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Manolo

Really? Is Kea really a chick? Who would have guessed it? 🙂
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September 25, 2014 12:47pm
Griff

V2 climate change and the earths tilt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles
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September 25, 2014 12:48pm
Redbaiter

“They are two totally separate things.”

If there is some stupid false narrative being pushed to cover for the latest propaganda exposure than the indoctrinated loon Grief will be there kicking dust off a wet road in his haste to support it.
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September 25, 2014 12:50pm
Kea

“Kea ,Neo Nazism alive and well in Mother Russia today,”

Yes I know. It is very bad there.

Are you suggesting that is where the Ukraine got it from ?
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September 25, 2014 12:51pm
Kea

“More about the Genocide of Jews with full Muslim co-oparation in the Nazi protectorate of Bosnia-Hercegovina, 1941-1945 ,”

stupidboy, so you think the holocaust survivors are lying then ?

Along with: The perpetrators, the scholars, the holocaust researches, the first hand witnesses ….

http://bosniakandjewishfriendship.wordpress.com/2010/11/24/bosnian-muslims-protected-jews-in-yugoslavia-during-the-nazi-occupation-in-world-war-ii/

Yes Muslims did kill Jews at that time. However I question why you single out Muslims, when the main culprits were Catholics. They did it again in the 90’s too. The conflicts there are waaaay too complex for you to understand.
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September 25, 2014 12:56pm
Manolo

Griff, beware of the evil weed or your overindulging could transform you in a second Phil Ure (a very strong possibility.)
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September 25, 2014 12:57pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Yet another peer reviewed paper published that finds temperature sensitivity to CO2 is well below IPCC estimates:
http://niclewis.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/lewiscurry_ar5-energy-budget-climate-sensitivity_clim-dyn2014_accepted-reformatted-edited.pdf

They find transient climate CO2 sensitivity 1.33 °C per doubling, Equilibrium climate CO2 sensitivity 1.65°C per doubling. Compare with IPCC equilibrium estimates based on old papers of 3°C. Means we might get another 0.5-1°C of warming before fossil fuels run out/get sidelined (we have already seen about 0.7°C, though that was in part due to natural cycles that created little ice age.

So can we now redirect money wasted on this AGW fiasco to more useful causes that actually have some huge long term benefits to humanity like cheaper nuclear power and better batteries?
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September 25, 2014 1:08pm
Griff

Judith curry ?
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2014/08/ipcc-attribution-statements-redux-a-response-to-judith-curry/
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September 25, 2014 1:15pm
Kea

Belief in agw is most accurately predicted by political/social orientation and not by knowledge of science.

It has become a social marker for white middle class leftist pricks, to demonstrate how much more moral and caring they are than the ignorant peasants.

Like all fashions, it will change. Unlike the climate. 😆
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September 25, 2014 1:16pm
ross411

minus (176 comments) says:
September 25th, 2014 at 10:47 am
It is hard to understand that after several years there seems to be no one representative of the families, who day to day, doesn’t know the precise plan of re-entry, the exact progress made in executing it, and each goal involved, as well as the monitoring of the condition in the area concerned.

I don’t imagine they got a chance, with the angry mayor and John Campbell pout-raging their way all over it.

I wonder if there are any families who don’t really mind the bodies remaining in situ there, at rest, not being disturbed, who are not too keen on the pout-rage on their behalf?
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September 25, 2014 1:19pm
ross411

Tauhei Notts (1,686 comments) says:
September 25th, 2014 at 12:34 pm
Useless information about the redoubtable Penny.
A bloke from Kaukapakapa wagered several chocolate fish that Penny would fail in Helensville.
Well, being a boring psephologist, I saw that Kaukapakapa was Penny’s stronghold in that electorate. She got, get this, 2.25% of the vote there. She did even better in Helensville township with a whopping 2.31%.

It makes me wonder, if I lived near Penny, I’d vote for her, to send her off to Wellington so she could be inflicted on the politicians. Like a hen in the fox house, I imagine.
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September 25, 2014 1:23pm
Kea

Oh dear Lucy 🙁

[Check out Oleh Tyahnybok giving a funny salute at a rally. It seems familiar]

Neo-Nazis and far-right protesters in Ukraine

The far-right in Ukraine are acting as the vanguard of a protest movement that is being reported as pro-democracy. The situation on the ground is not as simple as pro-EU and trade versus pro-Putin and Russian hegemony in the region.

When US Senator John McCain dined with Ukraine’s opposition leaders in December, he shared a table and later a stage with the leader of the extreme far-right Svoboda party Oleh Tyahnybok.

This is Oleh Tyahnybok, he has claimed a “Moscow-Jewish mafia” rule Ukraine and that “Germans, Kikes and other scum” want to “take away our Ukrainian state.”

https://libcom.org/news/neo-nazis-far-right-protesters-ukraine-23012014

It demonstrates how prone to propaganda some people are. We have avid supporters of Israel and the Jewish people voicing support for these people. Don’t just hurl abuse at me… go take a look for yourself at the link.

This is what you are supporting. Are you comfortable with that ?
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September 25, 2014 1:28pm
stephieboy

Kea, you’ll loved to to know that lib.com is right into combating climate denailsm,

https://libcom.org/blog/climate-populism-people’s-climate-march-10092014

Your link re John Mc Cain and Ukrainian Ultra Nationalism is actually rather disingenuous and sly with pictures of Mc Cain and protestors as though he was nodding approvingly and aware of them giving out handshakes

As I’ve pointed out before the same kind of Ultra Nationalism is a feature of Russian life today .

A reminder ,

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jan/25/russia-nationalists-far-right-jego

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19434795

Your seriously, seriously deluded if this phenomena is confined and peculiar to the Ukraine . But don’t expect the Kremlin controlled RT and V of R to expand on this for your benefit.
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September 25, 2014 2:00pm
Kea

Obergruppenführer stupidboy, as long as you are comfortable with it.

I am not.
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September 25, 2014 2:07pm
Kea

“rather disingenuous and sly with pictures”

Just to clarify: Are the “sly” pictures the ones with him at the podium with US politician, or the ones where he is giving the NAZI Salute at a rally ?

Will you now stop being critical of Hamas, because ISIS is bad too ? Or is this another example of special pleading and intellectual dishonesty ? (I condemn all neo NAZI, so I know it confuses you terribly)

PS: Please try and answer at least one question today honestly. Baby steps …
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September 25, 2014 2:23pm
stephieboy

birdbrain Lt Colonel ( aka Putin ex KGB ) , good and so long as keep up with a regular delusional check.!

Thats fine by me.
Mc Cain giving the Nazi salute. ?

Fatuous and absolute nonsense.!
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September 25, 2014 2:25pm
EAD

Excellent article on the climate change propaganda:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/climate-science-is-it-currently-designed-to-answer-questions/16330

This article shows how political bodies act to control scientific institutions, how scientists adjust both data and even theory to accommodate politically correct positions, and how opposition to these positions is disposed of.

Like just about all issues these days, what it comes down to is left wing media and politicos pushing their insane and destructive theories on the population who generally see straight through it (except the useful idiots)
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September 25, 2014 2:34pm
Kea

stupidboy, where did I say McCain ? And why no answer ?

You are liar and the least honest person on this blog.

You better hope no one looks at that link and learns what sort of person you really are and what you will defend in the name of a black president.
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September 25, 2014 2:37pm
stephieboy

The alleged Nazi salute by John Mc Cain,

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2524179/John-McCain-tells-Ukraine-protesters-We-support-just-cause.html

What a joke.!
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September 25, 2014 2:38pm
Kea

It would be a joke if I said it.

You really are disgusting. But you are outed now.

You are willing to lend support to neo NAZI in order to protect a black president. You were born in the wrong era, Germany 1930 is more your thing.
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September 25, 2014 2:47pm
stephieboy

EAD , which is your favorite Global Warming Conspiracy Theory.?

A plot by the UM to control the US and the World.?

A plot be Jacques Chirac and the Bilderberg group to control the world?

A commie plot.?

A plot by left Wingers and Progs to destroy the Industrial World>?

etc, etc , etc

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Global_warming_conspiracy_theory

“There actually is a conspiracy surrounding climate change, and it’s not what you’ll hear from most conspiracy theorists: between 2003 and 2010, more than $7 billion were spent by conservative billionaires to fund anti-AGW organizations such as the Heritage Foundation, the Heartland Institute, and the Competitive Enterprise Institute.[22] Follow the money, indeed.”
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September 25, 2014 2:47pm
Left Right and Centre

Climate change debate and religious debate.

Kea – you’re like Nazi Germany – you fight everything on every possible front !! I love it. You might have more chance though.
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September 25, 2014 3:05pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Griff; realclimate has the same credibility on AGW and same approach to dissent that the Standard has for left wing politics. It is a propeganda outlet for AGW zealots (with consequently collapsing readership). They will have as much balance in their assessment of Judith Curry as the Martin Bradbury will on John Key.
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September 25, 2014 3:08pm
kowtow

Obummers cafe salute.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlJw8G3520Q
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September 25, 2014 3:10pm
Lucia Maria

Some very interesting background, including a staged a far-right rally in Kiyv complete with Nazi salutes: Pro-Russian network behind the anti-Ukrainian defamation campaign

Note the websites listed in the article that picked this same sort of rubbish up almost immediately, including the often quoted Global Research CA.
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September 25, 2014 3:15pm
Kea

LRC, just busy sharing facts.

margaritas ante porcos
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September 25, 2014 3:21pm
IGM

Are Public Dog and Judith on a binge with Corkery? None of the deadbeats seem to be around; maybe they are having a horror head contest . . . hard to pick a winner!
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September 25, 2014 3:29pm
Left Right and Centre

Kea – you know everything. Jan Logie says something like a child each week dies from ‘poverty related causes’.

Is that true or not ? What source does she cite ? Credible or not ?

(I’m not clever enough to find out by looking on the Green site without also being converted).
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September 25, 2014 3:32pm
Kea

LRC, I know bugger all. There are two types of people.

1. Look it up.

2. Make it up.
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September 25, 2014 3:35pm
Kea

“Kea – you know everything. Jan Logie says something like a child each week dies from ‘poverty related causes’.

Is that true or not ? What source does she cite ? Credible or not ?”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApX7nVZDFvk#t=87
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September 25, 2014 3:47pm
Jack5

If Kea takes a break from mountain climbing for a night off in Queenstown, and gets pissed, then a taxi driver might be in for something that makes the policewoman’s leer-up seem like a mild front-door chat with a meek Jehovah’s Witness.

Kea sees Nazis everywhere and a tanked-up Kea will be running rolling Nuremberg trials non-stop until she’s back in the mountains.
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September 25, 2014 4:04pm
Andrei

Next thing Lucia Maria will be telling us is that Ukraine is a Catholic country

At its greatest extent the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth reached the Dniepr river, about half of modern Ukraine – Bogdan Khmelnitsky kicked them out in 1649 that would be 365 years ago, get over it.
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September 25, 2014 4:05pm
Ross12

So they want Cunliffe gone and Robertson is the most likely replacement ?? Labour just don’t get it –in my view Robertson would be worse than Cunliffe

https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/25102680/senior-mps-want-cunliffe-to-quit/
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September 25, 2014 4:09pm
Kea

Kea sees Nazis everywhere and a tanked-up Kea will be running rolling Nuremberg trials non-stop until she’s back in the mountains.

Good one Jackboot 😆

I am up in the mountains tomorrow. Griff assures me the weather will be warm 😯
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September 25, 2014 4:12pm
Griff

rbanNeocolonialist (284 comments) says:
September 25th, 2014 at 3:08 pm

Griff; realclimate has the same credibility on AGW and same approach to dissent that the Standard has for left wing politics. It is a propeganda outlet for AGW zealots (with consequently collapsing readership). They will have as much balance in their assessment of Judith Curry as the Martin Bradbury will on John Key.

😆
read the comment there is more actual scientist commenting on that one post than scientists commenting on every denial blog in the world in a year.
Readership: science is not a popularity contest for readership among the public its science I posted that for people who have a clue not a bunch of idiotic conspiracy theorist who read WUWT

IE from the comments

Here’s the problem:

> Gavin isn’t quite writing for the public, but for a rather select subset,
> largely with strong scientific credentials and well-versed in the topic.
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September 25, 2014 4:14pm
Jack5

Good climbing Kea.

And remember if you get into a tricky position above the snowline, it’s okay to pray for help. No atheists will overhear and tell Kiwibloggers.
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September 25, 2014 4:17pm
Griff

EAD (972 comments) says:
September 25th, 2014 at 2:34 pm
for instance EAD quotes a guy who was once considered a scientist

😆
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lindzen

Lindzen has given estimates of the Earth’s climate sensitivity to be 0.5 °C based on ERBE data.[50] These estimates were criticized by other researchers,[51] and Lindzen accepted that his paper included “some stupid mistakes”. When interviewed, he said “It was just embarrassing”, and added that “The technical details of satellite measurements are really sort of grotesque.” Lindzen and Choi revised their paper and submitted it to PNAS.[52] The four reviewers of the paper, two of whom had been selected by Lindzen, strongly criticized the paper and PNAS rejected it for publication.

and wing nuts like EAD lap up his crapola
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September 25, 2014 4:26pm
stephieboy

Lucia Maria at 3.15 pm,

Thank you for that link and how Conspiracy Theorists like Michel Chossudovsky (Centre for Research on Globalization, Geopolitica), John Laughland and Daniel Mc Adams ( Ron Paul ) etc , etc and there close associations with RT and Voice of Russia. Polemicists and Propagandists like them would work very comfortably in the Newspeak world of the mentioned Putin and Kremlin controlled Media agencies.

Interesting also how Voice of Russia is linked to the French Pro Russia TV which in turn is linked to the French far right National Front .Again how far Right National Front leader Marine Le Pen received a warm welcome by various Russian officials . Much more as well about the Euro far right and pro Russian leanings and the attempts to defame and denigrate the Ukraine.
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September 25, 2014 4:37pm
Kea

“it’s okay to pray for help. No atheists will overhear and tell Kiwibloggers.”

jackboot, climbing after Chamois I have often thought my atheist views were about to be tested by first hand experience. There is nothing like the rush of coming down a scree slope, with a Chammy buck in the bag, after a near death crawl through the bluffs 🙂
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September 25, 2014 4:37pm
stephieboy

kea, can you confirm whether your a boy or a girl.?

Why the ongoing controversy about your gender identity.?
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September 25, 2014 4:40pm
Jack5

The Hooerald web site report has varied during the day on the mother of six who suffered a fractured skull when she intervened when a 17-year-old snatched another woman’s bag.

At 11.55:

The 43-year-old mother of six suffered a fractured skull when a 17-year-old youth allegedly hit her when she intervened during a bag snatch …

At 12.57:

Lucy Knight, 43, underwent surgery this week to relieve bleeding on her brain that started after she tried to thwart a youth allegedly snatching a handbag from a woman at Countdown in Northcote on Tuesday.
She fell and fractured her skull in the incident, which happened in front of her young children.

Perhaps the defence will be that it was an accident.
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September 25, 2014 4:43pm
Kea

“kea, can you confirm whether your a boy or a girl.?”

It is all academic at the moment, as I am not getting any !
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September 25, 2014 4:50pm
ross411

Left Right and Centre (2,960 comments) says:
September 25th, 2014 at 3:32 pm
Kea – you know everything. Jan Logie says something like a child each week dies from ‘poverty related causes’.

I wondered that myself, watching question time, when she trotted it out.

It’s interesting. If Logie really cared about what she asked Bennett in Kea’s video, she would have worked with National, addressed those things with Bennett, and then come back and addressed her misgivings in question time. Instead, it was the less effective act of being seen to ask them publically.
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September 25, 2014 4:50pm
ross411

Kea (12,179 comments) says:
September 25th, 2014 at 4:50 pm
“kea, can you confirm whether your a boy or a girl.?”

It is all academic at the moment, as I am not getting any !

Just as well this isn’t a Green blog, as there would be outrage at the selection presented. 😯
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September 25, 2014 4:55pm
srylands

Confirmation that The Guardian is a waste of space.

“New Zealand elections: dirty tricks helped John Key win another term” Nicky Hager

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/24/new-zealand-elections-dirty-tricks-helped-john-key-win-another-term
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September 25, 2014 5:17pm
Griff

stephie boy ?
one could ask the same question about you.
Not that I give a small piece of rodent shit ever way .
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September 25, 2014 5:21pm
nasska

https://www.dropbox.com/s/oo4l1mw0jc95nue/Message.jpg?dl=0
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September 25, 2014 5:34pm
stephieboy

Snowden honored with ‘alternative Nobel’

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11330999

Naturally Putin’s RT is ecstatic . I wonder when Snowden will give his much needed attention to Russia’s answer to the NSA on his way to Nobel Prize fame,>

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinion/article/nsa-is-no-match-for-the-fsb/481913.html
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September 25, 2014 5:38pm
Kea

stupidboy hates the Russians, just like sein Führer.
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September 25, 2014 5:41pm
stephieboy

kea, our closeted Neo Stalinist..!
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September 25, 2014 5:42pm
Kea

stupidboy, It is you supporting the annexation of the Crimea under the USSR. Decades after its collapse, while calling for its domination under a neo Nazi regime.
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September 25, 2014 5:47pm
Kea

stupidboy, I note your sudden interest in the Nobel Peace Prize.

Perhaps you can tell readers why your idol Obama got his Peace Prize ?

“The transfer of Crimea in 1954 was an administrative action of the Supreme Soviet which transferred the government of most of the Crimean peninsula from the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic to the Ukrainian SSR.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_transfer_of_Crimea
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September 25, 2014 5:49pm
Kea

Q: Kea, do followers of the Jewish religion have a right to return to land they claim their ancient ancestors occupied thousands of years ago based on the religious fables they wrote and invent a new country called Israel?

A: Stupidboy: You anti semite Jew hating Nazi Kea !!!! Of course they do. It is their home.

Q: Do ethnic Russians living on Russian land have a right to be part of Russia ?

A: You communist supporting pig Kea !!! NO. If you do not support the land annexation by the Supreme Soviet which transferred the government of most of the Crimean peninsula from the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic to the Ukrainian SSR.” Then you must support Stalin [sic] You Stalin supporting Neo Nazi, who hates Nazis, but supports them while supporting communists while opposing them Kea.
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September 25, 2014 6:02pm
stephieboy

kea, Madam your obviously unwell.

See your Doctor as a matter of urgency.!
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September 25, 2014 6:03pm
stigie

Stiffie and Kea need to get a room !!
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September 25, 2014 6:04pm
Belinda

Gosh poor old Charlie is in trouble now for hoping his next grandchild is a girl, is Shelley Bridgeman another feminazi?
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11331264
Soon I might have to do a Cunliffe and apologise for being a woman
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September 25, 2014 6:06pm
Kea

stigie, it seems like someone got there first. He is already f*&ked ! 🙄

stupidboy can see NO NEO-NAZI’s in these photos. Not a thing !

https://libcom.org/news/neo-nazis-far-right-protesters-ukraine-23012014
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September 25, 2014 6:06pm
Kea

Belinda, apology accepted 😉
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September 25, 2014 6:10pm
Kea

Pictures of Ukrainian ~~neo~~ not Nazis.

http://candobetter.net/files/UkrainianNeoNazis_feb14-s.png

http://rashmanly.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/neo_nazi_photo_by_themistrunsred-d56270c.jpg?w=450&h=330

Now who is that American guy and his friend ?

https://www.indybay.org/uploads/2014/01/26/mccain_1.jpg

And the American’s friend at another “function”

http://real-agenda.com//wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Untitled-1-685×300.png

[This is Oleh Tyahnybok, he has claimed a “Moscow-Jewish mafia” rule Ukraine and that “Germans, Kikes and other scum” want to “take away our Ukrainian state.”] But he is not a neo Nazi either.
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September 25, 2014 6:21pm
Griff

😆
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Es5cAK9b0Oo
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September 25, 2014 6:24pm
Lucia Maria

[This is Oleh Tyahnybok, he has claimed a “Moscow-Jewish mafia” rule Ukraine and that “Germans, Kikes and other scum” want to “take away our Ukrainian state.”] But he is not a neo Nazi either.

Oleh was a contender for the Ukrainian Presidential Elections this year. He got a tiny 1.16% of the vote. The other far right contender got 0.70% of the vote. (source). You’d think if Ukraine was Nazi, one of these guys would be the President right now… and yet, they are not.

From Forbes: Ukraine Election Results Discredit Kremlin Propaganda

Election Results an Embarrassment for the Far Right

The supposed reservoirs of reactionary thinking in western Ukraine generated an embarrassing 1% of the vote for Oleh Tyagnibok of ultra-nationalist Svoboda Party and less than 1% for Dmitry Yarosh of the new Right Sector party that sprung up during the protests.

A story run by the Jewish Telegraphic Agency notes that Tyagnibok and Yarosh together received fewer votes than Vadim Rabinovich, a Jewish candidate who captured a little over 2% of the ballots. In addition,

Alexander Levin, president of the Jewish Community of Kiev, wrote on Facebook that Tyagnybok and Yarosh’s failure to match Rabinovich “showed that in Ukraine, there is no policy of-Semitism, period.”
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September 25, 2014 6:38pm
Kea

Guten Abend Frau SS Sturmbannführer Lucy.

Thank you for correcting me. I do not know who spreads these terrible lies about the glorious Fatherland. Do you think it may be the Jews ?

Pope Pius XII and the Holocaust

by Shira Schoenberg [ from http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/pius.html#N_13_%5D

The deniers of the Catholic Church’s complicity in the holocaust are so numerous that there is barely a Roman Catholic in a million, no matter how educated, who is even aware of the atrocities perpetrated in the Roman Catholic country of Croatia in the name and under the leadership of their own Catholic hierarchy, and with the full knowledge and approval of their “Holy See” during World War II.
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September 25, 2014 6:49pm
Lucia Maria

Stephieboy,

You’re welcome.

The only part of that site that I don’t agree with (that I’ve found so far) is considering some US Christian Family organisations to be “hate-groups”. He may not have studied them in detail – only their connections to Russia, and so may have leapt to conclusions, thinking them to be like far right groups.
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September 25, 2014 6:50pm
Lucia Maria

A recommendation Kea. Available on Kindle

Disinformation: Former Spy Chief Reveals Secret Strategies for Undermining Freedom, Attacking Religion, and Promoting Terrorism

It goes into detail on how Pius XII was framed after his death (because dead men can’t defend themselves). Not that anyone believed it back then and those who had lived through WWII were very aware of his record. But ya know, people now will believe anything, especially a potential evil pope. I can’t believe you are trying it on me.

Actually, you are doing the same thing to me – trying to frame me as a Nazi. Maybe you do know about what’s in the book …
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September 25, 2014 6:55pm
nasska

I may have employed one “worker” who’s thicker than this bloke but even then he’d come a close second. 🙂

Ref: http://www.lolbrary.com/Funny/Walmart-employee-shoveling-snow/63680
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September 25, 2014 7:14pm
Kea

Lucy, Then you may want to email the – Jewish Virtual Library – and express your concerns. You also repeatedly question the official version of the holocaust. You should contact my sources. They always welcome hearing from revisionists who think the Jews are lying.

Let us know how you get on….

Simon Wiesenthal Center

1399 South Roxbury Drive
Los Angeles, California 90035
310 553.9036
800 900.9036 (toll-free from within the U.S.)
310 553.4521 (fax)
information@wiesenthal.com
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September 25, 2014 7:16pm
Kea

Lucia Maria (2,294 comments) says:
September 25th, 2014 at 6:55 pm
A recommendation ~~Kea.~~ Lucy Available on Kindle

Disinformation: Former Spy Chief Reveals Secret Strategies for Undermining Freedom, Attacking Religion, and Promoting Terrorism

It goes into detail on how ~~Pius XII~~Hitler was framed after his death (because dead men can’t defend themselves).

[ Lucy, I applied your principle to see how it looked. I just changed the names. Changing Pius for Hitler was pretty much the same as both are accused of the holocaust by researchers and witnesses.]
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September 25, 2014 7:24pm
Tauhei Notts

Nasska at 7.14
It was a pleasure to see the video that you linked to. It makes me feel better.
Some years ago I employed a Masters of Commerce from a university in south western India.
He ended up plucking chickens at Wairakau Road.
I was mentioned in Hansard following my complaint about;
“How the hell did our immigration service let that dickwit into our country?”
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September 25, 2014 7:30pm
ross411

Stuff Rosemary McCloud column has comments enabled now.

Bam, the most upvoted comment I’ve found so far in the thread:

Smollie (+24)
Why didn’t labour eradicate child poverty during 9 years of some of the best economic times NZ has enjoyed? Back then people in poverty were described by Helen Clark as ‘rogue ferals’. Where was this howling mob of lefties demanding action back then! These holier than thou hypocrites didn’t say boo, as their tribe was running the show. That’s all they want – Labour running the cutter & they can sleep soundly in their beds in this delusion that everything is right with the world.

How dare someone question Labour? Questioning Labour = Scab = National vote, I guess. Or.. someone pointing out her stupidity, esp. with the pity Labour vote. Ambiguous.

bobnb (+1):
You never voted National? Sounds like you just did in this article.

State, the obvious:

Voice9 (+20)
Labour has forgotten that an opposition party is meant be to opposition against the opposing party (National lead coalition), not opposition within their own party. For 3 years NZ watched a divided Labour party concentrate on Leadership battles and opposition within their own party, while the opposition got on with running the country.

Labour did not get this and NZ does not reward stupidity, thus their low poll ratings and turn out at the election. And if Labour hadn’t noticed, the opposition party (National) are playing by different rules, they listen to the public, and they are more adaptable and responsive to change – very much in a corporate way.

Innovate or remain in opposition until you learn Labour – that is the message. You have been out-smarted, out-witted and out-played by the opposition and until you wake up, you are going to remain in opposition.

Labour voters can’t understand how the voting public is wrong and are acting out:

County (+22)
The worst thing about this was some of the malicious criticism directed towards the voting public of New Zealand on some of these pages. In the end the Voters got it right. Labour is in a shambles and there is no way that a coalition with the Greens and other parties was going to somehow morph into a stable Government.

Labour politicians are self-serving:

Si29 (+14)
Thank you for this article. I do take issue though with your last paragraph…. “I’ve had enough of the narcissism of bloggers who get stuck on the idea that what they think and do really matters to most New Zealanders”

I’ve, frankly, had enough of labour party politicians who are stuck on the idea that they know what matter to NZers, because it’s clear that they don’t and they should stop telling people what to think and do.

Zing!:

damnright (+16)
Labour asked voters to vote positive, and they did.
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September 25, 2014 7:59pm
nasska

In a new sex survey they found that 18 percent of people
had sex four or more times a week.

Now here is the interesting part. That number drops to
3 percent when you add the phrase, “With a partner.”
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September 25, 2014 8:13pm
ross411

nasska (11,213 comments) says:
September 25th, 2014 at 8:13 pm
Now here is the interesting part. That number drops to
3 percent when you add the phrase, “With a partner.”

Rosie Hand doesn’t count?
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September 25, 2014 8:20pm
nasska

Nor her daughters Ross. 🙂
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September 25, 2014 8:21pm
Harriet

“…..Now here is the interesting part. That number drops to
3 percent when you add the phrase, “With a partner.”…”

If sodomy is now ‘sex’ Nasska, then so too is masterbation.

Infact, it now doesn’t matter where you orgasim – as it will be described as ‘an act of love’ by some nutters.

I’m sticking with Biblical Truth as it makes far more sense.
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September 25, 2014 8:23pm
nasska

A bit of a stretch to link a wank with one up the arse Harriet but you just about got there. Anyway, a bit of good news:

Although you’ve been told that masturbation is a mortal sin, it’s yours & you can wash it as fast as you like. 🙂
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September 25, 2014 8:29pm
Kea

I’m sticking with Biblical Truth as it makes far more sense.

“He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord.”(Deuteronomy 23:1)
😯
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September 25, 2014 8:29pm
Griff

Harryit wanking about homos and sex
how unusual
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September 25, 2014 8:29pm
Kea

I’m sticking with Biblical Truth as it makes far more sense.

Psalm 137:9 English Standard Version

Blessed shall he be who takes your little ones and dashes them against the rock! 😕
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September 25, 2014 8:40pm
ross411

Harriet (4,806 comments) says:
September 25th, 2014 at 8:23 pm
“…..Now here is the interesting part. That number drops to
3 percent when you add the phrase, “With a partner.”…”

If sodomy is now ‘sex’ Nasska, then so too is masterbation.

Infact, it now doesn’t matter where you orgasim – as it will be described as ‘an act of love’ by some nutters.

I’m sticking with Biblical Truth as it makes far more sense.

I’ve had enough devil worshipping text from you woman. Know your place! 😯

“Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.” Timothy 2:11
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September 25, 2014 8:41pm
nasska

But Harriet is a male Ross…..or at least pretty close to one. He told us a couple of years back that he used the pseudonym to gauge if people reacted differently to a female than a male then couldn’t change his user name. Of course we all saw through the story & it has since emerged that he is a long term pre-op cross dresser.

As cover he becomes more & more rabid preaching about the evils of homosexuality & anal sex. Hopefully he’ll go & get a job soon & stop stalking boys on line. 🙂
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September 25, 2014 8:49pm
Kea

Harriet, when I was lawfully married to my wife, we use to get right into that SODOMY thing.

Will we burn in hell for eternity ?

PS: It was worth it 😆
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September 25, 2014 8:52pm
nasska

Sorry Kea but you’re a sitter to spend your next life spit roasting in Hell.

Unless, you want to take advantage of my new on line business. http://www.indulgencesrus.com

All major credit cards accepted. 🙂
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September 25, 2014 9:00pm
goldnkiwi

Well done down in Pike river for not politicising the foray into the mine. God, imagine the hoopla if it had been signalled, let alone with it having been effected during the election campaign and how that would have been portrayed.
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September 25, 2014 9:05pm
Kea

“Sorry Kea but you’re a sitter to spend your next life spit roasting in Hell.”

nasska, Thanks for the offer but I am not into threesomes 😉

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spit+roast
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September 25, 2014 9:07pm
Distilled essence of NZ

The modern banking system manufactures money out of nothing. The process is perhaps the most astounding piece of sleight of hand that was ever invented. Banking was conceived in inequity and born in sin . . . Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them but leave them the power to create money, and, with a flick of a pen, they will create enough money to buy it back again . . . Take this great power away from them, and all great fortunes like mine will disappear, for then this would be a better and happier world to live in. . . . But, if you want to continue to be the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let bankers continue to create money and control credit.

– Sir Josiah Stamp, Director of the Bank of England, 1927
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September 26, 2014 12:35am
Fight Communism

Whoever is poisoning the minds of young Australian men with this hatred needs to be neutralised very quickly, or terrorism is going to rear its ugly head far too close to home.

YOU ARE KIDDING RIGHT

YOUR FARKEN JUSTICE SYSTEM ALLOWS ISLAMIC SCUM TO RAPE AND SEXUALLY ASSAULT PEOPLE

IN NEW ZEALAND

AND THEN GIVES THE CRIMINAL NAME FARKEN SUPPRESSION

YOU COWARDS LIARS AND TRAITORS HAD BETTER HURRY UP

AND CHANGE YOUR FLAG

JUST PUT A WHITE FEATHER ON IT

AND

FOR SALE

AND WAVE IT

AS YOU PREPARE MORE OF NZ TO BE SOLD TO YOUR NEW COMMUNIST SLAVE MASTERS
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September 26, 2014 12:52am
Fight Communism

CHANGE YOUR FLAG
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September 26, 2014 12:55am
eszett

Change your keyboard.
Your CAPS lock is stuck.
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September 26, 2014 2:21am
Kea

Fight Communism (23 comments) says:
September 26th, 2014 at 12:52 am

I did not know Redbaiter had a younger brother.

He seems a bit confused, given that communism promotes atheism and Islamic scum tend to have some [cough] unsympathetic views about us atheists.

Anyway, I for one welcome our new overlords. 🙂
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September 26, 2014 4:18am
Viking2

It appears that Domainz and Internet NZ are about to rip off your domain name.
If you own a domain name xxx.co.nz and have for a longtime you are about to have Domainz allow anyone to copy your name .nz and conflict you domain name.
You have only one choice, be first to buy the extra name of get shafted.

If you own a domain then watch out as you will have no prior rights nor it seems will you be covered by Trademark.

Its a blatant extortion attempt as the process conflicts with the process adopted in the UK which is much fairer.

For reasons of fairness, where there is more than one Registrant competing for a .nz domain name to be registered directly at the second level the Domain Name Commission does not believe preference could be given to the oldest registration.

“Similarly, the Domain Name Commission does not believe one second level should have preference over any other. For example, the registrant of anyname.co.nz should not be treated differently to the Registrant of anyname.school.nz.”

So there you go, the two most logical tests of fairness for the right to the .nz dismissed as unfair by the Domain Commission: the age, who was first to register, which is the universally accepted fairness test in trademark law, or the fairness for the greatest number as in the .uk example. Remember that with co.nz it is quite probably one and the same.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/61490980/a-domain-by-any-other-name.html
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