General Debate 1 October 2014

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Yvette

I think at the end of the day, people wanted stability. They wanted prosperity. They saw the current government, for now, delivering that for them, and they weren’t prepared to take what they saw as some kind of risk for a change…
– David Cunliffe

See? – Cunliffe actually knows exactly what the problem is.
Labour now looking for a fourth leader in less than three years did not produce one reasonable easily explained policy to challenge National.
It’s that fucking simple 🙂

And the prospect of a coalition between Internet, MANA, Greens, New Zealand First, ABC Labour, Rainbow Labour and Cunliffe Labour didn’t help.
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October 1, 2014 8:04am
NK

@tarnbabe67.
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October 1, 2014 8:12am
oldpark

Meanwhile back on the front line,where the battle to be a leader of Labours geriatric MPs,is raging.A reinforecement has entered the fight,David Cunliffes wife”,who is not ashamed of being a woman” She hasn’t held back naming two or three of Labours rat pack, who have upset her tarnished knight in shining armour, her beloved David..She is really upset.when in fact it is really a setup .with her beloved David the architect, of his own misfortune, and completely self inflicted.So for his dutiful wife,she has to know the difference between being UPSET,as against her husbands self inflicted, SETUP,in the battle for Labours geriatric MPs and the Labour Party,long past their use by dates.
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October 1, 2014 8:13am
Keeping Stock

Has anyone seen the first 3/4s of 2014? It seems to have vanished at an alarming rate 😉
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October 1, 2014 8:23am
thedavincimode

KS

That depends on whom you happen to be. I expect that cunners and @TarnBabe67 are finding it a bit drawn out.
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October 1, 2014 8:30am
Odakyu-sen

“Has anyone seen the first 3/4s of 2014? It seems to have vanished at an alarming rate ;-)”

It’s worse than that: only 12 weeks to Christmas Eve, boys and girls.
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October 1, 2014 8:38am
Yvette

David Cunliffe’s wife Karen Price reportedly targeted his rivals on Twitter
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11334613

“DIRTY POLITICS – How attack politics is poisoning New Zealand’s political environment”, is a book by Nicky Hager published in August 2014 …
And the entire premise of the book is that only one morally twisted party was capable of using these deception 🙂
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October 1, 2014 8:41am
Elaycee

…..only 12 weeks to Christmas Eve, boys and girls.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo….. 😯
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October 1, 2014 8:42am
G152

It seems like the last Xmas was only yesterday
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October 1, 2014 8:43am
stephieboy

More moon bat nonsense this time from one Peter Drew UK spokesman for UK Architects and Engineers for Truth .An open letter to David Cameron on his speech to the UN where he allegedly non violent Conpiracy Theorists like 9/11 Truth to terrorists groups like ISIL.

Drew ‘s main point in his open letter, published by conpiracy theory B S Global Research ,attempts to lecture the U K Prime Minister about the so called “facts and evidence “behind 9/11 Truth.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/british-pm-david-cameron-non-violent-extremists-including-911-truthers-and-conspiracy-theorists-are-just-as-dangerous-as-isil-terrorists/5405059
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October 1, 2014 8:49am
KiwiGreg

Please stop picking on Cunners. It’s like kicking someone who is down. Plus we need him to lead Labour for the foreseeable future.
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October 1, 2014 8:50am
flipper

Yvette is absolutely correct, as I tried to point out on the 13 bizarre statements thread:

*** “flipper (3,980 comments) says:

October 1st, 2014 at 7:49 am

All the wailing over Cunliffe and Labour’s leadership is great for National. It simply diverts from Labour’s disconnect with the voting public. Contrary to the likes of the “Dann family”, I suspect that many who voted Labour would continue to vote Labour if it were to be led by Miss Piggy, or Kermit.

Leadership was not, and never will be, Labour’s problem, except for a few manageable per cent – not 20% plus. Labour’s problem is their policy mix and their habit of continually talking down the New Zealand economy when voters knew Labour was talking crap.

When CminusT said New Zealanders wanted stability and prosperity, and ergo did not want to change horses, he was absolutely correct. What he was trying to say was that there were absolutely no drivers for change. That is Labour’s problem, and for so long as it protects us from the economic Neanderthals inhabiting cave Labour, long may it continue. Please do not let us help them understand why they failed.”
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October 1, 2014 8:50am
Keeping Stock

It’s worse than that: only 12 weeks to Christmas Eve, boys and girls.

Thanks very bloody much for that cheery warning!
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October 1, 2014 8:51am
SGA

Yvette at 8:41 am

And the entire premise of the book is that only one morally twisted party was capable of using these deception

If, as Stuff claims, Price is known by the nickname, “Tarn”, then it’s not a particulary good deception either 🙂
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October 1, 2014 8:55am
fernglas

A wife who is prepared to stick up for her husband in times of adversity should be applauded. I just don’t see twitter as the best way.
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October 1, 2014 9:08am
Nigel Kearney

I think the use of ‘tarnbabe67’ suggests there was no attempt at deception. And what she said is basically correct. The ABCs should not be in Parliament. Goff, King, Mallard, Cosgrove, Dyson, Shearer etc should never have been selected. If the party members and unions could override the caucus and make Cunliffe leader, they could certainly have got rid of the dead wood as well by just not selecting them in electorates and not putting them on the list. Why do one and not the other?
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October 1, 2014 9:10am
IGM

Would like to see Emails released showing interactions between Cunliffe, Manning, McCarten, Hager, Harre, Campbell, Slobcrim, and Bradbury . . . these would really blow the left into the weeds. They are out there somewhere, and should be released.
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October 1, 2014 9:12am
Gulag1917

Editorial: The right to cause offence
http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/editorials/10563738/Editorial-The-right-to-cause-offence
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October 1, 2014 9:32am
hj

I think at the end of the day, people wanted stability. They wanted prosperity. They saw the current government, for now, delivering that for them, and they weren’t prepared to take what they saw as some kind of risk for a change…
– David Cunliffe
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and because Labour was off changing it’s bra
http://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/speaker-an-open-letter-to-david-cunliffe/?p=328374#post328374
Tony Alexander’s view on house prices

In BNZ Chief Economist Tony Alexander’s weekly overview, Auckland house prices are set to move upwards nicely. Here are his 19 reasons why:

1. Auckland did not enter the 2008 recession then late-2008 into 2009 global financial crisis with an over-supply of property. Shortages of personnel constrained house construction from 2004 through 2008.
2. The shortage has become worse in the past four years and last year annual consent numbers were at a four decade low.
3. The government is explicitly aiming to grow Auckland’s population as a means of achieving “agglomeration” benefits for economic growth which accrue from high interaction amongst economic players.
9. A big fall in apprentice numbers in the past five years coupled with the loss of skilled people to Australia and older tradespeople leaving the sector rather than get licensed means labour-related construction costs will rise and labour will not be available to build houses even were more land available.
13. The migration cycle appears to be on the cusp of turning and if the housing market has performed so well with net outflows over 3,000 in the past year the implications of positive gains are clear.
14. The nature of net inward migration is changing toward greater numbers of people coming from Asia and with Asia’s middle class booming in size potential inflows of wealthier people are large.
17. The government has announced its efforts to improve housing affordability (lower prices) and they are minor and unlikely to have a noticeable impact if any for many years.
18. Any credibility people may have assigned to those who have been predicting big price declines simply because prices have risen a long way and now fallen sharply in some other countries has gone out the window. Few people will now listen to their price decline views.
19. Members of the Opposition believe monetary fairies can make the exchange rate settle permanently lower by forcing interest rate cuts and printing money while letting inflation therefore go up. Given the non-zero possibility that such economically ignorant policies get introduced it is worth getting inflation protection by investing more in property – not less.

http://www.davidwhitburn.com/blogs/auckland-house-prices-to-rise-over-10-in-2013/
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October 1, 2014 9:36am
Tinshed

Karen Price’s use of Twitter in support of her husband’s political career is possibley the most ill-judged action of any partner in the history of New Zdealand politics. It is a complete and utter fail. For a start there is a general consensus that families of Ms are “off limits” to both media and opponents. Yes, partners often have a ceremonial role, to be seen but no heard. And yes, of course families support is pivotal to success of their partners political success. I am sure many families and partners do an enormous amount of work and activity for their partner. But in private. Away from the media. Away from social media. This is understood by all. And it doesn’t matter about the gender or sexual orientation of the MPs and their partners. It applies to all MPs.

But Karen Price chose to break this convention, this model. She inserted herself directly and deliberately into politics. So now she is a target. we all know Twitter can be a hateful place, full of trolls and vilification. Enter at your own risk. And by all accounts there is enough rumours involved Cunliffe and his marriage that his wife is now a public target of.

And their children. Did they think of what this means for this children?

All this may have been OK if the secret twitter account was to attack opponents – and by that I mean other political parties. But not your own party. Not your own MPs. Such people are used to rough and tumble of politics and know how to rebut, leak, undermine and the dark arts of inra-party politics. And now Karen Price is a target of these.

And please don’t play the stress card. Yes, this has been, and still is, a very stressful time for both David Cunliffe and Karen Price. But is is precisely at such times that the true character of a person is revealed. Stress brings at the very best, or the very worst, in people. In times of extreme stress, such as war, we see both heroes and cowards emerge. True character is forged in tough times. The Cunliffes, for now we can speak of them as a political couple, had the opportunity to allow us to think better of them if they showed humility and acceptance of their role in Labour’s defeat. Instead they chose another path, the path of delusion, blame and arrogance.

They both can rightly be condemned for their actions.
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October 1, 2014 9:49am
Yvette

A wife who is prepared to stick up for her husband in times of adversity should be applauded.

How about a woman relentlessly attacked over months of unproven Question Time jibes?
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October 1, 2014 9:52am
hj

Sacha (comments on Public Address) “you have to accept who we is changes”. An open borders advocate.
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October 1, 2014 9:53am
Sofia

Kelvin Davis in Te Tai Tokerau should not stand for Labour leader – this time.
People like Nash and Davis are apparently regarded as closet tories and should actually be run out of the party rather than emulated for their electoral success.

So Cunliffe and Robertson will slug it out – it doesn’t really matter which “wins”, as either will be a disaster, until he is dumped [first time if it is Robertson, seriously sad second time if it is Cunliffe] and yet another leader sought.

Then Kelvin Davis should stand.
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October 1, 2014 9:57am
IGM

Yvette: Judith Collins will settle her debt with the fat fairy, just wait and see. She is a scrapper and a winner, not a losing leech like the perpetrator of the attacks.
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October 1, 2014 10:01am
Andrei

A case of Ebola in Dallas?
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October 1, 2014 10:08am
Jack5

HJ at 9.36 gives a clue on where Twat Dabney gets his idea that prosperity is stimulated by population growth. Quoting BNZ chief economist Tony Alexander, he posts:

The government is explicitly aiming to grow Auckland’s population as a means of achieving “agglomeration” benefits for economic growth which accrue from high interaction amongst economic players.

Alexander’s BNZ clips the ticket of incoming migrants, of course, and I think has helped promote NZ investment to the fabled savers, Tokyo housewives, who will squeal loudly as the kiwi dollar falls.

Alexander should tell dwellers in the following cities that population growth equals economic growth:

Karachi 19.5 million people, Delhi 17.8 million, Lagos 17 million, Dhaka 12 million, Cairo (city alone rather than urban area) 11.9 million, Lahore 11.3 million, Bangalore 10.1 million, Mexico City (city not urban area) 8.8 million, Dar es Salaam 4.3 million, Addis Abbaba 3.1 million, etc etc
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October 1, 2014 10:15am
Gulag1917

Understanding US foreign policy
WOLFOWITZ DOCTRINE – US PLANS FOR RUSSIA
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/04/wolfowitz-doctrine-us-plans-for-russia-2945824.html
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October 1, 2014 10:17am
Milburn35

“Stand by your Man” was a big country and western hit song. Karen Price stands by her man, misguided politically of course. She is quite right however in saying that Cosgrove, Mallard etc. are passed their used by date. What a pity hubby didn’t have the guts to say so. The Labour caucus will all be against Cunliffe(40%) when the election of leader comes round, but the Party and the Unions may “Stand by your man”
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October 1, 2014 11:17am
stephieboy

Gulag 1917,

I would be a tad cautious with any thing Before its News publishes,

Here’s why ,

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/07/100-proof-moon-landing-was-a-hoax-video-3002582.html

And the Putin Doctrine.?

Reoccupation of the Crimea and Ukraine, Baltic States etc .??
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October 1, 2014 11:33am
Manolo

stephie will be over the moon: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/fox-news-nabs-historic-cable-736624

The average 1.79 million viewers between 8 p.m. and 11 pm., Monday through Friday, gave FNC its first quarter atop since 2003. Expanding that block by an hour, FNC was the most watched in primetime for the first time ever. And in the targeted demographic of adults 25-54, FNC was up 12 percent from the same period a year ago, with an average 313,000 viewers.
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October 1, 2014 11:40am
stephieboy

Manolo, easily explained. Fox News has obviously taken a leaf out of America’s got Talent, Dancing with the Stars and US Master Chef jnr. and other forms of like top TV shows there .

I think it’s also called Newsak or is it Infotainment t.?

Glen Beck and Bill O’Reilly

Heh, heh, heh… !
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October 1, 2014 11:50am
kowtow

How the hell can Greenpeace claim charitable status when they gatecrash economic conferences and disrupt speakers’ right to freely address the same?

I note one of them had a North American accent but said she didn’t want Statoil here ,destroying “our” shores.
Piss off wealthy woman who appears to enjoy a lifestyle that doesn’t seem to involve productive employment.

I want oil exploration and exploitation ,it will improve our wealth , give New Zealanders employment ,income and a higher standard of livingand help to reduce our crippling public debt.
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October 1, 2014 12:21pm
Komata

But Kowtow, don’t you SEE; the Americans know EVERYTHING about everything and (even if they have just ‘stepped off the ‘plane), they just can’t wait to tell all us ‘less than informed’ ‘locals’ exactly how things simply HAVE to be because they are ‘all knowledgeable’ and we know nothing…

At least, that seems to be the premise the vast majority of ‘Yanks’ work on when they arrive in New Zealand (and elsewhere of course). They simply cannot conceive that their ideas might just be incorrect or inappropriate. It is also VERY VERY evident, that, having dispensed their lofty wisdom (and frequently caused an immense amount of damage locally as a result as the locals try to ‘conform’ to what must be right; the American has said so), the visitors then return home (never to be seen again BTW), firmly convinced that ‘they have saved the world’, and supremely ignorant of the damage they have left in their wake. And if challenged and the consequences pointed out, it is rarely their ‘fault’; the ‘locals’ having ‘misinterpreted’ the instructions they were given.

I have seen this happen on several occasions, and can find no logical explanation as to why it occurs.

Some would call such actions ‘unwarranted interference’, a situation not helped by our long-standing national characteristic of believing if ‘it’s from overseas it must be infinitely better than anything that we have here’; even when that is proven to not be the case).

The ‘American’ you heard is probably just another example of the breed.
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October 1, 2014 12:53pm
Ross12

This piece from the Gisborne Herald ( highlighted on W/Oil) needs to be spread wide and far to show the many in the Greens are watermelons

http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2014/10/green-party-east-coast-candidate-goes-super-nasty-gisborne-herald-article/
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October 1, 2014 3:04pm
IGM

I find it ironic that a left-wing woman had the audacity to abuse Leighton this morning over Cunliffe being attacked by various media. What a shame Cunliffe, what goes around comes around, and while you and your henchman McCarten, along with Campbell, Bradbury, Slobcrim, Harre, Hager, et al, were abusing the shit out of the PM and doing your best to ruin him, nothing was said. Personally, if I saw any of these scum lying ill in a gutter, I would boot them in the guts.
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October 1, 2014 3:43pm
Kea

Iranian Executed for “Insulting the Prophet Jonah”

His crimes include “heresy”, “reinterpreting the Qur’an”, and “insulting the Prophet Jonah”. He used to run sessions of Qur’an interpretation, and in one of them he had said “Prophet Jonah didn’t actually survive in the whale’s stomach”, and this was considered criminal enough to execute him.

A vision of NZ under the rule of Shawn, Rowan and Kowtow ?
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October 1, 2014 3:46pm
Rowan

Bird brain
Iran is actually an Islamic state which has its own laws and punishments etc, I am certainly not advocating for any of that culture here and it is certainly not a vision that I would do anything to promote!
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October 1, 2014 4:12pm
Manolo

One not so peaceful guy gets shot: http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8913647/shot-nzer-a-nice-guy-who-had-problems
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October 1, 2014 4:42pm
edhunter

Posted this on another thread( probably the wrong one) so I’m reposting on GD

If DC falls onto or is tripped, pushed, held down while impaled on his sword & resigns from parliament what are the ramifications for National & the New Lynn electorate?
I think New Lynn in 2014 is a very different beast to say Mt Albert in 2008 where even then National ran a pretty incompetent campaign against Shearer.
There’s a very real chance that Tim Groser if he stands will win the seat from Labour for the first time ever. If he does do National get a replacement list MP for Tim?
If not will they stand someone else not in parliament already?
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October 1, 2014 4:55pm
IGM

The left-wing filth that controls editorial policy at Manawatu Standard have now turned their bias and dishonest attacks to the Republicans . . . they should be closed down!
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October 1, 2014 5:01pm
Yvette

Tinshed – But Karen Price chose to break this convention, this model. She inserted herself directly and deliberately into politics. So now she is a target. we all know Twitter can be a hateful place, full of trolls and vilification. Enter at your own risk. And by all accounts there is enough rumours involved Cunliffe and his marriage that his wife is now a public target of.

It would appear the rumours you refer to are either untrue, or no evidence is available to substantiate them.
The pertinent question now however is who particularly in Labour has been spreading these rumours – that could be seriously more damning in the upcoming leadership race than whether the stories are in fact true or not.
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October 1, 2014 5:20pm
MT_Tinman

IGM (289 comments) says:
October 1st, 2014 at 5:01 pm

The left-wing filth that controls editorial policy at Manawatu Standard have now turned their bias and dishonest attacks to the Republicans . . . they should be closed down!

I agree.

Free speech must never be allowed!

….or, of course, you could just refrain from reading their stuff.
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October 1, 2014 5:40pm
Lucia Maria

From Gulag’s link:

Our first objective is to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival, either on the territory of the former Soviet Union or elsewhere, that poses a threat on the order of that posed formerly by the Soviet Union. This is a dominant consideration underlying the new regional defense strategy and requires that we endeavor to prevent any hostile power from dominating a region whose resources would, under consolidated control, be sufficient to generate global power.

Is this not a good thing?

I didn’t really read beyond that, because I got the impression it wasn’t considered a good thing by the article.
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October 1, 2014 6:08pm
Rowan

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/10566894/Doug-Bracewell-back-in-Black-Caps

Reasonable squad selected, In the test squad just replace Hamish Rutherford with Martin Guptill, Rutherford has been hopeless, Guptill can’t be any worse!
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October 1, 2014 6:08pm
Kea

I didn’t really read beyond that, because I got the impression it wasn’t considered a good thing by the article.

A surprisingly frank admission that she refuses to hear any point of view that contradicts her existing prejudice and is ill informed to comment on any topic.

I really can not add to that.
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October 1, 2014 6:23pm
Other_Andy

Some People get it…

Elbert Guillory: “Why I Am a Republican”

Louisiana Senator Elbert Guillory (R-Opelousas) explains why he recently switched from the Democrat Party to the Republican Party. He discusses the history of the Republican Party, founded as an Abolitionist Movement in 1854. Guillory talks about how the welfare state is only a mechanism for politicians to control the black community.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_YQ8560E1w

And….

An Anti-Landrieu ad from Elbert Guillory

“You are not Mary’s cause. . . you are just a vote. . . . You are a means to an end.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEjqRLjP7Io

Looking at the Maori electoral seats, many Maori don’t get it yet…..
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October 1, 2014 6:51pm
Lucia Maria

Kea,

I find it saves time, once I get an inkling of where the article is going. I’ve read enough of the type Gulag has apparently linked, to know where that’s likely to be. So, I ask questions instead.
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October 1, 2014 7:22pm
ross411

I was going to join Labour to vote Cunliffe, as Farrar suggested was possible with his retweet of this 3 hours ago. Unfortunately, the original tweet was last night 🙁

Tony Milne on Twitter:
Labour has a proud legacy & a bright future. …

Isn’t that the way it goes, the pride comes before the fall. The bright future.. flames can be seen from a distance?
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October 1, 2014 7:30pm
Kea

Kea,

I find it saves time,”

Yes Lucy, many have found that believing things on faith [belief without evidence] “saves time”.

It also saves: Thinking, developing a coherent morality, worrying about doing the right thing, having a conscience… and a host of other human afflictions.

I can see why you are so attached to it.
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October 1, 2014 7:36pm
Johnboy

The lack of chins in the Cunliffe family should have been a warning sign for the Labour hierarchy surely?
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October 1, 2014 7:36pm
Johnboy

I’m beginning to warm to Trev Mallard really. I almost hope he survives the recount! 🙂
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October 1, 2014 7:38pm
stigie

Trevor will be wonderful for the Liarbore Party JB, you wait and see !~
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October 1, 2014 7:42pm
Lucia Maria

A couple of other links from the site Gulag linked to:

Proof Of US Plan To Kill 90% Of World Population With Airborne Ebola?

Putin Threatens To Bust U.S. “9/11 Inside Job’ Conspiracy With Facts And Figures

Kea,

Yes Lucy, many have found that believing things on faith [belief without evidence] “saves time”.

It also saves: Thinking, developing a coherent morality, worrying about doing the right thing, having a conscience… and a host of other human afflictions.

Or … it saves time for better reading rather than worthless crap. I used my thinking brain to make a judgement call about the article that was linked to. And I was right.
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October 1, 2014 7:46pm
Kea

Cunliffe is the perfect representation of Labour. He is perfect for the job and rocketed them to a result their policies alone did not merit.

He represents Labour wonderfully in the following way:

1. Contrived and stunningly insincere.

2. A lust for power over others.

3. Arrogant narcissistic authoritarian.

4. Envious and bitter towards those who have done better than him.

5. Does not identify with ordinary people.

6. Divisive and tribal.

What more could you ask of a Labour leader ? Mallard has big boots to fill. 😆
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October 1, 2014 7:52pm
Kea

Lucia Maria, you are attacking the source and not engaging the argument. Don’t take people for fools. You have a brain, use it.

Would you like me to quote some bible verses for fact checking and credibility ?

Or how about some of the absurd stuff you see on Christian conservative sites ?

I would rather just have interesting and novel abuse hurled at me [Warning: Now banned] than have you insult my intelligence.
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October 1, 2014 7:56pm
Johnboy

Trev sacked his wife a while ago Kea. Cunners is still supporting his. Shall we know the lay of the land when he flicks her? 🙂
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October 1, 2014 7:56pm
Kea

Johnboy, I need some advice. The new comment policy provides:

Give other commenters the courtesy of referring to them by the name or alias they use on this blog.

I am thinking of changing my name and would appreciate your views on the available choices.

1. Rabbi Kea.

2. The prophet Kea may peace and blessings be upon him.

3. My Lord & Master

4. Knuckle dragging narcissistic attention seeking god hating prog.
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October 1, 2014 8:07pm
Johnboy

Kea the Kunt would seem appropriate really! 🙂
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October 1, 2014 8:09pm
wat dabney

Jack5,

“HJ at 9.36 gives a clue on where Twat Dabney gets his idea that prosperity is stimulated by population growth…”

You might remember that I told you to find out the difference between necessary and sufficient conditions.

I’m only trying to stop you making a fool of yourself.
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October 1, 2014 8:17pm
ross411

Johnboy (16,071 comments) says:
October 1st, 2014 at 7:36 pm
The lack of chins in the Cunliffe family should have been a warning sign for the Labour hierarchy surely?

Post a picture of your own chin before making fun of someone else. Cushing’s syndrome is no laughing matter.
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October 1, 2014 8:31pm
stigie

No 4 is quite popular around here Kea !~
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October 1, 2014 8:33pm
Kea

No 4 is quite popular around here Kea !~

stigie, Indeed it is, which may result in folk becoming confused about my identity, given KB’s status as a leading prog sewer/troll farm 😉
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October 1, 2014 8:37pm
stigie

Proud to part of the prog sewer troll farm Kea, otherwise i would go nuts…but keep it to yourself !~
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October 1, 2014 8:43pm
Johnboy

Well, hell, if you insist ross411. I don’t have any photo’s of me but I look a lot like my twin brother Dan.

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=desperate+dan&biw=1366&bih=633&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=27ArVLflDYz58QXrzYHgAg&sqi=2&ved=0CBsQsAQ
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October 1, 2014 8:47pm
big bruv

Kea

I would prefer you to leave number 4 for me.
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October 1, 2014 8:49pm
Redbaiter

4 would need to have “coward” added before it would work for you.
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October 1, 2014 8:56pm
stigie

Evening Reddy
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October 1, 2014 8:57pm
Johnboy

Where’s nasska? 🙂
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October 1, 2014 8:58pm
stigie

Coming back from the four square store on his Fergie JB ?
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October 1, 2014 9:01pm
Kea

4 would need to have “coward” added before it would work for you.

Dear Mr Redbaiter,

I would like to draw your attention to a number of facts.

1. While you rightly oppose censorship on this blog, you have very restrictive and less transparent censorship on your own.

2. I stand by my comments on KB and in real life. I do so only with concern with what is right and not to appeal to the popular, or for personal advantage.

I am unable to find any justification for your allegations of cowardice. However, I do find ample evidence of cowardice on your part. I invite you to re-consider your uncalled for remark and withdraw it.

Warmest Regards,
Kea
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October 1, 2014 9:05pm
Johnboy

Probably picked up Penny and Judith hitchhiking their way down to Wainui stigie and offered to put them up for the night.

Hope the Eke pharmacy had enough viagra so he can show them a proper country welcome! 🙂
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October 1, 2014 9:06pm
stigie

Maybe hes offered to bring them over the hill JB….Hope you have everything sorted if thats the case ?
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October 1, 2014 9:09pm
Kea

“Where’s nasska?”

Johnboy, he might have gone for good. This “standards” business has been hard for us all.

How will we ever know if we are atheist, Muslim, communist, sheep shaggers, if no one is allowed to tell us anymore ?
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October 1, 2014 9:12pm
Johnboy

I’m a bit worried as to the welfare of those two young ladies stigie.

Specially since we haven’t heard from ether of them since September 20th.

I’m certain nasska will share our concern for them and offer whatever comfort he normally would to distressed wimmin! 🙂
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October 1, 2014 9:15pm
Johnboy

As long as we know deep down in our hearts Kea that we are just kunts we will never become konfused! 🙂
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October 1, 2014 9:17pm
stigie

They will be in very good hands JB im sure….Ekatahuna’s finest !!
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October 1, 2014 9:19pm
Harriet

They’ve both got a fetish for the 6 fingered hill billy. 😎
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