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May 14, 2014 8:00am by Kokila Patel

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UglyTruth

Ugly, we can agree that empire is linked to the way of murder and the bible alludes to this repeatedly.

Yes, and murder and slander are related:

Ye [Pharisees] are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him.
John 8:44
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May 14, 2014 6:35pm
mikenmild

Specifically Kea, when in my lifetime did 100 million perish in China? Hint:
I am not yet 50.
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May 14, 2014 6:37pm
wikiriwhis business

“Alex, governments are creations of people, and legal persons are creations of government. Assuming that people and persons have the same status leads to absurdity regarding responsibility.”

Corporations are people the Suprmeme Court tells us
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May 14, 2014 6:38pm
SPC

Ugly, thus the term character assassination. This preceded Christian hate of Pharisees/ Jews. Then the murder of Jews as a hate crime when Christians were in imperial power.
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May 14, 2014 6:40pm
Kea

milky, you support socialists. The same people as the Nazi, the USSR, Pol Pot, Mao, and cry “Troll” like the little piece of craven shit you are when you are called out. No matter how much you chant troll with your ignorant hate filled christian bigot mates, you will not conjure up a single fact to support your position.

You represent the very worst of the human condition. So the more I upset filth like you the bigger the compliment I feel.
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May 14, 2014 6:41pm
SPC

Kea, 6.28pm stop lying about the opinions of those you debate with.
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May 14, 2014 6:44pm
Kea

Predictably not one of you filthy little creeps had a thing to say about this, other than to suggest it was not christians who did it. Was it Jews then ? Well no. The Jews sheltered with the Muslims there when you christians were killing them !

This WAS during your lifetime milky. In fact people your age did it.

http://srebrenica-genocide.blogspot.co.nz/2011/03/bosnian-genocide-pictures-are-worth.html
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May 14, 2014 6:45pm
SPC

Kea, 6.41pm stop lying about the opinions of those you debate with. This character assassination is a form of hate crime of those who disagree with you. It is why the term troll then fits you like a glove.
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May 14, 2014 6:46pm
wikiriwhis business

First wheelchair-bound prime minister?

My name is Joshua Perry. I was the first wheelchair-bound model to drive down the catwalk at New Zealand Fashion Week in 2011.

Now, I feel called to stand up for those people with disabilities that cannot speak for themselves.

I recently moved from Christchurch to Dunedin after the earthquakes.

I do not believe that the current government is doing a fast enough job rebuilding Christchurch.

When the earthquakes hit on February 22nd, I was stuck at the Polytech and it has affected the way I think to this day.

If I became the prime minister after the next election, I would improve CERA and let people get on with their lives.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff-nation/assignments/share-your-news-and-views/10042745/First-wheelchair-bound-prime-minister
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May 14, 2014 6:46pm
Kea

“Kea, 6.28pm stop lying about the opinions of those you debate with.”

SPC, If you thought otherwise you would have had a go at ShawnLH and his absurd attempt at telling us we (Goy)
owe the Jews for eternity.

You must remember ShawnLH is probably an honest decent bloke most of the time. But he feels biblically justified in lying to protect Jews and dropping all normal morality in defense of “gods chosen ones”

He won’t admit it, but that makes it no less true.
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May 14, 2014 6:51pm
mikenmild

I’ll ask again Kea, although I know you won’t answer (you don’t when called out on bullshit): What was it about the Srebrenica massacre that made it a specifically christian crime?
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May 14, 2014 6:52pm
Kea

“character assassination is a form of hate crime”

“troll” blah blah

The irony of you bigots. It hurts 🙂
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May 14, 2014 6:53pm
Kea

“What was it about the Srebrenica massacre that made it a specifically christian crime?”

milky, Because Christians did it and did it for religious reasons. How did you miss that ?

My turn:

What was it about the holocaust [the earlier one] that made it a specifically European crime ?
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May 14, 2014 6:55pm
SPC

Kea, re the China death toll, not as high as 100m. It was c30-40M in the cultural revolution. The death toll under Mao’s regime would have been well over 50M as high as 75M? – partly as a result of failed economic policies in the 50’s. Of course this excludes those who died in the struggle for power over China before 1949.
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May 14, 2014 6:56pm
SPC

Kea, 6.51, I dealt with the two extremists in my 6.13pm post

May 14th, 2014 at 6:13 pm
Between Shawn and Kea, there is some distance.

The historic suffering of Jews is not insignificant compared to other peoples, but only the most colonialist of European empires would think that justified Nakba. The irony is that the British did not intend Nakba, but continued paternalist over-rule of both, it was Jewish nationalist resistance to European colonialism by the British that lead to Nakba – whereby the Jewish state was formed over Arab resistance.
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May 14, 2014 6:59pm
Kea

SPC, the figures are all over the place. 100 million was what I read in a book called Red Sorrow. It is the highest figure I have heard.

I noticed you say 30-40 million in the Cultural Revolution, but just plain forgot about the Great Leap Forward. Yet would you forget how many Jews died in the war ?

And please do not even bother telling me it was accidental starvation that killed them all. Many millions died hideous deaths through mistreatment. The official records are very slowly being released and it is too distressing for me to even read on further. (A bit like it would be for you reading about the master race of Jews suffering)

https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/nanchu/red-sorrow/
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May 14, 2014 7:02pm
SPC

Kea, when the Serbs killed Croats, Slovenes and Bosnians and those of Kosovo for seeking independence from Yugoslavia, as part of building a greater Serbia in place of Yugoslavia, when were they acting as Christians?
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May 14, 2014 7:02pm
Kea

SPC, if the Jewish holocaust was not a failed economic policy, then what was it ?

You did not even bother to mention The Great Leap. It was nothing. Yet tens of millions died. Imagine someone forgetting the holocaust happened !!!

The Great Leap Forward constituted genocide, as Mao employed all of Stanton’s “Eight Steps of Genocide” against his Chinese compatriots in his unsuccessful effort to launch China into a sterling model of communism.

The extermination of twenty to forty-three million Chinese citizens was a direct result of the manmade famine that was a byproduct of Mao’s Great Leap Forward. The Chinese government denied the genocide by officially assigning an under-inflated death toll of fourteen million people.

http://www.ncas.rutgers.edu/mao-and-great-leap-forward
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May 14, 2014 7:13pm
SPC

Kea, if the Great Leap Forward was not a failed economic policy, then what was it? Yes there was deliberation to it (lack of concern for the peoples well-being), just as there was in the collectivisation of farms in Russia/Ukraine. The point of difference between these political crimes by the ruling government to the historic persecution of Jews, is that they were done by the communist regimes to their own people, it was not a persecution by one group of another (except in the sense of ruler and ruled)
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May 14, 2014 7:17pm
Kea

60 Million Dead (SPC clean forgot about this. But luckily remembered some Jews died in a global conflict before he was born.)

the only party was the one that ruthlessly beat and tortured them into submission and condemned them to a cruel life and a terrible death.

they dictated that those too old or too sick to work would not be fed in the communal kitchens. They would be left to starve to death, and the sooner the better.

Villagers caught trying to hide or hoard food were clubbed to death. Ears were lopped off, hair ripped out, people branded with hot irons; they were forced to eat excrement, doused in petrol and set alight.

Dikotter found evidence of all these punishments for offences as small as digging up a potato. In all, he estimated 2.5 million people were beaten or tortured to death.

Youth was no excuse. A 12-year-old boy was drowned in a pond like a kitten for stealing food from the communal canteen.
After a boy took a handful of grains, his father was forced to bury him alive.

Women were raped at will by party officials and the militia who policed the communes. For minor infractions, it was not unusual for them to be paraded naked through their villages, a humiliation that caused many to kill themselves.

Women also carried the heavier burden of trying to save their children and all too often failing. A starving mother accused of stealing a few grains of rice for her two children jumped into a river to drown with them strapped to her back.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017839/Madman-starved-60-million-death-Devastating-book-reveals-Maos-megalomania-turned-China-madhouse.html#ixzz31fjloSKz
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May 14, 2014 7:23pm
SPC

Kea, the topic was your claim that 100M died in China during mikenmild’s lifetime. He is under 50.
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May 14, 2014 7:27pm
Kea

The point of difference between these political crimes by the ruling government to the historic persecution of Jews, is that they were done by the communist regimes to their own people, it was not a persecution by one group of another (except in the sense of ruler and ruled)

SPC, so that makes it worse to those people how ? More special pleading for gods master race, but not the lessor yellow heathens.

You disgust me in a way I simply can not express. You filthy little creep.

[DPF: 20 demerits. You are now on 90. 10 more and the next suspension is for 4 months]
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May 14, 2014 7:29pm
SPC

Kea, from your own link.

“The first step, he decreed, was a massive irrigation programme to build dams and reservoirs. Peasants who were just about to bring in the corn and rice harvests were hauled off the land and directed in their millions to this gruelling, slave labour with picks and shovels. In their absence, crops rotted in the soil. There was the first shortage of food that winter.”

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017839/Madman-starved-60-million-death-Devastating-book-reveals-Maos-megalomania-turned-China-madhouse.html#ixzz31fmLglv2

This sort of central command can result in economic failure. It can kill as many as deliberate political crimes.
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May 14, 2014 7:32pm
Kea

SPC, if the Jewish holocaust was not a failed economic policy, then what was it ?
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May 14, 2014 7:34pm
SPC

Kea, 7.29pm, yes we all understand you, you will attack anyone who stands up to you when you vent on this topic of your right to accuse Jews of claiming to be a master race and your having a special hate for those who are not Jews who find this offensive.
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May 14, 2014 7:39pm
SPC

Kea, if those targeted were Jews, it was not an economic policy.
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May 14, 2014 7:43pm
mikenmild

How was the holocaust a ‘failed economic policy’?
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May 14, 2014 7:45pm
SPC

First they will claim that the crimes by communists against humanity were greater.

Then they will claim that greater crimes of inter-group hate have occurred

That the persecution of Jews across over a thousand years and the ultimate attempt to eliminate them from Europe was nothing special

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_…
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May 14, 2014 7:47pm
Kea

SPC, Jews do claim to be special. I don’t care as many others think the same.

What pisses me of is filth like you who try and minimise the most appalling wrongs against others to make it look like jews are somehow special. They are not and they are not persecuted today. History is littered with example of people LIKE YOU who persecute particular groups.

My claim was that the holocaust was not the worst thing to happen. I provided examples. Tell me about the Roma “right of return/homeland” . They suffered everything the Jews did. Tell me your views on them being given someone elses land, say in some Jewish neighborhood in the US, for example.

Yeah right !
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May 14, 2014 7:58pm
stephieboy

The situation of the Jews is in many ways is unique the Great Leap Forward notwithstanding.The former was a disastrous attempt by Mao and the Communist Party to leapfrog China into a modern industrial state regardless of the consequences, Similar to Stalin’s equally disastrous collectivization policies in the Ukraine as SPC has both referred to.
The Jews as we all know have survived against terrific odds whilst the Persian, Babylonian , Assyrian, Egyptian , Mede etc empires have come and gone. They’ve survived the destruction of Jerusalem and the three revolts under the Romans with the following diaspora. Not forgetting the Persecution the middle ages and subsequently.
Possibly their crowning achievement include ethical and moral principles and foundation that has helped formed the basis of Western Civilization. Additionally the fact that as 2% of the world’s population they’ve have contributed to 22% of the Nobel Prizes where it really matters i.e. the hard sciences ( Physics, Chemistry, Biology etc ). That alone is phenomenal and worth pondering about.
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May 14, 2014 8:00pm
nasska

“Did you hear the news?

“276 girls kidnapped by rebel army of Hamilton atheists which is engaged in on-going fighting with agnostics in Tauranga.”

Me neither.
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May 14, 2014 8:01pm
mikenmild

Everyone on GD happy dancing along to Kea’s tune?
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May 14, 2014 8:02pm
SPC

Kea, yes we get it when someone does not agree with you, you resort to associating them with some crime against humanity – so you can fell holier than thou. Is this your personal Kea cult belief about how you have superior morality to others?
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May 14, 2014 8:05pm
Kea

Wow just look how these Jeewws suffer out side of the homeland. So terrible ! Better divert aid from the Gaza strip and rush to Europe to help these persecuted people. FFS !!!

the Jerusalem Post

Forbes ranking: The world’s richest Jews

” For example, Oracle CEO Larry Ellison’s net worth grew $7 billion to $43b. New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s net worth rose $5b., and the net worth of both Google founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin rose $4.3b. to $23b. The net worth of Len Blavatnik, who recently acquired Clal Industries, jumped $4.1b. to $16b.”

http://www.jpost.com/Business/Business-Features/Forbes-ranking-The-worlds-richest-Jews-310104
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May 14, 2014 8:06pm
Kea

“The situation of the Jews is in many ways is unique the Great Leap Forward notwithstanding.”

The situation of the Chinese is in many ways is unique the holocaust notwithstanding.

“SPC (4,925 comments) says:
May 14th, 2014 at 8:05 pm
Kea, yes we get it when someone does not agree with you, you resort to associating them with some crime against humanity ”

Like calling them Neo Nazis ? Yeah annoying a bigot ?

“Kea, if those targeted were Jews, it was not an economic policy.”

Kea, if those targeted were land owners, it was not an economic policy.
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May 14, 2014 8:08pm
nasska

He’s expressing an opinion, same as most of us Mike.

We can each agree or disagree as we wish.
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May 14, 2014 8:09pm
SPC

Kea, yes we get it you hate the fact that the state of Israel exists and wish it were otherwise.
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May 14, 2014 8:10pm
SPC

mikenmild, 6.18pm, I think you are wrong about Kea. The one topic on which he has firm opinions and will quickly resort to attacks on others is on Israel and the “master race” tag fro Jews”. He is sincere on this topic and his combativeness is no pose.
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May 14, 2014 8:16pm
SPC

nasska, yes but on some topics some people are unable to remain civil to others.
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May 14, 2014 8:17pm
stephieboy

The worlds’s richest Arabs,

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/photos/the-world-s-richest-arabs-2013-530689.html?img=0#.U3MmkyjLh0g

Not doing that badly at all.!
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May 14, 2014 8:19pm
Left Right and Centre

Everyone on GD happy dancing along to Kea’s tune?

I don’t see the harmony in it.
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May 14, 2014 8:21pm
Kea

SPC, I would have some time for you if I thought you were sincere. You are not. You are not sincere and you are not revealing your true thoughts. The sort of slippery bullshit above, where you attempt to divert attention from the real point, shows that clearly.

Israel will not last in its current state so don’t get too excited. One day the supremacist state will collapse as do all such places. No more DNA tests for race purity etc. The Jew can not live without its host and its host is dying. Sorry about that. Good news though. Those Israelis who don’t like living as a united people with the Arabs can return to their prosperous easy lives in Europe. All the others will live happily together as they did before the racial supremacists came and fucked it up.

The war and the killing will stop. ShawnLH and assorted bigots will still be free to think of them as the master race. No harm done.
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May 14, 2014 8:22pm
mikenmild

I’m not actually sure that Kea has any firm opinions of his own. He just likes to troll along merrily and then harp on about particular topics when he gets a reaction.
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May 14, 2014 8:23pm
Johnboy

Did you say hello to the Ferret Milky? 🙂
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May 14, 2014 8:28pm
Kea

“He is sincere on this topic and his combativeness is no pose.”

SPC, sorry that pushing me around is not like a Israeli “soldier” shooting rock throwing kids from his American Tank.

The funny thing is how many Jews have views much much stronger than mine about this. Whole segments of Judaism are totally opposed to Israel and those groups are rapidly growing. The Israeli government is desperate as they will not even serve in the army and refuse to work. Maybe you pricks could call them “Troll” or “Nazi”. That should fix it 🙂
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May 14, 2014 8:29pm
SPC

Kea, you seem to take some consolation in the future going the way you want, something common to those who believe in religious prophecy. For Christians and Moslems world dominion, for some Jews some eretz Israel style state with regional hegemon, that the world has to co-exist with.

Sorry about not appreciating the Kea cause crusade ship and climbing aboard to applaud the strategy and tactics without question.

It really really must be some strategy on my part, rather than any sincere disagreement.
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May 14, 2014 8:31pm
stephieboy

The so called “supremacist ” Israel state will survive like their Jewish inhabitants have done so for the last 3000 or so years. One reason is they are dealing with a highly irrational enemy including am extremely irrational and deluded one like kea.

Pat Condell expands further on this ,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNNhG0zDtA8
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May 14, 2014 8:35pm
SPC

Kea, yes of course anyone contending with your argument, and getting personal abuse from you for it, is trying to bully you.
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May 14, 2014 8:35pm
Kea

SPC, you won’t see me persecuting anyone. I don’t do what you do and I don’t follow orders from your type.
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May 14, 2014 8:36pm
Steve (North Shore)

Linda has her period again:
http://thestandard.org.nz/the-desperation-of-the-nationals-sockpuppets/#comments

Full moon is tomorrow
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May 14, 2014 8:37pm
Kea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4shqQJDdCA
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May 14, 2014 8:38pm
SPC

Kea, “The funny thing is how many Jews have views much much stronger than mine about this”

In that Jews of religious cults (Ultra-Orthodox) are like Christians and Moslems in their judgement of the unbelieving Jew.

More interesting is the post nationalism of some of the secular Jews.
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May 14, 2014 8:39pm
Kea

here is another for you stupidboy. It one of my favourites. 🙂

YOUR FAITH IS A JOKE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4dSiHqpULk
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May 14, 2014 8:39pm
SPC

Kea, 8.36. so you pose those who don’t agree with you with persecuting people and giving orders.

Is this supposed to wound the sensibilities of weak liberals, would they feel intimidated by the debate declining to this aggressive tone/personal abuse?

Start the day with a provocation and end it with attacks on those who question it.
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May 14, 2014 8:47pm
Left Right and Centre

kea & nasska remind me of Darth Vader & The Emperor.

Darth Vader did all the work and all the talking. But you knew who was boss.
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May 14, 2014 8:53pm
Left Right and Centre

Random comment: My best day on KB was when one comment received more downticks than Penny’s redder posts.
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May 14, 2014 8:55pm
Kea

SPC, I was clearly challenging ShawnLH’s claim of Jewish exceptionalism. And get of your high horse with the whole “abuse” thing. The fact is you are okay with it when it is against someone who does not support your raging prejudices. Just as the slaughter of millions is minimised by you if they are not of pure Jewish stock. With the incredibly piss weak argument that the Nazi wanted to kill Jews, so that made it exceptional and somehow worse !

You have simply driven me to conclude you are a one eyed bigot with that sort of vapid nonsense. You might write off all of Asia, all Muslims etc as less human or worthy, but don’t expect me to join in your poorly disguised supremacist doctrine. I would not want to be a Chinese Muslim with pricks like you running the country !
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May 14, 2014 8:55pm
Kea

LRC, for maximum down ticks, accurate bible quotes or the writings of Rabbis simply cut n’ pasted work best. Trust me 🙂
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May 14, 2014 8:58pm
SPC

Kea, so according to you I have raging prejudices, and I favour abuse, because you were challenging someone else’s prejudices with your own? When the debate gets going Ugly and Reid remain consistent to themselves, you just lose rationality.
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May 14, 2014 9:03pm
stephieboy

Yes Pat Condell is an Atheist and is entitled his point of view but he rises above this and leaves his more harsher , more pertinent criticism to your Islam and reserves his unstinting praise for Jews and Israel.
Life is full of paradoxes and incongruities.But you can have your Iran or Saudi Arabia and Pat and me can enjoy our Israel.

I’M OFFENDED BY ISLAM.. … in so many, many , many ways…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxlO7DLC6p8

kea lose rationality.? the video above will explain why.?
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May 14, 2014 9:03pm
Left Right and Centre

The NZ vernacular promotes “arsehole” as opposed to the Americanism “asshole”.

Although I agree wholeheartedly – I can feel my own atittude towards American spelling softening the more that I am exposed to it. Cultural assimilation. Asshole is also just funnier to use when speaking – and the American version also has slightly different shades of meaning than the Commonwealth version. Whereas arsehole really only means total prick – asshole can also describe for eg someone dressed like an idiot – you look like an asshole. What kind of asshole blah blah does such and such ? It’s more akin to clown or moron rather than purely just evil damaged fucked up cunt. It can be a bit softer in Americanese.

But I use it appreciating the difference. The latest generation use it as if they are in fact natural Americans.
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May 14, 2014 9:06pm
Left Right and Centre

LRC, for maximum down ticks, accurate bible quotes or the writings of Rabbis simply cut n’ pasted work best. Trust me

Or change username dropping ‘right’ and ‘centre’. That would be a twenty downtick minimum just to get through the door . . .
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May 14, 2014 9:09pm
Kea

Yes Pat Condell is an Atheist and is entitled his point of view but he rises above this

The arrogance is breath taking, but more interesting is the special pleading that features in all stupidboys emissions. Pat is worth listening to, but not if he disagrees with stupidboys faith, but especially worth listening to if he is critical of Muslim, but not Jews and not Christians… and on it goes. Never a principle to be found or one ounce of intellectual honesty.

You want to shut me up ? Then tell the bloody truth. Admit your religious bias. You are trying to dress up blind faith as logic. Faith is belief without evidence or logic, not with reason and logic. Simply admit the bible says Jews are special and Muslims are the poor relation, so you go with that. I might disagree ( I will ) but its an honestly stated opinion I could have limited response to.
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May 14, 2014 9:13pm
Kea

LRC, I wonder if the user name -Ismail Bin Mohamed- is taken on KB yet ? 😉
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May 14, 2014 9:19pm
ShawnLH

“well because Kea bases ideas on known facts and not ideology.”

Bullshit.

Claiming the Holocaust was nothing special is ideology, not fact. It’s not just a matter of the death toll, it’s the attempt to wipe out an entire ethnic group. Nor was it a failed economic policy. What the hell did the death camps have to do with economic policy?

Not only are you profoundly ignorant about the Holocaust and the reasons for it, your own rhetoric regarding the Jews is pure ideology.

Your really making yourself look like a pratt Kea, a deeply ill-informed pratt.
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May 14, 2014 9:23pm
ShawnLH

“ShawnLH and assorted bigots will still be free to think of them as the master race. No harm done.”

Except I don’t. Thats your lie Kea, because your too stupid to come up with a fact based, rational argument, because there is none for your claims.

I don’t think the Jews are a master race moron. Nobody does except you.

If you have to lie to make your case, you have no case to make.
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May 14, 2014 9:26pm
SPC

Kea, “Simply admit the bible says Jews are special and Muslims are the poor relation”

Why, and how, the bible does not mention Moslems.
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May 14, 2014 9:29pm
ShawnLH

“You are trying to dress up blind faith as logic. Faith is belief without evidence or logic, not with reason and logic.”

Well, lets tear this little bit of stupidity to shreds.

Faith is belief WITH reason, That is how it has always been defined and practiced in the Church.

But reason is not in fact your strong point Kea. What you have is hatred, nothing more rational than that. You claim you don’t, but since coming on KB your rhetoric ragrding the Jews has never been about facts, but ranting and trolling hate.

Nothing more.

By comparison those with faith AND reason make you look like a dribbling simpleton.
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May 14, 2014 9:30pm
Tom Jackson

Jesus H Christ. Not another fucking Jew thread.

Right. Gone until after the election.

This place has steadily gone crazier and crazier and the wild photoshop accusations are just the latest exercise in drooling and gibbering, and Farrar himself joined in on that clusterfuck.
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May 14, 2014 9:30pm
ShawnLH

The Bible doesn’t say the Jews are special. Nowhere in Scripture is that stated. So we are back to either lies, or as I suspect, ignorance. The Bible says the Jews were chosen because they were the least in the world, not because they were special.

But this is just par for the course with someone who could claim the holocaust was nothing special.

No reason is being employed here by Kea. Just ignorance based prejudice.
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May 14, 2014 9:33pm
stephieboy

kea, your much safer blabbering on and not shutting up. No one is going to stone you for blasphemy, apostasy, adultery etc. here. Faith. logic , religious bias.??? Its a lot more simple than that fortunately.
Our Pat Condell is spot on about radical and the highly irrational Islam that you love and worship , and spot on about the Israel and Jews that you so fervently hate .!
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May 14, 2014 9:35pm
Left Right and Centre

That story was rehearsed ,stage managed and dreadfully stilted

Shit – I hate it when I have to agree with even one kowtow sentence. It makes my sack shrink.
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May 14, 2014 9:39pm
ShawnLH

The Bible does not mention Muslims at all. It could not do so, because the Muslim faith was not born until 622 A.D.!! DUH! 🙂

Cripes, a person would really have to work hard to attain that level of utter stupidity! 🙂

Facts and reason my ass!!! 🙂 LOL

Give it rest Kea. You already look like a total moron! 🙂
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May 14, 2014 9:41pm
Kea

The holocaust was terrible. Beyond belief. But as I have shown, far worse has happened and attracts ZERO comment from you ShawnLH.

At least you have clearly stated you do in fact think the Jews are special and the Goyim do in fact owe them and should give them special consideration and defer to them. I disagree, but at least you almost told the truth about your real beliefs. You are nearly there to shutting me up 😉

You must remember my ancestors did not persecute Jews, so I don’t have the guilt complex or the religious belief you do. Get it ?
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May 14, 2014 9:42pm
ShawnLH

“The arrogance is breath taking, ”

No, your stupidity and ignorance is breathtaking!!! 🙂

The Bible mentions Muslims???? LMFAO!!!!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂
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May 14, 2014 9:43pm
ShawnLH

“But as I have shown, far worse has happened and attracts ZERO comment from you ShawnLH.”

No, all you did was compare numbers, nothing more, which was never the point dumbass.

And the reason I said nothing was because I have been out.

Idiot.
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May 14, 2014 9:44pm
ShawnLH

“At least you have clearly stated you do in fact think the Jews are special and the Goyim do in fact owe them and should give them special consideration and defer to them. ”

No I didn’t you lying moron. That is just your brainless hysteria.

What I said was that the holocaust means we have a responsibility not to repeat the same crap that led to it in the first place.

That is not saying the Jews themselves are special just for being Jews.

My meaning was obvious to anyone with more than two braincells to rub together! 🙂

And you started this farce by claiming that the Holocaust was no different to people disliking Rugby fans!!! LOL!!!!:)

That comment alone makes Ugly and Reid look sane and intelligent compared to you!!! 🙂

I’m done with you. You don’t deserve my time. Mike is right. Not only are you an ignorant moron spouting on subjects you clearly have no clue about, you’re a troll just trying to get a response.

Best way to kill a troll is stop feeding them.

Bye bye now! 🙂
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May 14, 2014 9:49pm
Kea

ShawnLH, I know enough about the bible fable to know a special place is promised for you in the deepest bowels of Hell.

You have had plenty of time to comment on the horrors suffered by your fellow man in China in recent decades, but you said nothing. At least 60 million dead. Unspeakable suffering and torture. No comment. They were not Jews.

This is from the 90’s. They are Muslim. No comment. Not Jews.

http://srebrenica-genocide.blogspot.co.nz/2011/03/bosnian-genocide-pictures-are-worth.html

The other tens of millions dead in the war. No comment. Not Jews.
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May 14, 2014 9:49pm
Kea

What I said was that the holocaust means we have a responsibility not to repeat the same crap that led to it in the first place.

Oh but we did. Oh yes indeed we did. 60 million in China. Concentration camps and pogroms through out communist Europe. All after the war.

Did you catch this: http://srebrenica-genocide.blogspot.co.nz/2011/03/bosnian-genocide-pictures-are-worth.html

So how does this keep on happening. Well my friend because of people like you and stupidboy. That is the sad thing about it. Collectively the Jews know this. They know how fickle your hate is and they do not trust the Christian Goy.
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May 14, 2014 9:54pm
UglyTruth

Our Pat Condell is spot on about radical and the highly irrational Islam that you love and worship

Pat Condell is a stupid bigot.
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May 14, 2014 9:55pm
ShawnLH

“LRC, for maximum down ticks, accurate bible quotes”

Like claiming the Bible mentions Muslims????

LMFAO!!!!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

No Kea, genocides happen because of ignorant, ill-informed haters like you!

How many millions were killed by atheists in the 20th century huh?

Atheists like you who hated religion and spouted about “reason” killed hundreds of million in less than a century.

Combine that with his bigoted Jew hatred and the biggest candidate on this blog for potential genocide and fun times at the concentrations camps is……..

KEA!!! 🙂

Night all!!!

I’m going to tell my wife that there are according to Kea Muslims in the Bible! She’ll get a damned good laugh out of that one!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

What a total pratt! 🙂
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May 14, 2014 10:04pm
UglyTruth

Like claiming the Bible mentions Muslims????

The term “Muslim” means someone who submits to Allah, it does not refer exclusively to those who call themselves Muslims. The first century disciples were called the people of the way, just as sharia means the way.

http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/120556

The words Islam and Muslim come from the same 3 letter root word (s,l and m) in arabic. Islam by definition means surrender and submission only to the one true creator. A muslim by definition means one who surrenders and submits to the laws of God.
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May 14, 2014 10:09pm
Left Right and Centre

Bye bye now!

Jesus Christ on a bike mate – don’t just say it.
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May 14, 2014 10:10pm
SPC

Ugly, did the “laws of God” change, evolve or multiply between the first century BCE and the seventh century CE?

You do realise that the imperial “peace”, would be different as per who decided what the law of God was?
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May 14, 2014 10:18pm
Left Right and Centre

Life of a dieter . . . must see content . . . ready yourself . . .

Even at the severe cost of putting a one hour dent in a steady flow of ‘good’ TV – had decided to make the trek to the shops. A bit of exercise and excitement. ‘Exercitement’ ? (don’t think excrement). Headed to Countdown where the bakery specials are out at night – not the morning. This week’s rule is – six cream buns reduced to $2 or less or nothing. It was nothing. Coke range 1.5 3 for $6. Scored me two Fanta Zeros and a Lift Zero. One bottle left now – they are damned good.

Been a ‘vegetarian’ for about a week now. Trim milk the only animal product – whoa.

Could probably exist on vegetables alone. Spooky. And tea and zero soft drink. Had a reading 1.3kg under the A+ target. I had to shitgrin – that’s stupidly good – hehe. The novelty of losing 16-18kg (18-20kg ?) still hasn’t worn off after 17 months. I don’t think I can easily remember how my body was anymore.
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May 15, 2014 3:59am
Left Right and Centre

Life of a dieter . . . the late morning edition . . .

This is probably dysfunctional. Hit pak n save at opening time. Why ? Their bakery specials are early worm. 1kg of next day raspberry buns $3. Picked them up – walked around shop – started rationalisation process and it was game over. Took a long long time but eventually put them back grudgingly.

Can’t leave empty handed. Custard 1kg $4 ? Walked around shop with custard. Eventually settled back on FnF lite berry trio six pack $3 and a few sweets from the now open local dairy. (custard or yoghurt get eaten with porridge and fruit – divine)

Social conditioning – powerful stuff. That took an hour to buy one food item.
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May 15, 2014 8:02am
UglyTruth

Ugly, did the “laws of God” change, evolve or multiply between the first century BCE and the seventh century CE?

Yes.

You do realise that the imperial “peace”, would be different as per who decided what the law of God was?

The imperium has very little to do with divine law.

The biggest single problem with theocracy is that men subvert it for political ends. In the case of the Westminster system, the imperium is cloaked by the “divine right” to rule.
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