General Debate 16 October 2014

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Kea

“Kea, a while back you claimed to have been on the phone to an Iranian”

Shawn, So was it an Iranian or a Jew (as you claimed). You must remember your own lies or else it is too easy for me.

For the record, I do talk to people in Iran using social media from time to time. The last Jew I met I slept with. Make what you will of that. I am sure you can construct some twisted nasty narrative from it. I could probably list, by: race, religion, culture, gender etc numerous other people I know, if you think it would comfort you.

Or maybe you should simply clutch your book of religious fables and make up some more of your own ?

I don’t give a fuck either way. I just want to see you happy 😉
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October 16, 2014 6:05pm
stigie

“If John Key has joint NZ / USA citizenship – that would concern me”.

You seem to be the only person concerned Penny, the rest of us….well,we could’nt give a fuck !~
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October 16, 2014 6:09pm
Shawn Herles

Hi Don, sorry to hear about your daughter. My mother went through the same recently.

Just got back with a six pack of Montieths. 🙂
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October 16, 2014 6:12pm
Nostradamus

Stigie:

we could’nt give a fuck

The public voted on 20 September, and the verdict was *drum roll* three more years!
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October 16, 2014 6:12pm
stigie

Yea, but the voting was rigged dont you know Nostra !~
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October 16, 2014 6:16pm
Shawn Herles

Penny, I’m sorry to say your concern is too late. The master plan that we yanks have been implementing for years has finally come to pass, and we have one of our own running NZ! Muhahahaha!!!!!! 🙂
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October 16, 2014 6:16pm
Nostradamus

Stigie:

Do you mean a majority of NZers misunderstood what “vote positive” was supposed to mean?
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October 16, 2014 6:20pm
stigie

Even im confused Nostra…may have to get the Pubicwatchdog to look into it perhaps !!
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October 16, 2014 6:24pm
Shawn Herles

Labours vote positive campaign was a huge success. People understood, took it seriously, and proceeded to vote for National!
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October 16, 2014 6:26pm
mandk

“… rather than distorted out of context sentence fragments… ”

That’s a bit rich coming from you, Kea. It’s your favourite game.
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October 16, 2014 6:26pm
Nostradamus

Stigie:

Pubicwatchdog

Freudian slip? Subliminal message for Johnboy? Something else?
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October 16, 2014 6:26pm
Griff

To new for me don
You are talking to someone who has johnny cash in the car radio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip5e9NUvX6A
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October 16, 2014 6:32pm
stigie

Sorry Nostra, im not a keyboard warrior like yous guys. Johnboy maybe along shortly to tell me off !~
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October 16, 2014 6:33pm
Shawn Herles

Yes, but kea, what you fail to get is that I just do not take much that you say seriously, or believe anything you say about your claimed friends. You have never given me any reason to believe anything other than that you just make stuff up to suit yourself. Like dismissing legit news reports with facile excuses, or claiming to talk to Iranians.

Look at your own words that I posted from the rape culture debate. Why, when we can all read what you have said in the past, do you expect anyone to take you seriously or believe any of your claims?

Call it the boy who cried wolf syndrome.
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October 16, 2014 6:34pm
Nostradamus

Can someone explain how the three-strikes legislation applies, if at all, to this piece of shit?

Allan Neil Rosewarne, 48, was sentenced to preventive detention by Justice Susan Thomas, of Auckland, in the High Court in New Plymouth.

Rosewarne’s cruelty toward two women and their children spanned 1990 to 2008.

Thomas sentenced him to preventive detention with a minimum non-release period of 10 years.
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Rosewarne initially denied 44 charges when he went on trial in August but pleaded guilty to 18 charges on the hearing’s third day.

The charges included rape, sexual violation, injuring with intent to cause grievous bodily harm, injuring with intent to injure, indecent assault, kidnapping, threatening to kill, assault with a weapon and cruelty to children.

The stuff this piece of shit did (which is noted in the linked article) is beyond belief.
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October 16, 2014 6:40pm
Reid

Kea, sadly Shawn’s a liar and a hypocrite.

e.g. of the former:

I’m not repeating propaganda, I’m repeating a news report of what he actually said.

Only a roaring mental doesn’t know Shawn’s quotes from AFP aren’t propaganda. So what is he: a roaring mental, or a liar? Pick one. There’s isn’t another alternative.

e.g. of the latter, conveniently from his very same post @ 5:00 PM.

Dismissing everything that does not conform to your opinion as “propaganda” is not a credible argument, just a convenient one.

Which is what he does all the time.

As we all know.

All I’m suggesting Kea is: don’t bother, he’s a lightweight on the erudition and humility fronts and a heavyweight on the bluster, sanctimony and arrogance fronts.

By all means make the point YOU wish to make, but take some advice from the Bible. Pro 26:4 “Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.”

And one that Shawn might one day learn the meaning of: Pro 26:12 “Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.”
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October 16, 2014 6:48pm
edhunter

Nos I’m constantly shocked & stunned by what we are capable of doing to one another. And it’s bad enough when you read about it happening in the US or elsewhere. But here? How does this happen for as long as it did without other people knowing what was happening it blows my frigging mind.
And that’s the thing other people must’ve known what was happening & turned a blind eye to it, that makes them no better than the piece of shit doing the deeds.
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October 16, 2014 6:52pm
twofish

Penny, just how big a shareholder is Prime Minister John Key in the Bank of America?
You actually have no fucking idea do you, and that is a FACT and that is the TRUTH 🙂
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October 16, 2014 6:52pm
Shawn Herles

“Only a roaring mental doesn’t know Shawn’s quotes from AFP aren’t propaganda”

Correct Reid, they AREN,T propaganda! 🙂

How is your war against Rothschild/Zionist/Jew global domination going?
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October 16, 2014 6:59pm
Lucia Maria

I’ve just returned from my garden where I disturbed a blackbird that was digging holes in the strawberry patch. Right up into the roots of the newly planted strawberries. This is not the first time as all week I’ve been going down there and replanting the occasional plant that has been dug out. People blame this sort of thing on cats, but it’s not cats, it blasted blackbirds.
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October 16, 2014 7:02pm
Reid

How is your war against Rothschild/Zionist/Jew global domination going?

See what I mean Kea? Another lie.

He just can’t help it.

Apparently, it’s just who he is.
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October 16, 2014 7:03pm
chiz

Keeping him occupied: Assange designs new clothing line.
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October 16, 2014 7:07pm
Lucia Maria

Reid,

Thanks for the nice things you said about me the other day. I’m referring to the first two and we’ll just have to agree to disagree about the third one.
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October 16, 2014 7:17pm
Don the Kiwi

Lucia.

The only time its cats is if, as you put your hand into the dirt to replant your strawberry plant, you get some evil smelling cat turd on it – be sure to wear gardening gloves if you are having trouble with cats.

This year I have put a lot of sheep shit pellets in my garden and a lot of compost – seems to have kept the cats away so far.

Happy gardening 🙂
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October 16, 2014 7:35pm
Lucia Maria

Don,

If it were my cat, she’s be rolling in your sheep pellets. But most cats don’t like them. Glad to hear they are working!

I need netting to fend off the birds, just haven’t gotten around to setting it up yet.

BTW, I’ll pray for your daughter, but I’m sure she’ll be fine anyway.
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October 16, 2014 7:44pm
Reid

Lucia thank you.

To explain the way I see it, it’s respect.

Some people seem to hallucinate when people disagree with them on a blog it’s personal. It’s never that in the reality but that’s the hallucination we all have, to a greater or lessor extent.

It becomes personal because people conflate the emotion inherent in an opinion one holds with the personality of that person expressing it which is intense to the degree that opinion is apposite to that which one holds on the given subject and most importantly, to the degree which the person experiencing the emotion, is convinced they are correct.

That dynamic is behind a lot of conflict that occurs not just on blogs but in all personal human interaction.

IMO.

That said, you and I have interacted for years and over those years naturally even without ever contacting each other we know to the extent one can over a blog, our styles, foibles and perspectives.

It’s not friendship of course how can it be, but it is respect.

All the best and take care out there, as the Hill Street Blues sarge used to say. Words don’t hurt. It’s how you decide to treat words which hurts, and you get to decide if they do or not.
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October 16, 2014 7:52pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@ Lucia Maria…. those blackbirds have hungry babies to feed… First clutch should be fledging now… got a couple more clutches to raise by Xmas…. if you’re lucky , they’ll be munching up slugs and snails for you.
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October 16, 2014 7:53pm
Don the Kiwi

Thank you Lucia, 🙂
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October 16, 2014 7:57pm
nasska

Lucia & Don

The permanent solution:

http://www.gamousa.com/images/rifles/detail_viper_express.jpg

Basically it’s a .22 air rifle designed to fire cartridges of tiny pellets of 9# shot. Spread is about 450mm @ 10metres.

Deadly on birds……cats can develop a leak at close range. 🙂
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October 16, 2014 7:57pm
Johnboy

Despite the fact that I’m an asshole I’m still currently feeding Phillup, Phillus and Phillit the Magpies.

I suspect they have at least one other egg they are working on. Phillus and Phillit (last years daughter) regularly seem to be taking food back to the nest. Phillup (the Dad) does a little if he can be bothered.

Tegel chicken luncheon is the food of choice.

Phillus is so tame I can walk out onto the lawn when she pops down and she runs up to me looking for food. 🙂

At least the Magpies know I’m not really a cunt! 🙂
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October 16, 2014 8:21pm
nasska

Muslim suicide bombers in Britain are set to begin a three-day strike on Monday in a dispute over the number of virgins they are entitled to in the afterlife. Emergency talks with Al Qaeda have so far failed to produce an agreement.

he unrest began last Tuesday when Al Qaeda announced that the number of virgins a suicide bomber would receive after his death would be cut by 25% this October from 72 to 54. A spokesman said increases in recent years in the number of suicide bombings has resulted in a shortage of virgins in the afterlife.

The suicide bombers’ union, the British Organisation of Occupational Martyrs (or B.O.O.M) responded with a statement saying the move was unacceptable to its members and called for a strike vote. General Secretary Abdullah Amir told the press “Our members are literally working themselves to death in the cause of Jihad. We don’t ask for much in return but to be treated like this is like a kick in the teeth”.

Speaking from his shed in Tipton in the West Midlands, Al Qaeda chief executive Haisheet Mapants explained “I sympathise with our workers concerns but Al Qaeda is simply not in a position to meet their demands. They are simply not accepting the realities of modern-day Jihad in a competitive marketplace. Thanks to Western depravity, there is now a chronic shortage of virgins in the afterlife. It’s a straight choice between reducing expenditures or laying people off. I don’t like cutting afterlife benefits but I’d hate to have to tell 3,000 of my staff that they won’t be able to blow themselves up”.

Spokespersons for the BOOM union in the North East of England, Ireland, Wales, New Zealand and the entire Australian continent stated that the change would not hurt their membership as there are no virgins in their areas anyway.
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October 16, 2014 8:37pm
Johnboy

Obummer should be bombing the Levant with Tegel Chicken Luncheon and Whittakers Chocolate nasska!!

Hearts and minds lad….hearts and minds! 🙂
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October 16, 2014 8:41pm
nasska

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dkyiqa3fgtdwwgc/Wankstain%2018.jpg?dl=0
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October 16, 2014 8:42pm
Johnboy

I never ever thought I would enjoy the company of a fucking Magpie till I feed it and conversed with it on a one to one basis!

Nicer to speak to than Kea’s! 🙂
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October 16, 2014 8:44pm
Johnboy

Saved your Kitten there nasska! 🙂 🙂
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October 16, 2014 8:45pm
nasska

If what I’ve read recently is true JB, dropping a busload or three of pre-pubescent girls in Birmingham might generate more goodwill.

Some of Allah’s new arrivals in Britain seem to have a thing for pube dodging. 🙂
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October 16, 2014 8:48pm
Johnboy

Shit. Two downticks already for being a non-cunt, Magpie, birdlover?

Sick folk inhabit this blog! 🙂
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October 16, 2014 8:51pm
nasska

They can be a weird mob JB. 🙂
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October 16, 2014 8:54pm
Johnboy

The Pom’s should bring back beheading nasska. They used to be very good at it.

Could probably teach these towel heads a thing or two about doing it quickly or slowly as the case may be.

I’m certain it took a few hacks to get some of the women’s heads off….cant recollect the names at the mo! 🙂
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October 16, 2014 8:57pm
cha

Wernher von Braun and Apollo project Saturn V F-1 engines.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0CJSerIYAA6Z_O.jpg:large
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October 16, 2014 8:57pm
Johnboy

Ze Cherman’s unterstood ze meanink of ze horsepower cha! 🙂
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October 16, 2014 9:01pm
cha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjDEsGZLbio
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October 16, 2014 9:03pm
Johnboy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocketdyne_F-1
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October 16, 2014 9:03pm
Johnboy

Ve vill never see such genius again…..Seig Heil! 🙂
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October 16, 2014 9:04pm
cha

Prick was damned lucky Bert Pierrepoint didn’t stretch his neck.
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October 16, 2014 9:06pm
Johnboy

However.. Do not be downhearted folk! Unlimited power is almost within our grasp! 🙂

http://www.stuff.co.nz/science/62459476/Breakthrough-on-fusion-energy-project
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October 16, 2014 9:07pm
Johnboy

Kelly Johnson left a great legacy of striving for the impossible dream cha! 🙂
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October 16, 2014 9:08pm
wreck1080

Anyone noticed whaleoil appears to have turned against john key?

3 negative articles recently. I wonder if he is bitter?
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October 16, 2014 9:13pm
Johnboy

Not as bitter as the less than honourable Judith I suspect! 🙂
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October 16, 2014 9:15pm
Lucia Maria

Reid,

Thanks, I understand (or think I understand) what you’re saying.

I’ve just got to add that I think things get out of control also when a person believes that there is danger inherent in a particular belief system. Such as saying, don’t go to that cliff, you’re going to fall over it and the other person saying, there’s no cliff, it’s fine, I’ll just run that way, and then the first person will naturally get very excited because of the danger they perceive that the second person is unaware of. Extrapolate that out to various arguments, and we get very heated exchanges.

For that reason, I tend not to get too wound up by these conversations, most of the time, that is. And, I would ask that you not be so harsh on Shawn – he’s seeing a danger that you are totally unaware of. Even if you think the danger isn’t there, he does.

Maggy Wassilieff,

Those birds have a huge garden to forage in and they have been eating snails (and presumably slugs and other creatures). However, in order to coexist, I’m going to have to prevent them from getting at my strawberries, or I will take up Nasska’s idea of an air rifle. Either that, or create an area for my cat to hide in so she can actually catch them better.

Nasska,

So tempting …. LOL!
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October 16, 2014 9:55pm
Reid

Even if you think the danger isn’t there, he does.

Oh I know the danger is there Lucia. The disagreement stems from whence it comes.

Because penetrating the obfuscations thrown up to deliberately disguise that is the whole point.
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October 16, 2014 9:59pm
Shawn Herles

Reid, you have mentioned this Rothschild conspiracy before, and the whole Zionist global thing as well. I can easily find posts you have made. So, bullshit, the only one lying here is you.
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October 16, 2014 10:12pm
Nostradamus

And, quite predictably, Glassons removes thin mannequins:

Fashion retailer Glassons is to remove its super-skinny mannequins from its stores after they sparked outrage.

The mannequins, with visible ribs, had angered many people including at least 15,000 people who signed an online petition to have them removed.

This evening Hallenstein Glasson CEO Graeme Popplewell said the company agreed that its mannequins were unacceptable and has ordered their removal from display in all stores.

“While these mannequins are not new to the business, we have taken on board the feedback of New Zealand women in its entirety, and we unreservedly apologise for any upset we may have caused those who viewed the store displays,” says Popplewell.

“The removal of the offending mannequins is effective immediately and once again we wish to reiterate how truly sorry we are to the women of New Zealand,” he says.

Three questions:

1. If you’re an ANGRY customer, why wouldn’t you express that anger by spending your money at a different shop?

2. Graeme Popplewell says “we have taken on board the feedback of New Zealand women in its entirety”. Did he take on board the feedback of ALL New Zealand women, or just the ANGRY ones?

3. If these people can work up so much ANGER over a mannequin (for goodness sake), what else are they ANGRY about?

This is yet another manifestation of insidious human rights (in this case, the right not to be offended) that never previously existed but somehow seem to have crept into our lives.
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October 16, 2014 10:14pm
Scott Chris

Toxicity was number one on the charts during the week of the September 11, 2001 attacks. Means nothing but I always liked this song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSvFpBOe8eY
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October 16, 2014 10:19pm
Reid

Three questions:

Where’s the question about why did one make them like that in the first place?

That’s the real story. And lo, our MSM didn’t even ask it.

Quelle horreur.
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October 16, 2014 10:23pm
Nostradamus

Reid:

Where’s the question about why did one make them like that in the first place?

I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that the mannequins have been in use for some time. The basis for my assumption was Graeme Popplewell’s comment that “While these mannequins are not new to the business…”.

Now, if you think about it, the purpose of a mannequins is to showcase some of the clothing in the shop. You’re hardly going to achieve that purpose by displaying an undressed mannequin, are you? And you’re certainly not going to achieve that purpose by displaying an undressed mannequin with visible ribs.

But here’s my point: I walk past many things in this world (such as mannequins) without mentally projecting my insecurity onto those things and then, in reverse, projecting those insecurities back onto myself. That’s what these people are doing. They then claim that their human rights have been breached. It’s just so shallow, and yet no one is surprised anymore.
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October 16, 2014 10:27pm
Southern Raider

Had to laugh reading an article in the herald about the rise of natural gas supply due to fracking.

The climate change mob are now against natural gas because they believe it will become so plentiful and cheap it will reduce investment in good low emission and renewable power options like solar, wind and nuclear.

Yes the left wing climate nuts have spent 30 years demonising nuclear power but now think it isn’t that bad
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October 16, 2014 10:40pm
Reid

It’s just so shallow, and yet no one is surprised anymore.

Yes I agree. But the human race esp in the Western world has been going to hell in a handcart since the 1960’s.

Through the very same dynamics you’re raising.

I just thought it was time to talk about some other angle.

Not that you’re wrong.

And not that your point isn’t the main point.

But talking about things most people have long since subsumed into their subconsciousness lest it upset their conditioning, seems to upset some of them. Luckily for you it appears mannequins are just now emerging as a real class of “person” so it’s safe, at this point, to cwiticise them but I fully expect in a few short years we’ll be required to re-educate ourselves at our own expense if we continue with this anti-mannequin hate crime.

Isn’t life here now just amazingly unspeakable.
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October 16, 2014 10:41pm
Scott Chris

German precision. Ave Maria:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjmK2E_WJbw
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October 16, 2014 10:47pm
cha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wveW9Tw2JKE
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October 16, 2014 10:56pm
publicwatchdog

Good try Stephieboy

Just hoping that nobody will actually CHECK OUT THE FACTS on these links (like I have)?

Which prove that unlike Auckland Transport, none of the following Auckland Council websites DO actually give the ‘devilish detail’ of contracts issued with private sector consultants and contractors?

https://at.govt.nz/media/618879/NZTA-Awarded-Contracts.pdf

Come on Kiwibloggers!

Don’t be LAZY and USELESS like Stephieboy – do your homework and check this out for yourselves …..

(Meant of course in a caring way 🙂

_________________________________________________________________________________________________

Auckland Council

http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/EN/Pages/default.aspx

Auckland Council Investment Limited

http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/…/council…

Auckland Council Property Limited

http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/…/council_property.aspx

Auckland Council Tourism, Events and Economic Development

http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/…/tourism_events…

Auckland Waterfront Development Agency Limited

http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/…/waterfront…

Regional Facilities Auckland

http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/…/regional…

Watercare Services Limited

http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/…/watercare_services…
________________________________________________________________________________________________

PS: Where’s the TaxPayers Union on this one?

I thought the TaxPayers Union believed in transparency and accountability?

Or is that just on the piddling small stuff – not the BIG stuff that involves billion$ of taxpayers’ and ratepayers’ public monies?

Looks that way to me …….

Penny Bright
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October 16, 2014 11:04pm
Kea

“By all means make the point YOU wish to make, but take some advice from the Bible. Pro 26:4 “Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.”

Reid, yes good advice. I would probably get banned less, for telling the truth, if I took it. 🙂
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October 17, 2014 6:05am
Manolo

Sublime incompetence:
http://drudgereport.com/
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/obama-may-send-national-guard-liberia-fight-ebola-sources-n227336
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