:37pm
Inandout

Viking2: Most, if not all, comprehensive auto insurance covers have public liability built in for these types of eventualities. Uninsured drivers, as usual, don’t pay because they either aren’t traceable or are broke.
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December 14, 2014 9:37pm
Nostradamus

D4J:

Try to keep up – Rowan passed on the “trap door” label to Michael – and, from what I can see, Michael does have a tendency to poke the “Bain stick” in Rowan’s direction.

But seriously, D4J, if I were you I wouldn’t be so quick to suggest that others take up self-help remedies and psycho-babble wackie-doo-doos.
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December 14, 2014 9:37pm
Rowan

Nostra
Yes a strange decision to let him out, presumably he will be monitored electronically and in one of the houses beside Wanganui prison like last time. Let’s see how long he manages to stay out this time.
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December 14, 2014 9:44pm
Rowan

Time for some more meds Bigot Blouse, hearing voices in your head is a sure sign that you are losing it
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December 14, 2014 9:48pm
stigie

Reddys been rather quiet today, hope hes ok !~
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December 14, 2014 9:48pm
Nostradamus

Rowan:

Yes a strange decision to let him out, presumably he will be monitored electronically and in one of the houses beside Wanganui prison like last time. Let’s see how long he manages to stay out this time.

I agree completely.

I note this extract from Wikipedia:

Wilson was recalled on an interim basis in February 2013 after Corrections claimed he had made a phone call to a woman he had been restricted from contacting because she was a relative of one of his victims. When he appeared before the Board in April 2013, the Board made the recall ‘indefinite’. The Board said he still posed an undue risk to the community after it emerged that he talked with the woman about leaving the country and said he “remained deceptive in his behaviour and selective in what he chose to disclose to his probation team”.[24] This means that Wilson is likely to remain in prison until the end of his sentence in September 2015, after which release conditions can be imposed for a maximum of six months. The Corrections Department is seeking an extended supervision order against Wilson for a term of 10 years, starting when his parole or release conditions come to an end.[25]

I wonder if the Parole Board has set a trap for Wilson – let him out in March 2015 and see if he breaches his parole conditions during the six-month period up to September 2015 – if so, back inside prison he goes!

Anyway, as I say, it’ll be interesting to read the Parole Board’s full decision when it’s released tomorrow.
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December 14, 2014 9:51pm
publicwatchdog

Anyone know WHO exactly appointed the current Local Government Commissioners?

As I understand it – decisions relating to Corporate (sorry) Council Controlled Organisations (CCOs) will be made by these Local Government Commissioners?

BEWARE! CCO’s are the mechanism for this corporate takeover – as has been the case in Auckland.

In terms of the ‘advice’ or ‘recommendations’ upon which these Local Government Commissioners were relying for their ‘Wellington Supercity’ amalgamation proposal – I haven’t yet had a chance to check them out – but – somewhere will be the BIG business push, which will allow the greater Wellington region to be run ‘like a business, by business – FOR business’ .

Follow the dollar …..

Just as has happened in Auckland, when the John Key led National/ACT Government forced this SUPER RIPOFF upon us, by railroading through the House legislation which trumped citizens and ratepayers’ LAWFUL right to a binding POLL of electors on this DISASTROUS ‘amalgamation.

You have an opportunity to STOP this Wellington ‘$upercity’ folks!

SEIZE THE MOMENT!

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2002/0084/latest/DLM4927119.htmlhttp://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2002/0084/latest/DLM4927119.html

24 Petition to require poll

(1)If a final proposal has been issued under clause 21(1)(a) or (b), affected electors may demand a poll to determine whether or not the final proposal is to proceed and become a reorganisation scheme.

(2)A poll may be demanded under subclause (1) by a petition of 10% or more of affected electors enrolled in the district of a territorial authority.

(3)A petition must be in the prescribed form (if any).

(4)The Commission must, in the public notice of a final proposal under clause 22(1)(a), advise electors of—

(a)the opportunity to demand a poll under this clause; and

(b)the requirements relating to the submission of a petition under this clause; and

(c)the date by which a petition must be received by the Commission, being the close of the 60th working day after the first publication of the notice under clause 22(1)(a); and

(d)the affected area.
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Who else is informing you of your LAWFUL rights in this matter?

Penny Bright
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December 14, 2014 9:56pm
stigie

You could have posted that tomorrow Penny, most people have gone to bed for a root !~
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December 14, 2014 10:00pm
publicwatchdog

I now have two cats – thank you for asking.

Plus an elephant and a giraffe ( … just kidding 😉

Kind regards

Penny Bright
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December 14, 2014 10:01pm
Nostradamus

Stigie:

You could have posted that tomorrow Penny, most people have gone to bed for a root !~

Tough decision: root in bed, or the Kiwiblog equivalent of a root canal procedure with Penny (by feeding her NPD).
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December 14, 2014 10:06pm
stigie

I am extremely flexible there Nostra !~
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December 14, 2014 10:08pm
Rowan

Nosty
We do get some odd decisions from the parole board, remember they decided that Graeme Burton was safe to be let out on parole a number of years ago, I don’t think that will be happening again anytime soon!
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December 14, 2014 10:09pm
Sofia

Penny
Akaroa and Paulus were perplexed at your approach here – insult readers, then dump screeds of repetitive material that you think they will read and be persuaded to agree with.
That I suggested “scroll on by” as a solution, is not unknown around here, but doesn’t indicate I do not read your comments myself.

That apparently your childhood was befert of Beatrix Potter’s TALE OF SQUIRREL NUTKIN is indeed a disappointment.
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December 14, 2014 10:44pm
Sofia

The PROJECT GUTENBERG ebook version of TALE OF SQUIRREL NUTKIN is here
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/14872/14872-h/14872-h.htm

“Old Brown”, name coincident, is obviously Auckland Council.
Although I may be full of shit, I would wish, Penny, that you may loose less than half your tail.
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