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September 3, 2014 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 3 September 2014

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Southern Raider

Something strange is up.

Tonight’s 3 News poll didn’t seem to have any result for the Conservatives?
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September 3, 2014 7:56pm
All_on_Red

Penny
Ever heard of crowd sourcing? So Slater has friends. Big deal. Maybe you don’t- which would hardly surprise me you’re such a nutter.
God, can you imagine the conversation round your dinner table. I think I’d kill myself.
Too much spam Penny. Its tiresome and boring.
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September 3, 2014 7:56pm
Pete George

3 News/Reid Research tonight:

National: 46.4 percent (up 1.4 percent compared to August 19-25 poll)
Labour: 25.9 percent (down 0.5 percent)
NZ First: 5.8 percent (down 0.5 percent)
Greens: 12.6 percent (down 0.9 percent)
Conservative 4.2% down 0.4
ACT: 0.6 percent (up 0.3 percent)
United Future: 0.1 percent (down 0.3 percent)
Maori Party: 2 percent (up 1.3 percent)
Internet Mana: 1.7 percent (down 0.4 percent)

http://www.3news.co.nz/politics/key-could-need-maori-party-post-election-2014090318

Except yeah, no Conservative, but I think they were somewhere around 4?
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September 3, 2014 7:59pm
nasska

Southern Raider

Conservatives 2.5% (Down .02%)

http://www.3news.co.nz/politics/Decision14/3NewsReidResearchPoll
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September 3, 2014 8:01pm
Sublime

Southern Raider: Tonight’s 3 News poll didn’t seem to have any result for the Conservatives?

Was 3’s an RR poll? I think I read a Roy Morgan one during smoko today, had the Conservatives at 3.5%. I highly doubt it would’ve been a negligible number on whatever poll TV3 used … maybe the result didn’t suit the angle? The Conservatives do appear to be slowly but steadily climbing.
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September 3, 2014 8:01pm
Southern Raider

So how come the main item on the 3News website doesn’t mention Conservatives at all and you need to dig into a separate page to find them.

Still seems weird and agree maybe doesn’t align with angle they want
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September 3, 2014 8:04pm
Pete George

Conservatives are 4.2% down 0.4

From video http://www.3news.co.nz/politics/key-could-need-maori-party-post-election-2014090318
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September 3, 2014 8:05pm
Southern Raider

Why doesn’t National gift the conservatives a rural seat?

There is plenty of rich Christian farmers and less candidates to confuse things. For example Hauraki only has 3 candidates for the election
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September 3, 2014 8:07pm
Sublime

Southern Raider: Still seems weird and agree maybe doesn’t align with angle they want

Hehe – what I thought when just wrote the above post responding to you. Today Gower was carrying on about his new poll creating some sort of dilemma for Key. A slight Conservative movement certainly doesn’t fit that narrative 🙂
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September 3, 2014 8:07pm
Southern Raider

So Naaska and Pete both have 3News links with completely different numbers

I like Pete’s ones. 4.2% is still bloody close to the magic number. What a waste of potential right supporting seats if they miss the threshold
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September 3, 2014 8:09pm
nasska

….”Why doesn’t National gift the conservatives a rural seat?”…..

We rural dwellers need religious dipsticks in charge just like we need a plague of locusts! 🙂
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September 3, 2014 8:10pm
Southern Raider

Sometimes you just need to suck it up Naaska for the greater good.

Would you rural folks rather have Colin or Delahunty and Minto?
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September 3, 2014 8:11pm
Griff

Because the conservatives are a bunch of idiots that national rationally wants absolutely nothing to do with
its going to be interesting. I actually hope all the conservonutters waste their votes on Mr gargoyles midlife crisis party. The resulting confusion and disappointment should keep me in laughter for the next three years saving lots in pot.
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September 3, 2014 8:11pm
Kimbo

Did anyone see Paddy Gower pissing his trousers tonight saying, “Based on these poll results, John Key would have to rely on the Maori Party to pass legislation – a really messy result”?

I know journalists have to frame their stories as if Armageddon is coming, but maybe someone should point out to Gower…this has been the situation since 2008.
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September 3, 2014 8:13pm
Pete George

Here’s another poll running tonight on the minor leader’s debate on Campbell Live:

Minor parties debate Results
Who won tonight’s TV3 minor party leaders debate?

Winston Peters 5 %
Laila Harre 6 %
Metiria Turei 7 %
Peter Dunne 6 %
Jamie Whyte 8 %
Te Ururoa Flavell 5 %
Colin Craig 64 %
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/auckland/election/

I’m a wee bit dubious.
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September 3, 2014 8:13pm
goldnkiwi

I would be interested in the Green’s reaction if John Key put the idea to them, only if he didn’t need their numbers and after the election. Would they say yes or no?
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September 3, 2014 8:15pm
Southern Raider

Griff ever hear of the term useful idiots

Give Craig an associate minister position in something like women’s affairs and then just use him to get policies passed
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September 3, 2014 8:16pm
nasska

….”Would you rural folks rather have Colin or Delahunty and Minto?”….

That would need a coin toss to decide….anyway I doubt any Government that included Delahuntry or Minto would last a year before having to go to the polls again.
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September 3, 2014 8:16pm
Griff

Mr gargoyles bottom line is binding referendum.
hence a non starter for even woman’s affairs.
Better to chuck Mr peters a bauble for confidence and supply then pander to gargoyles jumped up bunch of moon bats.
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September 3, 2014 8:20pm
Southern Raider

An article on NewsTalk has about some protest march by Sky City union members today to promote early voting

They were chanting change the government and had labour and mana flags

How stupid are these people? National has backed the casino to create more jobs.

Mana wants to close it down and Labour make it unsustainable
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September 3, 2014 8:21pm
nasska

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b9q4jdnv28sn7c0/CCCP%2010.jpg?dl=0
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September 3, 2014 8:23pm
hj

Winston Rides The Worm On Land Sales

http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/5739-nz-election-reactor-week-5-201408220352?
Das iz good,yaa?
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September 3, 2014 8:25pm
stigie

“Colin Craig 64 %”

Shit Nasska, does this mean you might vote for the Greens ?
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September 3, 2014 8:35pm
Steve (North Shore)

D4J @ 3.35
“Steve what’s in that Dorkland water?”
It is just water D4J, but seeing as most of NZ lives in Auckland we get a high overall percentage of the silly ones – and they voted for Len fucking Brown
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September 3, 2014 8:38pm
nasska

Nah stigie. Thankfully I got off that hook when JK ruled out standing aside McCully in ECB.

I’ll stick with National.
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September 3, 2014 8:39pm
RF

Turtle Cunliffe is getting worse. Saw him on TV tonight. What a devious slimy bastard. No wonder he is hated by his own kind.

This phoney useless prick is beyond contempt.
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September 3, 2014 8:54pm
Sublime

DPF: Are you going to blog those dad4justice emails you mentioned last night?
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September 3, 2014 9:27pm
nasska

Sublime

DPF’s quoted comment was made on the same night of the actual meltdown about 18 months back.

He never released them….I think DPF took pity & realised that they might have embarrassed Dad too much. 🙂
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September 3, 2014 9:33pm
goldnkiwi

Can ‘we’ now get an explanation regarding politicians ‘nicknames now that they are revealed in the Herald? Clayton Cosgrove? Pluggie? Did I read that correctly? Big difference in my mind between being a plugger or a pluggie. I am sure there is a simple explanation, not that ‘we’ deserve one. lol
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September 4, 2014 4:15pm
lurcher1948

Great posts Penny as a poster that lives in another city,I wish you were on my political scene, but dont worry about the dickless insulters, farrars and slaters footsoldiers, not a cock to hang on to from these dickheads,rightwing wankers, penny one post is better than one post from……..
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