General Debate 2 April 2014

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Mr Dotcom said in an interview with TVNZ’s Q and A programme on the weekend that one of the politicians he really admires is Mr Shearer.

The JFG continues to play with politicians and speculation and probably knows this game from reading THE ART OF WAR – SUN TZU – “All warfare is based on deception.”

So Kim Dotcom claims he has a current sitting New Zealand Parliamentary Electorate Member “in-his-pocket”, already committed to joining the Internet Party and maybe about to betray her or his Party and current voters.
Has Dotcom, or the alleged in-his-pocket sitting Member, committed any offence yet?

Crimes Act 103 – Corruption and bribery of member of Parliament
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 Every member of Parliament is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 7 years who corruptly accepts or obtains, or agrees or offers to accept or attempts to obtain, any bribe for himself or herself or any other person in respect of any act done or omitted, or to be done or omitted, by him or her in his or her capacity as a member of Parliament

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 Every one is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 7 years who corruptly gives or offers or agrees to give any bribe to any person with intent to influence any member of Parliament in respect of any act or omission by him or her in his or her capacity as a member of Parliament.

It would be a bugger if instead of being extradited, we had to spend taxpayer money to keep Kim in one of our prisons.
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April 2, 2014 8:02am
Pete George

Political polls have been and still are covered poorly by news organisations. This seems to be based on ignorance and headline mongering.

There are some promising changes that at least give relevant information if you did for it. Roy Morgan have been good and now Colmar Brunton supply excellent information. If particular note:

The data does not take into account the effects of non-voting and therefore cannot be used to predict the outcome of an election. Undecided voters, non-voters and those who refused to answer are excluded from the data on party support.

The results are therefore only indicative of trends in party support, and it would be misleading to report otherwise.

All political journalists should have to learn this and other polling basics. Polling 101 and kudos for Colmar Brunton.
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April 2, 2014 8:03am
duggledog

‘Property owners hold key to crime cuts’

NZ Herald story about home burglary uses a picture of a caucasian with short back & sides for the picture of a guy breaking into a window with a crow bar

Ha ha ha – what, were you guys too scared to use a photo of a brown guy? You were, weren’t you! That’s partly why nobody bothers buying the Herald any more, no balls, no facts, poor grammar, too much advertising and too much Opinion instead of journalism

The guy in the photo looks a bit like Colin Craig incidentally
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April 2, 2014 8:12am
RRM

The older I get, the less I realise I know.

Ghetto trash woman 3 or 4 seats along on the train is not so encumbered, she apparently knows almost everything!
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April 2, 2014 8:13am
iMP

Poll of Polls…

ACT 0.00%
Dotcom 0.4%
Conservatives 2.9%

I’d be encouraging the latter to stand in Epsom.
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April 2, 2014 8:17am
hj

Mismatch (Evolutionary psychology)

Psychologist Mark van Vugt recently argued that modern organizational leadership is a mismatch.[45]. His argument is that humans are not adapted to work in large, anonymous bureacratic structures with formal hierarchies. The human mind still responds to personalized, charismatic leadership primarily in the context of informal, egalitarian settings. Hence the dissatisfaction and alienation that many employees experience. Salaries, bonuses and other priviliges exploit instincts for relative status, which attract particularly males to senior executive positions.[46].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_psychology#Cultural_universals
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April 2, 2014 8:20am
peterwn

minus – I think Crown Law would let extradition take priority. I have wondered whether his behaviour is not coming near the point where his bail could be revoked. I suspect the police and Crown Law are keeping a close but discreet watch on this – but would want to be sure of their ground before acting. This adds credence that no Nat is involved. If he tried to influence a Nat MP his chances of being stung are high.
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April 2, 2014 8:21am
griffith

It would be amusing to see Socialist CONservatives tank in Epsom.

And the spin Gwaig would use to try to convince the electorate he represents anything other than an idiot would be fun as well.
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April 2, 2014 8:24am
Keeping Stock

David Cunliffe did an hour of talkback on Wellington’s Newstalk ZB yesterday. For anyone who was hearing him over an extended period (i.e. more than a 20-second sound-bite on the news), he won’t have made a particularly good impression.

In particular, his refusal to acknowledge the FACT that interest rates were higher under a government in which he was a senior Minister, and his eagerness to abuse both the host and the current Government is revealing. Comments like “wah, wah, wah, it was different under Helen Clark. Sorry, guys, grow up.” are not what one would expect from the man who wants to be Prime Minister in less than six months.

http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2014/04/wah-wah-wah-yourself-mr-cunliffe.html
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April 2, 2014 8:25am
Judith

@ duggledog (1,072 comments) says:
April 2nd, 2014 at 8:12 am

Actually in burglary stats, the ‘white’ guys are top of the rank. Whilst Maori are disproportionately represented in the stats, more pakeha, than Maori are charged with burglary. Therefore the use of a ‘white’ guy is totally appropriate. 🙂
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April 2, 2014 8:27am
Chuck Bird

IMP, where is your source?

This is what I have

http://pundit.co.nz/content/poll-of-polls

Also have a look at the sidebar of this blog.
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April 2, 2014 8:31am
Reid

Undecided voters, non-voters and those who refused to answer are excluded from the data on party support.

The great Professor Bob Chapman had a model which he used accurately to predict election results that was honed over many years of poll and actual vote data and it used the undecided vote as the main determinant. Basically what it said was the larger the size of the undecided vote and the longer it remained undecided as the election date approached, the greater would be the movement against the incumbent govt.

I don’t know what has happened with that model since the 1980’s but one would have thought polling companies would be aware of it and therefore would be interested in the undecideds at least even if not in the other two categories.
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April 2, 2014 8:31am
KiwiGreg

RRM your drift to the right has been quite noticeable over last few years.
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April 2, 2014 8:32am
Elaycee

Buckle up, Rachel… I doubt your apology will be the last you hear of this…

Rachel Smalley left her microphone switched on during an ad break before the 6am News this morning (NewstalkZB) and described NZ women (average weight 70kg) as ‘heifers’ and ‘a bunch of lardos’….

Smalley has forgotten the golden rule of broadcasting: Always treat the microphone as being switched ‘on’…. 😯

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/9894921/Rachel-Smalley-apologises-for-on-air-bunch-of-lardos-quip
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April 2, 2014 8:33am
igm

The Labour scum are really hammering this Liu affair on taxpayer-funded TVNZ, now we have the losers at Newstalkzb waffling a load of crap. Limp wrist Little must have would up his commo mates in media once more.
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April 2, 2014 8:37am
Paulus

Is the Dann now expecting to be Labour candidate in Ilam related to the other two left wing media Danns’ ?
He is described as a Left Wing Blogger also.
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April 2, 2014 8:39am
Keeping Stock

@ Elaycee – what a hoot. Smalley is one of the more professional broadcasters out there, so this is a significant gaffe; the kind of thing you’d expect from a Martin Devlin or a Mark Watson 😉
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April 2, 2014 8:39am
Paulus

Poor Smalley – whilst everybody agrees with what you said – you are non PC.
Sure, the shouting will count against your future employment.
Look what they did to Paul Henry – Women hate women more though.
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April 2, 2014 8:41am
Judith

“It’s actually okay to hunt even more whales. But what will happen is that the number of whales taken will decrease,” added Komatsu”

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/01/japan-whaling-idUSL4N0MT2FI20140401

Hunting them? Causing them stress and torment? Scaring them, and forcing them to flee, isolating them from their herd … and for what? Some fantasised scientific research – what are they trying to find out – how much stress it takes to kill a whale?

Bastards.
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April 2, 2014 8:41am
UglyTruth

http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2014/03/exposed-kerry-implicated-in-turkey-false-flag-using-alqaeda-to-start-war-with-syria-_syriangirlpartisan-2609538.html

A leaked conversation between Turkey’s intelligence chief and the war room reveals plot to create a casus belli for war with Syria by using ISIL, an alQaeda offshoot, to threaten a turkish shrine Suleiman Shah Tomb. Turkey has blocked youtube in order to cover up the leaks. Turkish Foreign Ministry confirmed the recording of planning for a military incursion into Syria adding that a ‘network of treason’ was responsible for leak. Part two of the leaked conversation implicates John Kerry US secretary of state in the plot.
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April 2, 2014 8:41am
flipper

Without looking at the stats, I suspect that Judith is correct – white trash are the main culprits. Maori and PIs mire likely to do a bash and grab.

A case in point is /was the well known burglar, one (James, from memory) Royce, who started his “career” in Gisborne and then moved gradually south to Wellington.

Wraith like, he once (in)famously did a whole street in Wellington’s Hataitai suburb, moving house to house, two ahead of investigating police. They eventually got him on other charges before linking him to his “burgs”. In all Royce had more than 600 burglary convictions over several years.

A drug infused piece of white trash, given to some violence.
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April 2, 2014 8:42am
Judith

@ Paulus (2,272 comments) says:
April 2nd, 2014 at 8:41 am

ohhh dear, that’s not going to go down too well with the girls. Personally I think its kind of funny, and if the girls stop to think about it, how many of us are always complaining about the same thing – but hearing it over the radio waves could be a tad too real for most. Yes, she may have signed herself into forced obscurity. It will take more than an apology, unless something big happens on the media front, in which case it will be forgotten.
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April 2, 2014 8:45am
doggone7

igm: “… the losers at Newstalkzb waffling a load of crap.”

So what’s new??????????????????????????????
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April 2, 2014 8:49am
doggone7

And for another perspective on media political coverage. Audio on –
http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/player/2591037
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April 2, 2014 8:53am
RF

Last weekend I was with a group of friends who work in the Health & Education field. More left leaning than right. Boy has Cunliffe upset them. The females do not connect with him as he appears to be a “smarmy prick” and other similar phrases. The males just thought he was a tosser and needs to decide who he actually is rather than role playing.

The message is getting louder Labour so look out in August.
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April 2, 2014 8:53am
Manolo

Smalley’s tone of voice is horribly nasal. She’s a waste of space and another (il)liberal host at NewstalkZB.
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April 2, 2014 8:54am
Reid

Turkish Foreign Ministry confirmed the recording of planning for a military incursion into Syria adding that a ‘network of treason’ was responsible for leak.

As opposed to the FAPSI which was the most likely culprit, Turkey blaming an internal plot in order to justify its censorship.

One can only imagine what the useful idiots on here would be saying if it was a conversation between Putin and his advisors on Ukraine about using an Al-Qa’ida front group to execute a false flag. But nary a peep from them, not yesterday and what’s the bet, not today either.
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April 2, 2014 8:58am
Pete George

iMP is making things up again (at 8.17 am). I pointed out errors in those same poll claims a couple of days ago so it’s unlikely to be ignorance, it looks more like deliberate misinformation. Craig has been known to give out misleading poll information, Conservative supporters seem to be as dishonest.
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April 2, 2014 9:00am
muggins

Burglary stats.
So what are the statistics?
White/Caucasian %?
Maori %?
Pacific Islander%?
Asian% ?
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April 2, 2014 9:03am
iMP

Oh dear, Labour stalls in Ilam. But Debbie Mora was a National nominee in Port Hills 2008 and Wigram 2011 before she turn-coated to NZF and then Labour to try and get in to office.

I don’t care which party, as long as I get near the trough.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/9893382/Labour-nominee-pulls-out-of-Ilam
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April 2, 2014 9:09am
hj

Far North hapu says snapper limits ‘irrelevant’
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/auckland/news/nbnat/1219769317-far-north-hapu-says-snapper-limits–irrelevant-
So where are The Greens on that? Who is in charge? Maori, Government or “partnership”?
https://www.greens.org.nz/features/standing-tall-te-tiriti-o-waitangi

Green Party Waffle

We are on a new mission that weaves an exciting, and long overdue indigenous dimension to our party fabric of ecological wisdom, social and economic justice, non-violence and participatory democracy. No doubt we will gain, as individuals and as a party, much more than we will give in such a task.

We need to act, and learn, together. There is a whakatauki, a proverb, which says: Ko te totara totika ki roto i te wao – the straightest, tallest totara (are) in the heart of the forest – in other words, leaders are nothing without others around to support them.

And it should be said here; how can we truly understand the natural history of this country without the hundreds of years of Maori knowledge of it; of the poetry about native birds, animals and trees; the widely-ignored herbal remedies from plants, and indeed the spiritual reverence for mountains, lakes and rivers? Merely learning the meanings behind a local place name can be enriching. Tamaki-makau-rau – Tamaki of a hundred lovers: Maori name for Auckland – describes an area which commanded people’s affections because of its physical location and fertile soils, but it also evokes the image of a hundred or so small volcanic cones, all in close proximity.

As a political party however, our main work in honouring the treaty must be at Parliament.

Late in the 19th century Maori revolutionary fighter and Ringatu Church founder Te Kooti Arikirangi Te Turuki said just before he died: “The canoe to paddle, for you who follow me, is the law. Only the law can be pitched against the law.” Te Whiti-o-Rongomai said at around the same time: “What the law has torn asunder, only the law can sew together. What legislation has broken and shattered, only legislation can put together.”

It has to happen. Me tu tangata tatou – “let us stand tall”- and make it happen soon.
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April 2, 2014 9:15am
griffith

Judith you know you are talking shit.
It is the number of maori burglars compared to the community as a whole that disrupts you noble savage narrative.

Maori are more represented in the stats for conviction of property indeed almost all crime.

unfortunately maori also bear the brunt of maori crime.

http://www.corrections.govt.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/672574/Over-representation-of-Maori-in-the-criminal-justice-system.pdf

Relative to their numbers inthe general population, Maori are over-represented at every stage of the criminal justice process. Though forming just 12.5% of the general population aged 15 and over , 42% of all criminal apprehensions involve a person identifying as Maori, as do 50% of all persons in prison. For Māori women, the picture is even more acute: they comprise around 60% of the female prison
population.The true scale of Māori over-representation is greaterthan a superficial reading ofsuch figures tends to convey. For example,
with respect to the prison population, therate of imprisonment for this country’s non-Maori population is around 100 per
100,000. If that rate applied to Māori also, the number of Māori in prison at any onetime would be no more than 650.There are however currently 4000 Māori in prison –
six timesthe number one might otherwise expect

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April 2, 2014 9:16am
Keeping Stock

@ iMP – I note that Dann first missed out in Christchurch Central (to Tony Milne), before picking Ilam as his off-course substitute. I doubt that he will resound too well with the good folk of Fendalton.

http://christchurchmusic.org.nz/news/james-macbeth-dann-run-christchurch-central

Interesting too what he said in his speech at the Central selection meeting:

It is my belief that Central is the most important electorate in the country at the moment; it is a symbol of the destruction wrought by the quakes which has been beamed around the country and the world – but it is also a symbol of the failure and broken promises from the National-led government. Brownlee and his accomplices have presided over a man-made disaster, far worse that the one caused by mother nature, and I believe that I am the best person to lead Labour and Christchurch Central towards a resolution.

http://rebuildingchristchurch.wordpress.com/2014/03/19/my-speech-for-the-central-selection-meeting/

Perhaps Ilam will suddenly become the “most important electorate in the country at the moment” 😀
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April 2, 2014 9:16am
iMP

Yes K.Stock, and until recently D. Mora was helping Hon. Amy Adams in Selwyn and tried to be Gerry Brownlee’s secretary in Ilam. Can Labour (and its desperate National party ring-ins) do nothing right?
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April 2, 2014 9:20am
griffith

Interesting

12.5% is the number taken from the census for those with maori ancestry
Identifying as Maori is often not the same thing as having maori blood.
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April 2, 2014 9:20am
UglyTruth

As opposed to the FAPSI which was the most likely culprit, Turkey blaming an internal plot in order to justify its censorship.

Russia Today did a story on how mainstream media were not reporting the specifics which showed the true nature of the conspiracy being planned by Erdogan’s administration. Reuters continues to report developments in the Turkey-Syria conflict without reference to the Turkish conspiracy.

As well as the three wiretaps that implicated the US in regional destabilization (Nuland, Erdogan et al, Tymoshenko) there was a fourth one:

http://exopolitics.org/is-hacked-phone-call-of-ukraine-sniper-attacks-evidence-of-exopolitics-conflict/
A hacked phone call between the Estonian Foreign Minister and EU Foreign Affairs chief, Catherine Ashton, reveals that snipers responsible for the death of protesters were not from the deposed Ukrainian government. The hacked phone call was made available to the RT news service and today was the subject of a number of news reports. The hacked call reveals that the snipers targeted both protesters and police. According to the call, there was a need to investigate, but there was no incentive among the new Euromaidan approved Ukrainian transition government to do so. The hacked call reveals that a mysterious third force was operating to destabilize the previous Ukrainian government run by President Yanukovych by making it appear responsible for the sniper attacks.

Veterans today ran a piece about ET involvement, it looks to me like it has legs.
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April 2, 2014 9:25am
Lucia Maria

I wouldn’t trust anything that came out of Russia Today, given that all independent media in Russia that doesn’t follow the Government line is getting shut down.
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April 2, 2014 9:36am
Judith

@ griffith (510 comments) says:
April 2nd, 2014 at 9:16 am

– you clearly didn’t read my comment properly. I said Maori were disproportionately represented – which means yes, there are more Maori percentage wise which commit burglary than pakeha – but of the total number of burglaries there are more pakeha burglars apprehended than Maori. Of course there are more Pakeha in NZ which means percentage wise, their representation is much lower. But number wise, it is not.

You are arguing exactly what I said. Honestly are you really that keen on finding an argument?
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April 2, 2014 9:37am
Viking2

minus (2 comments) says:
April 2nd, 2014 at 8:02 am

Mr Dotcom said in an interview with TVNZ’s Q and A programme on the weekend that one of the politicians he really admires is Mr Shearer.

The JFG continues to play with politicians and speculation and probably knows this game from reading THE ART OF WAR – SUN TZU – “All warfare is based on deception.”

So Kim Dotcom claims he has a current sitting New Zealand Parliamentary Electorate Member “in-his-pocket”, already committed to joining the Internet Party and maybe about to betray her or his Party and current voters.
Has Dotcom, or the alleged in-his-pocket sitting Member, committed any offence yet?

Crimes Act 103 – Corruption and bribery of member of Parliament
1)
 Every member of Parliament is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 7 years who corruptly accepts or obtains, or agrees or offers to accept or attempts to obtain, any bribe for himself or herself or any other person in respect of any act done or omitted, or to be done or omitted, by him or her in his or her capacity as a member of Parliament

2)
 Every one is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 7 years who corruptly gives or offers or agrees to give any bribe to any person with intent to influence any member of Parliament in respect of any act or omission by him or her in his or her capacity as a member of Parliament.

It would be a bugger if instead of being extradited, we had to spend taxpayer money to keep Kim in one of our prisons.
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Problem with this is there are plenty of times past where this is just ignored when it comes to politico’s.
Waste of ink.
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April 2, 2014 9:43am
UglyTruth

I wouldn’t trust anything that came out of Russia Today, given that all independent media in Russia that doesn’t follow the Government line is getting shut down.

Lucia Maria, do you know who is responsible for them being shut down?
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April 2, 2014 9:45am
mikenmild

Russia ranks very low in international surveys of media freedom. This is generally considered to be due to a combination of regulation and self-censorship as a result of government pressure.
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April 2, 2014 9:52am
duggledog

Sorry Judith, I think you’re trying to make it sound like you want it to.

Interesting to note the crime stats falling everywhere except: Northland, Central and Eastern BOP / Cape. Wonder why?

I do wonder whether Maori will start to trickle back to their tribal lands that they don’t pay rates on more and more in coming years. I’ve got a bit to do with the property rental business around the country and oh boy. Chinese / Asian and Indian landlords simply won’t rent to anybody they perceive to be Maori, or at the least they are placed at the bottom of the list, below PI’s. They’ll never say it but that’s how it is.

And these landlords aren’t holding back on snapping up any properties they can get their hands on.
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April 2, 2014 9:52am
Lucia Maria

Ugly,

Ultimately, Putin.
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April 2, 2014 9:56am
UglyTruth

Problem with this is there are plenty of times past where this is just ignored when it comes to politico’s.

If there’s no corrupt intent then it’s only currying favours.
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April 2, 2014 9:57am
UglyTruth

Ultimately, Putin.

How do you know Putin is responsible, and not one of the West’s proxies? There’s no shortage of evidence of interference, for example Victoria Nuland’s conversation with Geoffrey Pyatt.
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April 2, 2014 10:01am
Judith

@ duggledog (1,073 comments) says:
April 2nd, 2014 at 9:52 am

I am not trying to make it sound any more than what it factually is.

More Caucasian people in New Zealand, than Maori were apprehended for burglary.

Percentage wise, more Maori than Caucasian feature in the burglary stats, but the issue or rather comment was, that the paper had got it wrong by not putting a Maori face as the burglar, because there are more Maori burglars. That is factually not correct according to the stats. The stats indicate very clearly that there are more Caucasian burglars apprehended.

You can try and twist that to make yourself feel better, and justify anything you like, but factually the paper was correct. The number of Caucasian burglars apprehended in this country is higher than the number of Maori burglars – sorry if it interferes with your ‘ideals’.
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April 2, 2014 10:03am
Lucia Maria

Russian Television Is Telling a False Story About Ukraine
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April 2, 2014 10:04am
Lucia Maria

Ugly,

How do you know Putin is responsible, and not one of the West’s proxies?

Just like I know Father Christmas does not rule Russia right now. Putin is obviously in charge in Russia. How would one of the “one of the West’s proxies” shutdown indepedent media in Russia? It’s just an absurd question.
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April 2, 2014 10:07am
UglyTruth

Putin is obviously in charge in Russia.

Does that mean that he is responsible for everything that happens there?

How would one of the “one of the West’s proxies” shutdown indepedent media in Russia?

Operation Mockingbird.
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April 2, 2014 10:10am
Manolo

A bike is a basic human right claim the imbeciles and lunatics at The sub-Standard:

This Government’s obsession with roads and cars, and their lack of investment in safe cycling and reliable public transport, ignores the fact that while high income families may own several cars, at the other end of the spectrum there are a growing number of families that not only can’t afford a house or a car, but struggle to own bicycles as well.
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April 2, 2014 10:13am
minus

Labour has has done absolutely nothing in their current paid job as Opposition, apart from sabotage power company shares prices out of seeming spite, and change their leadership three times since the last Election.

Few can remember what Labour stood for prior to last Election, although the main policy seemed to be we will dump Goff as soon as he looses and the only other plank, oppose partial asset sales, is now obsolete, as is Goff.

Then all Labour members, in rare solidarity, allowed Shearer to stand holding two fish up in Parliament, ending that ‘leadership’ – when the fish recreational quota was actually the very issue that most surprisingly could have nailed National.
And so three candidates, in the so-called American-style “primary”, ran around the country spouting policy which wasn’t official conference-determined policy, so leaving the general public with no fucking idea what Labour stands for now.

Labour then diminishes its overall appeal of whatever it may stand for, by nominating an over-representation of gay and otherwise candidates.

While the RF comment (8.35 above) may sum up Cunliffe, in that “females do not connect with him as he appears to be a “smarmy prick” and other similar phrases. The males just thought he was a tosser and needs to decide who he actually is rather than role playing.”

No surprise that such a self-involved inward looking party now has such a bleak outlook.
What a lot to fix in six months.
Minus another day …
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April 2, 2014 10:16am
griffith

You clearly didn’t read my comment properly. I said Maori were disproportionately represented – which means yes, there are more Maori percentage wise which commit burglary than pakeha – but of the total number of burglaries there are more pakeha burglars apprehended than Maori.

Unless you can quote a more accurate source you are combating fact with opinion.

The information in the above linked justice report on maori and criminality shows more maori are arrested and convicted of both property and violent crime.
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April 2, 2014 10:18am
Newbie

Regarding Maori crime: a friend and I was discussing this, and he says that it is the white person’s fault that Maori commit crimes. ie, due to the colonisation by the Brits, the taking away of their land, changing their cultures, etc etc. I’ve told him we cannot be held responsible for what the early British settlers did 100-200 years ago.

Any thoughts on this?
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April 2, 2014 10:26am
Jacob Cohen

Dotcom Lies Leave Labour Seeking a Traitor in Their Midst.

Dotcom: 1 already; Labour: zilch 🙂
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April 2, 2014 10:29am
mikenmild

While one can’t overlook the effects of colonisation when considering the position of Maori today, I think the situation is a little more complicated than it being the ‘white person’s fault’.
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April 2, 2014 10:29am
Ryan Sproull

Regarding Maori crime: a friend and I was discussing this, and he says that it is the white person’s fault that Maori commit crimes. ie, due to the colonisation by the Brits, the taking away of their land, changing their cultures, etc etc. I’ve told him we cannot be held responsible for what the early British settlers did 100-200 years ago.

Any thoughts on this?

“Fault” can mean both “cause” and “crime”, usually both, but not necessarily.

Try rephrasing the situation using one or both of those two words and avoid the ambiguous word “fault”.
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April 2, 2014 10:34am
EAD

@ Uglytruth 10:10am

I disagree with you often but there are times when your depth and breadth of knowledge of political thought and media coverage is unsurpassed.

If you want to see classic Operation Mockingbird in all it’s glory watch this short clip. The coverage of the Russia situation is just absurd in the Western MSM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM8L7bdwVaA
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April 2, 2014 10:37am
Lucia Maria

Ugly,

Operation Mockingbird is not at work in Russia. For an idea of how independent news dies there, read this: A Week Before the Olympics, the Kremlin is Attacking Russia’s Last Independent TV Channel Putin taketh away and this: Russia’s Last Independent TV Channel Is Fighting For Its Life And it’s asking for your help.

Dozhd does live broadcasts, long a thing of the past on state TV since they cannot be controlled; it gives airtime to the opposition (blacklisted on state TV) as well as to representatives of the state; and, during the anti-Kremlin protests in the winter of 2011-2012, it was the only channel in Russia that fully covered what was going on.
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April 2, 2014 10:39am
Ryan Sproull

Upon reflection, I edited the above comment to change the word “responsibility” to “crime”, because “responsibility” is a little ambiguous as well – it can mean “fault”, but can also mean “duty”.

And while it’s no one alive today’s fault (crime) that Maori were marginalised in the past, that marginalisation is to blame (cause) for much of today’s statistical overrepresentation of Maori in prison, but just because colonisation is no one today’s responsibility (fault), that doesn’t mean that we don’t collectively have a responsibility (duty) to address that unfair situation, which was brought about through no fault (crime or cause) of Maori today.
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April 2, 2014 10:43am
Manolo

Spin doctors at work, but who is lying? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2594309/President-plans-victory-lap-strong-Obamacare-enrollment-Sebelius-faces-unpopular-law-blank-stare-tough-questions-remain-whos-signing-up.html

A triumphant President Barack Obama declared Tuesday his signature medical insurance overhaul a success, saying it has made America’s health care system ‘a lot better’ in a Rose Garden press conference.

But buried in the 7.1 million enrollments he announced in a heavily staged appearance is a more unsettling reality. Numbers from a RAND Corporation study that has been kept under wraps suggest that barely 858,000 previously uninsured Americans – nowhere near 7.1 million – have paid for new policies and joined the ranks of the insured by Monday night.
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April 2, 2014 10:43am
KiwiGreg

“that Maori were marginalised in the past, that marginalisation is to blame (cause) for much of today’s statistical overrepresentation of Maori in prison,”

Really? I mean ignoring all the definitional issues of who is a maori, you feel that something that happened 150 years ago is somehow genetically or socially passed on causing someone to go out an commit crime today?
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April 2, 2014 10:50am
EAD

Right on time, Nigel Farage does a great little op-ed in the left leaning Independent summing up the mentality of politicos and the MSM:

The media prefers a simple narrative….. “Our Westminster politicians seem to think that in any conflict there must always be a “goodie” and a “baddie”. They like to make it simple: anyone who is in the West equals goodie. Anyone who looks like an underdog equals goodie. They appear to make little effort to find about out which people they are supporting.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/nigel-farage-in-any-armed-conflict-why-do-our-politicians-rush-to-support-the-rebels-9228311.html
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April 2, 2014 10:50am
UglyTruth

I’ve told him we cannot be held responsible for what the early British settlers did 100-200 years ago.

We can still be held responsible for what we do today. The relationship between the Maori people and their land (or any people, for that matter) is a fundamental factor in the health of their culture. If the state tells them what they can and can’t do with their own land (resource consents, permits, etc) and they kowtow to this then their self respect has got to suffer.
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April 2, 2014 10:50am
Judith

@ griffith

You are being absolutely ridiculous.

The agrument was – More Maori commit burglary than Caucasian and therefore the picture should have shown a Maori person.
The counter argument was — no, more maori do not commit burglary than Caucasian, and the statistics prove that.

Percentage wise of the different populations, Maori are over represented, BUT number wise they are not the largest group of burglars.

Even with overall crime, there are still more Caucasian offenders (40.6%) compared to Maori (37.5%) so either way YOU LOSE! http://wikinewzealand.org/?tag=maori&paged=2 (near bottom of page)

AND, the argument was concerning BURGLARY not violent crime, not property crime of which burglary is a subset, and so on. Whilst no one is arguing the disproportionate representation of Maori in the statistics (as per your report), the fact is – there are more Caucasian burglars apprehended than Maori. Get over it Griffith, you are wrong – or muddled, or just stupid – I can’t decide which.
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April 2, 2014 10:54am
UglyTruth

Operation Mockingbird is not at work in Russia.

How do you know that? The same way that you “know” that Putin is responsible for the suppression of alternative Russian media?
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April 2, 2014 10:55am
Ryan Sproull

Really? I mean ignoring all the definitional issues of who is a maori, you feel that something that happened 150 years ago is somehow genetically or socially passed on causing someone to go out an commit crime today?

150 years ago today, the American Civil War was raging. I think it’s safe to say that the past has an effect on the present. I am not talking about any single event, however. I’m talking about all of the past causal factors that have given rise to the situation today.
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April 2, 2014 10:55am
griffith

Newbie

due to the colonisation by the Brits, the taking away of their land, changing their cultures, etc etc.

Between 1810 and 1840 What was the most significant thing that happened to maori?

The biggest change in their world?

Intertribal genocide erupted across the islands of New Zealand.

Guns resulted in both an arms race and slaughter.

The highly praised export industries of tohunga, flax and food across the Tasman was fueled with the slaves captured by brutal attacks on tribes miles away. Trade to supply weapons of war.
The resultant UTU manufactured displaced proceeded to inflict same on yet more maori culminating in the invasion of the chatam isl and wholesale slaughter of the inhabitants in 1936.
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April 2, 2014 10:56am
Weihana

KiwiGreg (3,117 comments) says:
April 2nd, 2014 at 10:50 am

Really? I mean ignoring all the definitional issues of who is a maori, you feel that something that happened 150 years ago is somehow genetically or socially passed on causing someone to go out an commit crime today?

People tend to turn out like their parents. Those who rise above their disadvantages are the exception not the rule. Of course people can always choose differently but they most often don’t.

Ryan makes an excellent distinction between attributing moral blame for an individuals actions to Pakeha vs simply acknowledging the historical causes of statistical anomalies.
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April 2, 2014 11:19am
David Garrett

What a load of bollocks the furore around this woman who referred to NZ women as “heifers” and “lardos”…

When I was in the UK 100 years ago we used to play a game when bored…it was called “Spot the Australasian arse”…There were two forms of the game: the short form involved just asking a target whether she was an Aussie or a NZer….the “test” version involved picking a woman out of the crowd walking down the Haymarket towards New Zealand House, and seeing if said lard arse went into NZ house to pick up her mail…

The game got boring after a while because even the test version was too easy…

I remember an Aussie friend of mine who quite seriously claimed that the “australasian arse” was the result of ingesting too much dairy products, and netball…
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April 2, 2014 11:20am
stephieboy

UglyTruth (2,634 comments) says:
April 2nd, 2014 at 8:41 am

UT, I do query the reliability and reputation of your links especially like “Before its News “. Just go to the search function and type in Jews or Illuminati and you might get my point.

Manolo re Obama care enrollments . Not bad given the blatant propaganda and disinfo by the far right and stonewalling by the Repblicans
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April 2, 2014 11:32am
griffith

http://www.corrections.govt.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/672574/Over-representation-of-Maori-in-the-criminal-justice-system.pdf
Page 52
fig 3.1 violent offences
fig 3.2 All property offences

If you have alternate stats specifically on burglary I would enjoy seeing a link to them.
Takes to much time to piss around with stat nz for hours to find such a specific

If you are exposed to sth ack culture you know that most burgs are not reported to the police in Glendon and similar suburbs that are full of maori.
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April 2, 2014 11:33am
Pete George

John Key has been accused of grossly exaggerating the costs of Labour’s early childhood education policy by up to ten times. It looks like he’s at last double and probably much more. Key:

Mr Key cited Labour’s promise to increase early childhood education from 20 free hours a week for three and four years old to 25 hours a week.

The policy doesn’t take effect until July 2017 but Labour has costed it at $57 million in the first year and about $60 million after that.

Mr Key said the cost was more likely to be $600 million, $700 million or $800 million.

This has been costed at a maximum of $313 million and would probably be much less. Cunliffe would be blasted for something like that. Key’s claim looks tricky.

Key’s early childhood education cost claim disputed
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April 2, 2014 11:35am
mikenmild

This is a good article on the latest IPCC report and reaction to it:
The scope of the report is very broad, going over the climate change impact on the planet’s physical systems (oceans, coasts, weather, and so on) as well as the biosphere (humans, animals, agriculture) and human society, and then discussing how we must adapt to and manage/mitigate these risks.
Food production rates are already getting lower, with crop yields dropping. Most studies project yields dropping even more over time, with half the studies showing a 10 percent or (far) more drop by the end of the century. More people (millions) will be displaced due to coastal and waterway flooding as sea level rises. There will be even more extreme weather events, including more droughts in some places and more rainfall in others. The dynamics of marine organisms will be profoundly altered, including shifting migrations of species due to warming waters, ocean acidification, and changing oxygen levels in water (warm water holds less dissolved gas in it). Those “oxygen minimum zones” are expanding over time as well. The examples in the report march on for quite some length. It’s grave.
As you might expect, the deny-o-sphere’s reaction to this report is to spin like the blades of a kitchen mixer. While the IPCC report talks about the devastating impact climate change will have on populations, resources like crops and water, economic loss, extreme weather, and more, the Daily Mail has an article with the headline—seriously—of, “Climate change will benefit tourism and cause a boom in Arctic cruises, claims leaked UN report.”
Not surprisingly, the Heartland Institute has weighed in on the report, giving it its usual bizarre misinterpretation. Like many other deniers, the group focuses in on the (at best very limited and local) benefits of climate change, ignoring the vast and global risks involved that are hammered home by the IPCC report. It’s like finding a penny in huge pile of bills and calling it a net profit.
James Delingpole took to the keyboard and wrote an article in advance of the IPCC report, focusing on the idea that global warming won’t cost us nearly as much as earlier claims. This is based on the findings of economist Richard Tol, who actually worked on the IPCC report, but left the group after claiming they were being alarmist. However, Tol’s conclusions have been widely rejected as severely underestimating the economic damage due to climate change.
Despite this, I want to mention one other thing that struck me, both in the report and by the scientists themselves during the press conference: a sense, just a whiff, of cautious optimism. Let me be clear: Things are already bad, and they are going to get very much worse. We know this. But how much worse they get depends in large part on us.
The faint optimism by the chairs of the report seems to come from the idea that there are measures we can undertake to minimize the damage. It may not be enough, but it may help, and give us needed time to create better solutions. Many governments are well past the stage of acknowledging climate change and are in fact starting to figure out what to do about it. Incremental adjustments are being made, emphasizing “flexibility and learning.”
The one I think is most important is the mitigation of greenhouse gas emission. According to the report this can “substantially reduce risks of climate change in the second half of the 21st century.” Reducing these emissions can help crop yield, reduce water scarcity, reduce sea level rise issues, and more. It also slows things down, giving us more time to adapt and figure out what steps to take next. This is clearly a first, best step.
We need to learn from experience, act across all scales (local to global), increase our resilience, and embed thinking about climate change into our actions that can affect the environment. They give many examples of this: using renewable energy sources, carbon storage and sequestration, changing agricultural practices, and so on.
It’s possible we can stave off the very worst of the disaster.
But make no mistake: This optimism, weak as it may be, depends on mitigation of and adaptation to our warming planet. In other words, and critically, there is only a chance if we take action.
The false optimism peddled by deniers (“it’s not so bad”) is the opposite of this. If we ignore them we may yet minimize the terrible impact of climate change. But if we heed them, and ignore climate change, then their false optimism will prove to be disastrous.
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April 2, 2014 11:49am
flash2846

Judith (5,460 comments) says:
April 2nd, 2014 at 8:27 am
Actually in burglary stats, the ‘white’ guys are top of the rank………

Judith I don’t think you are accurate here and it upsets me when people like you make these statements which in turn fuel racism.

Caucasians have an extremely low representation in criminal acts given they are the majority of our population. Causations should be congratulated for this fact and not blamed for the “problems” of others.

What will it take to have Maori leadership accept responsibility for so much pain and suffering?

Polynesians, Asians, Europeans, Americans, New Zealanders, Africans…etc. in New Zealand manage to behave themselves so there’s no excuse.
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April 2, 2014 11:50am
UglyTruth

I do query the reliability and reputation of your links especially like “Before its News “

Here’s part of the transcript of the conversation that led to their article:

http://thefreedomreport.us/kerry-implicated-turkey-false-flag-using-alqaeda-start-war-syria/

Hakan Fidan: If necessary, we can make an attack there (Tomb of Suleyman Sah) as well, there too, we attack preemptively. We can do, I mean, I am trying to understand.

SEVENTH SCREEN:

Feridun Sinirlioğlu: We have done these before, these can be done of course. We can make it done,

Hakan Fidan: I mean, if we are ready to use that thing, in correct time and place, let us do it with a purpose determined by us.

Ahmet Davutoğlu: Hakan, as you said, if what you mean is a lack of strategy in fabricating a justification, you are right. Against these men…

An officer: Sir, without that happening-

Ahmet Davutoğlu: Yes, we will pass on to that okay take it and I am coming. You cannot say to the US Secretary of State, “we need to take strong measures.”
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April 2, 2014 11:52am
Judith

@ flash2846 (127 comments) says:
April 2nd, 2014 at 11:50 am

That may be so flash, but that wasn’t the argument, or the question being asked. The question or rather statement was that there were more Maori burglars than Caucasian. That is factually incorrect. The numbers are very clear, and even clear in overall crime stats. Caucasians number 40.6% and Maori 37.5%.

As you say, a bigger percentage of the Maori population are represented in crime stats, BUT that was not the issue being raised. You expect me or anyone just to accept a wrong being presented, just so it makes everyone feel a little better? A fact is a fact, and factually more Caucasian’s commit crimes in NZ than any other ethnicity. Percentage wise of total ethnic group, more Maori commit crimes. The two figures are very different conceptually and you cannot use one to represent the other.
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April 2, 2014 12:08pm
flash2846

@ Judith – Point taken (as was yesterdays). I will need to put some thought into a suitable reply so it will have to wait. Taking a break for todays exercise Yippee!
Something I want to say though is: I am proud to be of European decent; very proud. We are good people.
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April 2, 2014 12:15pm
Ryan Sproull

Something I want to say though is: I am proud to be of European decent; very proud.

It’s quite the achievement. Great work, Flash!
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April 2, 2014 12:17pm
All_on_Red

Mikey
“. Most studies project yields dropping even more over time, with half the studies showing a 10 percent or (far) more drop by the end of the century.”

Oh this so just not true. Go to the US dept of Agriculture website and look up both US and worldwide crop yields for wheat soybean and corn.
The trends since the 60′ s is of steady growth. No decline at all. Production of Corn and Wheat is up 700 and 500 million ton’s respectively from 1960 to date.
Plants like CO2- go figure…
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April 2, 2014 12:26pm
Andrei

Well good luck with that chums……

Ukraine crisis: Kiev takes on far right

Remember when they were “peaceful” protestors back when the “Pro-Russian”(1) Government held the office and before being replaced by the “legitimate”(2) Government that now reigns.

(1) Pro-Russian – John Kerry speak for Democratically elected
(2) Legitimate – John Kerry Speak for coup installed Government favoured by Washington
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April 2, 2014 12:35pm
Manolo

Across the ditch the ABC does not hide its anti-West propaganda:
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/qa_a_celebration_of_self_loathing_and_leftist_bias/
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April 2, 2014 12:35pm
stephieboy

U T,
I’m actually quite underwhelmed by the alleged discussions between Turkish intelligence officials.In the first instance false flag operations have been an instrument of state policy and military strategy going back to the burning of Nero’s Rome and beyond. Bring us back to recent times and we other examples of the Mukden incident ( pretext of Japanese to invade Manchuria ), Reichstag Fire , ( pretext to suppress political opposition etc ) Hitler’s invasion of Poland ( border incident pretext) , Soviet invasion of Finland and so on.
Possibly the most notorious one for Conspiracy Theorists is “Operation Northwards.” , a series of false flag proposals put to President Kennedy by his intelligence chiefs for the invasion of Cuba.The president rejected them outright. BTW the full documentation of ” Operation Northwards was made fully available both offline and on line to the public prior to 9/11..
So you see there is nothing actually remarkable about these exchanges and I do note the apparent desire to even try and keep Kerry and the US in the dark. False flag attack proposals are going on a lot of the time on all sides. its even suggested that the attack on Russian apartments by Chechyan separatists was a Kremlin FSB conspiracy false flag attack.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings
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April 2, 2014 12:40pm
mikenmild

All on red
The report notes that only half of studies show a 10% or more drop in yields over the century, so it’s fair to say there is a good deal of uncertainty about some of the impacts on agriculture.
Presumably you will agree more with other conclusions that are more widely supported.
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April 2, 2014 12:54pm
ShawnLH

Reichsführer Reid,

“But nary a peep from them, not yesterday and what’s the bet, not today either.”

That’s because we don’t get our info from whackjob fringe conspiracy web sites. We leave that to Jew haters like you and UT and Putin’s other useful idiots.

By the way, looks like Putin’s race war is coming unstuck. Turns out he’s all talk and no hat.

‘Russian troops pull back from Ukraine border as NATO says not enough’

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/04/01/russia-hikes-gas-price-for-ukraine/?intcmp=latestnews

Nato suspends Russia co-operation

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26838894

I guess it’s easy to be tough when your prancing around a river with your shirt off like some gay-boy model, but Nato clearly has him shit scared 🙂
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April 2, 2014 12:58pm
stephieboy

Andrei, your either seriously misinformed or deluded to think that Russia itself does not have its own equivalents to Ukrainian far right elements which the Kremlin controlled and censored RT etc love to highlight.
Russian National Unity comes to mind and Putin’s Russia has witnessed an increase in atacls by Russian nationalists , fascists etc against Muslims, Jews and other ethnic/ racial minorities .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_National_Unity

and,

http://www.google.co.nz/search?q=Russian+National+Unity&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&imgil=Rdya3nUIVPj_8M%253A%253Bhttp%253A%252F%252Ft2.gstatic.com%
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April 2, 2014 12:59pm
UglyTruth

So you see there is nothing actually remarkable about these exchanges

So it would be logical to conclude that recent evidence of US involvement in false flag operations could actually constitute proof of such?
What I find remarkable is the recent increase in exposure of these “black” operations.

and I do note the apparent desire to even try and keep Kerry and the US in the dark.

How do you figure that?

Immediately before John Kerry was mentioned the topic of discussion was the lack of a strategy. Davutoğlu emphasised that this lack of strategy was a problem when he said that he couldn’t go to Kerry without one. What this implies is that Davutoğlu believed that presenting a workable strategy for the false flag to Kerry was important, as if Kerry would not condone or support the attack unless he knew what that strategy actually was.
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April 2, 2014 1:00pm
UglyTruth

That’s because we don’t get our info from whackjob fringe conspiracy web sites. We leave that to Jew haters like you and UT and Putin’s other useful idiots.

Looks like Kiwiblog’s most prolific liar is digging in.
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April 2, 2014 1:02pm
Andrei

Shawn you moron, of course he’s scared and so should you be – these cretins are trying to start World War 3.

Putin is trying to keep his people safe you clot – don’t you know any fucking history, clearly not
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April 2, 2014 1:02pm
ShawnLH

“Lucia Maria, do you know who is responsible for them being shut down?”

Putin you dick. Or was it your reptilian shapeshifting lizards?

I know, Queen Elisabeth is taking time out from making children magically disappear to do it! 🙂
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April 2, 2014 1:04pm
ShawnLH

“these cretins are trying to start World War 3.”

I agree. Putin, his cronies and his supporters are definitely cretinous.
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April 2, 2014 1:06pm
ShawnLH

“don’t you know any fucking history”

I find it helps not to get my “history” pre-approved by the Kremlin.
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April 2, 2014 1:07pm
muggins

muggins (2,884 comments) says:

April 2nd, 2014 at 9:03 am
Burglary stats.
So what are the statistics?
White/Caucasian %?
Maori %?
Pacific Islander%?
Asian% ?

I ask again, what are the burglary statistics?
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April 2, 2014 1:07pm
All_on_Red

Mikey
I think it’s fair to say there’s a lot of uncertainty about the whole WG 11 report… There’s a fair bit of cherry picking going on within the media as well. Usually of an alarmist nature.
Still good to see that the estimate of Sea Level rise by 2100 has been reduced to ” only” 1 metre. Five years ago they were saying 20!
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April 2, 2014 1:09pm
stephieboy

Ugly,

You completely ignore the points I raised in the first instance and this alleged false flag attack is but a proposal and I note they consider it important enough to put to Kerry and hopefully like JFK he would reject it outright.
Your seriously deluded if you think e.g that his neighbour , due north Russia and one due south , Syria have not at some stage entertained similar as an instrument of military policy .
Really this is the stuff of a lot of conspiracy theory and paranoia
e.g here,

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/09/10/enough-already-syria-wasn-t-a-false-flag-operation.html
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April 2, 2014 1:10pm
Judith

@ flash2846 (128 comments) says:
April 2nd, 2014 at 12:15 pm

And I am proud to be of European descent as well, and yes, we are like most humans, inherently good – however, we define good according to the context in which we live, and it was not all that long ago that someone who was ‘good’ was defined by how he handled his sword.

The thing with statistics is, you can always play with them enough to make them fit any argument.

I could for example take the argument above and say that as there are no Maori with 100% Maori ancestry, then we need to deduct from their statistics the percentage that represents the Caucasian in those that identify as being ethnic Maori – now if we did that, and added that percentage to the Caucasian crime statistics, we’re not going to come across as such a ‘good’ lot at all.

But that would not help the over all condition – however, makes for an interesting argument as to ‘who is the baddest’, because after all the one thing that both groups of criminals have in common, is some degree of European ancestry!! 😉 (just playing, but its worth some thought).
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April 2, 2014 1:14pm
UglyTruth

You completely ignore the points I raised in the first instance

That’s pretty vague. What points are you talking about?
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April 2, 2014 1:16pm
ShawnLH

Stephieboy @ 12:59

Spot on. Not to mention Aleksandr Dugin and his Eurasian Empire Fascists who are very close to the Kremlin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Dugin

Putin’s Brain: Alexander Dugin and the Philosophy Behind Putin’s Invasion of Crimea.

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/141080/anton-barbashin-and-hannah-thoburn/putins-brain
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April 2, 2014 1:16pm
Andrei

Do you actually believe the crap you post Shawn?

143 Million people live in the Russian Federation Shawn and they all just want to go about their daily lives just like you do.

And Vladimir Putin’s job is to see that they can, go about their daily business, earn their livings and enjoy their lives in peace.

The last thing Russia needs is a civil war on its borders, its not good for anybody but thanks to Western fiddling this is what they have got.

An elected Government in a bordering Nation has been overthrown and replaced by one that is hostile to Russia and being encouraged to be hostile to Russia.

If Putin had done this in Mexico the USA would have invaded Mexico months ago – whereas Putin has continued to supply Ukraine with the gas it needs to function – despite not being paid for it, even at the hugely discounted rate Russia has been charging Ukraine (in order to help them out).

The so called increase in Gas price is in fact the removal of this subsidy given by Russia to the previous regime to help it overcome its difficulties
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April 2, 2014 1:29pm
mandk

All-on-Red at 12.26: “Oh this so just not true”

Yes, and even if it were true, we could overcome the problem with genetic engineering of crops.

Oh wait … the people who are telling us there is going to be a problem with crop yields will be the same as the ones telling us that we must be GE-free 🙂
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April 2, 2014 1:37pm
Jack5

China has burned currency speculators. They have lost the equivalent of seven billion NZ dollars betting on the yuan.
Note the link is in US dollars.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-01/china-burns-speculators-as-5-5-billion-lost-on-yuan-bets.html
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Justice in Brazil
No Right Turn
"Seymour is only doing openly what M?ori nationalists and their Pakeha allies have been doing, quietly for the past 50 years."
Not PC
Daily review 22/11/2024
The Standard
Do the KCs believe in democracy
Utopia
More young offenders will get boot camp, bus drivers will get some protection – and there’s relief for southern farmers
Point of Order
Your Cheatin’ Ballot III: Pennsylvania Right Now
No Minister
Sowell says
Hompaddock
New Zealand government urged to back ICC arrest warrants for Israeli leaders without equivocation
The Daily Blog
The transgender agenda sunk Kamala
Bob McCoskrie's McBlog
SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT
No Punches Pulled (Bob Jones)
What does “reciprocity” mean in New Zealand laws?
Croaking Cassandra
A Day of Reckoning
NZCPR
Media Link: “A View from Afar” on the US elections.
Kiwipolitico
This will not end well
Offsetting Behaviour
Top 14 Predictions for Round 10
Stats Chat
Tory Whanau may have to sell Wellington mayoralty to make ends meet
The Civilian
The Accidental Engagement
Imperator Fish
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Liam Hehir
Why I am retiring from political blogging
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