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If you follow the link then click on donations , it should show there.
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November 1, 2014 4:17pm
Johnboy

If only Folk had taken up my call to givealittle for Penny!

She only needed $33,000…..Mean spirited bastards! 🙂
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November 1, 2014 4:19pm
waikatogirl

Lucia
Try squatting without touching the seat! ;). You are right about the anxiety though, I hate using public toilets 🙁
For healthy urinary tract eat dried cranberries. 🙂 🙂 🙂
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November 1, 2014 4:20pm
Harriet

“….Does it really matter if our kids in the future decide to shit together?…”

LOL……why would they decide to do that? A shared experiance? fuck me.

Women should be allowed privacy from males in public to relieve themselves.[and in private too]
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November 1, 2014 4:25pm
Johnboy

Younger women generally stand on the seat before squatting. You old crones would of course find this terribly hard on the leg muscles of course. 🙂
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November 1, 2014 4:26pm
Rachael Membery

Not me, it is not money I would ‘give a little’ of to Hager. I would give him some of the love of Dotcom.
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November 1, 2014 4:31pm
Johnboy

This does of course bring to mind a particularly bad occasion when the wife and I were trapped in the scrub, in a tent, when it was pissing with rain and we had no dry clothes left.

She needed a crap so she did so on the spade I had brought to dig shitholes what I held in the appropriate area. I deposited the said article later in a hole I dug just before the chopper turned up.

Needs must as situations require! 🙂
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November 1, 2014 4:34pm
Johnboy

You learn about trust when you get to crap on a spade, in a tent, during a thunderstorm, whats being held by a bloke you are not quite certain of! 🙂
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November 1, 2014 4:40pm
Harriet

“….She only needed $33,000…..Mean spirited bastards!…”

Yeah…..shows how much those on the left really care about ‘home affordibility’ and ‘wealth disparity’. JB.

And ‘poverty’:

Hager got twice as much in donations from lefties than Penny needed – and his home wasn’t even under threat.

St Penny is the martyr for the homeless cause. What a loser. 😎
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November 1, 2014 4:41pm
Johnboy

It’s so awful Harriet that the leftys haven’t risen off their poses and donated to Penny?

Asshole the lot of them. A brick wall at the Lubyanka would be too fucking good for any of them! 🙂
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November 1, 2014 4:45pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@ Johnboy…. I’m not too shocked about the spade incident.. but I decided against mountaineering when a colleague told me that he only had his food bowl to evacuate into when stuck in a snow cave for a week.
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November 1, 2014 4:53pm
Johnboy

Recycling is apparently what we should all be doing Maggy. 🙂
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November 1, 2014 4:56pm
Johnboy

If you travelled to Mars you would have to drink your recycled piss and eat your recycled shit.

Makes Soylent Green look quite palatable really! 🙂
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November 1, 2014 4:58pm
waikatogirl

Harriet
Sounds like those Californian students could do with a week in rainy NZ bush with just a shovel in a tent to shit on. That would stop their fixation on shitting with each other. 🙂

JB, I’m sure your woolly girlfriends would be used to you having a crap out the back of the farm when you get caught short. All good for the farm soil 🙂
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November 1, 2014 5:11pm
Johnboy

But this was Flossie I am speaking of waikatogirl!!!!!

My only true human ewe! 🙂
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November 1, 2014 5:15pm
waikatogirl

Yes, JB, it was obvious that you only take your best girl away for a wet week in a tent, you old romantic!

You don’t want all that wet wool smell your other girlfriends would be afflicted with. 😉
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November 1, 2014 5:22pm
Griff

10 now Oberführer redbaiter. Feel the love and respect matey?
Mind you half the posts since do come under the heading TMI.
to much information.
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November 1, 2014 5:29pm
Johnboy

I’m so shattered that you should think I would pay for a helicopter ride for a bloody sheep waikatogirl!

While I may be keen on the little lanolin infused creatures I’m also Scottish! 🙂
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November 1, 2014 5:39pm
Nookin

Viking
Any lawyer who goes to court with a case lacking in merit will get ticked off by the court and risks having costs awarded against him/her. I have seen counsel reminded of their duty to court when arguing a point with no merit. On top of that there is always the possibility of disciplinary action.
Sure, everyone is entitled to their day in court but within reason. Penny has been in some cases worth arguing. Defending an action for rates arrears is not one of them. She has been told that before. If you want to see an abuse of court time, look at the Supreme Court decisions for 2014. In particular, look for the name of Penny’s mate Seimer.
Some lawyers are irrepressible litigators. They are the exceptions. Some are incompetent. They too are exceptions. Most lawyers give very forthright advice on a hopeless case.
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November 1, 2014 6:29pm
waikatogirl

Your wife deserved to be flown in style after your romantic wet tenting week in the bush. A perfect end to your wedding anniversary? My husband never takes me anywhere sexy 😉

A helicopter for a sheep would have been fun… Flying ewe :).
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November 1, 2014 6:40pm
holysheet

Johnboy, your story about crapping on a spade reminds me of a tale our tutor at Lincoln college told us one day.

He and his boss were out in the bush on a camping trip. His boss always went away each morning to have a crap in the bush. One morning he followed him with a spade, While the boss was having a crap, he used the spade to catch the doings and took it away. After straining to do the business, he looks around to see what he had produced. Imagine his surprise when he saw nothing for his efforts.
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November 1, 2014 6:42pm
Lucia Maria

Waikatogirl at 4:20pm,

It’s not a situation that I’ve had to deal with personally (which is the shared gender bathroom with multiple stalls), but I can imagine that for me it would also be stressful, but much more so if I were still a teenager or younger woman.

I read a number of articles a few years back by a young woman, whose name I can’t remember, who catapulted to fame after writing about what this did to young women at her college dorm whereby shared bathroom facilities was the norm.

I think it’s all to do with providing bathrooms for the sexually confused.

Back when I used to go to the gym a lot, I used to share changing rooms with lesbians, which didn’t bother me. But if a man who thought he was a woman was had of been in there, it would have been disturbing, and I doubt it would have been something I would have been comfortable with.
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November 1, 2014 6:50pm
Johnboy

She keeps wanting to go to bloody Hawaii for some reason waikatogirl?

Heard that they never have to shit on shovels there I guess.

Not really like the Tararuas though! 🙂
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November 1, 2014 6:50pm
Johnboy

I’d be happy to share a changing room with you Lucia even though I’m not a Catholic! 🙂

I’d pretend I wasn’t looking as long as you did the same! 🙂
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November 1, 2014 6:54pm
Lucia Maria

Of course I’d been looking Johnboy! I’d be wondering what the hell you were doing in the women’s changing room! And then I’d been looking for a weapon, though I am capable of using my bare hands.
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November 1, 2014 6:56pm
holysheet

Back in the day, God told Moses, jesus and Mohammed to choose the people to form their own clans
First by historical order, Moses picked the most beautiful and most intelligent women and put them in his clan.
Then Jesus chose the most beautiful of those left and formed the christian clan.
When Mohammed saw what was left he cried:
Cover yourselves up! For gods sake, cover yourselves up!! and thats why the muslems use the burkar
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November 1, 2014 6:57pm
Johnboy

I would have a weapon available for you to grip with your bare hands Lucia.

You would have to talk to it nicely though! 🙂
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November 1, 2014 6:59pm
big bruv

“She keeps wanting to go to bloody Hawaii for some reason waikatogirl?”

Sigh!…There used to be a time when you could keep a shelia from Wainui happy by chucking her into the car and taking her over the hill into civilisation.
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November 1, 2014 7:04pm
waikatogirl

Us girls like a bit more than just civilization BB! Get with the programme, you can’t take it with you 🙂

JB your Lovely probably deserves an inside holiday, somewhere with walls, a roof and a fab bathroom with all the facilities. Just think of the fringe benefits, all that sunshine and extra time to stay in bed. I’m sure she will be grateful 😉 🙂
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November 1, 2014 7:16pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Johnboy: shit and shovels;

My Great Grandfather was a farm labourer in canterbury at the start of the last century. One day he was digging post holes behind a high gorse hedge on a deserted stretch of rural road one day when the snobby local doctor in his gig came along and stopped right next to him on the other side of the hedge.

My grandfather then sees him drop his trousers and squat down facing the road, he quickly extends his shovel through the hedge underneath said doctor’s arse and catches the crap as it is falls. He then quickly withdraws the shovel as the doctor stands up again leaving the doctor with a true medical mystery on his hands.
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November 1, 2014 7:23pm
Johnboy

When you’re squatting in a tent in the upper reaches of the Waiohine catchment and the wind is doing 70 knots and the rain is doing 200mm in 24hr you really dont give a shit where you shit as long as you don’t get wet doing it! 🙂
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November 1, 2014 7:29pm
nasska

I hope that you realise that the poor folk in Featherston & Greytown have to drink the runoff water from the Waiohine catchment JB.

They probably thought that 1080 residue & possum crap was bad up until now. 🙂
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November 1, 2014 7:40pm
ngatimozart

Whilst some think of the fern as a white feather it s not. All of our war graves overseas have the fern on them and by calling it a white feather you are insulting our war dead, who fought and died for this country of ours. Calling them cowards is a serious insult and you just showing your own ignorance and lack of intestinal fortitude. Have you ever served in any of the of the Armed Forces of NZ?

So I suggest to you to show some respect to those who fell in foreign battles, to those who fought and survived in foreign wars and to those who serve, or have served in the NZDF, so that you have the right to come on here and share your views.
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November 1, 2014 7:40pm
Maggy Wassilieff

I have no worries about using a men’s loo if that’s all that’s available. Of course I’m now old, perpetually confused and short-sighted, so figure I can mumble some excuse if confronted by a worried male.
I could be the dunny cleaner, the latrine inspector or an old pervert…. take your choice.

But if there’s a worry about young girls sharing toilet facilities with mature men, then I think you could extend the concern to young boys as well.
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November 1, 2014 7:41pm
stigie

What shitty reading boys and girlies !~
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November 1, 2014 7:42pm
nasska

I’m buggered if I know what the hoohah about sharing toilet facilities is about. Most councils, at least locally, have introduced unisex toilets where you enter the first free cubicle & lock the door after you.

I’ve never seen half a dozen people of mixed age or indeterminate gender piling into one cubicle but then again we live in the back waters of the Wairarapa & your mileage may vary in cities.
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November 1, 2014 7:55pm
waikatogirl

Whilst some think of the fern as a white feather it s not. All of our war graves overseas have the fern on them and by calling it a white feather you are insulting our war dead who fought and died for this country of ours. Calling the cowards is a serious insult and you just show your own ignorance and cowardice yourselves. Have you ever served in any of the of the Armed Forces of NZ? So I suggest to you to show some respect to those who fell in foreign battles, to those who fought and survived in foreign wars and to those who serve, or have served in the NZDF, so that you had the right to come on here and share your views.
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Nataimozart. I don’t think anyone was showing disrespect saying it looked like a it a white feather. It is more that the fern is printed in white instead of obviously silver and therefore may be confusing. I find it annoying that its not silver paint… My Grandfather was in the Mounted Rifles in WWI, and shot in the leg, my brother-in-law in Vietnam. I think most Kiwis know that NZ soldiers who fell in foreign battles have a fern on their grave stones, or they should!
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November 1, 2014 7:57pm
Johnboy

That’s interesting Maggy. If you’re using a men’s on say the Interislander for a pee how do you cope with those silly little basins they hang off the wall?

They are bloody difficult enough for us chaps in a 6metre swell! 🙂
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November 1, 2014 7:58pm
Johnboy

I always thought that you took your spade with you when you went to town in the wops nasska.

I never realised Eke was so upmarket till now! 🙂
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November 1, 2014 8:01pm
nasska

We haven’t gone unisex yet JB…..we’re waiting see how the idea pans out in the cities. (pun intended). 🙂

Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/risi4e1nsmweu22/Eketahuna%201.jpg?dl=0
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November 1, 2014 8:05pm
Johnboy

It was at least thirty years ago when I cast the wife’s turd into the bush nasska. If you’ve survived drinking the Waiohine till now it has obviously just made you stronger! 🙂
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November 1, 2014 8:05pm
Johnboy

Why do you have a soldier with his hand on his weapon guarding your dunnies nasska?
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November 1, 2014 8:08pm
nasska

Pass!
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November 1, 2014 8:09pm
Johnboy

It dated back to when Duncan Sutherland owned Amalgamated if that’s a guide! 🙂
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November 1, 2014 8:10pm
Johnboy

It’s probably to keep Maggy out I guess! 🙂

In case she backs up to the handbasin instead of the little urinal thingy! 🙂
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November 1, 2014 8:12pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@ Johnboy..Must admit I was a bit spoilt in my interislander travelling days (Did my Ph.D in the Marlborough Sounds)….. One of the pursers was a cuzzie… Don’t think a 3-4hr crossing presented much of a problem for my bladder in those days.
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November 1, 2014 8:19pm
nasska

Why Cannabis is better than Alcohol when in a Relationship:

. When you’re high, you’ll always like your wife’s cooking and will constantly ask for more.
. When you’re high, you will always be sexually attracted to your wife.
. When you’re high, the desire to get off of the sofa and savagely beat the wife to stop her constant nagging is significantly less than the desire to watch the shampoo advert again.
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November 1, 2014 8:21pm
marleybob

publicwatchdog (2,625 comments) says:
November 1st, 2014 at 3:00 pm

I must be one of only a few that think Penny Bright is doing the right thing, You Jaffa’s all moan like stuck pigs about Len Brown, yet you voted him in, not once but twice. You bitch about your traffic and the cost of housing and how the council are wankers, Yet when some one like Penny Bright stands up and ask a very simple question of where her rates are spent, you jaffas ridicule her as a nutter. Maybe if more of you grew some gonads the council would listern
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November 1, 2014 8:44pm
nasska

marleybob

I reckon few here would care a great deal what Penny does to Len or the council.

It’s the interminably long cut & paste, no interest comments she posts on this forum that inspires the bitching.
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November 1, 2014 8:50pm
Harriet

“….We haven’t gone unisex yet JB…..we’re waiting see how the idea pans out in the cities. (pun intended)….”

Nasska can’t wait to sit down to piss. 😎
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November 1, 2014 9:10pm
nasska

You mean you stand up Harriet?

God! The mess! 🙂
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November 1, 2014 9:13pm
Harriet

Ha ha. 😎

Anyway as I said to JB, they won’t allow a mens urinal around young girls – toilets will then be all cubicals. Like we are women. Fuck that.
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November 1, 2014 9:21pm
Griff

But you are a woman Harriet
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November 1, 2014 9:36pm
nasska

Nonsense Griff…..she’s a pre-op transexual crossdresser. 🙂
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November 1, 2014 9:40pm
Nostradamus

Things that make you go hmmm…

A transsexual who had a £10,000 sex change on the NHS to become a woman now wants the taxpayer to foot the bill for a further £14,000 of surgery so she can become a man again.

Chelsea Attonley, 30, who was born a boy and called Matthew, said she now finds being a woman ‘exhausting’, is tired of putting on make-up and wearing heels, and now accepts that she should always have stayed a man.
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Chelsea, who spoke on ITV’s This Morning earlier this year about Katie Price’s encouragement, says she does not feel guilty about asking the taxpayer to pay for her reversion.

‘Now I have decided I want to live as Matthew, I am desperate to have my FF-cup boobs removed,’ she said.

‘I can’t afford to have them done privately, so I am hoping to have the op on the NHS.

‘I can’t work at the moment because I am too upset after what I have been through.

‘I am considering having penis reconstruction too. I don’t feel bad about the NHS paying for the surgery as I don’t consider it a choice.

‘I need to have these operations for the sake of my mental health. I am lucky enough to live in a country where there is free health care.

“Free health care” – yeah right!
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November 1, 2014 9:46pm
Griff

Its just a poor confused banana bending wingnut.
Since gods man on earth became pro gay.
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November 1, 2014 9:47pm
publicwatchdog

Sheesh – some of you Kiwibloggers talk a load of crap!

Literally ….

Just as well some of us come here with some FACTS and EVIDENCE on the big issues to try and lift the level of the ‘debate’?

However- seems that with most of my posts – there’s very little ‘debate’ – they’re just highly unpopular with significant numbers of the Kiwiblog ‘commentariat’?

Which is a source of great comfort to me – because it tends proves I must be on the right track …..

‘You don’t cop the flak unless you’re over the target’ – sort of thing ?

You all continue to have a LOVELY evening 🙂

You’ve certainly helped make mine!

Kind regards,

Penny Bright

(Helping to defend the LAWFUL rights of citizens and ratepayers to ‘open, transparent and democratically accountable’ local government, even if many of the Auckland-based Kiwibloggers don’t (yet) get that? )
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November 1, 2014 9:55pm
nasska

https://www.dropbox.com/s/eg8swlr7moprrai/Cuckoo%2031%209%2014.png?dl=0
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November 1, 2014 9:58pm
Griff

You are not a rate payer so why is it your business?
When are you going to campaign about the dirty politics of Nicky Hager stealing private information unlawfully?
Are you going to complain about labor party members using hidden trusts to fund campaign spending ?
Will you campaign about the repeated rorts of Maori leaders misappropriating the money out of tribal trusts?
Are you going to expose the crony behavior of the unions and the labor party stealing the moneys of union members to pervert politics?
Have you made any effort to censure Mat McCarten for his theft of workers tax payments?
or are you only a left wing moonbat who is not interested in stamping out all corruption just pushing your political ideology?
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November 1, 2014 10:20pm
Lucia Maria

Penny,

If you were to reduce the size of your comments, then you would cop less flak. Just scroll back and look, really look at your comments, especially the ones where you copy/paste entire letters in and add many more lines of extraneous unnecessary stuff, including your user name, which is posted at the top of each comment, which you could change to Penny Bright – therefore they would be no need to repeat it in the comment as well! That’s where 50% or so of the bother comes from.

I down tick your large comments just because they are huge – and for no other reason as I do believe in the right of protest. If enough people down tick, then at least the comment disappears unless someone clicks specifically on it to read it.

Consider getting a blog through Blogger or WordPress and just linking to your large posts instead. And as others have said, learn to summarise!
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