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April 8, 2014 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 8 April 2014

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stephieboy

Oh Dear. ! Reid, obviously for you the Truth hurts.!
Really hurts.!
Chuck Missler make sense.?
Of course not.!

http://talkrational.org/showthread.php?t=38299

and,

http://news4themasses.wordpress.com/2012/01/20/slight-of-hand-false-prophet-chuck-missler-still-on-speaker-schedule-with-other-calvary-chapel-discerners/
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April 8, 2014 10:02pm
Reid

stephie I didn’t post Missler, that was Wiki. So no, the truth doesn’t hurt, I was simply making the point. Der.
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April 8, 2014 10:17pm
ShawnLH

Hows the war against the Jews going Reid? I see some of your friends have done well in Hungary.
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April 8, 2014 10:21pm
Nostalgia-NZ

The Lonely Hearts Club is flat out this evening.
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April 8, 2014 10:24pm
Reid

Hows the war against the Jews going Reid? I see some of your friends have done well in Hungary.

It’s interesting isn’t it Shawn that the Zionist neocons supported and indeed installed the new-Nazis in Kiev.

Of course according to my worldview that simply makes perfect sense, but according to your’s it’s completely and utterly puzzling, isn’t it. Yet it happened. Didn’t it.

Of course you’re one of the useful idiots who doesn’t think the US installed Kiev, aren’t you. Of course you are. You need to make up your own reality, lest the cognitive dissonance strike you right in the tummy don’t you. Sad really. One of these days your created ignorance is going to hurt you. I do hope you don’t have any US investments, for example. Lots of cognitive dissonance going on with you and the Dow, one imagines.
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April 8, 2014 10:33pm
ShawnLH

“Yet it happened. Didn’t it.”

No. Your fantasy about “Zionist neo-cons” and the Ukraine is just another whackjob conspiracy theory.

As to being a “useful idiot” that’s your speciality. Russia. Iran. Islamic-fascists, basically anyone who hates Jews and you jump mindlessly on board as their useful idiot.

But your not a Jew hater, right? Cognitive dissonance indeed.
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April 8, 2014 10:40pm
Reid

But your not a Jew hater, right?

No I’ve told you, I love Jews. But there is an evil sect amongst them who say they are Jews but are not and whom Jesus warned us about and which you are ignoring but that’s OK, I know you’re not evil, just stupid. They do things like this. Not to mention kill children and destroy lives.

http://revisionistreview.blogspot.co.nz/2014/04/israeli-vandals-spray-paint-jesus-is.html

And as far as Russia goes, this is good news isn’t it.

http://batr.org/reactionary/040714.html

Whereas all we Christians in the West seem to do these days is kowtow to the Jews who say they are Jews but are not because we’re so stupid we can’t see the difference between them and real Jews. Well, some of us are, aren’t we Shawn.
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April 8, 2014 10:55pm
SPC

Reid, so you decide that those Jews, who you do not love, are not Jews – so therefore you do not hate anyone who you are prepared to recognise as a Jew.

And you cite the bible, as to contention between groups of Jews, as to whom better represents Judaism, as your background for doing this.

Sounds like misuse of the bible to me.

The bible also notes those of true and false Christ’s, yet you do not fixate your conspiracy theory around this terminology.
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April 8, 2014 11:29pm
griffith

http://www.nature.com/nclimate/index.html#latest-research
Nature Climate Change | Perspective
A lower bound to the social cost of CO2 emissions
J. C. J. M. van den Bergh
& W. J. W. Botzen
Nature Climate Change
Published online
26 March 2014
Abstract
Many studies have estimated the social cost of carbon (SCC). We critically evaluate SCC estimates, focusing on omitted cost categories, discounting, uncertainties about damage costs and risk aversion. This allows for the calculation of a lower bound to the SCC. Dominant SCC values turn out to be gross underestimates, notably, but not only, for a low discount rate. The validity of this lower bound is supported by a precautionary approach to reflect risk aversion against extreme climate change. The results justify a more stringent climate policy than is suggested by most influential past studies.

A meta-analysis of crop yield under climate change and adaptation
A. J. Challinor, J. Watson, D. B. Lobell, S. M. Howden, D. R. Smith & N. Chhetri
Nature Climate Change
Published online
16 March 2014
Feeding a growing global population in a changing climate presents a significant challenge to society1, 2. The projected yields of crops under a range of agricultural and climatic scenarios are needed to assess food security prospects. Previous meta-analyses3 have summarized climate change impacts and adaptive potential as a function of temperature, but have not examined uncertainty, the timing of impacts, or the quantitative effectiveness of adaptation. Here we develop a new data set of more than 1,700 published simulations to evaluate yield impacts of climate change and adaptation. Without adaptation, losses in aggregate production are expected for wheat, rice and maize in both temperate and tropical regions by 2 °C of local warming. Crop-level adaptations increase simulated yields by an average of 7–15%, with adaptations more effective for wheat and rice than maize. Yield losses are greater in magnitude for the second half of the century than for the first. Consensus on yield decreases in the second half of the century is stronger in tropical than temperate regions, yet even moderate warming may reduce temperate crop yields in many locations. Although less is known about interannual variability than mean yields, the available data indicate that increases in yield variability are likely.

Sustained mass loss of the northeast Greenland ice sheet triggered by regional warmng
Shfaqat A. Khan, Kurt H. Kjær, Michael Bevis, Jonathan L. Bamber, John Wahr, Kristian K. Kjeldsen, Anders A. Bjørk, Niels J. Korsgaard, Leigh A. Stearns, Michiel R. van den Broeke, Lin Liu, Nicolaj K. Larsen & Ioana S. Muresan
Nature Climate Change
Published online
16 March 2014
Abstract
The Greenland ice sheet has been one of the largest contributors to global sea-level rise over the past 20 years, accounting for 0.5 mm yr−1 of a total of 3.2 mm yr−1. A significant portion of this contribution is associated with the speed-up of an increased number of glaciers in southeast and northwest Greenland. Here, we show that the northeast Greenland ice stream, which extends more than 600 km into the interior of the ice sheet, is now undergoing sustained dynamic thinning, linked to regional warming, after more than a quarter of a century of stability. This sector of the Greenland ice sheet is of particular interest, because the drainage basin area covers 16% of the ice sheet (twice that of Jakobshavn Isbræ) and numerical model predictions suggest no significant mass loss for this sector, leading to an under-estimation of future global sea-level rise. The geometry of the bedrock and monotonic trend in glacier speed-up and mass loss suggests that dynamic drawdown of ice in this region will continue in the near future.

The rate of sea-level rise
Anny Cazenave, Habib-Boubacar Dieng, Benoit Meyssignac, Karina von Schuckmann, Bertrand Decharme & Etienne Berthier
Published online
Nature Climate Change
23 March 2014
Present-day sea-level rise is a major indicator of climate change1. Since the early 1990s, sea level rose at a mean rate of ~3.1 mm yr−1 (refs 2, 3). However, over the last decade a slowdown of this rate, of about 30%, has been recorded4, 5, 6, 7, 8. It coincides with a plateau in Earth’s mean surface temperature evolution, known as the recent pause in warming1, 9, 10, 11, 12. Here we present an analysis based on sea-level data from the altimetry record of the past ~20 years that separates interannual natural variability in sea level from the longer-term change probably related to anthropogenic global warming. The most prominent signature in the global mean sea level interannual variability is caused by El Niño–Southern Oscillation, through its impact on the global water cycle13, 14, 15, 16. We find that when correcting for interannual variability, the past decade’s slowdown of the global mean sea level disappears, leading to a similar rate of sea-level rise (of 3.3 ± 0.4 mm yr−1) during the first and second decade of the altimetry era. Our results confirm the need for quantifying and further removing from the climate records the short-term natural climate variability if one wants to extract the global warming signal10.
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April 9, 2014 12:13am
lilman

Parihaka my arse, if you go there you will see NZ at its most reflective.
The 3 houses wont talk to each other,each so paranoid that the other will get more than them, they do little for their collective position.
Poor form, for all they will get is scorn for a victim mentality that is so ingrained that they talk shit 24/7 about this great Aroha for the country ,but secretly hate each other guts.
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