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December 11, 2014 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 11 December 2014

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Shawn Herles

“Of course Shawn. It’s called a mind. Of course it doesn’t work if you don’t open it.”

No, sorry Reid but that is not a valid answer. If there is no independent verification, or at least some independent evidence, then just saying “open your mind” is meaningless, and being suspicious of claims that don’t look credible is not an example of a closed mind.
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December 11, 2014 9:49pm
Rowan

Dad
I’m pretty sure that Shawn is not one of blouses multiple identities and I also doubt that Gripp is, the only ones I can say the deranged creep has are pocketknives and Narsekisser.
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December 11, 2014 9:50pm
Shawn Herles

Thanks for the link Lucia. It seems pretty clear to me that you are right, and I am happy to apologize to Red for repeating the allegation.
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December 11, 2014 9:52pm
Rowan

Thank you Lucia
Looking at your links is further proof that the “allegation” was nothing more than another unsubstantiated lie from the lying POS troll Bigot Blouse, he is in serious need of mental help!
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December 11, 2014 9:59pm
Lucia Maria

Reid,

Lucia if you read it properly using English you’ll find the article isn’t about reptilians it’s about the law.

Yes, I did see that it was about the law. However, the piece does drop the bizarre assertion that there are such creatures as reptilians, and that they are involved. To prove that the article mentioned reptilians, I blockquoted the appropriate paragraphs and highlighted the words.

But people like you, who seem to hallucinate you already know what something says before you even acquaint yourself with it, often do that. One wonders why.

I am acquainted with these arguments. I just don’t believe in reptilians.

The teapot tapes and the ensuing hue and cry meme was merely one example of making something into something else. But that of course was done by an ignorant, highly biased naive media trying to prove something and definitely not to inform. So what’s your excuse?

I scan untrustworthy articles for potential issues. If there is one, I then rate the issue for severity. Mentioning the word reptilian (as if they really exist and control the world) is right up there on the scale of seriousness for treating the whole article as complete fiction. I’m not going to then go back and read the article more deeply, because stuff that’s made up like that is just not interesting to me. Even as fiction it’s not that interesting.
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December 11, 2014 10:00pm
Sponge

Red, BB, Shawn – Why not take this to TrueBlue.

If your discussions are as worthy as you all seem to think the ratings would skyrocket! If (as I suspect but am happy to be proven wrong) no-one give two flying fucks about your infantile and pathetic bickering then at least we don’t have to see it.

For all of that sometimes any one of you make good and interesting points but when you abuse each other as you have in this thread it is neither entertaining nor interesting.

It’s not my blog of course but as a reader I wish you would all try to make a positive rather than negative contribution.
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December 11, 2014 10:04pm
Griff

Pete Mod Guest • 2 years ago
http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2013/06/redbaiter-would-have-been-redfaced-if-this-feature-was-available-back-then/
The headline on this post is just meant to be funny, and not meant to start a redbaiter bash-a-thon. I apologise to redbaiter for having started this mess!

However, you asked for ‘evidence’.

There were only two credible answers:

1) he did it himself
2) he has a group of people following him wherever he goes who provide the majority of upvotes on his comments within a very short period of the comment being posted

Answer 1 is simply more plausible.

One of the most upvoted commenters is Travis Poulson. And even when he chucks out one of his pearlers it takes several hours to accumulate the upvotes. In comparison, redbaiter would collect his within the first 15-30 minutes, with a few stragglers following over the rest of the day.

This sort of “upvote pattern” is exclusive to redbaiter. Nobody else enjoys that sort of instant approbation from the readers. So, unless he has a couple of dozen groupies hanging on every utterance the moment he shares it, I truly believe his popularity, such as it is, is largely of his own creation.

Sidey • 2 years ago

This character Redbaiter still occasionally refers to his rate of upvotes here as some form of validation of his wackadoodle verbal vomits. I guess he was his his own best fan then?

TomTom Sidey • 2 years ago

He was a just a wee bit mental, wasn’t he?

Pete Mod TomTom • 2 years ago

We all are mate. He is just better at it.
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December 11, 2014 10:05pm
Reid

If there is no independent verification, or at least some independent evidence, then just saying “open your mind” is meaningless, and being suspicious of claims that don’t look credible is not an example of a closed mind.

But there is, in law books all over the world.

But you need to open them first.

Case closed, I’m afraid Shawn.

I’m not surprised, I’m not even disappointed, for your reaction is expected.

But I do feel sorry for you. Just as I do for the South East Asian family who live on the rubbish dump, little knowing there is an easy way out, yet resisting efforts from those all around them, to move them from their wretched, if to them comfortable, state of mind.

You don’t need BTW to explain there’s no need to feel sorry for you, I already know you think that. The fact you are comfortable in your crapulence, is why I am.
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December 11, 2014 10:05pm
Lucia Maria

Shawn, Rowan,

Good to see that you’ve read my comment from last year where I prove that Redbaiter did not uptick his own comments.

Griff,

Why haven’t you read my comment? It links directly to some of Redbaiter’s last comments on WhaleOil where you can see for yourself that he obviously did not uptick himself. Just look at the data, no Petal’s accusations.

Reid,

If your mind is too open, stuff falls out.
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December 11, 2014 10:20pm
SGA

Lucia Maria at 10:20 pm

If your mind is too open, stuff falls out.

LOL – true of mouths too 🙂
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December 11, 2014 10:34pm
Shawn Herles

“But there is, in law books all over the world.

But you need to open them first.

Case closed, I’m afraid Shawn.”

Reid law books say nothing about reptilian aliens controlling the world. Your article did, so that is cased closed on the credibility front I’m afraid.

And unless you have a law degree, I’m no more inclined to take you seriously on that front than I was UglyTruth.
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December 11, 2014 10:49pm
publicwatchdog

YAWN …… sorry folks, but there’s only so much BORING boychild bitchy behaviour that can be tolerated by sensible, ordinary folk, and I for one have had enough for tonight.

Apologise is all I can do for not being Mother Theresa – but there you go.

More to the point – there I go.

Sweet dreams Kiwibloggers 🙂

Looking forward to you playing more nicely in the Kiwiblog sandpit tomorrow?

As you know – having the surname Bright means I’m genetically hard wired to have a positive and cheerful disposition 😉

Good night Kiwiblog kiddie winks ….

Penny Bright
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December 11, 2014 11:00pm
Rowan

Shawn/Pharisee @ 9.52
Maybe you shouldn’t be quite so quick to accept without question the unfounded allegations of the deluded nutcase Bigot Blouse, go on email Farrar if you need further proof!
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December 11, 2014 11:04pm
Sponge

Jesus – Winnie is pissed.
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December 11, 2014 11:11pm
Shawn Herles

Rowan/D4J

You are sick in mind and heart.

Get help. Seriously.
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December 12, 2014 1:11am
Griff

sorry Lucie you will back red no matter what we have seen it before.
loyalty is a honorable thing but IMHO it is misplaced in reds case
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December 12, 2014 6:26am
Manolo

Eco-terrorism at its worst: http://io9.com/this-greenpeace-stunt-may-have-irreparably-damaged-peru-1669728616

The Peruvian government is planning to file criminal charges against Greenpeace activists who may have permanently scarred the Nazca Lines World Heritage Site during a publicity stunt.
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December 12, 2014 7:33am
deadrightkev

“I grew up in a state house. Its imperative that I approve all treaty settlements on my watch, whether historical facts behind them are untrue is a side issue”.
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