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General Debate 27 July 2014

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Judith

@ nasska

It’s all bullshit – I know Labour are going to get 76% of the vote! I’m never wrong!
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July 27, 2014 7:45pm
dad4justice

“You don’t have $100k. It is as simple as that.”

So you hacked my bank details as well as my gmail and yahoo accounts. This bb name is a genius. I made $20k on the Crusader’s game last night. Thank you McCaw and co. 🙂
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July 27, 2014 7:45pm
nasska

I wouldn’t put much more than the milk money on your predictions if I were you Judith.

Something tells me it will turn to custard. 🙂
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July 27, 2014 7:49pm
Judith

@ D4J and BigBruv

Does it really matter? Honestly?

It looks to me, from an onlookers point of view, that maybe someone else has been shit stirring here and sent emails pretending to be from either of you – its easily done, and there are some weird people on the internet.

You’re both intelligent guys and I enjoy your posts, even though you disagree with me. Obviously you are upset, there is nothing worse than being accused of things you haven’t done, especially if it involves kids. Of course you’re angry and want to clear your name/s. But even if emails could be produced, there is no guarantee that the person whose name on them, is the person that sent them.

I think you’ve both been played – agree to disagree, forget the principles, they are over-rated, and this is just a blog, who cares what others think – most of them have got weird names anyway! How about just forgetting it and deciding its a situation that no one can win?

(damn I hate being a mother – always got to put my five cents worth in).
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July 27, 2014 7:52pm
UglyTruth

http://news.antiwar.com/2014/07/25/un-israel-never-informed-us-of-plans-to-attack-gaza-school/

Israel’s narrative on yesterday’s attack on a UN school full of refugees in the Gaza town of Beit Hanoun has revised again today, with Israel now claiming they informed the UN of the plan to attack the school hours in advance, and told them to remove the refugees before then.

The UN is disputing that, saying that no warning at all was given, and further complaining that when experts visited the site today to inspect the damage, they too were attacked.

The claim of a warning is puzzling, because for hours the Israeli military denied having attacked the school at all, speculating that Hamas had somehow one it themselves. The story just kept changing.
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July 27, 2014 7:53pm
Judith

@ nasska (10,647 comments) says:
July 27th, 2014 at 7:49 pm

There’s always a positive – custard wrestling could be more fun that jelly!! 😛
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July 27, 2014 7:54pm
Southern Raider

UNRWA has just admitted that it is highly likely that the explosive that hit a Gaza school was from a misfired Hamas rocket.

This is the UN agency who attacked the IDF straight away without any evidence

I bet the global MSM that has made this a headline won’t publish a correction
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July 27, 2014 7:56pm
nasska

WOMAN’S DIARY:
Saturday 20th October

Saw him in the evening and he was acting really strangely. I had been shopping in the afternoon with the girls and I did turn up a bit late so thought it might be that.
The bar was really crowded and loud so I suggested we go somewhere quieter to talk. He was still very subdued and distracted so I suggested we go somewhere nice to eat.

All through dinner he just didn’t seem himself; he hardly laughed and didn’t seem to be paying any attention to me or to what I was saying. I just knew that something was wrong.
He dropped me back home and I wondered if he was going to come in; he hesitated but followed.

I asked him again if there was something the matter but he just half shook his head and turned the television on.

After about 10 minutes of silence, I said I was going upstairs to bed.

I put my arms around him and told him that I loved him deeply. He just gave a sigh and a sad sort of smile. He didn’t follow me up but later he did, and I was surprised when we made love.
He still seemed distant and a bit cold, and I started to think that he was going to leave me and that he had found someone else.
I cried myself to sleep.

MAN’S DIARY:
Saturday 20th October

All Blacks lost to South Africa. Gutted. Got a root though.
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July 27, 2014 8:01pm
cricko

Question. Is there something wrong here ?

This is an extract from the maiden speech Jan Logie gave to the NZ Parliament.

(Jan is a Green, lesbian, activist and the advocate for ‘Tarn’ Billingsley, the accuser of the Malaysian diplomat.)

She is talking about the 80s

“During this time my friends were dealing with racism on a daily basis, as friends still are now.
Being followed in shops, stopped in their cars, patronised, ignored and mistrusted………”

This drivel goes on ad nauseum. She talks about her mental health issues, mass suicides of farmers and so on.
Talk about a persecution complex. This is the well balanced individual that gets airtime accusing me and
other Kiwi males of having a rape culture

As my Chinese mate, Wun Hung Lo said, ‘Sumsing velly wong here.’
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July 27, 2014 8:06pm
mikenmild

‘I made $20k on the Crusader’s game last night’
Of course you did, you genius. [signals nurse to bring medication]
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July 27, 2014 8:08pm
UglyTruth

UNRWA has just admitted that it is highly likely that the explosive that hit a Gaza school was from a misfired Hamas rocket.

http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2014/07/25/us-media-outlets-cite-israeli-military-propaganda-cast-doubt-on-whether-israel-bombed-un-run-school/

…Although missiles belonging to Hamas and other armed Palestinian groups in Gaza do sometimes fall short, there was no visible evidence of debris from broken Palestinian rockets in the school. The injuries and the number of fatalities were consistent with a powerful explosion that sent shrapnel tearing through the air, in some cases causing traumatic amputations.

The surrounding neighborhood bore evidence of multiple Israeli attacks, including smoke from numerous artillery rounds and air strikes. One building was entirely engulfed by flames…
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July 27, 2014 8:09pm
dad4justice

mikenmild what benefit are you on the sickness or invalids?
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July 27, 2014 8:12pm
itstricky

(Jan is a Green, lesbian, activist and the advocate for ‘Tarn’ Billingsley, the accuser of the Malaysian diplomat.)

Good thing you let me know she is a lesbian. Thank God for that. I mean I was just about to spot her some money for gas for her car. P_h_e_w that was a lucky escape.
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July 27, 2014 8:15pm
Southern Raider

The Independent (left wing UK paper) has a great article about how the west is actually to blame for what is happening in Gaza at the moment.

When Israel pulled out or Gaza in 2005 it was a test case to see if Palestinians could live in peace with Israel and if this panned out then West Bank was looking more favourable.

Instead Hamas came to power and the UN and west just sat back and slapped them with wet bus tickets. The West Bank is so close to the major population centres of Israel would they ever risk a full withdrawal?
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July 27, 2014 8:20pm
mikenmild

I just have the benefit of being entertained by your crazy comments, D4J.
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July 27, 2014 8:21pm
Southern Raider

Ugly you do realise that some media outlets now have copies of the Hamas social media guide for activists which includes ensuring all casualties are referred to as civilians don’t you?

You and your ilk have been caught hook, line and sinker by terrorists
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July 27, 2014 8:22pm
nasska

….”Good thing you let me know she is a lesbian. Thank God for that. I mean I was just about to spot her some money for gas for her car. P_h_e_w that was a lucky escape.”…..

Good job you read these threads ‘itstricky’. Otherwise by now your balls could have been hung on her rear view mirror as an accessory along with the fluffy dice. 🙂
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July 27, 2014 8:28pm
freemark

Isn’t it funny how the same idiots who have been sucked in by Hamas have also been conned by the AGW alarmists, the 9/11 conspiracy nutters, the apologists & so forth.
There is a pattern…
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July 27, 2014 8:31pm
stephieboy

I wonder how Ugly Truth deals with the quandary of Hamas aligning itself with Sunni Rebel factions in Syria and in turn ISIS, also Sunni, who are now directing it’s attention again to taking on Assad.
BTW it’s wrong to say Palestinians are descended from Jews but rather both share along with Arabic people’s living in Lebanon and Syria a common Semitic heritage.
Something the Palestinians and their naive supporters in the West strongly deny.
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July 27, 2014 8:32pm
Southern Raider

Freemark

All left wing with communist leanings?
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July 27, 2014 8:32pm
ShawnLH

” I can muster $100,000 to prove my position why don’t you ask that piece of lying dog shit if can put up or shut up. Never in my life have I let a lying coward get the better of me.”

Damn D4J, it’s a bloody blog for goodness sakes. Get over it. We have all had bad things said about us, and likely said bad things about others. Not good when it’s not warranted, but sheesh, it’s not that big a deal either. If you have a legit complaint then inform DPF. If not, get over it, move on, and calm down. Your starting to sound seriously unhinged.
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July 27, 2014 8:36pm
All_on_Red

“We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children.We cannot forgive them for forcing us to kill their children.We will only have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us.”
Golda Meir.
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July 27, 2014 8:37pm
tom hunter

The scene is a domestic kitchen, from which choking sobs and sniffles can be heard. Mother enters:

Mother: Oh Deano sweetie, what’s the matter?

Deano: (sniff). I told the Goldberg twins (sob) that they were Mass Murdering Baby Killers

Mother: Oh no. Did they hit you?

Deano: (howling) NOOOOO! (sob) Worse (gulping back tears) They said I had no moral standing to call anybody that after the Cambodia incident. They laughed at me (sobs, chokes)

Mother: The Cambodia incident?

Deano: You know! When I said that Mr Pot would be a great leader of Cambodia ‘cause he was educated in Paris by Marxists and was real smart and everything and wanted justice for everybody (fresh bursts of tears)

Mother: Oh yes, I remember now. But I think we’ll just have to chuck that down Mr Memory Hole won’t we?

Deano: I tried but then I said it was ‘cause all that Unjustified Bombing drove him and his people insane – and then Shirley screamed at me and hit me (HOWWLLLLLLL)

Mother: She hit you? Why would she hit you over that

Deano: She said there was no way that listening to Justin Bieber would drive people into a homicidal rage.

Mother: Well I think we’ll just have to agree to disagree with Shirley about that!. Now is there anything I can do to cheer you up

Deano: I want you to make them shut up and go away forever and ever and ever.

Mother: Oh dear. I don’t think I can. David won’t let that happen.

Deano: The David who owns the 22 semi-automatic with the silencer? I’ll bet he could

Mother:No dear, the David who owns this place. Now look, I know this has not been very nice for you but I do know that little boy from next door would like to play with you. Reido is it?

Deano: (sniff) I guess. He’s a bit strange though. He’s always telling me about this dream where he’s falling through the sky illuminated by rivers of molten metal and other people are flying past him waving their passports and copies of Vogue magazine filled with pictures of little girls and weird symbols and saying they didn’t do it.

Mother: Well that doesn’t sound so strange

Deano: He said the dream ends with a huge explosion and he lands on the ground and wakes up back in reality.
He hates that part. He says it makes his tummy hurt.

At this moment there is a loud knocking at the door. Mother gets up to answer and finds a little boy at the door. He rushes in.

Reido: Hi Deano! Guess what. I’ve discovered where Satan is living.

Mother raises her eyebrows!

Deano: Wow. Can we go see?

Reido: Absolutely! Uncle Achmed says he knows too and we can play a game with him called Target Satan and Hide The Rocket

Deano and Reido run from the kitchen.

Deano: Oh Boy. This’ll be a blast!
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July 27, 2014 8:43pm
cricko

itstricky 8,15

No need to make an even bigger prick of yourself with your snide insinuation.

FYI just to help bring you up to speed.

She declares herself to be a lesbian, she’s proud of it. It’s on her self written bio.
She mentions it every chance she gets.

You fricken shallow drong.

Also Judith 7.52 good post, well said.
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July 27, 2014 8:45pm
dad4justice

“Your starting to sound seriously unhinged.”

Shawn I am not “unhinged” just sick and tired of an anonymous blogger making malicious accusations without foundations. I thought offering to put up a huge cash wager to expose lies was a normal thing to do. What more can I do to try and stop malicious lies being made on a public forum. I am a reasonable man who detests false allegations. Everything I have said about my problems with bb are true. I just want his lies to stop. I gave up on this blog for two years to see if his attitude might change, but no it just the same.
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July 27, 2014 8:48pm
IC5000

“All_on_Red (1,347 comments) says:
July 27th, 2014 at 8:37 pm
“We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children.We cannot forgive them for forcing us to kill their children.We will only have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us.” Golda Meir.”

Well, the Israeli’s are killing a shitload of Palestinian children at the moment so there must be a lot of unforgivingness about.
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July 27, 2014 8:50pm
stephieboy

There is no evidence the Israelis are intentionally and willfully killing Palestinian children.! That’s total crap.!
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July 27, 2014 9:00pm
Southern Raider

Logging onto the Jerusalem Post is very interesting. Constant scrolling messages about rocket attacks throughout Israel plus other info like Egypt just killed 12 militants on the Rafah border
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July 27, 2014 9:08pm
Manolo

A smelly follower of the religion of peace. Yes, another one: http://news.msn.co.nz/worldnews/8881152/bad-hygiene-to-blame-for-failed-underwear-bomber-plot
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July 27, 2014 9:33pm
Reid

Hey guess what the Israeli govt’s media guide calls you guys who think state-sponsored murder is A-OK? Persuadables. That’s right. You’re “persuadable.” Personally I think useful idiot is a better description, but there we go. I guess official publications aren’t allowed to be pejorative, but when you’re talking about people who support state-sponsored murder, personally, I don’t care to be particularly polite.

…In a sentence in bold type, underlined and with capitalisation, Dr Luntz says that Israeli spokesmen or political leaders must never, ever justify “the deliberate slaughter of innocent women and children” and they must aggressively challenge those who accuse Israel of such a crime.

On every occasion, the presentation of events by Israeli spokesmen is geared to giving Americans and Europeans the impression that Israel wants peace with the Palestinians and is prepared to compromise to achieve this, when all the evidence is that it does not. Though it was not intended as such, few more revealing studies have been written about modern Israel in times of war and peace.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/israelgaza-conflict-the-secret-report-that-helps-israelis-to-hide-facts-9630765.html

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8303274/The-Israel-Projects-2009-Global-Language-Dictionary
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July 27, 2014 9:55pm
Rowan

Dad4J
I think you will be waiting a long time for that lying sack of shit (blouse) to change his ways, I similarly am waiting for the day when the serial liar and mason clinic escapee “muggins” posts something factual on a kb thread, unlikely to happen ever!!
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July 27, 2014 10:08pm
IC5000

“stephieboy (2,160 comments) says:
July 27th, 2014 at 9:00 pm
There is no evidence the Israelis are intentionally and willfully killing Palestinian children.! That’s total crap.!”

I like the absolutely devastating use of multiple exclamation marks to underline the logic of you post.

BTW If the IDF fires on a UN school filled with women and children seeking refuge despite being forewarned about their presence then that is targeting children.
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July 27, 2014 11:22pm
Gulag1917

Good idea
Australian Federal government promise tracker.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/factcheck/promisetracker/
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July 27, 2014 11:24pm
SGA

Pharmac really needs to look at its quality control. I think the last bulk order of benzodiazepines might have been a dud. 🙂
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July 27, 2014 11:42pm
Gulag1917

OneTrack (2,594 comments) says:
July 27th, 2014 at 7:04 pm
gulag1917 – “Israel should try different approaches, its long term survival would be better.”
What do you suggest.

A more self reliant and less dependence on the US military, aid and economy. Israel will then be seen not to be a symbol of Western imperialism by Arabs. Israel is quite capable of being more self reliant. One nuclear bomb and continuous guerrilla war could be the end of Israel without some strategic change.
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