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June 28, 2014 8:00am by Kokila Patel

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Nostradamus

Big Bruv:

Is that ute – or utu?

There’s a huge difference!
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June 28, 2014 9:56pm
RichardX

ShawnLH (2,681 comments) says:
June 28th, 2014 at 7:09 pm
Atheist 1. “Science proves man made global warming.”
Atheist 2. “No it doesn’t.”
Atheist 1. “Yes it does, the studies prove it.”
Atheist 2. “No, these other studies prove it’s not.”
Atheist 1. “Your stupid.”
Atheist 2. “No, your stupid.”
Bloody entertaining watching members of the atheist religion go all inquisition on each other over whose “science” is the politically correct orthodoxy!

Lack of belief is not a religion but I know how much that threatens your world view so you are incapable of accepting it

The great thing about science is that as knowledge increases views can change, unlike those who believe ancient texts are inerrant

Christian 1 “You can have females ordained as priests”
Christian 2 “Yes you can”
Christian 1 “No you can’t. You are misinterpreting the ancient text and here is opinion that says I am right”
Christian 2 “Yes you can. It says so right here in the opinion I follow”

Pathetic way to make a point
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June 28, 2014 10:01pm
Nostradamus

This Saturday night love song is dedicated to Kiwiblog’s newest couple (Johnboy and Judith):

I’ll tell you what I’ve done
I’ll tell you what I’ll do
Been driving all nite just to get close to you
Baby Babe – I’m moving so fast
You’d better come on.

The moon is alright
The freeway’s heading south
My heart is going Boom!
There’s a strange taste in my mouth
Baby Babe – I’m moving real fast
So try to hold on
Try to hold on!

Sleeping in my car – I will undress you
Sleeping in my car – I will caress you
Staying in the back seat of my car making up.

So come out tonight
I’ll take you for a ride
This steamy ol’ wagon
The radio is getting wild
Baby Babe – we’re moving so fast
I try to hang on
Try to hang on!

Sleeping in my car – I will undress you
Sleeping in my car – I will caress you
Staying in the back seat of my car making love, oh yea!

Sweet dreams to the delightful couple!
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June 28, 2014 10:01pm
big bruv

“Is that ute – or utu? There’s a huge difference!”

In Wainui??, I’m not so sure there is.
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June 28, 2014 10:02pm
Nostradamus

RichardX:

My personal favourite in that pseudo-Atheist exchange that ShawnLH made up:

Atheist 1. “Your stupid.”
Atheist 2. “No, your stupid.”

That’s an own-goal right there!

Edit: I love it when D4J and Judith stick the thumbs-down into their Nostradamus voodoo doll. It’s such a turn-on!
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June 28, 2014 10:05pm
dad4justice

Hey Nostradumass I have never voted thumbs up or down you stupid know all bunt I cast my first vote for Johnboy on this thread. Why bother it’s so fucking trivial only a sad arse loser would worry about such rubbish. Bad luck creep not me matey! Get a life you sad soul. Some people have such boring lives. Time to go hunting.
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June 28, 2014 10:11pm
Nostradamus

But, funnily enough D4J, there you are lurking in the background!

Now, while you’re here, when I can I expect to see that evidence that you promised?
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June 28, 2014 10:13pm
big bruv

Hey D4J

I thought you were supposed to be going shooting with your kids this weekend?
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June 28, 2014 10:14pm
Nostradamus

D4J:

I thought you were supposed to be going shooting with your kids this weekend?

Do you have a firearms licence? What do you like to hunt?
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June 28, 2014 10:15pm
big bruv

I know D4J used to have a firearms license, he did “lose” it for a while though.

If you search back through this very blog you find a comment where he mentions it.
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June 28, 2014 10:18pm
Nostradamus

Big Bruv:

How do you “lose” a firearms licence?

Down to one pin in the voodoo doll – hi D4J!
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June 28, 2014 10:25pm
Nostradamus

Big Bruv:

Was this comment the one you had in mind?

dad4justice () says:
April 6th, 2007 at 2:20 pm

It was the only trouble I had with anybody when I put out 15,000 brochures against the meaningless faggot bill .

I did not have a shot gun as police took my guns for being a father.

D4J claimed (on that same thread) that he was “chased from the Christchurch mosque by derranged and very angry muslim’s objecting to anti civil union brochures put in their letterbox” [sic]. It must have been an exhilarating experience!

Oh D4J, next time you feel like hitting on me, I’ll have to politely decline and return the favour with some more “stick this up your arse” gifts!
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June 28, 2014 10:31pm
HB

Judith (6,855 comments) says:
June 28th, 2014 at 10:07 am
“Teachers are not bosses. The child is not working for someone else, he is working for himself and his future. Students need to get the message that what they do, is for themselves and the rest of their life – its the stupid impression that they are given that they are working for someone else, that makes many of them not try to succeed as best they can.”

My response (for what it is worth, as I am only a lowly teacher)

1) What have Lucans teachers have to do with it? They are employees of the school and are paid to uphold the school rules.
2) It is the Principal and BOT that suspended Lucan, not his classroom teachers.
3) BOT is elected by the school community (parents). They employed the Principal. Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that the majority of this particular school community wants the rules to be enforced as they have been. This is important as it allows for differences between schools, the school can reflect its community.
4) There are many schools in the area where a tidy ponytail would be fine. He could have enrolled at one of these.
5) If students are not getting the message that the better they do with education, the more choices and opportunities they will have, they are not listening. Teachers, Principals, Careers Advisors ALL SAY THIS, ALL THE TIME.
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June 28, 2014 10:46pm
big bruv

Nostradamus

Oh don’t worry about D4J hitting on you. He does it to me all the time, you just get used to it.

Does make you wonder though, how many times can you catch a guy out telling blatant lies before they feel they cannot show their face any longer.

Seems that D4J (and Bedwetter for that matter) have no shame at all.
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June 28, 2014 10:47pm
HB

also have to say that I have enjoyed reading Nigel Latta’s comments on his FB page about this issue
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June 28, 2014 10:49pm
Viking2

Caught with his hair down

A St John’s College board of trustees member who led the decision to suspend student Lucan Battison is refusing to comment following the discovery of a photo of him as a long-haired student of Lucan’s age – while attending the same school.

In yesterday’s decision, Justice David Collins said it had not been possible to determine when the hair rule was first adopted by the school, but there was photographic evidence that in the “mid-1970s” there was either no rule or one which wasn’t enforced.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11283669
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So the father of the girl who splattered vitriol and bad language all over facebook and who was chairman of the anti hair brigade wore long hair himself.

Which brings me back to the point I made some days ago this was all about her ego. Lucan must have given her a pass by.

But there’s as always is more ain’t there.

This was all kicked off when the new principal of 1 month went to a rugby game and saw several boys with long hair. He called them in prescribed his version of the rules. Not what had been practiced for the last say 30 years. Then it got personal. The new man’s ego got mixed with those of the jilted girls father who also presumably doesn’t like the boys father and way it went.

Lucan and his parents, Troy and Tania, said they were pleased with the judgment but disappointed it had to go to the High Court. “Our preferred option all along was mediation.”
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While rules had a place, they needed to be “reasonable and certain”, they said.”Lucan never broke the rules. The rules which we signed up for, were ‘off the collar and out of the eyes’. Lucan’s hair, whether in a hair-tie or not, has conformed to this, but the new principal shifted the goal posts.”
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/10209394/Lucans-hair-battle-hits-ball-plans
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Schools scramble to check rules after student’s legal victory

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New Zealand schools are facing hefty legal bills to ensure their rules on students’ appearance are legally watertight following a High Court ruling that a college’s decree on hair length was not legally enforceable.

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The Battison family said in a statement that they were pleased with the judgment, but disappointed the issue had reached the High Court — they had wanted mediation.

“We do believe rules have a place. But they need to be reasonable and certain. Lucan has had the same style for three years at St John’s.”

They said he had signed up to the rule and his hair — whether in a hair tie or not — was off the collar and out of his eyes. “In 2014, when girls’ hair lengths … aren’t questioned, why should the rules be different for boys? … It is the school that did not follow the law.”

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11283431
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Schools scramble to check rules after student’s legal victory
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11283431
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I’m a wondering;
Lucan went back to school as prescribed by the Judge with the judge making the point that no disciplnary action was to be taken. That edict was immediately defied by the School by refusing to allow Lucan to practice with the First 15 of which I think he was Captain and by refusing him entry to the school ball.
I am wondering if this is not indeed contempt of court and whether Collins should now call up the Headmaster & the school for these actions. That would be right and fair.
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nasska (10,316 comments) says:
June 28th, 2014 at 11:56 am

Reid

His father (complete with dreadlocks) is a local businessman who features in the register of companies. He is also a survivor of a stint in the spinal unit at Burwood Hospital after a stock car crash which would indicate that he’s not short of guts nor the readies to take a court case.

If it’s his own money I would suggest that he can spend it as he sees fit.
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Seems that plenty of those that call themselves the new National socialist right are actually not far short of being as left as Cunnlife and McCarten given this man has apparently an abundance of self reliance to his credit.

Fancy calling him a greeny. Just shows you can’t tell a person from their hairstyles.
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June 28, 2014 10:52pm
Viking2

hb, you are wrong on most points.
As the Judge so ably noted.
And the kids were at the school years before the new Nazi.
Why should the kid be forced to change schools?

go back to being a fool teacher.
Plenty of people who fail in your systems make more money than you.
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June 28, 2014 10:58pm
HB

whatever.
schools change rules all the time.
like I said, the Principal was employed by the BOT who are elected by the school community. The rules and school culture should be a reflection of what the school community wants. Nothing to do with teachers. We just enforce the rules – that is part of our job description…

and no shit about the money. I used to be one of them but hated the soulless job I was in, so retrained. Money isn’t everything.

which bit/s am I wrong about?- your reply isn’t clear on that
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June 28, 2014 11:19pm
Gulag1917

Nuclear families make comeback in Sweden
http://www.thelocal.se/20131003/50586
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June 29, 2014 2:51am
igm

Rolf Harris is next in line for Labour spokesman on education . . . no worse than perverts holding this position in the past!
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