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September 19, 2014 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 19 September 2014

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stephieboy

“The prime minister and media should stop legitimising the terror group rampaging through Syria and Iraq by describing it as Islamic State, according to a coalition of imams and organisations representing British Muslims. Use of the jihadis’ preferred title, they argue, gives credibility to the Sunni militants and slurs the Islamic faith.

Signatories to a letter to David Cameron, including Sughra Ahmed, president of the Islamic Society of Britain, admit that UK Muslims need to do more to dissuade their young men from being misled into taking part in the group’s “hatred and poison”. “We shall take every opportunity to continue to say clearly and loudly ‘not in our name’ and ‘not for our faith,’ “…

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/13/term-islamic-state-slur-faith-david-cameron
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September 19, 2014 4:48pm
nasska

Don’t risk police intervention or a criminal record when you beat the Devil out of your kids.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/oxd24ssoklyv3n8/Conservonutter%2018.jpg?dl=0

Vote Conservative!
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September 19, 2014 4:51pm
kowtow

I rarely find mself in agreement with Gwynne Dyer ,but on Obummer and the FSA he’s spot on.

http://www.straight.com/news/732511/gwynne-dyer-isis-and-coalition-unwilling
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September 19, 2014 5:05pm
Reid

They will inevitably lose support on the day as many of their supporters will vote tactically to make their vote count.

They had a chance of getting in before someone sabotaged them. That someone being the Press Secretary. Who won’t talk to them. That sound normal? Any chance she was offered something too good to refuse to do what she did? Who might have had an interest in doing that?

Those are real questions, since if anyone can’t think, resigning from that role after 3 years without complaint 2 days before with no chance to recover, says a whole hell of a lot about it not just being a coincidence or someone whose just simply “had it” which is what of course what we’re supposed to believe.

And notice of course the fearless media aren’t mentioning that aspect at all, when they talk about it. Of course.
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September 19, 2014 5:20pm
starboard

Vote for a stable Government , vote for no separatism and the banning of skin colour favouritism. Vote for tough on scum criminals and vote for less taxes.

You must vote 2 ticks for Conservatives.
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September 19, 2014 5:31pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

The rights or wrongs of the manoeuvring with regard to Cons are irrelevant. They are not going to make 5% so don’t waste votes that are essential to formation of a centre-right govt.

But leaving that aside at no point before (or since) the ex Press Secretary’s dirty little trick did cons poll above 5%, they were dead before that final shot was even fired.
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September 19, 2014 5:43pm
Reid

leaving that aside at no point before (or since) the ex Press Secretary’s dirty little trick did cons poll above 5%, they were dead before that final shot was even fired.

No they weren’t you fool they were within 0.1% of getting in and becoming AN ALTERNATIVE PARTNER FOR NATIONAL INSTEAD OF WINSTON. WHAT ABOUT THAT BEING A VERY GOOD THING INDEED COMPARED TO THE ALTERNATIVE, DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND?

I thought I’d better capitalise it because you seem a bit dim.
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September 19, 2014 5:46pm
stephieboy

kowtow, you might be thrilled by Dyer and his criticisms of Obama and ISIS but you will be delirious about his warnings of the real menace of climate change ,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Vd7TqbyWQ
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September 19, 2014 5:54pm
goldnkiwi

Yes, funny how Winston is using the ‘manipulative word all the time now when talking about Colin Craig.
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September 19, 2014 6:21pm
Reid

funny how Winston is using the ‘manipulative word all the time now when talking about Colin Craig.

The oldest propaganda technique in the book: accuse your opponent of that which you are most guilty: e.g. “cancerous and corrosive,” “Dirty Politics,” “manipulative.” To name but a very very few.
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September 19, 2014 6:27pm
ross411

goldnkiwi (1,256 comments) says:
September 19th, 2014 at 6:21 pm
Yes, funny how Winston is using the ‘manipulative word all the time now when talking about Colin Craig.

To me, really being manipulative, would be having a partner who worked for a pharmaceutical company and had a product they wanted adopted by the government. Then standing up in parliament and pushing to have that product adopted, and having his fellow party members also hawk it.

That’s some Penny Bright level shit, right there. Manipulative Winston First.
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September 19, 2014 6:29pm
nasska

,,,,”WHAT ABOUT THAT BEING A VERY GOOD THING INDEED COMPARED TO THE ALTERNATIVE, DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND?”…..

Crikey Reid…..where to start?

Without Colin:

1) There won’t be flaky populist rule by referenda.

2) Hundreds, if not thousands, of defenceless children won’t be maimed and/or emotionally crippled by having God beaten into them via rod/jug cord/length of alkathene/ horse whip.

3) Duty on the tipple of your choice won’t rise by 400%+.

4) The state won’t intrude into our lives worse than if Hone & Metira were running the show.

Isn’t that enough?
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September 19, 2014 6:29pm
Reid

Crikey nasska, where to start?

Winston vs Colin. Which do you prefer?

There isn’t a third alternative.

What about this don’t you understand?

BTW, I’m not a massive fan of Colin either.

But thanks to the media’s behaviour during this campaign, it’s him or Winston.

Isn’t it.

Most people out there who have the same number of votes we do haven’t yet learned to distinguish the reality which in fact exists from that fantasy which they would prefer existed.

Like children, they can’t tell the difference and they behave accordingly not even knowing what it is they are doing.

We don’t have to do that and frankly, I never have ever since I became an adult.
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September 19, 2014 6:48pm
Yvette

Over on Whaleoil, a Green “supporter” was condemned because when asked, he forgot to tell people is that his actual job is Research Services Manager at Simpson Grierson, the law firm representing Kim Dotcom – although they may have some other clients.

However, regardless of all that shit, what Christopher Owen had simply asked was –
“Is a vote for New Zealand First, a vote to change the Government?

A simple question.

But under MMP, Winston’s idea of what you need to do is: vote for him, Winston, and then he will complete the process for you – decide what HE wants to do with your vote.
Give your vote on the day to a minor someone, whose party may achieve 6 – 10%, so he can decide [a second vote, sometime after the Election] the future of the majority, who may be around 48%.

It’s only a little bit manipulative … which is why Winston is so emphatic others are manipulative 🙂

No, I’ll do it all myself, thank you.
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September 19, 2014 6:51pm
smttc

I see Colin Craig spending a large chunk of cash during One News tonight. Probably his best ads too.
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September 19, 2014 6:57pm
nasska

….”Winston vs Colin. Which do you prefer?”….

Like you I’m not a great fan of Winston but I’d still pick him over Colin Craig.

The other day there was a questionnaire on one of these forums which set out 35 things that Craig backed or at least approved of. I could only agree with three!

Additionally I (& I suspect a few others) place some trust in what we hear or see or touch but at a gut level we go with people we can identify with. John Key has this quality in spades, Winston’s got it too but I cannot connect with Colin on any level.

Winston it is.
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September 19, 2014 7:01pm
Griff

Same here whinny is a cock but never trust a weasel
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September 19, 2014 7:11pm
nasska

https://www.dropbox.com/s/oickvvzbhj9au86/Conservonutter%2017.jpg?dl=0
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September 19, 2014 7:14pm
Reid

Like you I’m not a great fan of Winston but I’d still pick him over Colin Craig.

Well nasska, you and I differ and I have to say IMO your judgement on this is appalling.

at a gut level we go with people we can identify with

I don’t when assessing politicians. Of course I do with my friends. But when assessing politicians I go with people I assess as being worthy of supporting and I don’t give a fuck if I “identify” with them or not since that has nothing to do with their capacity to perform the task in question.

For instance I support Annette Sykes even though she stands for everything I abhor because I think she’s going to be bloody good for her support base and she will become a significant beneficial force in Maoridom and I support Tama Iti for the same reason. But I don’t identify with anything those two have in anyway and I certainly don’t support the racist mofo Hone and I hope he crashes and burns because he undermines Maoridom in a huge way.

I agree that many do feel the need to identify nasska, but I don’t and I never have because I think it introduces emotion into what should be an entirely objective assessment.
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September 19, 2014 7:14pm
Griff

Reid you are forgetting
Nasska is an Atheist
Atheist are very much inclined to consider fundies Non compos mentis.
Colon Crag is a fundie.
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September 19, 2014 7:23pm
nasska

I acknowledge where you’re coming from Reid but people who can look totally dispassionately at politics as you claim to do are thin on the ground. The human species is an imperfect animal who turns information into opinion by analysing input data & leavening it with emotion.

The fact/emotion levels will differ from person to person a little but they’re always there.
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September 19, 2014 7:26pm
Reid

Reid you are forgetting

No I hadn’t forgotten Griff, I just hoped nasska would be able to look past that to make an objective fact-based unemotive assessment.

I’m not sure Craig is a fundie actually. If he was he would have made more of Christ than he has. As far as I’m aware he hasn’t mentioned Him or perhaps that’s just the media but OTOH if he had mentioned it even once then in the current confused state our media exists in, I would have thought they’d shout that from the Six O’clock for about a week solid.

but people who can look totally dispassionately at politics as you claim to do are thin on the ground

I’m not dispassionate nasska, otherwise why would I have 16000+ comments on here? All I’m saying is that it’s possible to be logical if one choses to be rather than leaving everything up to one’s “gut” which is sadly how most politics works which is why we get such bullshit from them all the time, no matter who we elect. If people said, fuck you, I’m making my opinion in my head not my tummy, the world would be fucking fantastic, instead of the lousy crap we see around us not just here but world-wide.
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September 19, 2014 7:28pm
cha

We think we’ve got hateful loons running.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_tPLaULwPc
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September 19, 2014 7:43pm
nasska

Reid

….”I’m not sure Craig is a fundie actually. If he was he would have made more of Christ than he has”….

He is a Baptist Reid, although he has stated that he doesn’t attend a church regularly…..at least that is the line he pushes to inquirers. What hasn’t been disclosed to any extent is that his company conducts semi mandatory weekly prayer meetings with his staff. Ref: http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/politics/6876125/Conservative-leader-had-prayer-dispute

Never (with the possible exceptions of a few sects running nurseries & breakfast food companies) have I heard of a company with such a close relationship with imaginary beings.

Religious political parties are not well supported in NZ……Colin’s a Grade A Godnutter but he doesn’t want to scare the horses.

….”If people said, fuck you, I’m making my opinion in my head not my tummy, the world would be fucking fantastic”…..

True…..but we’re not built that way.
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September 19, 2014 7:44pm
dad4justice

Test for the cowardly big bruv to use his multiple identities and get this comment moderated.
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September 19, 2014 7:46pm
RF

Christ… Just had a recorded phone call from Turtle asking for our vote. Idiot. Will be so pleased that after tomorrow I will not be subjected to this wanker standing with legs wide apart looking as if he has crapped himself. What a phoney poser.

I have given my 2 votes to National.
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September 19, 2014 7:46pm
nasska

….”I have given my 2 votes to National.”…..

Welcome friend. 🙂
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September 19, 2014 7:51pm
nasska

….”Test for the cowardly big bruv to use his multiple identities”….

That’s a bit tough Dad…..surely you wouldn’t accuse a man of something like that without some pretty compelling proof.
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September 19, 2014 7:55pm
dad4justice

I have the proof all right , do you know who this deranged creep is ?
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September 19, 2014 7:57pm
Nookin

Maybe we should note that Bruv has yet to appear, Dad has made his first comment and, first off, he is looking for stoush. No more talk of stalking, dad. No more talk of Bruv coming at you. You want it, he will give it to you and you deserve everything that comes with it.
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September 19, 2014 7:59pm
nasska

Wouldn’t have a clue Dad. 🙂
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September 19, 2014 8:00pm
Harriet

Nasska doesn’t see the bigger picture of Christian & Conservative forces in NZ and internationaly. He thinks Christians & Conservatives all directly revolve around Mr Craig in NZ, and if he goes, the forces go with him. They don’t.

If Conservatism gains momentum in European and Western countries [and they are] – then rest assured – they will gain momentum here. NZ is not strong enough to stand against such forces.

It is not possible for NZ to stand against the Rightous – as it is then saying the rightous are wrong. NZ would look like gays ‘shaking their fists at God’.
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September 19, 2014 8:03pm
dad4justice

“Big Bruv fairly and squarely caught out making false complaints and sending comments into moderation unnecessarily. (GD last night and other places)”

How come Mr Farrar the cowardly gutter snipe bigot blouse can do that on your blog?
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September 19, 2014 8:03pm
dad4justice

“Wouldn’t have a clue Dad”

Do you want to know the cowardly liars name?
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September 19, 2014 8:05pm
Nookin

No Dad, while I cant speak for others, I have no interest at all in knowing his name. You already tried that on another thread at another time. Flag it.
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September 19, 2014 8:10pm
nasska

….”they will gain momentum here. NZ is not strong enough to stand against such forces.”…..

Alas the vanguard of Christian Conservative Parties have had a fairly tough time of it….they don’t seem to have the common touch. All turned to horse feathers when the heat went on.

The voting public seems to see through the transparent Trojan horse carrying authoritarian, Godstruck moralists who know what’s best for us. 🙂
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September 19, 2014 8:11pm
Griff

harry d4j you are on a liberal blog.
Conservonutters should keep in mind that KB is a liberal space that you inhabit only due to liberal ideals of tolerance.
The moral majority remember them same rhetoric and same reality.
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September 19, 2014 8:12pm
dad4justice

“No Dad, while I cant speak for others, I have no interest at all in knowing his name. You already tried that on another thread at another time. Flag it”

Ok Nookin bigot blouse can continue his pathological lies without consequences, can you ask the filthy mongrel to post the violent emails that he alleges I sent the throwback scumbag. He is all about lies . He hides behind anonymity. Not for much longer matey. The law is the law eh matey?
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September 19, 2014 8:15pm
adze

Remember, this is the same left that bewailed the dirty politics of the right.

@johnkeypm they all look inbred and fucking stupid.— Mama Afrika (@dat_nastyass) September 19, 2014

It’s OK When We Do It™.
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September 19, 2014 8:17pm
stigie

How do you know BB has been making false complaints Dad ?
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September 19, 2014 8:18pm
Griff

D4j remember the report comment button and DPFs push for a more civil KB
I would suggest that if you continue there will be a point when your comments will be honestly reported as abusive.
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September 19, 2014 8:22pm
dad4justice

stigie for nearly a year now bigot blouse claims I have sent him threatening and sexually explicit emails. I have not and have asked the spineless creep to post them on here to which he can’t. The man is filth and should be banned for continual false testimony.

He has attacked me since he changed his blogger name from Insolent Prick to big bruv. I know who he is and why he attacks me.

Edit – gripp have another bong and nark me up you pus stain drugged up wasted space. Are you phool ure in drag?
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September 19, 2014 8:23pm
stigie

Go easy on Griff Dad…he seems harmless enough !~
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September 19, 2014 8:27pm
Steve (North Shore)

Two girls need a pyjama party before they get the DPF ban
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September 19, 2014 8:30pm
Harriet

“…..Conservonutters should keep in mind that KB is a liberal space that you inhabit only due to liberal ideals of tolerance.
The moral majority remember them same rhetoric and same reality…..”

Griff, Jesus said to ignore the ignorant, leave them to themselves, and move on. That’s pretty bloody liberal.

“…..The voting public seems to see through the transparent Trojan horse carrying authoritarian, Godstruck moralists who know what’s best for us….”

Nasska and Griff think Craig is going to legislate heresy into law. Idiots.
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September 19, 2014 8:32pm
Griff

Jesus said to ignore the ignorant, leave them to themselves,
and harry it like most of those who profess belief chooses to ignore the words of Christ and rant uncontrollably about the sexuality of others.
judge a man not by his belief but by his actions.
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September 19, 2014 8:37pm
nasska

1 Corinthians 5:12,13
What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”
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September 19, 2014 8:38pm
dad4justice

Hey Gripp pack another bong and go crying to Farrar you non identity druggie fool.
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September 19, 2014 8:39pm
big bruv

Evening all, now, what have I missed?
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September 19, 2014 8:40pm
dad4justice

Can you post those emails I sent you big bruv?
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September 19, 2014 8:42pm
Griff

F**k I just managed to up tick myself on my 8:12 pm … weird.
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September 19, 2014 8:48pm
Nostalgia-NZ

“Yes the economy has passed its peak; the latest GDP figures confirm a deceleration in momentum,” Bagrie said. “Correspondingly, confidence measures, for both consumers and businesses, are off their highs. The cycle is now maturing from strong growth rates off lows to moderate growth off good levels”

Good to see a report of moderate growth at good levels predicted into the future along with rising consumer spending confidence, really a lot of what the election debate should have been about rather than misuse of the OIA for example. As to that misuse, at least into the future, there will be tighter controls resulting from the inquiry by the Ombudsman’s office which it may have been prudent for the Nats to observe earlier, rather than letting it run out to the end with more revelations on the final day before voting. Additionally, and on reflection, the ‘move to the left’ by the Government which has been criticised, doesn’t account for some clarity that the reaching out has been to help ‘lift’ rather than ‘gift.’ Overall, if National return a big part of that success will be JK’s willingness to have turned his ‘blind’ eye to the far rights calls for ‘racist’ seats to be banned – well, that’s what it may be in the final count. An interesting day looms.
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September 19, 2014 8:48pm
big bruv

D4J

Remember last night how you claimed to be the victim of unprovoked attacks by me, and one or two others?

Well, you may also remember that I refuted that claim, I also pointed out that it was you who seemed to be unable to let the day pass without unloading a torrent of unprovoked abuse toward those who you seem to think have wronged you in some way.
Tonight has once again proved my claim to be correct, I have just had a bit of a scroll through the comments from earlier in the evening and it is crystal clear that you are again seeking attention.

Seriously man, you need to see somebody about this problem. Even Bedwetter thinks you are not well.
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September 19, 2014 8:51pm
dad4justice

Can you bigot blouse coward post the emails I sent you. Post them and I leave. Do not post them you leave you lying snake.

You are a pathological liar who will be held accountable as every dog has their day.

Edit malicious liars like yourself deserve to be exposed for the sake of all moral people.
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September 19, 2014 8:53pm
Harriet

“…..What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”

Yes all those of the Church are to lead by example Nasska – including while being in the Beehive.
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September 19, 2014 8:55pm
Griff

James 4:11
Brothers and sisters, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against a brother or sister or judges them speaks against the law and judges it. When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it.
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September 19, 2014 9:01pm
nasska

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vt481z30he070ei/Conservonutter%2021.jpeg?dl=0

Beat the Holy Spirit into your brat…..but first you have to vote NZ Conservative.
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September 19, 2014 9:03pm
cha

Spot the difference.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bxwry0_IIAE0bqP.png:large
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September 19, 2014 9:08pm
big bruv

D4J

Right!, So it is me who tells lies is it?

Have I ever said that I am best mates with Richie McCaw yet provide no proof?
Have I ever said that I won $20,000 on one rugby game?
Have I ever said that I made $200,000 in one month gambling?
Have I ever said that I donated $100,000 to my church yet that fantastic gesture goes unreported?

Not me D4J. I deal in the truth, while you might not like that it is not my problem.

If I could offer one small piece of advice it would be to seek professional help for your attention seeking issues. Once you learn a way to control your insatiable desire for attention then you might be able to move onto finding a way of accepting that you are the master, and author, of the troubles your life has presented to you.

Oh, and another small piece of advice, don’t look to a non existent God for the answers, that is just another cop out. The answer to the many issues that face you lies within you D4J, it is time to man up and confront them.
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September 19, 2014 9:10pm
dad4justice

JUST TO REMIND YOU BB PROVE TO US ALL I HAVE SENT YOU ABUSIVE EMAILS.

Let kiwiblog decide who is the disturbed fixated liar.

Oh Canterbury are playing well Mr Lie eh? LOL.

End of story.
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September 19, 2014 9:13pm
Nookin

Nasska is rounding in on an old phone number

One, one, double one, eleven, eleven. one
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September 19, 2014 9:17pm
nasska

It seems like just the other day I was a comment virgin. 🙂
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September 19, 2014 9:22pm
Griff

How time flys when you are having fun
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September 19, 2014 9:24pm
stephieboy

Good one Cha,

Spot the difference .?

Putin’s toadies Andrei and Yoza will be pleased.!
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September 19, 2014 9:26pm
Harriet

“…..Oh, and another small piece of advice, don’t look to a non existent God for the answers, that is just another cop out. The answer to the many issues that face you lies within you D4J, it is time to man up and confront them…..”

Playing God now are we Bigot? – dispensing more wisdom than in the Bible.

Bigot: the font of all earthly wisdom – resides at KB.

You have a few more issues than what D4J would ever have.
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September 19, 2014 9:41pm
Nostradamus

Hey – Tom Jackson (the guy who fled from Kiwiblog with his tail between his legs) has come out of hiding!

Tom Jackson
19 September 2014 at 9:08 pm

No.

The way that the right have behaved in this election is unacceptable. They aren’t fellow citizens who happen to have a different opinion, but people who have been exposed as willing to engage in almost any sort of corrupt practice to get what they want. They should be treated as fair game.

Our Tom has such a one-sided view of the world that he’s at risk of falling out of the boat!
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September 19, 2014 9:55pm
PBJ83

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11327328

Pack. Of. Crooks. Even if they win the election they’re in trouble.
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September 19, 2014 9:58pm
Harriet

Impersonating Jesus long after he has died. By playing God.

And people bag Garrett out for doing something similar.

You are rather amusing ‘Bigot’. 😎
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September 19, 2014 9:58pm
Pete George

“Pack. Of. Crooks. Even if they win the election they’re in trouble.”

A disgruntled grizzle against the Government a day before the election has to be looked at with skepticism and suspicion, especially as it relates to something that happened six months ago.

The Herald has followed up trying to keep pushing the story but concedes:

State Services Commissioner Iain Rennie said it was his “understanding” Customs took the allegations “seriously” and an inquiry by the Crown Law Office found them without substance.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11328005

If there’s any substance to what Gregorash claims and Fisher promotes it deserves far better and less cynical media placement than election eve.
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September 19, 2014 10:13pm
adze

@PBJ83

Yes, not a good look. Personally I have never rated Williamson as a Minister. But all power to the Ombudsman in finding evidence of other wrongdoing in the handling of OIAs.
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September 19, 2014 10:13pm
Dennis Horne

Where there’s smoke there’s Fisher.
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September 19, 2014 10:33pm
Nostradamus

Moment of Truth gifts Team Key a late bounce in polls

The Kim Dotcom-inspired event in Auckland’s Town Hall that was supposed to end John Key’s career gave the National Party an immediate bounce in support this week, according to polling for the last Herald DigiPoll survey.

With 60 per cent of the poll done by Monday night, when the event happened, National was polling at 47.8 per cent, down on last week, said DigiPoll general manager Nandan Modak. From Tuesday it jumped to 49.1 per cent.

A similar trend was seen in the preferred Prime Minister polling. Before Monday, Mr Key was polling at 63.4 per cent. From Tuesday it jumped to 66.4 per cent.

Moment of Truth indeed!
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September 19, 2014 10:36pm
Nostalgia-NZ

So something that happened 6 months ago doesn’t matter PG, and if by some chance it does you’re defining the times within which the media should write about it? What are your other jobs?
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September 19, 2014 10:38pm
Dennis Horne

Why Christine Rankin didn’t stand in Pakuranga is beyond me. Maurice Williamson’s following fashion to redefine marriage and gay rainbows has made him look like a fool in many eyes.
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September 19, 2014 10:38pm
Nostalgia-NZ

She would have looked a damn sight better standing in Pakuranga than old ‘Morrie, I’ll work on your bach for free – Mr Lui.’
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September 19, 2014 10:43pm
Dennis Horne

Williamson is and always was a blowhard and it says something about politics that he’s spent a lifetime in Parliament.
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September 19, 2014 10:48pm
Dennis Horne

Someone is marking you down, Nosty, and it’s not me.

Even my harmless joke got down-ticked.
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September 19, 2014 10:52pm
Sublime

Islamic terrorists are operating in the Mexican border city of Ciudad Juarez.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2014/09/feds-el-paso-rep-orourke-called-ban-contact-jw/

Ruh roh!
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September 19, 2014 11:19pm
cha

Islamic terrorists are operating in the Mexican border city of Ciudad Juarez.

Uncorroborated claptrap from anonymous sources published by a site owned by a child sex offender.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/sep/17/trent-franks/isis-mexico-and-planning-cross-border/

http://wonkette.com/485407/judicial-watch-founderclinton-nemesis-larry-klayman-might-have-touched-his-children-in-their-swimsuit-areas

http://wonkette.com/508443/in-which-wonkette-tries-to-bait-larry-klayman-into-suing-us-also-too
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September 19, 2014 11:39pm
Scott Chris

I just saw the most incredible game of rugby league ever.
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September 19, 2014 11:57pm
big bruv

Harriet

Well all have issues to deal with. Having said that, mine do not include a belief in a non existent sky fairy. Anybody who thinks that there is a sky fairy is delusional.
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