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big bruv

Was it not Wainui v Pseudo Catholics today?…or is that tomorrow?
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August 2, 2014 5:52pm
ShawnLH

“Obummer could of course go down in the history books as the guy who droned more folks to death than any other President!”

That’s about the only thing he’s done I have any respect for.
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August 2, 2014 5:53pm
Johnboy

3pm tomorrow at Hutt Rec bb!

The hand of the Pope moves subtley. The psuedos will be at full strength and a couple of our God fearing chaps will be unavailable. Such is the power of superstition. 🙂
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August 2, 2014 5:58pm
wat dabney

Griff

“Still going on about the hockey stick from 1999
we have moved on wat a twat”

When you say “moved on” you mean “finally forced to admit that it was completely worthless, derived as it was from home-made code which found a hockeystick shape in random data, and using cherry-picked data to boot.”

The thing about the Hockeystick was not just that it was worthless, it was how it revealed that those behind the scam are utterly dishonest with absolutely no interest in science or truth. For years they defended that piece of shit with every dirty trick in the book, so that clueless idiots like yourself would parrot their propaganda.

But now we’ve just “moved on” have we?

“One of many studies since Manns 1999 that have not only confirmed the robustness of Manns early study but have expended it well into the past.”

Ah, those me-to hockeyticks which purported to replicate the findings of the original, but the charlatans behind these confections wouldn’t let you see the data or their workings. Again it took years of fighing – including having to use Freedom of Information Acts – to get to the truth, which was essentially that they share a common set of disastrously flawed proxy data.

And all these worthless studies were “peer reviewed.”

And remember that Marcott chart which you trumpeted? Again, quickly exposed as complete rubbish.

As for this Pages 2K effort, it is a work in progress. That piece you link to is just a press release. What we do know is that such hockeystick charts contradict the vast masses of evidence showing a Little Ice Age and a Medieval Warm Period. For some reason you choose to ignore all that multi-disciplinary evidence. Why is that? Why do you simply ignore all the known facts, simply because they contradict your prejudices?
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August 2, 2014 6:01pm
Johnboy

I’ll keep you posted tomorrow bb! 🙂
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August 2, 2014 6:06pm
big bruv

Thanks Johnboy. Can you have a bet on the game?, some bloke reckons you can win $20,000 on a game of footy if you back the right team.
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August 2, 2014 6:09pm
Johnboy

Unless the Pope/Chris/Lou/Hansie is his bookie I’d take him with a pinch of salt bb! 🙂
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August 2, 2014 6:13pm
wat dabney

Jack5,

“you are obviously an ignorant city boy in one of the world’s most efficient agricultural countries.”

If you look at the figures you’ll find that the most significant trend has been the increase in the number of large farms. This is certainly the case with dairy at least, with fewer farms but milking larger and larger herds.
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August 2, 2014 6:13pm
stephieboy

john boy, drone attacks and casualties began under the Bush administation in 2004 .At least Americans are not coughing up blood like the 4,000 soldiers killed in Iraq under GWB.
Have the American right ,like you , regard drone strikes as Decidedly immoral like say the pilotless V1sand V2s and machine guns were once regarded .?

Shawn L H grossly immature as per usual re applauding drone strikes.
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August 2, 2014 6:23pm
ShawnLH

No Stephie, posting the vile abusive crap you did in that article was grossly immature, and then being too much of a gutless coward to answer reasonable questions about it is grossly immature.

Did you take a university course in double standards, hypocrisy and dishonesty?

Come on Stephie, pretend to be a man for five minutes. Do you endorse the article you posted or not?

And why are you silent about Democratic Jew haters?
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August 2, 2014 6:38pm
ShawnLH

“At least Americans are not coughing up blood like the 4,000 soldiers killed in Iraq under GWB.”

Because Obama is a coward.
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August 2, 2014 6:40pm
ShawnLH

Hey Stephie, do you live in the USA?
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August 2, 2014 6:41pm
nasska

stephieboy

Ever heard that old truism drummed into soldiers to the effect that it is not their duty to die for their country…..rather it is to make some other bugger die for his.

A combatant is just as dead if killed by a short sword on a battlefield or by a drone while sheltering behind women & children. The latter form of defence seems favoured by the cowards who rape little girls & cut out baby’s hearts in the name of their wretched god.
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August 2, 2014 6:46pm
ShawnLH

Stephie does not have a clue what he’s talking about. As far as I can tell he’s not American, and gets all his info from pro-democrat sites, and he’s has made hypocrisy and lying into an art form.

Stephie is the Lefty version of Redbaiter.
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August 2, 2014 6:49pm
EAD

It’s funny watching Stephie & Shawn go at each others throat trying to pretend their are vast difference between the Republicans and Democrats.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10769041/The-US-is-an-oligarchy-study-concludes.html

The truth is the real power is in the hands of the people who control the systems of credit and by default the private banking system. He who controls the issuance of credit and the creation of money rules the world. Central banks are lenders of last resort to both governments and the private banking system.

Smell the money – It’s pretty simple and very logical.

The constitutional Republic formerly known as America died in 1913 with the creation of the Federal Reserve Act. The takeover of America was complete after the great Wall Street crash in 1929. America was forced into bankruptcy in 1930. Ownership of all gold bullion and coins was banned and it was seized by FDR’s government to pay for the bankruptcy forced upon the Republic by the bankers. The final nail in the coffin happened in 1971 when the dollar was decoupled from gold by Nixon.

Like NZ and the UK, the USA is a political illusion of choice oligarchy. It is why the Tea Party, UKIP, the Conservatives/Act must be attacked and smeared all the time by the lap-dog media so people don’t choose the wrong option.

“If voting changed anything, they’d make it illegal.”
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August 2, 2014 6:50pm
ShawnLH

The Case Against Gold: Why Ron Paul is Wrong About The Gold Standard by Gregory Hilton.

https://diplomatdc.wordpress.com/2011/05/29/the-case-against-gold-why-ron-paul-is-wrong-about-the-gold-standard-by-gregory-hilton/
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August 2, 2014 7:02pm
Tauhei Notts

Completely off topic, I know, but here goes.
Sort out your My Sky for 8 a.m. Thursday morning when Al Jazeera on channel 90 have a piece about a disposessed indigenous people. The preview shows scenes in black and white of the Wanganui River. I wonder if they will spell it Whanganui?
The show is timed for 2000 hours GMT Wednesday but that is 8 a.m. Thursday here.
I await Kiwibloggers’ comments thereon. Penny Bright; spare us your (?) wisdom, please.
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August 2, 2014 7:09pm
Griff

Wat is denying every thing based on a couple of wingnut blogs.

Its here wat the page 2k published paper in Nature Geoscience
http://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/ngeo1797.html

Nature Geoscience
6,
339-346
(2013)
doi: 10.1038 / ngeo1797

Received
09 December 2012
Accepted
11 March 2013
Published online
21 April 2013

Abstract

Past global climate changes Had strong regional expression. To elucidate spatio-temporal Their pattern, we reconstructed past Temperatures for seven continental-scale regions falling on the past one to two millennia. The most coherent feature in nearly all of the regional temperature reconstructions is a long-term cooling trend, Which ended late in the nineteenth century. At multi-decadal to centennial scales, temperature variability shows distinctly different regional patterns, with more similarity within each hemisphere than in between them. Therewere no globally synchronous multi-decadal hot or cold Intervals did define a worldwide Medieval Warm Period or Little Ice Age, but all reconstructions show gene rally cold conditions in between ad 1580 and 1880, punctuated in some regions by hot Decades falling on the eighteenth century. The transition to colder conditions synthesis occurred Earlier in the Arctic, Europe and Asia than in North America or the Southern Hemisphere regions. Recent warming reversed the long-term cooling; falling on the period ad 1971-2000, the area-weighted average reconstructed temperature higher than what any other time in nearly 1,400 years.

Here is the site with all the data you claim is hidden
http://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.pages.unibe.ch/

as I said wat a twat wingnut published !
Where do you get such dribble from Wat a twat such a gullible idiot its surprising you manage to not eat your self.
screen licker.
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August 2, 2014 7:16pm
UglyTruth

wat dabney, I wish I could give you two ticks for your 6:01.

Spot on.
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August 2, 2014 7:19pm
Longknives

Who the fuck is the Irish correspondent One News uses for all their Gaza updates?
My God she is biased- She is constantly choking back the tears for all those ‘innocents’ Israel has killed.
She needs to watch Johnboy’s head-sawing vid….
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August 2, 2014 7:20pm
Griff

😆
Oh look Ugly tinfoil boy is your fan Wat a twat
You know you are on the money when ugly wingnut agrees with you …
how cute two tinfoil wearing wing nuts having a bonding experience.
😆
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August 2, 2014 7:29pm
Harriet

wat a twat…… LOL Griff 😎
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August 2, 2014 7:33pm
wat dabney

Griff,

“Wat is denying every thing based on a couple of wingnut blogs. Its here wat the page 2k published paper in Nature Geoscience”

Er, yes Griff. That Geoscience piece is the pre-release. It’s what’s technically called a ‘progress article.’
The finished study has yet to be published. It’s still very much pre-review.

And no, for the Page 2K work I didn’t say the data was hidden.

You really do broadcase your complete cluelessness for all to see, don’t you.

Perhaps you should try adding some more of those smiley faces? You are, after all, a 50 year old man. Although for some sad reason you display the mentality of a teenage girl.
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August 2, 2014 7:38pm
stephieboy

EAD, explain exactly how each nation on this earth will obtain their Gold reserves if the Gold standard is adopted or will” gold ” paper money come into it.?
You see and think about it that is an impossibility .
Right.?
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August 2, 2014 7:49pm
Griff

It is a published work. That the are still researching further so what that’s what scientists do wat a twat
Yes they are continuing to amass more information.
but their work to-date as published confirms the hockey stick as does many other similar works Wat a twat
love it that you and ugly agree. 😆
Keep on trying to prove the mwp
Do you know what the result is if wing nuts did prove the mwp wat a twat ?
you prove climate sensitivity is far higher than the IPCC range
The smiley
because you are a joke wat a wing nut who reads rubbish blogs and thinks they are science
😆
wingnuts are so funny
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August 2, 2014 7:51pm
UglyTruth

how cute two tinfoil wearing wing nuts having a bonding experience.

Hey Griff, care to explain why, when the data gets adjusted, the adjustments typically increase any warming trend?
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August 2, 2014 7:56pm
stephieboy

Shawn,LH, I see like say the Somme or Verdun casualties are totally meaningless to you and the cock up that was 2003 Iraq is worth it..?
I think history will judge Obama kindly who has kept American troops out of remote centers of engagement that actually helped destroy the Roman Empire among many things.

Live in the US. ? No.!
I take it you do.?
Yea.?
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August 2, 2014 7:59pm
tom hunter

Many individuals like Sowell have made silly and crazy claims bout his fellow Afro American. The dumb comparisons with Hitler are but one of them.

The immortal phrase “BushHitler” that echoed across left-wing blog sites, comments, cartoons, and god knows what else for almost eight years is now far down the memory hole apparently. I don’t remember any left-wingers sniffing about the dumbness of such comparisons. On the contrary the ones I saw here on Kiwiblog, NZ lefty blogs, and of course the US blogs, thought it was just so brilliantly funny.

As I pointed out a while ago, I figure we’re about ten months or so away from Stephieboy dropping the whole “racist, racist, racist” line and falling into full War On Women mode in support of Hillary’s bid for power. It will be at that time that it will be appropriate to bring up all the incredibly vile things said about Republican woman, especially Palin in 2008/2009. I recall few left-wing objections to such, the few – such as noted left-wing intellectual Camilia Paglia – being notable for their rarity.

And just as a side-note on some pseudo-psychologist labelling Obama as insane and Stephieboy’s outrageously outraged outragism about how dreadfully offensive it is, here’s another story from the memory hole that I’m sure he has not a clue about:

The most famous and thorough couching of all time took place prior to the 1964 election, when 1,189 psychiatrists declared Barry Goldwater mentally unstable and paranoid. One can assume that these psychiatrists presumed such attributes made Goldwater unfit for office. None of these shrinks had met Goldwater, which provided them the added bonus of not being liable to a malpractice suit for their armchair diagnoses.

Unfortunately, that same fact left Fact magazine, the public benefactor responsible for informing the voting public of Goldwater’s instability, liable for a libel suit from Barry himself, which he handily won. So much for freedom of the press, free speech, and the moral imperative of an informed electorate!

“Fact” magazine eh? Sounds like it was made for the Internet Age.
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August 2, 2014 8:04pm
nasska

Remember, the next time you`re thinking of replying to one of those
“Married couple seeks single male for Threesome” Ads….

Sometimes its the Woman who just wants to watch.
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August 2, 2014 8:12pm
Griff

😆

Your support is probably the most damming evidence possible on KB for the stupidity of the rest of the wing nuts ugly tin foil boy.
keep it up
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August 2, 2014 8:12pm
ShawnLH

Obama and Kerry behind one of most strategic mistakes in military history.

“The obsession by the Obama-Kerry administration with imposing a cease-fire on the warring parties in the Hamas-Israel war will go down in history as one of the most strategic mistakes in military history.

Here is a fact the administration deliberately and maliciously ignored: In the history of modern warfare, no terrorist group has ever honored a cease-fire. Hamas has broken every cease-fire it ever said it would honor. Every single one.

Even the Israel-Hamas 2012 cease fire, brokered by then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, was simply agreed to by Hamas to give it an opportunity to restock its military arsenal, pressure Israel to lift its restrictions on the import of cement and steel into Gaza – material that Clinton said would be used to build hospitals and schools, but in fact was used to build a network of underground tunnels into Israel and build a subterranean network of underground bunkers, weapons storage facilities and launching pads.”

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/08/01/barack-obama-and-john-kerry-carried-out-most-historic-strategic-blunder-in/

The West’s retreat is fueling the aggressors.

“U.S. disengagement under Obama has created a power vacuum and emboldened the boldest actors to carve out pieces of the world for themselves and redraw maps, as there is no powerful deterrent anymore. While the last decade of Western engagement in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya has been messy, it has still been controllable, because we had some influence on developments.

Now, after having withdrawn from the world under President Obama’s “leadership,” we have no control, no influence and can only watch the mayhem unfold.”

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/07/31/wests-retreat-is-fueling-aggressors/

Is President Obama incompetent or lawless?

“President Obama has taken the concept of discretion and so distorted it, and has taken the obligation of faithful enforcement and so rejected it, that his job as chief law enforcer has become one of incompetent madness or chief lawbreaker. Time after time, in areas as disparate as civil liberties, immigration, foreign affairs and health care, the president has demonstrated a propensity for rejecting his oath and doing damage to our fabric of liberty that cannot easily be undone by a successor.”

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/07/31/is-president-incompetent-or-lawless/
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August 2, 2014 8:13pm
wat dabney

Oh dear Griff,

“It is a published work.”

Oh bless.

Publishing some aspect of an unexamined piece of work automatically means it and the rest of the work is correct does it Griff? Publishing is like magic, isn’t it Griff. And everything on TV is true.

I repeat, it is what’s technically known as a ‘progress article.’ It’s a puff piece. It has absolutely no scientific credibility until its data and methodology have been examined. You didn’t understand this, obviously. You desperately googled so you’d have something to post in reply and you ended up making an even bigger fool of yourself.

“but their work to-date as published confirms the hockey stick as does many other similar works”

That would be the same Hockeystick which was so thoroughly discredited that even the corrupt IPCC dropped it, would it? And the me-to charts which were also thoroughly debunked once the charlatans who created them were finally forced to hand over the data? Charts which, incidentally, contradict the vast mass of inter-disciplinary studies showing a Little Ice Age and Medieval Warm Period.

“Do you know what the result is if wing nuts did prove the mwp wat a twat ? you prove climate sensitivity is far higher than the IPCC range”

Good grief. Your cluelessness knows no bounds does it Griff. Sometimes even I am astounded by the sheer ignorance and stupidity of your statements. Let me explain it to you: The point of alarmists trying to erase the MWP from history is to try to demonstrate that natural climate variation is minimal and that recent (sic) warming must therefore be anthropogenic. In other words, the complete reverse of what you just claimed.

I don’t wish to be rude, but you say you are a 50 year old man yet you seem completely unable to grasp the simplest argument.

Stick with the teenage girl smiley faces, mate, if they help you feel good about yourself. Just try not to interrupt when grown-ups are talking, eh?
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August 2, 2014 8:17pm
ShawnLH

“Shawn,LH, I see like say the Somme or Verdun casualties are totally meaningless to you and the cock up that was 2003 Iraq is worth it..?”

Don’t be such a dickless liar Stephie. Casualties are not meaningless to me, but they do not define whether a war was worth it or not.

“I think history will judge Obama kindly”

That’s delusional.

“Live in the US. ? No.!
I take it you do.?
Yea.?”

Born there, grew up there and on US navy bases in various parts of the world, and have family living there, including three in the US military, two of whom are in harms way. So I can safely say I have a helluva lot more understanding of the country and military issues than you do.
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August 2, 2014 8:17pm
ShawnLH

“The immortal phrase “BushHitler” that echoed across left-wing blog sites, comments, cartoons, and god knows what else for almost eight years is now far down the memory hole apparently. I don’t remember any left-wingers sniffing about the dumbness of such comparisons.”

I pointed this and other issues out to Stephie earlier today, but when you do he tends to run away like a coward and won’t respond. Utterly gutless.
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August 2, 2014 8:24pm
Don the Kiwi

I’m just waiting for the day when a comment of Grieff’s does not include the term – “wingnut” or “wingnuttery”

I actually enjoy Griff’s comments, except when he talks about climate change (or not)

Actually, I tell a fib – I enjoy the CC comments too, because they make me burst out into incontrollable laughter – and previously, they used to make me weep.

So I must thank Griffith – ith – ith for brightening my days. 🙂
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August 2, 2014 8:30pm
Griff

In the northern Hemisphere, the period 1983-2012 was likely the warmest 30-year period of the last 1,400 years (medium confidence).

The original 1999 Hockey Stick study (and the 2001 Third IPCC Assessment report) concluded that recent northern hemisphere average warmth was likely unprecedented for only the past 1,000 years. The 2007 IPCC Fourth Assessment extended that conclusion back further, over the past 1,300 years (and it raised the confidence to “very likely” for the past 400 years). The new, Fifth IPCC Assessment has now extended the conclusion back over the past 1,400 years. By any honest reading, the IPCC has thus now substantially strengthened and extended the original 1999 Hockey Stick conclusions.
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August 2, 2014 8:32pm
Don the Kiwi

Griff.

You forgot to tell those who disagreed that they were the wingnuttest wingnuts with their wingnuttery that put all wingnuts on the wing. 😉

BTW – you don’t have wingnut ears do you? 🙂
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August 2, 2014 8:35pm
Griff

😆
grown up you wat a twat
By your insistence that a couple of random blogs over the worlds scientific bodies I thought you were around six.
😆
You are obviously upset by the laughter.
Guess you like your Friend ugly should get used to it then.
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August 2, 2014 8:54pm
Maggy Wassilieff

@ Griff; Wat Dabney; Ugly Truth et al.
One of the reasons I follow CC/AGW postings here is that I can read them. (Albeit with some difficulty at times).
I am a sensitive soul and find most of the CC /AGW blogs to be absolutely repellant. The vitriolic outpourings on “Hot Topic”, for instance, leave me with a tainted aura.
I would hate to see Kiwiblog’s climate experts/wingbats adopting the level of invective that pollutes other blogs.
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August 2, 2014 9:06pm
Steve (North Shore)

I just had a thought, it don’t happen very often.
Moneywise investing with those who say you should invest with them is a crock, so
I decided on GOLD. Gold foil hats, so once I get some Gold I can sell the hats.
Unlike a Gold ring, these hats can protect you from having an opinion.
Waiting waiting waiting
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August 2, 2014 9:11pm
stephieboy

Shawn L H so you’ve lived in the USA etc and this gives you special qualifications to comment about and understand the country to the exclusion of the rest including say Alex Jones, David Duke , Jeff Resne , Ray Griffen , Richard Gage and numerous other Conspiracy theorists.?
You accept their beliefs and understanding about US affairs.? They after all were born and live there right now.!

What a load of condescending and patronizing twaddle.
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August 2, 2014 9:12pm
Griff

http://www.climatechange2013.org/images/report/WG1AR5_SPM_FINAL.pdf

Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, and since the 1950s, many of the observed
changes are unprecedented over decades to millennia. The atmosphere and ocean have
warmed, the amounts of snow and ice have diminished, sea level has risen, and the
concentrations of greenhouse gases have increased (see Figures SPM.1, SPM.2, SPM.3 and
SPM.4).
Each of the last three decades has been successively warmer at the Earth’s surface than any
preceding decade since 1850 (see Figure SPM.1). In the Northern Hemisphere, 1983–2012
waslikely the warmest 30-year period of the last 1400 years (medium confidence.

Continental-scale surface temperature reconstructions show, with high confidence , multi-decadal periods during
the Medieval Climate Anomaly (year 950 to 1250) that were in some regions as warm as in the late 20th century.
These regional warm periods did not occur as coherently across regions as the warming in the late 20th century
highconfidence

Dear dear Wat a twat seems you have been caught telling fibs yet again

Maggy love
I taunt Wat a Twat for fun
I am never going to change his mind and the time for actually taking him seriously and treating his junk as worth serous discussion passed around eight thousand post ago.

Ps Griffith’s posts makes up the missing ones.

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August 2, 2014 9:14pm
ShawnLH

“Shawn L H so you’ve lived in the USA etc and this gives you special qualifications to comment about”

Compared to you specifically, hell yes!

“What a load of condescending and patronizing twaddle.”

No, that would be you responding to any anti-Obama statement with screams of “RACISM!!!” and posting articles claiming Republicans are white supremacists.
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August 2, 2014 9:16pm
Reid

The vitriolic outpourings on “Hot Topic”, for instance, leave me with a tainted aura.

You need to protect your aura Maggie.

Personally I’ve always found it most useful to recognise the simple truth that it’s not what happens to you, it’s how you process what happens to you, that counts.

If you learn how to do it right, your aura becomes bullet-proof, even when you or more importantly your loved ones are being tortured and killed in front of you and trivial matters like words on a blog site are of course thousands of miles behind that.

Very few people have even started on the path toward learning that and even fewer know that potential exists, but it does. But the rarity of that explains the world we see, which is filled with hate, because it is founded on fear.
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August 2, 2014 9:19pm
Griff

Dog removed after critically injuring boy
Had me wondering were they removed the dog from
but its just another case of Darwin at work
get a lovely little cuddly pit bull to protect the family
result
it eats your kid
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/10341427/Dog-removed-after-critically-injuring-boy
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August 2, 2014 9:34pm
stephieboy

Shawn LH, where specifically have I responded to anti Obama comments claiming Republicans etc. are white supremacists.?

Am glad you’ve apparently backed down on your claim that your American origins somehow gives you somehow exclusive rights to make informed comment about your place of birth.
That am sure Alex Jones and coy would agree even though I find their politics and ideas rather distasteful
.Hope you do too.?
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August 2, 2014 9:37pm
ShawnLH

“Shawn LH, where specifically have I responded to anti Obama comments claiming Republicans etc. are white supremacists.?”

Look at the article you posted first thing today. And I have seen you do so on many occasions.

“Am glad you’ve apparently backed down on your claim that your American origins somehow gives you somehow exclusive rights to make informed comment about your place of origin.”

Again, don’t be a dick Stephie, I never made that claim. I was talking about you specifically.

“That am sure Alex Jones and coy would agree even though I find their politics and ideas rather distasteful
.Hope you do too.?”

What does Alex Jones have to do with anything we are talking about?
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August 2, 2014 9:41pm
UglyTruth

Your support is probably the most damming evidence possible on KB for the stupidity of the rest of the wing nuts ugly tin foil boy.
keep it up

Still no explanation from you as to why the data adjustments typically favour the AGW camp, Griff?
Or comments on William Connolly’s stint as gatekeeper at Wikipedia, making it a bastion for the AGW crowd?
Or the Climategate2 emails, which include Jim Salinger trying to get Climate Research journal editor Chris de Freitas fired when Salinger was working for NIWA?
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August 2, 2014 10:00pm
stephieboy

Alex Jones is an American who like you makes various claims about US affairs and especially Obama..I doubt even he would agree with your line of reasoning about in a superior position to comment about his country
Which article are you specifically referring to ?.Even if a certain article made such a claim it does not necessarily follow I agree with all this comments and conclusions.
Finally I believe many comments made about Obama, including by some Republicans, are I believe largely racially based
.I stand by that claim.
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August 2, 2014 10:10pm
RF

Bloody precious Daniel Carter is off the field after injuring his leg. For Christs sake… What happened to the cotton wool.
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August 2, 2014 10:20pm
Tauhei Notts

C’mon Crusaders’ Lift your game!
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August 2, 2014 10:27pm
ShawnLH

Oh dear Stephie, you really don’t do honest debate do you? You have to misrepresent people. That is sad.

“I doubt even he would agree with your line of reasoning about in a superior position to comment about his country”

My ability to comment about the US compared to YOU PERSONALLY is because I understand the country better than you do.

The fact that you think Alex Jones is representaive of the Right in the US is proof you have no clue what you are talking about. Millions of people on the Right have valid issues with Obama’s policies, but rather than treat them seriously you stick them all in your little “far right” box and associate them with fringe people like Jones. That’s just plain ignorant and lazy.

“Which article are you specifically referring to ?”

The same one I have been talking about all day. If you don’t know by now it proves you are not an honest debater, becauee you’re not listening to anyone but yourself.

It was this one: http://defendingthetruth.com/current-events/41250-obama-forced-clean-up-another-republican-mess.html

Look at the first paragraph. It’s total crap.

“Finally I believe many comments made about Obama, including by some Republicans, are I believe largely racially based
.I stand by that claim.”

Of course you do, it’s a lazy and dishonest way to attack people when you cannot think of a valid argument.

I’m done with you. Your not interested in open and honest debate. You’re clearly ignorant of US domestic politics. You deeply, deeply bigoted towards the right and repeatedly show no understanding of the varieties and differences between people and groups the right, and you don’t want to know because it’s easier just to insult people with claims of “far right” and “racism”.

Bye. Life is short and you are not worth wasting time on.
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August 2, 2014 10:27pm
Tauhei Notts

The Waikato Times report that a truck carrying 400 bobby calves left the road on Piako Road amd a vet had to euthanase 60 cows.
Remember the old days when the Waikato Times had an ounce of knowledge about the dairy industry.
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August 2, 2014 10:35pm
Nostradamus

Tauhei Notts:

What knowledge are you referring to – the 400 cows or the 60 bobby calves? 🙂
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August 2, 2014 10:37pm
RF

McCaw has cost the Crusaders the game. It will be a quiet flight home for him. Maybe people will wake up to his professional fouls that he gets away with over here.
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August 2, 2014 11:26pm
dime

Bruv will have just lost his lolly.. Sir Richie costs the Cantabs a championship.
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August 2, 2014 11:44pm
Nookin

I wonder if dad just did $20,000? He may have to ask the church for a loan
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August 2, 2014 11:45pm
Nookin

I missed the penalty. What was it for?
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August 2, 2014 11:48pm
Tauhei Notts

Nostradamus, you could be the farming correspondent for any paper.
If a truck is carrying, at this time of the year, 400 bobby calves it is obviously a truck and trailer unit with two decks.

Therefore, unless you know as much about dairy farming as Russel Norman, you will realise that any truck and trailer unit with 400 bobby calves will have no room left for any cows, let alone any Green Party activists.
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August 2, 2014 11:48pm
Colville

Six months ago I would have defended Sir Ritchie but now its on the brink.

The game was likely to come down to a penalty, just a pity we had to wear the last one.. But Yeah likely Ritchie was there to give the last one away.
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August 2, 2014 11:52pm
Colville

nookin.
Entering from the side and or playing the ball on that ground as he was not the tackler.
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August 2, 2014 11:54pm
dime

I wonder if the best ever 10 playing at 10 would have helped..

Maybe dagg should have played centre!
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August 2, 2014 11:57pm
Colville

Dime.
he went off at 30 mins. didnt matter much.
I think he is in his last months of top tier rugby too.
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August 2, 2014 11:59pm
dime

Coalville – they used doc as a battering ram and he got hurt.

Blackadder should buy a new world
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August 3, 2014 12:04am
Nookin

They need Crotty at 12 and something big, fast and ferocious at 13. Freuan was an option but health issues stood in the way. Blackadder realised for the first time this year that big and fast on the flank works.
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August 3, 2014 12:23am
Left Right and Centre

Too funny – Kieran Reid giving the loser’s speech. Poor little fella. Started repeating himself giving credit to the opposition again and something else. Painful to watch – he was like a socially awkward tongue-tied deer-caught-in-the-headlights young teenager. He should try out for Labour leader – perfect. He’s already had a go at a losing speech.

Super Rugby is gay using conference format. Totally gay. Bring back S12/14 round robin.

Bullshit soft streak of piss Aussie conference means racking up easy peasy home advantage competition points. Fuck – why not just play the Rebels ten times in a row and top the table with a million points ? That’s not far off how it actually is. Dumb.

Well done Crusaders – 60 000 pairs of brown underdaks is not a bad effort. They’ve won a final by one point in Canberra in 2000, and now lost by one point in Sydney in 2014 in similar fashion. The circle of life or irony or some such. What goes around comes around. Charming working class moronic phrase from America evolved from unevolved sirloin saturated slapstick tacky saps tick-tapping circus freaks who reek of deep-fried chic hot-wired not-desired and short-circuited who are limited to communicating only in T shirt / text / twitter sloganese.

Dan Carter is cursed in Big Matches. ’07 and ’11 RWC play-offs. 2014 Super Rugby final. Who does he think he is . . . Rafael faeking Nadal ? I’d keep Stephen Donald’s cellphone number around just in case old glass jaw goes down on cue in 2015 – after all – Stephen did score 37.5% of NZ’s points in the 2011 final. He’s clearly got a proven record of getting it done then. You want dudes who bite the bullet – not the dust.

Here’s a stat – Crusaders 0-4 in last four away finals. That would look ok embroidered into some red and black cushions at the artist formerly known as ‘we are the greatest but we don’t like to shout about it’ newly renamed ‘close-but-no-cigar’ headquarters. Oh well – let’s look for a positive. ‘One more year’ isn’t much of a sledge in Super Rugby, eh ? Just choking. Ooooo – that’s them again. What am I like ??
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