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April 6, 2014 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 6 April 2014

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Johnboy

Well if sheep or goats are part of the mix in Hell Milkey I’m certain I can fit in! 🙂
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April 6, 2014 9:04pm
mikenmild

It’s not too late to become a Pastafarian: beer volcanoes and strippers await you in Heaven.
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April 6, 2014 9:12pm
ShawnLH

“the works of his Satanically-inspired minions”

That would be you, and me, and everyone on this planet.

Look to your own sins instead of projecting them onto your various scapegoats.
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April 6, 2014 9:13pm
Johnboy

Nighty night Minus! 🙂
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April 6, 2014 9:13pm
Reid

Look to your own sins

I do.

instead of projecting them onto your various scapegoats.

I don’t.

I simply take people as they are. If they act like they’re from the Synagogue of Satan, I watch them. If they keep doing it, I call bullshit on them, just like Jesus did.

You might want to note Shawn Jesus didn’t bury his head in the sand with these people, he declared their crimes in front of others everytime he saw them.

If you knew what I know about them, I guarantee you’d do the same.
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April 6, 2014 9:25pm
ShawnLH

“You might want to note Shawn Jesus didn’t bury his head in the sand with these people, he declared their crimes in front of others everytime he saw them.”

The people Jesus criticised and your anti-Jewish conspiracy theory are not remotely the same thing.

You scapegoat Jews. Jesus did not. You blame world evil on a Cabal of various mythical groups. Jesus blamed evil on the human heart.

You have abandoned the Gospel for a pseudo-gospel of hate.
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April 6, 2014 9:34pm
Fletch

This joke from the back page of a newspaper I read today.
Thought it might amuse 🙂

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Winston Peters was visiting a West Coast school and the class was discussing words and their meanings.
The teacher asked him if he would like to lead the discussion on the word ‘Tragedy’.

Mr Peters asked the class for an example of a “Tragedy”. A boy stood up and offered, “If my best friend is run over by a tractor and killed, that’s a tragedy”.

“Incorrect”, said Mr Peters. “That would be an accident”.

A little girl raised her hand, “If a school bus with 50 children drove over a cliff, killing everybody, that would be a tragedy”.

“I’m afraid not”, said the MP. “That’s what we call ‘a great loss”.

No other children volunteered. “Isn’t there someone here who can give me an example of a tragedy?” Mr Peters asked.

Finally, a lad raised his hand and said, “If a plane carrying you and your deputy was shot out of the sky, that would be a tragedy”.

“Yes”, said Mr Peters. “And why is that?”

“Because”, said the lad, “it wouldn’t be a great loss, and it probably wouldn’t be an accident”.
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April 6, 2014 9:52pm
Reid

The people Jesus criticised and your anti-Jewish conspiracy theory are not remotely the same thing.

Yes they are.

You scapegoat Jews.

No I don’t. I condemn those who say they are Jews but are not.

Jesus did not.

Yes he did.

You blame world evil on a Cabal of various mythical groups.

No, I blame much but not all of the evil on a cabal of various actual groups. The rest I blame on simple human weakness but I never bother to talk about that, since by comparison it’s a minor problem like petty theft compared to murder.

Jesus blamed evil on the human heart.

So who was the father of lies then?

You have abandoned the Gospel for a pseudo-gospel of hate.

I have no hate. Your current position abandons the Gospel. You need to get it through your skull that the people we’re talking about are those who represent on Earth that principality spoken of by Paul in Ephesians 6.12.
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April 6, 2014 9:57pm
Rowan

RichardX @ 4.35

Creation, as in the origin of the world, mankind, all forms of life, I would have thought this was self explanatory.
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April 6, 2014 11:14pm
igm

Watching deadbeat Labour/Green scum displaying envy of successful Young Nats on Tv last night made me resolute in never voting for, or supporting, anything these leeches represent. There were unionists (obese), even a few NZEI teachers in the mix, but mostly unemployable rent-a-mouths, that pop up at every point they can show support for those that are prepared to give them a life of Riley for no efforts. This bunch of mottley losers would never have done a day’s work, living off unionists and hardworking taxpayers, but still wanting more. Labour/Green scum at its worst!
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April 7, 2014 6:31am
big bruv

igm

Who did Labour party TV (aka TV One) send to cover the protest? I only caught the TV3 clip.

I bet that it was not Katie Bradford. I noticed her POS mother in the crowd doing her usual shrieking. Can anybody identify the other prick with the megaphone?
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April 7, 2014 6:52am
igm

I saw a fat ugly bitch of education infamy in the crowd. Makes Bradford look almost respectable.
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April 7, 2014 7:13am
Manolo

I also noticed the stinking presence of the despicable Sue Bradford, communist to the core.
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April 7, 2014 7:13am
big bruv

igm

“I saw a fat ugly bitch of education infamy in the crowd”

Who is that?
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April 7, 2014 7:57am
kowtow

Couldn’t find it on 1 but here’s 3. Problem with video playback at the minute. Wow the comments are instructive about how ignorant and envious the class enemies are!

ps The commies seem to have a problem with the Young Gnats paying $100 for a ball ticket. I’d love to see these commie pricks come and picket a New Zealand International Rugby test….

…..they have the attitude one doesn’t have the right to spend one’s own money as one sees fit.That’s commies for ya.

http://www.3news.co.nz/Young-Nats-ball-target-of-protest/tabid/1607/articleID/338993/Default.aspx
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April 7, 2014 8:12am
RichardX

Rowan (1,719 comments) says:
April 6th, 2014 at 11:14 pm
RichardX @ 4.35
Creation, as in the origin of the world, mankind, all forms of life, I would have thought this was self explanatory.

What you have listed are, according to the best scientific evidence available, 4 separate events.
The universe as we know it was the result of the big bang approx 13.8 billion years ago
The earth was formed approx 4.5 billion years ago
Some life was evident on earth at least 3.5 billion years ago
Homo sapiens as a distinct species dates back approx 200,000 years
To attempt to explain all of these as one event, “creation”, does not fit the evidence

You appear to be able to examine evidence when it comes to the Bain murders even if not everyone agrees with your conclusions. Why are you so resistant to examining the vast amounts of evidence for something far more important?
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April 7, 2014 9:57am
Rowan

Richard
Your right I examine evidence, everything you have listed is a scientific hypothesis, you have no evidence of it, your ‘big bang’ theory is all hocus pocus and creation is completely unexplained by science, hence no ‘evidence’ to examine.
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April 7, 2014 3:25pm
goldnkiwi

‘cough’ 😉 lol
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April 7, 2014 7:56pm
RichardX

Rowan (1,720 comments) says:
April 7th, 2014 at 3:25 pm
Richard
Your right I examine evidence, everything you have listed is a scientific hypothesis, you have no evidence of it, your ‘big bang’ theory is all hocus pocus and creation is completely unexplained by science, hence no ‘evidence’ to examine.

Oh dear..it is pointless to debate against willful ignorance

I could explain that a hypothesis becomes a theory when it has been tested and proven

I could list the religious institutions that accept the theory of evolution, including the Roman Catholic Church when in 1996 Pope John Paul II gave a message to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences in which he said “Today, almost half a century after publication of the encyclical, new knowledge has led to the recognition of the theory of evolution as more than a hypothesis.”

I could say that the only hocus pocus is the belief that the universe and life came into existence by magic but obviously your theology is more important to you than the truth so I won’t waste any more time
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April 7, 2014 8:47pm
Rowan

RochardX
Believe what you want, these ‘proven’ tests explain nothing, If you believe in something strongly enough then you will find ‘evidence’ to explain in to your satisfaction, I don’t believe in magic but your theory needs a lot of magic to explain how nothing somehow exploded creating a big bang which somehow created the earth and the various forms of life on it.
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April 7, 2014 11:44pm
griffith

nothing somehow exploded creating a big bang which somehow created the earth and the various forms of life on it.

created created created Is your god hangup

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who said nothing?

Your story with god fails the logic test a lot more clearly than the one sans superstition.Yours implicitly leaves the question who created god?

Occums raxor says rubbish to a need for a totally unsupported extra layer of “god” in the universe.
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April 8, 2014 6:33am
RichardX

Rowan (1,721 comments) says:
April 7th, 2014 at 11:44 pm
RochardX
Believe what you want, these ‘proven’ tests explain nothing, If you believe in something strongly enough then you will find ‘evidence’ to explain in to your satisfaction, I don’t believe in magic but your theory needs a lot of magic to explain how nothing somehow exploded creating a big bang which somehow created the earth and the various forms of life on it.

I know I shouldn’t respond because it is pointless and nothing is more powerful to you than your beliefs but I do worry about the level of scientific illiteracy displayed.
You could at least try to understand what the cosmological theory of the big bang states before dismissing it through ignorance. The big bang did not create the earth. The big bang did not create life. Both of these events took place billions of years after the big bang
Your take on the big bang is a like stating evolution means we are descended from monkeys. It makes a catchy sound bite but displays a profound ignorance of the theory

Putting your fingers in your ears and singing na na na na does not make the evidence disappear any more than your ignorance of the theories makes the theories invalid

A definition of magic is ” the power of apparently influencing events by using mysterious or supernatural forces.”
How does your creation hypothesis not rely on a supernatural or mysterious force?
Can you provide any scientific evidence to support your hypothesis?
Do you think your hypothesis can be tested and proven enough to become a theory?
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April 8, 2014 3:04pm
Rowan

Richard
Your theory of evolution is about as convincing as Mr Garrisons, if the big bang did not create the earth then what is the evolutionary explanation of it? did it suddenly appear out of nothing? or just was, no the evidence was never there in the first place so no need to ‘make it disappear’
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April 8, 2014 10:52pm
RichardX

Thankfully I am not your science teacher, or English teacher either from the gibberish that was your last post. There are plenty of good websites where you can educate yourself instead of showing your ignorance. Try simple things like googling age of the earth then compare that to age of the universe. One word of warning, if you are interested in facts instead of nonsense, steer clear of websites that mention christian, creation or god
As previously explained there are 4 separate events, each with a different explanation as shown by the very different outcomes.
Do you really think the process that bought the universe into existence as we know it would somehow also cause the speciation shown by evolution?
Did you think that the gravitational forces that formed the earth could also form life?
Have you thought about any of this at all or have you just accepted what your ancient text told you?
Those ancient texts have a great track record with explaining the physical universe don’t they?

The thing about the South Park parody ridiculing creationists is that you seem to take a masochistic pride in being the object of ridicule.
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