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April 25, 2014 8:00am by Kokila Patel

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Lucia Maria

This is pointless.
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April 25, 2014 8:04pm
nasska

A gang of robbers broke into a lawyer’s club by mistake. The old legal lions gave them a fight for their life and their money. The gang was very happy to escape.

“It ain’t so bad,” one crook noted. “We got $25 between us.”

The boss screamed: “I warned you to stay clear of lawyers — we had $100 when we broke in!”
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April 25, 2014 8:05pm
Kea

This is pointless.

Lucy, at times like this I find handling Serpents helps restore my strength. 🙂
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April 25, 2014 8:05pm
griffith

last paragraph usual source 😆 to slow to retrace cut and paste to block quote the quote.
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April 25, 2014 8:06pm
Kimbo

“I really didn’t see the point in going around in circles today. Kimbo was being such an idiot .

FFS I don’t consider being open to peplos celebrating Anzac day as they see fit being a worthwhile point to oppose”.

Ho, hum, griff. Still misrepresenting.

If that was the ENTIRE case, then the shops would be open before midday. Any guesses why the garden centres who make such a fuss over Easter don’t try it on on Anzac?

But in the main, yes, it is live and let live on Anzac. However, in the case of white poppies

1. as some people find them offensive because they view them as a political Trojan Horse being illegitimately injected into a national institution, and

2. it detracts from and causes confusion with a legitimate and long-established charitable fund-raising venture,

…then it is worthwhile considering the respective merits of the arguments. So we can personally come to a decison that will either reinforce or overturn the consensus on the things we SHARE together – or at least are officially observed.

Now, personally, I don’t go out of my way to offend people. Judging by your “RSA are alcoholics” line, I guess you are different. Good for you. However, if you and others ARE going to offend others, I think it is worthwhile giving you a chance to make your case.

Or is that just too tiring and irritating for liberals?

OK. So you are an offensive prat for the sake of it. Got it. As I asked before, why didn’t you just tell everybody that from the beginning and saved us all a lot of time?
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April 25, 2014 8:11pm
Left Right and Centre

Kea – long time, no demerits – haha….

No – funny you should ask – I’m down to a pushbike to get around and therefore my life turned into a fucking punishing triathlon of cycling, jogging, weights and dancing. I got mind boggling jaw dropping record low weight readings. I was on a 20km run – and half way through lap one I told myself that’s it – I’ve had it. I finished off the 5km lap I was on and that was me cooked with the jogging. That was late March.

At the very least I need some new fucking MP3 tracks to run to – I’m sick to fuck of the same old shit.

I don’t miss the endless bullshit soaking / drip drying / washing of disgusting run gear. 63 items a week roughly. Screw that.

I did make it to 10 000 recorded recreational jogging kms since Nov 2005 though. The old quarter lap of this blue planet.

Got some nerve damage or some shit in my forearm after tricep dips – had that for a couple of weeks now.

And yourself ? Too busy to hang out with your fan club here huh ?
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April 25, 2014 8:23pm
All_on_Red

Lucia
Russia has not lost power at all. It is rich in energy, its technology grows. It’s army and navies are being modernised. Sure it has problems but it’s starting to grow its middle class.
Russia has no interest in Poland. It’s a useful buffer and history shows us Russia like its buffers.
Now America – there’s a country which has lost power.
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April 25, 2014 8:23pm
MT_Tinman

mandk (716 comments) says:
April 25th, 2014 at 7:46 pm
Glad to hear you won’t coerce your mum, nasska, but I’m sure that there are plenty of people who don’t have your respect and scruples.

What a load of utter horseshit!

What you mean is you don’t respect the wishes of those of us who do not want to linger when we are no longer able to control our destinies.

I’m an old fart and I can assure you I hope someone has the guts and honesty to put me down when I’m no longer of use to anyone.

I’m not alone – the one piece of advice 90% of old people give to anyone who’ll listen (and me on a daily basis) is “don’t get old”.
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April 25, 2014 8:23pm
griffith

The razzas have been full of drunken sots for ever
If you think arguing other wise has merit you really are a fuckwit .

The razzas trust objective is

The objectives of the RSA are:

Loyally to uphold the sovereignty of New Zealand as a member of the Commonwealth of Nations and as a member of the United Nations.
To foster and maintain the welfare and security of New Zealand within the concept of the establishment and maintenance of international peace with honour.

To inculcate in the individual a sense of responsibility to his fellow citizens, to his local community, and for the well-being of mankind.

To perpetuate the comradeship born of service and to promote the general welfare of servicemen and former servicemen, their respective dependants and the former dependants of deceased servicemen or ex-servicemen.

To promote, foster and generally supervise local Associations and RSA Clubs throughout New Zealand.

most are feel good fuzzys that make nice noises

the last one is were 99 percent of the effort actually is

clubs .

for “mates” to drink in .
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April 25, 2014 8:23pm
mandk

@ griffith,

Who mentioned religion? I didn’t. And my brother and sister-in-law who are certain that legalising euthanasia will make geronticide common through coercion are non-believers.

Neither you nor nasska have addressed the issue of coercion.
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April 25, 2014 8:26pm
Viking2

Dead Penguins – I never knew this!

Did you ever wonder why there are no dead penguins on the ice in Antarctica? Where do they go?

Wonder no more!!!!!!! It is a known fact that the penguin is a very ritualistic bird which lives an extremely ordered and complex life. The penguin is very committed to its family and will mate for life, as well as maintain a form of compassionate contact with its offspring throughout its life.

Talking about dying and stuff.

If a penguin is found dead on the ice surface, other members of the family and social circle have been known to dig holes in the ice, using their vestigial wings and beaks, until the hole is deep enough for the dead bird to be rolled into, and buried.

The male penguins then gather in a circle around the fresh grave and sing:

“Freeze a jolly good fellow.”
“Freeze a jolly good fellow.”

You really didn’t believe that I know anything about penguins, did you?
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April 25, 2014 8:29pm
Viking2

Meanwhile on the way to getting old.

http://www.wimp.com/coupledances/

http://www.urbandance.eu/camp/videos/
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April 25, 2014 8:30pm
mandk

@ MT-Tinman

What? Are you saying there won’t be coercion? You’ll be telling me next that women are never coerced into abortion.
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April 25, 2014 8:31pm
All_on_Red

Kea,
I think we will see regime change in Iran within 15- 20 years. They can’t slow their population growth enough. It’s come down but food security is a major concern. They can’t grow enough to feed their people. Oil reserves are dropping and ironically fracking in the US has created energy self sufficiencies for the US to the point they really don’t need Mid East oil no more. So oil prices are relatively stable- besides consumption is also dropping around the world.The only thing holding the Ayatollahs in place is the conservative rural vote and the enforcers in the cities. The urban population wants change.

Good to see you back- how long you reckon you’ll last? 🙂
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April 25, 2014 8:32pm
griffith

And kimbo 😆 http://www.rsa.org.nz/history-poppy-appeal

New Zealand unique

In contrast to the United Kingdom, Canada and Australia, however, the RSA did not hold its inaugural Poppy Appeal in association with Armistice Day 1921 (11 November 1921), but instead chose the day prior to Anzac Day 1922. The reason is one of those quirks of history: the ship carrying the poppies from France arrived in New Zealand too late for the scheme to be properly publicised prior to Armistice Day, thereby forcing the Association to postpone its Poppy campaign until the day prior to Anzac Day 1922.
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April 25, 2014 8:32pm
Kimbo

“The razzas have been full of drunken sots for ever
If you think arguing other wise has merit you really are a fuckwit .”

OK, so I forgot to add the descriptor “arrogant” to twat.

Two points

1. I’ve known those who have been recipients of RSA funds – and it HASN’T been for piss-ups. At all.
2. EVEN if that were the case….SO WHAT?! It is their money which the public freely gives to them.

Oh, I forget – you are an arrogant twat who thinks you can proscribe how people and institutions should conduct their affairs. How VERY liberal of you…!
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April 25, 2014 8:35pm
All_on_Red

Nice Russian cartoon in the link.
“A Russian view of the Ukraine Association Agreement … with a delicious twist at the end. It is interesting that a cartoon can express with a clarity that which seems to elude the combined wit of the western media and political establishments. And if they can’t get the point, this isn’t going to be resolved any time soon.”
http://eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=84898
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April 25, 2014 8:42pm
Kea

All_on_Red, Iran is not the threat America claims it to be. It is certainly no threat to us in NZ. The reason we are told otherwise is that Israel wants to destroy Iran. America does Israels bidding. Iran has attacked no one for over 300 years. Compare that to the US ! (And please don’t bore me with fake discredited interpretations of what Ahmadinejad has said regarding Israel.)

What we consider “news” is all too often propaganda.

How long do you reckon ? 🙂
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April 25, 2014 8:42pm
All_on_Red

Kea,
Fair points. To me the problem with Iran is their sponsorship of terrorist groups. But hey there are many guilty of that .

3 weeks?
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April 25, 2014 8:43pm
Kea

All_on_Red, The biggest sponsor of terrorism on the planet, by a country mile, is Saudi Arabia. They have a global network of radical mosques with more being built all the time. They have the money to do that. They are also an intolerant fundamentalist state with strict Sharia law. The people who funded, planned, and carried out 911 were Saudi. (NOT Afghans)

The other big sponsor of muslim terrorism is the USA ! They have poured hundreds of millions into radical muslim groups intent in overthrowing stable muslim countries. Most recently Syria.
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April 25, 2014 8:51pm
All_on_Red

Yep, slavery is alive and well in Saudi too. Not sure it’s going to end well for the Sauds. Once their oil power is gone. ..History is littered with “civilisations” like theirs ending badly and as dust in the wind.
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April 25, 2014 8:57pm
griffith

Your attempt to control the colour of flowers peploe chose to wear when commemorating their war dead desevers only this

get fucked.

It’s not your fucken business …….
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April 25, 2014 8:57pm
Kimbo

Good on you, griff.

Really top quality arguments – and so well stated.

Almost as good as the obscure irrelevancy,

…the RSA did not hold its inaugural Poppy Appeal in association with Armistice Day 1921 (11 November 1921), but instead chose the day prior to Anzac Day 1922. The reason is one of those quirks of history…

Yes, and Jesus likely wasn’t born on December 25. Doesn’t stop it having legitimacy in our National Calnedar due to the precedence created by observation.

Any other stunning bon mots? Maybe the royal family had a German surname? That’d shut ’em up, eh griff?!
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April 25, 2014 8:59pm
Kea

All_on_Red, Yes when the oil runs out things are going to change for our deeply religious Arab brothers. They will have a big sandpit full of intolerant misogynists and not much else.

Notice how the miserable pricks never help poor Muslims ? They are happy to supply guns and preach hate, but how about helping build something ?. Factories, industry, sewage, water…

The Quran and Hadiths demand they help the poor and needy, but they seem unconcerned about that. Preferring to focus on hating women, homos and Merica.
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April 25, 2014 9:08pm
Steve (North Shore)

V2 at 8.29,
“Dead Penguins – I never knew this! ”
You forgot the ending.
Freeze a jolly good fellow, and they kick him in the icehole
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April 25, 2014 9:09pm
All_on_Red

Kea,
Yeah, those Muslim countries really ” help” the Palestinians don’t they. That Gaza is just a paradise. Just madness.
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April 25, 2014 9:11pm
griffith

It is not your business to dictate to others …….

any way you screw it you can not dictate what I do

you seem to like ignoring the history of the rsa movement

how many wifes do you think got the bash when he came home pissed from the club?

How many deaths by driving home to pissed ? How many drunken brawls leading to the A&E dept or local coppers cell?

drowning you life on a haze of jugs is not the most sensible solve for bomb shock or combate truma

a hell of a lot of ex service men have done just that propped on the bar of the local raza till the piss sent them to an early death

Sorry if you find it offensive that I don’t support a club for piss drinking but that’s life idiot get over it.
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April 25, 2014 9:13pm
Steve (North Shore)

Black poppies for those who are not white? And them some brown ones for those who are milky bars?
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April 25, 2014 9:13pm
wat dabney

“Russia has no interest in Poland. It’s a useful buffer and history shows us Russia like its buffers.”

Technically, the events of 1939 show the opposite…
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April 25, 2014 9:16pm
Kimbo

No, griff.

I don’t find it offensive. I just find it another stunning example of your ridiculous arguments. Presumably you apply the same to sweeping generalistions to rugby clubs, league clubs, bowls clubs, netball clubs, freemasons…

Why don’t you just admit it – you’re just a miserable whining wowser, misanthropist bigot and repressed impatient prohibitionist struggling to reconcile that with your expressed “liberal” views, and as a result you have to find an outlet for venting your anger. Glad to be of service.

There – diagnosis sorted.
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April 25, 2014 9:21pm
All_on_Red

Wat
Kursk proved to be a pretty useful buffer.stalin played for time well. Scorch the earth, give it up slowly. Let the the enemy use all it’s energy. Also I think Napoleon found out how big a buffer mother Russia had before you could get anywhere near the heart.
Actually Poland was a good buffer. Hitler took it then moved elsewhere before deciding to go back and poke the bear
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April 25, 2014 9:21pm
Viking2

Spacemen and food

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WoM2bHfr48
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April 25, 2014 9:21pm
griffith

Steve

Irene, Barberton, Volksrust, Belfast,
Klerksdorp, Pietersburg, Potchefstroom, Vereeniging, Turffontein, Balmoral,
Nylstroom, Standerton, Heilbron, Kimberley, Bloemfontein, Middelburg, Kroonstad,
Heidelberg, Krugersdorp, Vryburg, Vredefort, Brandfort, Springfontein, Bethulie,
Norvalspont, Port Elizabeth, Aliwal North, Merebank, Pinetown, Howick and
Pietermaritzburg.

Maybe they are better remembered by a white flower that is for all war dead not just red for only a solders grave.
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April 25, 2014 9:22pm
Kea

On 17 September, sixteen days after Nazi Germany invaded Poland from the west, the Soviet Union did so from the east. The invasion ended on 6 October 1939 with the division and annexing of the whole of the Second Polish Republic by Germany and the Soviet Union.[7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland
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April 25, 2014 9:29pm
griffith

Actually I do

alcohol is destructive addictive drug

That I would like to see restricted in direct proportion to the harm it does. You would have to be stupid to view it otherwise……….:lol:

you on the other hand seem to think it a good thing

good on ya hope you end up a drunken old sot

The sort we all know who looks young
just
for a man twice his age

and cannot hold a sensible conversation because alcohol has the effect of picking brains slowly drink by drink…..

Taken to the extreme its seen daily at the city mission

and If we went down town right now I bet we could find a drunken homeless tramp who started on his spiral to the streets at the local RSA
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April 25, 2014 9:33pm
Komata

Out of interest, because no-one here seems to have answered it (or if they have, I haven’t seen the reply), and Red Radio hasn’t yet made any comment , DID David Cunnliffe attend the Dawn Parade, as per BB’s post?

It appears he was seen very rudely texting during a Memorial service at Titirangi later in the day, but the original question stands unanswered:

Did he attend the Dawn Service?

Thanks.
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April 25, 2014 9:33pm
Kimbo

“good on ya hope you end up a drunken old sot”

What a charming fellow you are. Well, at least that’s “misanthropist” confirmed!

Anyone know how to break the news to griff that there was once a bunch of well-intentioned people like him who tried to restrict the use of alcohol…and they ended up with a guy named Al Capone?!
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April 25, 2014 9:37pm
Kea

If we went down town right now I bet we could find a drunken homeless tramp who started on his spiral to the streets at the local RSA

Probably. How about offering him a joint to put his mind straight ?

The fact is that all over the world societies use some form of drug. Many countries drink considerably more than us while suffering fewer problems. It is a slippery slope to start demonising one drug, but not others, based on personal perference.

I would legalise your weed and remove the punitive taxes on booze and smokes.
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April 25, 2014 9:44pm
Kea

“Anyone know how to break the news to griff that there was once a bunch of well-intentioned people like him who tried to restrict the use of alcohol…”

I think Griffith has converted to Islam 🙂
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April 25, 2014 9:45pm
SPC

Clark was at the dawn service at Gallipoli in 2005. And attended later timed ANZAC day services in New Zealand.

But she did not do dawn events, not ANZAC Day nor Maori ones etc.

http://tvnz.co.nz/content/1078896
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April 25, 2014 9:46pm
Kimbo

Good advice, Kea.

However, wasted on griff. As per April 25th, 2014 at 9:33 pm

Taken to the extreme…

is griff’s motto.
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April 25, 2014 9:46pm
griffith

Would someone like to point out to kimbo

That at no time have I stated prohibition as an anser

Unless of course Kimbo has made the connection because alcohol is so bad we should restrict it like we do crack cocaine.

Rational evaluation of the relative harm of recreational drugs and appropriate levels of restrictions for each based on peer-reviewed scientific research with a goal of minimizing harm Drugs are a health problem not one for legal persecution by the courts

Such as…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Development_of_a_rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_of_potential_misuse_%28physical_harm_and_dependence,_NA_free_means%29.svg
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April 25, 2014 9:52pm
Kimbo

Would someone like to point out to kimbo

That at no time have I stated prohibition as an anser

Yes, and if I didn’t have other things to do I’d hang around to unpack the meaning of your words,

That I would like to see restricted in direct proportion to the harm it does. You would have to be stupid to view it otherwise……….:lol:

…but as your arguments tend to wander all over the place into general incoherence buttressed by extreme dogmatism, I doubt I’d learn much worthwhile…
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April 25, 2014 9:56pm
griffith

Yes kimbo you have spent most the day trying to justify dictating the colour of flowers worn and when FFS .

You seem oblivious to this fact and seem to think I am the abhorrent one because I support freedom of choice.

You are some sort of strange whack head boyo

do you drink? much? more than 10 standard drinks a week? have you tried refraining for a reasonable period time ?You may already be a genuine PISS HEAD by the quality of your debate today.

Kea will you do a test for me ?

Shawnlh did and he scored 145 I score 160 I think you might score high as well. 😉

http://rdos.net/eng/Aspie-quiz.php
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April 25, 2014 10:05pm
Kea

griffith, how do you explain the fact that we are not high consumers of booze by international standards, with far bigger drinkers often having less social problems and overall higher standards of living ?

You want facts and research : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_alcohol_consumption

You will note countries with huge taxes and restrictions on booze that drink waaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more that us.
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April 25, 2014 10:06pm
Kea

griffith, that is a test for autism spectrum traits in adults. How does that relate to this, or any other, debate ?
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April 25, 2014 10:12pm
Kimbo

HOLD ON!

I’ve got it all worked out. Griff’s last post provided the last few pieces of the jig saw puzzle: –

“griffith”

the use of “boyo”

the extreme, non-negotiable and judgemental stance taken on the issue of Temperance.

We are dealing with someone from Wales in the dogmatic and unyielding “moralistic” Methodist tradition. The faith in God may have gone, but the attitudes, rhetorical methods, and dogmatism hasn’t.

What’s the matter griff? Still pissed off about Keith Murdoch’s try and the “worst All Blacks of all time” beating Wales in 1972. Makes sense. The way you argue you have proved New Zealand captain Ian Kirkpatrick’s advice from that tour – “You never beat the Welsh. You just score more points than them!”
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April 25, 2014 10:14pm
SPC

Kea, griffith was explaining why he and ShawnLH had difficulty being polite to each other.
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April 25, 2014 10:15pm
griffith

http://www.who.int/substance_abuse/facts/alcohol/en/

The harmful use of alcohol is a global problem which compromises both individual and social development. It results in 2.5 million deaths each year. Alcohol is the world’s third largest risk factor for premature mortality, disability and loss of health; it is the leading risk factor in the Western Pacific and the Americas and the second largest in Europe. Alcohol is associated with many serious social and developmental issues, including violence, child neglect and abuse, and absenteeism in the workplace. It also causes harm far beyond the physical and psychological health of the drinker. It harms the well-being and health of people around the drinker. An intoxicated person can harm others or put them at risk of traffic accidents or violent behaviour, or negatively affect co-workers, relatives, friends or strangers. Thus, the impact of the harmful use of alcohol reaches deep into society.

The harmful use of alcohol is a global problem which compromises both individual and social development. It results in 2.5 million deaths each year. It also causes harm far beyond the physical and psychological health of the drinker. It harms the well-being and health of people around the drinker. An intoxicated person can harm others or put them at risk of traffic accidents or violent behaviour, or negatively affect co-workers, relatives, friends or strangers. Thus, the impact of the harmful use of alcohol reaches deep into society.

Harmful drinking is a major determinant for neuropsychiatric disorders, such as alcohol use disorders and epilepsy and other noncommunicable diseases such as cardiovascular diseases, cirrhosis of the liver and various cancers. The harmful use of alcohol is also associated with several infectious diseases like HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis and sexually transmitted infections (STIs). This is because alcohol consumption weakens the immune system and has a negative effect on patients’ adherence to antiretroviral treatment.

A significant proportion of the disease burden attributable to harmful drinking arises from unintentional and intentional injuries, including those due to road traffic accidents, violence, and suicides. Fatal injuries attributable to alcohol consumption tend to occur in relatively younger age groups.
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April 25, 2014 10:16pm
All_on_Red

I have used this joke before. Griff thought the doctors said he had Aspergers, but he misheard them . They said his “arse needs purging” cos he’s full of shit…
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April 25, 2014 10:19pm
griffith

I had the random thought that it may also explain why kea and I have great difficulty being polite as well.

And it would also assure me that he is not the opposite.

kimbo I don’t do team sports and don’t give a fig about thugby in particular.

Why the interest balls men and running around?…. it sounds gay….. represed?
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April 25, 2014 10:25pm
griffith

😆 normie.
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April 25, 2014 10:26pm
Kimbo

BUT no DENIAL of being Welsh!

GOTCHA!

It ALL makes sense!
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April 25, 2014 10:27pm
Kea

griffith, here ya go:

Thank you for filling out this questionnaire.

Your Aspie score: 26 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 181 of 200
You are very likely neurotypical
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April 25, 2014 10:29pm
griffith

nope that makes you psychopathic my friend .http://www.psychopathicwritings.com/2011/11/psychopaths-aspergers-syndrome.html
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April 25, 2014 10:33pm
Kea

griffith, this might explain why you can not see how people can distort the scientific method for other motives. I see that in the climate debate and the current alcohol one. Its a bit like referencing ‘creation science’ to prove the world is 6000 years old.
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April 25, 2014 10:38pm
cha

They said his “arse needs purging” cos he’s full of shit…

Assburgers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH4rGCLx1eg
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April 25, 2014 10:51pm
griffith

:lo:

Still got the old conspirohacky going wingnut

Your Many countries drink considerably more than us while suffering fewer problems.

is just your normal wwwfactspulledoutmyarse.com

http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/alcohol/by-country/
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April 25, 2014 10:57pm
Kea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJmfQAHGNrs
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April 25, 2014 11:42pm
wellygirl

“Remembrance Day (also known as Poppy Day or Armistice Day) is a memorial day observed in Commonwealth countries since the end of World War I to remember the members of their armed forces who have died in the line of duty. This day, or alternative dates, are also recognised as special days for war remembrances in many non-Commonwealth countries. Remembrance Day is observed on 11 November to recall the end of hostilities of World War I on that date in 1918. Hostilities formally ended “at the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month,”

So on closer examination of history it aint the right day for red”

The last comment here shows a lack of knowledge of the history of the poppy in New Zealand. The reason NZ sells the red poppy at ANZAC day unlike Australia, and other countries, is due to our isolation and a bit of Kiwi pragmatism.

NZ planned to have the first poppy day for Armistice Day in 1921, however, due to the ship with the poppies on arriving in NZ too late for poppy day to be publicised the poppies were not sold for Armistice Day, and the RSA decided to sell them for the next ANZAC Day instead, and it was a success with many areas selling out. As a result of a late boat, and some pragmatism by the NZ RSA the red poppy is sold in NZ for ANZAC Day and not Armistice day. So, Griffith, perhaps you should not use Wikipedia to learn why things are done in NZ, but learn your NZ history.

http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/war/anzac-day/poppies
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April 26, 2014 6:30am
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wellygirl – great post. That only leaves the mystery of why all of the TV flunkies wear poppies for an entire week before ANZAC day. Isn’t it only on the day ideally that you’d wear one ?

And I like the social pressure that no-one on TV would dare not wear a poppy because that would make them an evil unpatriotic bastard.

What is it with white people and using fake plastic shit instead of something real ? Fake plastic poppies made in China are right up there with plastic xmess trees made in China. Decorate a tree in the garden for shit’s sake. If you haven’t got a garden I don’t know… get a fucking little xmess shrub or something.

Great fashion idea for the big hundy ANZAC day next year – poppy inspired clothing. The poppy dress. Poppy suit. Poppy top or jeans. Need a snack while watching the early service on TV instead of ever actually going ? Poppycorn. Do I watch porn on Anzac day ? Poppycock.
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April 26, 2014 7:30am
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well done welly maybe you should read post before commenting on someones knowledge
griffith (860 comments) says:
April 25th, 2014 at 8:32 pm

The reason is one of those quirks of history: the ship carrying the poppies from France arrived in New Zealand too late for the scheme to be properly publicised prior to Armistice Day, thereby forcing the Association to postpone its Poppy campaign until the day prior to Anzac Day 1922.
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