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wat dabney

Griff,

The new paper looking at the latest evidence shows that the claimed acceleration in the secular rate of sea rise is not happening.

Sooner or later you will have to start facing facts.
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May 24, 2014 3:27pm
wat dabney

The increase in total ice coverage is starting to worry me.

‘Global Sea Ice Extent is 913,000 sq km above the 1981-2010 mean and is well above the one standard deviation mark.’

http://sunshinehours.wordpress.com/2014/05/23/sea-ice-update-may-23-2014-global-sea-ice-skyrocketing/

Antarctic ice extent is way above normal, and the Arctic extent is almost back within trend (in complete contradiction of Griff’s claims that it was “collapsing” and in a “death spiral.”)
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May 24, 2014 3:34pm
wikiriwhis business

TRy to access story that all European babies will be microchipped in 2014

Auckland Libraries freezes the site so it can’t be pasted

But I’ll keep trying
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May 24, 2014 3:42pm
wreck1080

Jetstar NZ are a bunch of fuckwits.

Thank goodness I figured this out before making a booking.

(their ‘live’ help advised that I need a medicare card if I wanted to travel AKL-CHC with my kids. And, i am not allowed to bring my three 5 to 11 year old children with me as they do not hold a drivers license or current passport).

Air NZ are just fine though. Although, they cost 200% more.
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May 24, 2014 3:43pm
nasska

That one’s not going to fly Wiki. 🙂

Ref: http://www.hoax-slayer.com/newborns-microchipped-europe-may-2014.shtml
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May 24, 2014 3:49pm
All_on_Red

Wat
NOAA source data here updated on May 23. It’s increasing in the Arctic alright.
http://origin.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/people/wwang/cfsv2fcst/imagesInd3/sieMon.gif

Not sure Griff can argue with NOAA. Love your Griff Schoolgirl fallacy though- you’re making him famous.
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May 24, 2014 3:55pm
wat dabney

Bizarre.

“A peak moment in American academia.”

‘Towson University won the 2014 Cross Examination Debate Association’s national championship on March 24, of this year. The team members inexplicably used the n-word repeatedly and babbled nonsense.’

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/05/serious-crazy-towson-u-wins-national-debate-contest-by-repeating-n-word-and-babbling-nonsense-video/

Tragic. Yet, like most tragedies, strangely compelling.
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May 24, 2014 3:58pm
Nostradamus

Ha ha…

Wikiriwhis Business: all European babies will be microchipped in 2014.
Nasska (responding to that claim): you’ve been pranked!

I love this sentence from Nasska’s link:

Drivel such as this does nothing but clog the interwebs and needlessly cause fear and outrage among the gullible and those hapless and fear-ridden individuals who see conspiracy around every darkened corner.

UglyTruth, I know you’re out there… hello!

Incidentally, Wikiriwhis Business, I’m still waiting for evidence of your claim that “sterilising of beneficiaries has been publicly announced“. Please provide a link to this public announcement. Actually, no, please provide a credible link to the public announcement.
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May 24, 2014 4:03pm
mandk

wat dabney: “Capitalism is the cure for poverty. End of story.”

Not quite the end of story. You should add: “Socialism is cruel to the people it claims to help.”
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May 24, 2014 4:19pm
Manolo

Where are UT and Kea when you need them?
http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/muslim-man-refuses-to-stand-in-court-due-to-religion/story-fnii5s3x-1226929228808

A Muslim who threatened to “slit the throat” of an intelligence officer has refused to stand for a judge in court.

Milad Bin Ahmad-Shah al-Ahmadzai, 24, yesterday declined to stand as he pleaded guilty to threatening serious harm to a Commonwealth official and using a carriage service to harass and menace.

His lawyer Nick Hanna yesterday told the District Court his client’s refusal to stand was due to his religion.
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May 24, 2014 4:36pm
griffith

Pratts we have this rubbish from you every year wattwat the same old same old hysterical nonsense. ..EH
😆
We all know about the antarctic sea ice….
The small increase in winter ice ice due to wind direction, glaciers speeding up their flow into the ocean and a fresh water layer freezing quicker…. fresh water that is from the melting land ice….
http://nsidc.org/cryosphere/seaice/characteristics/difference.html
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2014GL060140/abstract
The arctic is not “growing” its still low by historical standards… the multi year ice has even increased this year but its not at its lowest for another five months…. then it will tell us something… as it melts the change week by week is more an indication of the last weeks weather than global warming…as you know from you hysterical posts last year when it was higher than average for a few days…

Antarctic extent is all over the place from year to year two years ago it was smaller than average its now significantly larger..its trend is statistical significant increase in extent over the satellite record but its very small .

The arctic shows a steady decline over the decades with a significant trend of loss in all seasons…

Of interest is this
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2014/4
The combined average temperature over global land and ocean surfaces for April 2014 tied with 2010 as the highest on record for the month, at 0.77°C (1.39°F) above the 20th century average of 13.7°C (56.7°F).

This is with SOI neutral….
next year will be the warmest recorded by far if the el nino predicted eventuates…
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May 24, 2014 4:38pm
wat dabney

Griff,

Total global ice extent is way high.

Really, give it up.
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May 24, 2014 4:41pm
Johnboy

1613……A very bad number for a milkymild! 🙂
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May 24, 2014 4:49pm
mikenmild

Say it isn’t so, Johnboy.
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May 24, 2014 4:55pm
nasska

Did the left footers lose JB? 🙂
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May 24, 2014 4:57pm
Johnboy

Staggering stuff as Wainui downs HOBM at their homeground Hutt Rec!

Flash news from the Vatican…….Pope Francis can’t understand how his prayers for HOBM failed at that last penalty!!!! 🙂
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May 24, 2014 4:57pm
mikenmild

Revenge will be savoured in the Jubilee Cup round.
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May 24, 2014 4:59pm
griffith

Wat so what I just explained why now run along to Goddards site and explain his bullshit graph and why if he posts such rubbish you still go to him for AGW information..
and while you are at it consider the little detail that last month was the warmest on record and even kb commentators have noticed how warm it is here in nz
wing nuts go to wing nut sites repeatedly even when its proven they post a load of crap 😆
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May 24, 2014 4:59pm
Johnboy

“His lawyer Nick Hanna yesterday told the District Court his client’s refusal to stand was due to his religion.”

Nick is probably quite happy if we behead him then Manolo? 🙂
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May 24, 2014 5:06pm
griffith

And wat you paper states the increase is to 3.1 a year from the historic 1.7 so I don’t now how you add that to make no increase…. I hope you don’t handle the finances at home..
Is it you can not count ?
or are you just a deluded denier with your head in the sand
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May 24, 2014 5:06pm
Johnboy

If Nicks accounts have been settled in advance of the beheading of course! 🙂
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May 24, 2014 5:07pm
Johnboy

The eternal Minus monster still stalks the halls of KB I see!

When will I be rid of this turbulent downticker? 🙂
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May 24, 2014 5:09pm
Reid

His lawyer Nick Hanna yesterday told the District Court his client’s refusal to stand was due to his religion.

I’m one of those who firmly believe we are being deliberately setup for a global Muslim-Christian conflict and the bogus war on terror is a simple transparent propaganda meme for the sheeple who continue to act like gullible morons as they react hysterically to the latest media-manufactured “outrage,” just as they have been programmed to do.

Having said that you can’t have a global propaganda meme if the general issues its based on are palpably false and like all propaganda they use things in the Muslim faith that really do exist but where the propaganda comes in is they exaggerate both the extent of it and the seriousness of it as an issue.

As a student of human nature one thing I’ve observed is that its interesting how there are many aspect of the Muslim doctrine which closely dovetail with the cultural mindset of its adherents. Mostly in the ME but also in some elements of the Eastern Asian cultures you find quite strong elements of fanaticism in their cultural mindsets and with Islam itself being quite a strict doctrine (and possibly even having evolved that way because of the cultures in which it was founded), in some ways it creates a perfect storm of both culture and the religion when it is compared to that of the West which is by comparison much more laid back and relaxed, possibly too relaxed, in some ways.

Of course the people designing the propaganda campaign underpinning the ‘war on tewwor’ are well aware of this dichotomy and take advantage of it all the time, to draw comparisons between “us” and “them.” It would be helpful if the Western sheeple weren’t quite so self-righteous in their innate sense of their own “vast” “superiority” when it comes to civilised conduct but then if they did that they wouldn’t be called “sheeple,” would they.

But having said all of that, there are times when the Muslims could do themselves a giant favour and pull their fanatical heads in just a little bit, especially when they’re in Rome, and more especially, when they are living here under their choice and they haven’t been coerced into being here. I mean, if I go to their place, I act by their rules, the least we should be able to expect, is that they pay us the same courtesy and if they can’t see their way clear toward doing that, then fuck off.

But sadly, our politically correct Western society (yet another meme) has been taught over the last sixty or so years that when faced with such situations, we’re not allowed to adopt such attitudes, that’s wacist, or sexist, or some other “ist” or “ism” and appawently, that’s weally weally weally weally bad and we should be ashamed of ourselves for not wanting to rush out and cuddle the poor little oppwessed darlings. It’s a shame the sheeple don’t stand up against that meme as well, then we, as a society, might finally start making progress or at least, stop going backwards, as we have been, since the 1960’s when the baby boomer sheeple got sucked in to starting the whole PC psychobabble bullshit bandwagon in the name of human wights.

When will I be rid of this turbulent downticker?

I’m surprised your sheer tumescence hasn’t overwhelmed his flaccid sense of inferiority and hopelessnesslessness already, Johnboy.
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May 24, 2014 5:10pm
wat dabney

Oh the humanity.

“the new reconstruction suggests a linear trend of 1.9 ± 0.3 mm/yr [7.5 inches per century] during the 20th century”

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/05/20/new-study-finds-sea-levels-rising-only-7-in-per-century-with-no-acceleration/

7.5 inches fact, versus 7 feet alarmist claim.

The alarmist claims are not just refuted, they are blown out of the water.

But, whatever.
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May 24, 2014 5:13pm
Johnboy

Good grief Reid has your removal to the near vicinity of Temple Mount done nothing for your ecumenicalism? 🙂
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May 24, 2014 5:14pm
Johnboy

When I pop out my 7.5″ Wat the ladies get excited enough. If I showed them the whole 7′ I’d never get a fuck! 🙂
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May 24, 2014 5:17pm
Reid

has your removal to the near vicinity of Temple Mount done nothing for your ecumenicalism

When Muslims accept Jesus as their Saviour Johnboy I’ll be waiting for them with open arms.
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May 24, 2014 5:19pm
Johnboy

I’d work on the Mormons first Reid. Their closer and don’t use swords or AK47’s as a normal part of their worship! 🙂
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May 24, 2014 5:22pm
muggins

I used to have a ride-on mower with side delivery and at the first hint of rain the delivery shute would clog up with grass.
I later purchased a ride on with rear delivery and it would clog up as well but not quite so often.
Mowing a lawn in the rain is a no-brainer. Even those employed by city and borough councils to mow parks and the like avoid doing that if they can.
I use a handmower now and I still don’t mow the grass when it is wet as it just causes the grass to stick to the mower.
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May 24, 2014 5:23pm
Reid

Their closer and don’t use swords or AK47′s as a normal part of their worship!

No but they might if I start explaining to them how Joseph Smith really didn’t understand anything about anything at all. I don’t think they’d appreciate my honesty.
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May 24, 2014 5:26pm
Johnboy

I was thinking of mowing the lawn tomorrow with the electric if it doesn’t rain and I’m not too pissed muggins.

What’s your advice? 🙂
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May 24, 2014 5:27pm
nasska

Johnboy

Know thine enemy. 🙂

Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3t6iptzkx2sdw9j/Ticks%201.jpg
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May 24, 2014 5:27pm
Johnboy

Stay away from windows Reid! 🙂
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May 24, 2014 5:29pm
Johnboy

I really love being a celebrity. Thank you Minus, you poor obsessed creature.

Even though you are worthless you make everything I do worthwhile! 🙂
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May 24, 2014 5:34pm
mikenmild

A legend in your own lunchtime.
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May 24, 2014 5:44pm
Johnboy

1613 milkey. How that number galls! 🙂
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May 24, 2014 5:48pm
mikenmild

Revenge will be sweet though.
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May 24, 2014 5:49pm
Johnboy

You must admit though milkey that the poor obsessed, loser, Minus creature needs some therapy. Perhaps you could offer him a membership at HOBM? 🙂
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May 24, 2014 5:51pm
mikenmild

That’s not the sort of therapy he needs. Perhaps one of the resident godnutters could cast a magic spell over him.
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May 24, 2014 5:51pm
wat dabney

Reid,

You insights are profound, as you pierce the veil which prevents the rest of us from clearly discerning the forces which shape our lives.

Please do keep posting, just so long as you don’t put your own life in danger.

I wouldn’t have your death on my conscience.
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May 24, 2014 5:51pm
Johnboy

I’m almost certain the Ref was biased! 🙂
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May 24, 2014 5:52pm
mikenmild

Ever since they went catholic, Hutt have had the refs against them.
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May 24, 2014 5:54pm
Johnboy

That’s true milky. He’s already a loser so it could drive him over the edge if he associated with you chaps! 🙂
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May 24, 2014 5:54pm
Yvette

A legend in your own lunchtime.

La réputation est le caractère moins ce que vous avez été pris à faire.
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May 24, 2014 5:55pm
Johnboy

I hope you bring that up at the AGM when the clubs Priests are present milkey! 🙂
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May 24, 2014 5:56pm
mikenmild

Perhaps Pastor Don the Fuckwit could pray up a storm against the minus monster?
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May 24, 2014 5:56pm
Johnboy

J’ai été fait uniquement pour les femmes Yvette. 🙂
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May 24, 2014 5:58pm
mikenmild

Et pour les moutons?
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May 24, 2014 5:59pm
Johnboy

One should never take out one’s frustrations at one’s inadequacies against other folks (like Don for example) milkey! 🙂
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May 24, 2014 6:01pm
mikenmild

Don deserves what he gets. He’s a bit of a pillock, really.
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May 24, 2014 6:02pm
Johnboy

He’s never made the major mistake of not taking a penalty to draw the game when he has had the wind with him though milkey! 🙂
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May 24, 2014 6:05pm
mikenmild

You’d trust Don with the captaincy decisions? You really are disturbed!
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May 24, 2014 6:06pm
Johnboy

I really suspect that the only really disturbed chap here is you milkey.

Your glorious HOBM (despite help from the Pope) have gone down the gurgler despite your gung ho predictions the other night.

Sad and humble is where you should be. HOBM for relegation next year I suspect! 🙂
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May 24, 2014 6:11pm
mikenmild

Hutt only have to beat Wellington next week to make the top eight. Wainui in third are the best they’ll be this season.
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May 24, 2014 6:13pm
Johnboy

1613 milkey…bitter numbers for you losers to chew on! 🙂
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May 24, 2014 6:15pm
Johnboy

Fuck off Minus. You really are a sad little prick! 🙂
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May 24, 2014 6:16pm
UglyTruth

It would be helpful if the Western sheeple weren’t quite so self-righteous in their innate sense of their own “vast” “superiority” when it comes to civilised conduct but then if they did that they wouldn’t be called “sheeple,” would they.

It’s the way of the civilian, Reid. The don’t have to face the unpleasant realities of the world and so they interpret their own lack of vigilance as a kind of moral superiority.

But having said all of that, there are times when the Muslims could do themselves a giant favour and pull their fanatical heads in just a little bit, especially when they’re in Rome, and more especially, when they are living here under their choice and they haven’t been coerced into being here.

The English, particular the Scots, have a noble history of resisting Rome. In this country the law of the land is not Roman law, although some aspects have crept in, eg the doctrine of necessity.

I mean, if I go to their place, I act by their rules, the least we should be able to expect, is that they pay us the same courtesy and if they can’t see their way clear toward doing that, then fuck off.

Fair comment if they are here as citizens, but the default condition is that they they have no obligation to obey the rules.
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May 24, 2014 6:16pm
Reid

Pentagon report: scope of intelligence compromised by Snowden ‘staggering’

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/22/pentagon-report-snowden-leaks-national-security

DIA refuses to release the full report. On the grounds doing so would further compromise the intelligence effort. Which is typical. But here’s the thing. Nothing Snowden has revealed has surprised me in anyway whatsoever. Sure I didn’t know it for sure, in terms of the intel techniques he’s revealed and in terms of the data he’s released. But I suspected all of it way before anyone even heard of Edward Snowden. And I’m an amateur who merely knows how to drive google, I have no background in intelligence I am merely a lifelong student of warfare in all its forms and I have read a lot of history and, unlike some, I remember what I’ve read. And there must be millions of others just like me around the world.

And you would have thought, that if you were a professional bad-guy in the international class, then you’d damn well make it your business to be right up with the play in all of the stuff and more that Snowden is revealing. That’s simply common sense. And newsflash: high-value intelligence targets, despite what movies and the media make out, are not repeat not morons who can’t wait to blow themselves up for Allah and seventy virgins. That’s the movie version, it doesn’t happen in real life. And if an amateur like me can familiarise myself with the details in my own spare time from little ole NZ, then high-value intel targets with all their networks and all their resources (from rich e.g. Saudi donors), sure as heck can do it ten times better than I can. So what’s the REAL compromise the agencies keep munting on about?

It’s the sheeple, of course. It’s letting the sheeple know that the intel agencies have been vacuuming up every single little thing for decades and that’s not just your personal data on when and where you use your eftpos card and every single phone call you make, it’s business plans, corporate IP, huge, massive vacuums across every single area of our modern life. You think for example Smartphones are useful? Why don’t you ask your ISP whether there are any locked closets at their network junction points that anonymous people occasionally visit after hours? And if your tinpot ISP laughs at the mere suggestion, then ask them which of the major corporate ISPs they connect to and go and ask them the same question. For example. That’s what they don’t want the sheeple to know.

Of course, it’s all fine, since we don’t commit any crimes and we don’t plan on committing any, do we. But that’s now. What happens in the future, if we say, enter a wartime situation because the US and China got into conflict? What would be the case about that stuff, then? And think about when we get smart appliances, smart thermostats and fridges etc. Think Goggle paid $2 billion for Nest just for fun? What do you think that’s going to be used for? Just selling ads? Think again. For example.

I’m not making a judgement call on it either way, all I’m saying is, the intel agencies have deployed this and will continue to deploy all of this with absolutely no discussion and absolutely no opportunity for debate. And since this is OUR society we’re talking about, not THEIR society, I would have thought that our worthless, toothless, moronic Fourth-Estate “watchdog” would have been much more onto this than they have been, had they really been working in OUR interests and not in THEIRS. But of course, that couldn’t possibli be, could it.
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May 24, 2014 6:19pm
griffith

Wat twat for the third Time I will post and highlight so it easy for you
from you link at wanking with watts gag gag even.
the paper abstract

We use 1277 tide gauge records since 1807 to provide an improved global sea level reconstruction and analyse the evolution of sea level trend and acceleration. In particular we use new data from the polar regions and remote islands to improve data coverage and extend the reconstruction to 2009. There is a good agreement between the rate of sea level rise (3.2 ± 0.4 mm·yr− 1) calculated from satellite altimetry and the rate of 3.1 ± 0.6 mm·yr− 1 from tide gauge based reconstruction for the overlapping time period (1993–2009). The new reconstruction suggests a linear trend of 1.9 ± 0.3 mm·yr− 1 during the 20th century, with 1.8 ± 0.5 mm·yr− 1 since 1970. Regional linear trends for 14 ocean basins since 1970 show the fastest sea level rise for the Antarctica (4.1 ± 0.8 mm·yr− 1) and Arctic (3.6 ± 0.3 mm·yr− 1). Choice of GIA correction is critical in the trends for the local and regional sea levels, introducing up to 8 mm·yr− 1 uncertainties for individual tide gauge records, up to 2 mm·yr− 1 for regional curves and up to 0.3–0.6 mm·yr− 1 in global sea level reconstruction. We calculate an acceleration of 0.02 ± 0.01 mm·yr− 2 in global sea level (1807–2009). In comparison the steric component of sea level shows an acceleration of 0.006 mm·yr− 2 and mass loss of glaciers accelerates at 0.003 mm·yr− 2 over 200 year

,I know you have some sort of problem with comprehension but hopefully actually having the bits highlighted will help with that.
.02 a year acceleration is not liner its exponential wingnut.

Your paper says that the trend was 1.8 year last century 1.7 from 1972 and is now 3.1 a year betwen 1993 to 2009 it also says the trend that has been accelerating at .02 a year between 1807–2009..
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May 24, 2014 6:28pm
Reid

Fuck off Minus. You really are a sad little prick!

He’s like Dick Cheney Johnboy, without the warmth and charm.
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May 24, 2014 6:31pm
nasska

It’s simple to nullify the idiot’s effect Reid. Since Baity was caught wanking ticks the “karma” system is valueless.

I just go along behind & tick it up to create balance. 🙂
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May 24, 2014 6:43pm
Reid

Reid,

You insights are profound, as you pierce the veil which prevents the rest of us from clearly discerning the forces which shape our lives.

Yes wat. Truth is a funny thing isn’t it. Sometimes it matches the common view and sometimes it opposes it. Wisdom is knowing the difference. If you were living in Europe in the early to mid 1930’s, where would you be, I wonder. With Churchill as he cried in the wilderness, or against him, looking on and cheering the progress as Hitler built the most efficient economy in the world from the smoking ruins which existed just a few years before?

I just go along behind & tick it up to create balance.

I bet if you put a karma hack app on itunes it’d sell millions. Bet it would. Even adults up to round 40 want to be popular. It’s just when we reach a certain age we seem to think wine and spirits are a much better answer to life’s little problems… Or maybe that’s just my excuse.
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May 24, 2014 6:48pm
wat dabney

riff,

Remind us again how big 0.02mm is. It is effectively zero.

And please do tell us how such an immeasurably small variation could possibly be reconciled with the alarmist claim of 7 feet over the next 85 years.

If you are trying to make the alarmist case with this evidence you have already lost the argument.
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May 24, 2014 6:55pm
Viking2

Just looking at the Cambridge by pass. Some pics worth looking at.

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=Karapiro+Gully+Viaduct&biw=1366&bih=639&tbm=isch&imgil=FLNKeTuSLj5KZM%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcTHzVdXew-4nY3mi9adybHeFJHZ2ljV4XSDsWdiyziE7OUkSyUJOA%253B600%253B400%253BPvYvozQgPCYYUM%253Bhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.hera.org.nz%25252FStory%25253FAction%2525253DView%25252526Story_id%2525253D1984&source=iu&usg=__WvHXn8VQdzsR0fJ_UP70UpKpKsU%3D&sa=X&ei=J0OAU5DuA8GQkAWGnoDQBg&ved=0CEMQ9QEwBA#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=zkQlGEyVxUNjiM%253A%3B-wGN6a_JWi-CDM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.nzta.govt.nz%252Fprojects%252Fcambridge%252Fimg%252Fcambridge-by-deli-img4.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.nzta.govt.nz%252Fprojects%252Fcambridge%252Fgallery-timelapse-webcam.html%3B333%3B195
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May 24, 2014 7:04pm
RF

Fuck me I am scared. After reading the last 20 posts I am convinced the inmates have taken over the asylum.

Time to take my cyanide capsule.
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May 24, 2014 7:11pm
Reid

It’s the way of the civilian, Reid. The don’t have to face the unpleasant realities of the world and so they interpret their own lack of vigilance as a kind of moral superiority.

I’m a civilian UT. But I know what you mean.

On their lack of vigilance though I think it’s not so much that they are self-righteous but that they are ignorant and because they are ignorant they are complacent and the PTB prey on that complacency. Their ignorance is willful but they are not conscious that its willful. They are complacent that the govt is the whole answer to every little problem they have because its behaved that way in every Western nation since WWII dishing out welfare left, right and center and people thereby have conflated that behaviour with benevolence and this is why, for example, the US people by and large cannot look at the evil their govt perpetrates in their name.

And if you continue that willful ignorance for decades and generations as today’s generations in the West by and large have, you get a powerlessness creeping in which is very difficult to overcome just like losing weight is very difficult for an obese person. You also get a defensive reaction whenever that complacency is threatened which is what you and I and some others all see whenever we discuss those issues which disturb the view that our collective Western govts are benevolent and not malevolent creatures.
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May 24, 2014 7:12pm
nasska

https://www.dropbox.com/s/td5n8llxeos9h3x/urinal_prompter.jpg
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May 24, 2014 7:32pm
UglyTruth

Reid,
I don’t disagree with your description of ignorance as being a cause for dependence, it’s the way of children.
The thing about civilians is that they are supposed to be adult enough to take responsibility for their own circumstances. The problem I have with them is the assumption of superiority – they call it sovereignty. They exist within a sheltered environment and maintain that there is no accountablity to forces or agencies outside of that environment when history says the exact opposite.
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May 24, 2014 7:45pm
SPC

It looks like Norths can escape the Hardham Cup by beating Upper Hutt at Porirua, if Wainui beat OBU at William Jones then OBU are in the Hardham Cup.

OBU look to be taking merger talks with woeful Wests seriously and taking too readily to a decline to the standards of their future Ian Galloway Park hosts.
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May 24, 2014 7:46pm
SPC

Believing in every conspiracy theory created is not a sign of responsible adult hood.
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May 24, 2014 7:48pm
RF

I see the nasty party in the standard is in full flight putting the boot into Tony Astle of restaurant fame. I hear they are going to have people making bookings in his restaurant and not turning up. I guess they are trying to divert attention from the rumours about the feminist Iprent and the idiot Micky Savage. Thumb heads new minder does not like the influence of these two tossers on dear pretender and wants to keep them at arms length. He has a point as their advice up until recently has been a disaster. Especially Mickey Mouse. Not a good look.
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May 24, 2014 7:54pm
Steve (North Shore)

Seems that there are a lot of ‘red’ downticks today. Is this something the deranged idiots must do?
I mean, to like a comment is fine, but debate fails with the barrage of red ticks.
Hey DPF, how about changing the Green uptick to a blue uptick? See if we get the Red/Blue thing in context instead of a Green hint – just saying.
The commies seem to be using this Kiwiblog as a Labour Party propaganda machine
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May 24, 2014 7:59pm
EAD

Reid @ 7.12pm – good post.

I will defer to Frank Zappa on the same reality I see when I watch our kabuki theatre political & complient media in operation:

“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater”

People have handed sovereignty of their lives over to an omnipotent state, in the false belief that governments actually care for the little guy rather than being a tool for the rich and powerful (particularly the international bankers) to plunder the wealth of a once free people.
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May 24, 2014 7:59pm
nasska

The Greenie bloke who bought the lifestyle block up the road has just been round.

Bless him – someone gave him a bar of soap & he wanted to know how to cook it.
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May 24, 2014 8:00pm
All_on_Red

Wat
Look on the bright side. At least Griff read the Paper… He’s turning, slowly but surely.
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May 24, 2014 8:01pm
Reid

The problem I have with them is the assumption of superiority – they call it sovereignty. They exist within a sheltered environment and maintain that there is no accountability to forces or agencies outside of that environment when history says the exact opposite.

UT even when Kipling wrote the below, when our education system and our social value structures weren’t the smoking ruins both of those have been for some decades now, such a person wasn’t common.

Yet those are the very and only qualities we need, not want, but NEED, in spades today; in both our leaders and in those of us who elect them. Our major, massive and tragic problem is, we don’t have any. Both as a society in NZ and as a civilisation in the “West,” we are facing our sunset, because even though our opposition doesn’t have many of them either, they nevertheless have more of them than we have, and those qualities will always prevail, until the rot sets in to their Empire, in the 22nd century.

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!
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May 24, 2014 8:06pm
griffith

Wat this proves that you are as stupid as all in red the very stupid lying crybaby blubber boy.

Your claim of !.7mm a year is wrong!

Your claim of liner is wrong!

And now you are exposing even more ignorance
0 .02 is not the present acceleration in rate

Its the historic rate over the whole 200 year record.

The acceleration in the rate of change must be an exponential function to get a fit with the resent 3.1per year!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_growth

This is why the graph of Goddard and even watts post are pure rubbish unsupported by the paper linked to .Obvious at even my level of basic school boy math.

😆
red and wat wanking each over off again
you are both idiots licking each other only proves you both are as stupid as each other
now cry baby go complain to dpf blubber boY:lol:
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May 24, 2014 8:08pm
All_on_Red

0.02
Lol
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May 24, 2014 8:17pm
goldnkiwi

Not political at all then, a QC really, the maximum is $1000.00 fine.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/10078985/Ex-Labour-MP-to-defend-ball-throwing-accused
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May 24, 2014 8:21pm
griffith

😆
at you idiot
incapable of even basic math
hows the demerits going blubber boy? blub blub blub.
😆
I am still here and still calling you stupid and you are proving it every post you make.

as for you and wat

😆

Its called a circle jerk when two idiots try to support each others stupidity
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May 24, 2014 8:31pm
All_on_Red

You seriously need help Griff. You’ve been dealt to all day.
Sleep well.
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May 24, 2014 8:33pm
All_on_Red

I have a few friends who are regular smokers of marijuana. A couple have been doing it every day for almost forty years or so. I do notice that when it’s wearing off they become very irritable and grumpy. Paranoid too. It affects their moods quite a lot…
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May 24, 2014 8:41pm
Reid

I have a few friends who are regular smokers of marijuana.

Most accurate and penetrating observation I’ve ever heard on marijuana came from Southpark, and you’d imagine Trey Parker and Matt Stone might know:

“Marijuana makes it OK to do nothing.”

It’s true. It does. Look at every single heavy smoker. That’s their problem. Sure, they might be floating through work but they’re not advancing. It’s only when they stop smoking that they start doing that. Otherwise, they just hold water, on their careers. Every. Single. One.

That’s the counseling key to stopping them, if they care about their career.
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May 24, 2014 8:47pm
nasska

….“Marijuana makes it OK to do nothing.”…..

Bollocks….it just makes you realise that it wasn’t worth the trouble to do whatever it was that you were going to do in the first place. 🙂
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May 24, 2014 8:51pm
griffith

😆
parrot chess# as well as lying fuckwit well I never 😆 adds to the circle jerk
your first post and you were pawned on it blub blub

“

The most recent satellite derived global sea level rise study available (abstract link below) determined that the rate shows no acceleration whatsoever in the period from 1992 to 2011 and amounts to only about 7 inches per century. Specifically this sea level rise study notes:

1 it not a satellite derived study..
2 its does not say no acceleration.
3 its not 1.7 for the latest period.

This is a simple case of your stupidity showing blubbery.

Then you emailed DPF

Trying to get me banned for calling you a stupid bullshitter

😆 blubbery I proved you are a stupid bullshitter 😆

Now you are claiming you have won
😆
blub blub blub.
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May 24, 2014 9:14pm
Reid

Bollocks….it just makes you realise that it wasn’t worth the trouble to do whatever it was that you were going to do in the first place.

It’s a shame marijuana doesn’t make you not want to watch porn.

I suspect there’d be a lot less usage of both if so.
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May 24, 2014 9:29pm
nasska

….”It’s a shame marijuana doesn’t make you not want to watch porn.

I suspect there’d be a lot less usage of both if so.”…..

You’re taking me back a bit Reid…..probably about the time of the “Super 6” movie tapes. I remember we used to get stoned on weak weed & pissed on flagon beer watching them when opportunity arose.

The greatest fun was running the film in reverse & seeing John Holmes use his equipment like a vacuum cleaner. 🙂
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May 24, 2014 9:40pm
wat dabney

Griff,

You keep triumphantly pointing out that the alarmist claim of seven feet of sea rise in the next 85 years is complete bunk, since that the rate of acceleration is actually effectively zero.

I guess that makes you a denier.
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May 24, 2014 9:42pm
SPC

The rising of the sea level is dependent on events that occur at the poles.

Little happens till a tipping point is reached.
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May 24, 2014 9:48pm
griffith

😆 You are stupid whatatwat 0.02 year is not =0 and it is the historic figure for sea level rise acceleration over the whole record. This figure comes from a paper A Watts posted on his site and maintained there is no acceleration in sea level rise.

Griff has not posted 7ft at any time this is an extension of your mental delusions.

You and all in red go to sites that a school boy can prove full of shit
Ignorance is one thing.
Denial is a entirely different kettle of fish
It is a mental problem you and all in red have… called conspiratorial idealization… you hold that the worlds scientists are in a massive conspiracy and go to alt science site to have this confirmed. You keep going back even though they tell you bullshit because it fits in with your madness. 😆 pathetic 😆
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May 25, 2014 7:58am
All_on_Red

Err Griff, I’m the one who posted a Published Peer Reviewed Scientific Paper ( which you agree with btw- sae level rise is currently 3 mm per year ) and you are the one who posts a clip by a comedian who think the discredited Cook paper on 97% etc is real!
You need to realise you are a laughing stock on KB with your deluded ramblings and that we are all tired of your abusive comments. Sure every village needs it’s idiot but you really do ruin this blog.

Note to self- leave Griff alone, after all , you didn’t pick on the retarded kids at school.
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May 25, 2014 11:36am
wikiriwhis business

“Believing in every conspiracy theory created is not a sign of responsible adult hood.”

Comprehending govt’s have personal agenda’s that have nothing to do with the good of the people is exact adulthood
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May 25, 2014 12:21pm
wikiriwhis business

“Incidentally, Wikiriwhis Business, I’m still waiting for evidence of your claim that “sterilising of beneficiaries has been publicly announced“. Please provide a link to this public announcement. Actually, no, please provide a credible link to the public announcement.”

youtube it as usual.

Also, Joe Biden’s announcement of the New World Order.
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