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April 15, 2014 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 15 April 2014

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stigie

Sounds like she is both JB.
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April 15, 2014 8:57pm
mikenmild

Wainui playing early this weekend, JB – ‘for religious reasons’.
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April 15, 2014 9:00pm
big bruv

Evening Johnboy. Have you been hiding out back of the farm?
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April 15, 2014 9:01pm
Harriet

And who is she going to complain to since she satisfies herself JB? 😎
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April 15, 2014 9:01pm
Johnboy

Been up the Tauherinikau bb. Bit of roaring going on up there and down here I see! 🙂
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April 15, 2014 9:02pm
wat dabney

“Kea’s ok. But constantly taking the Bible out of context, and then asking Christians to explain it really is a waste of time”

You don’t actually mean ‘out of context’, since the context is merely the surrounding verses, which don’t affect the meaning of the extracts under discussion.

What you are complaining about is people who give the Bible a straight and honest reading and call a spade a spade.

When you say ‘out of context’ what you actually mean are all the execrable excuses, laughable justifications and rampant corruption and twisting of scripture which are drilled into “Christians” in order to render the vile and evil Bible palatable; such that it becomes completely unthinkable for them to do anything else.

When they actually see someone giving the Bible a straightforward and honest reading they simply can’t recognise it. They only recognise the comforting, anti-Biblical lies.
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April 15, 2014 9:04pm
Johnboy

We are very religious folks over here in the Nui milky specially when the bell tolls at 11 o’clock on a Sunday! 🙂
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April 15, 2014 9:05pm
Johnboy

Has my little feathered buddy been sacked again?
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April 15, 2014 9:06pm
big bruv

It seems that Kea is awaiting the return of the mountain climber.

Are the nui that bad this year that they may even lose to Poneke?
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April 15, 2014 9:10pm
Johnboy

As long as they beat Norths we no complain bb. Such is the slings and arrows of the Swindale Shield! 🙂
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April 15, 2014 9:14pm
ShawnLH

“What you are complaining about is people who give the Bible a straight and honest reading and call a spade a spade.”

Most non-Christians who think they are doing this are usually gravely mistaken.

“When you say ‘out of context’ what you actually mean are all the execrable excuses, laughable justifications and rampant corruption and twisting of scripture which are drilled into “Christians””

Never been to a Biblical drill class before. Sounds fun. 🙂
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April 15, 2014 9:16pm
big bruv

“Most non-Christians who think they are doing this are usually gravely mistaken.”

How?
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April 15, 2014 9:17pm
Johnboy

Uh ….”non-Christians”….”gravely mistaken”?….Na forget it! 🙂
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April 15, 2014 9:20pm
big bruv

Johnboy

What has happened to Norths?, just a few years back they were just about unbeatable.
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April 15, 2014 9:20pm
ShawnLH

“As Christians, we read, interpret and apply the Bible through the lens of Jesus Christ.

In the law we find the foundation for Christ. In History we find the preparation for Christ. In Poetry we find the aspiration for Christ. In the Prophets we find the expectation of Christ. In the Gospels we find the manifestation of Christ. In Acts we find the propagation of Christ. In the Epistles we find the interpretation of Christ. In Revelation we find the consummation in Christ.”

Norman Geisler, To Understand the Bible, Look for Jesus (Grand Rapids: Baker, 1968), 83.

That’s how. Unless Scripture is read Christo-centrically, that is in the light of Christ and through His teaching, then it’s not Christianity anyone is critiquing. This arises from the misunderstanding that Christians follow the Bible. We don’t. We follow Christ.
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April 15, 2014 9:23pm
Johnboy

Not enough white men in the team bb? 🙂
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April 15, 2014 9:31pm
Johnboy

Evening Minus. Caught you by surprise did I? 🙂
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April 15, 2014 9:32pm
SPC

Johnboy, so Wainui sheep are educated enough to know that the Rams have to end up on top.
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April 15, 2014 9:56pm
stephieboy

wat dabney (3,422 comments) says:
April 15th, 2014 at 9:04 pm

Anti Biblical lies,?

What about this. ?,

Telling lies for God,

http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/news/file007.html
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April 15, 2014 10:06pm
ShawnLH

Reading Richard Dawkins turned someone to Christ. 🙂

“I started reading this thinking that I might read a logical, skeptical, nay scientific critique of religion. Instead, I found something right out of a Boston Globe editorial on a bad day: strings of pejorative adjectives pretending to be argument, bald assertion pretending to be evidence, an incredibly arrogant attitude, and a stance of moral equivalence incapable of distinguishing between the possible strengths and weaknesses of different religions, including the militant atheism Dawkins advocates. This is not academic analysis, it is bad journalism.

Truthfully, I found the book a waste of my time as it afforded me no cogent arguments concerning the existence or non-existence of God. In fact, not only was Dawkins disrespectful of opinions other than his own, I found his statements about Jesus to be so ill-informed (and, mind you, I was no fount of scholarly information myself) that I resolved to actually learn something about Jesus Christ.”

http://www.deadphilosopherssociety.com/2014/03/30/reading-richard-dawkins-led-to-my-conversion/
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April 15, 2014 10:17pm
RightNow

Hehehe, over 300 comments and nobody gives a shit about “global warming”.
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April 15, 2014 10:19pm
RichardX

ShawnLH (1,779 comments) says:
April 15th, 2014 at 10:17 pm
Reading Richard Dawkins turned someone to Christ.

Some conversion

About jbabarsky
Judith R. Babarsky, MS, MA, is a Licensed Professional Counselor engaged in private practice for the past 22 years. A graduate of Holy Apostles College and Seminary with a Bioethics concentration, she teaches the undergraduate Intro to Bioethics class and is also a Teaching Assistant for graduate level Dogmatic Theology classes. A convert to Catholicism, she has a strong commitment to bioethical and social justice issues. She and her husband reside in Virginia. They have five grown children.
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April 15, 2014 10:30pm
ShawnLH

RichardX,

She went to Holy Apostles AFTER her conversion.

“Graduating from the International School of Bangkok in Thailand during the height of the Vietnamese War taught her to appreciate many different cultures and belief systems. She went on to Wellesley College and Virginia Tech, earning a B.S. in Sociology. She earned an M.S. in Clinical Psychology at Radford University with post-Master’s coursework at George Mason University.”

http://www.holyapostles.edu/content/judith-r-babarsky-ma

Try again son! 🙂
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April 15, 2014 10:36pm
griffith

RightNow (6,330 comments) says:
April 15th, 2014 at 10:19 pm

Hehehe, over 300 comments and nobody gives a shit about “global warming”.
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He he he he
Just waiting for the wing nuts to build confidence so i can give them another kicken wingnut.
Reading difficulty right never
five times in the first twenty comments
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April 15, 2014 10:38pm
SGA

@ShawnLH at 10:17 pm

Reading Richard Dawkins turned someone to Christ.

“turned”?

Recently returned from a Mission Trip, we headed straight to our family week long beach vacation. On fire from my week in Canada surrounded by mostly Catholics, I must have appeared overly zealous to my eldest stepdaughter. … [snip]… Never one to shrink from a challenge to my admittedly unexamined faith in one God, I was intrigued and logged onto Amazon to check out the book.
… [snip] …
And that was the beginning of the last leg of my journey to conversion to Catholicism. …

To be fair, she got further through the God Delusion than I did (my wife’s copy).
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April 15, 2014 10:41pm
ShawnLH

Interesting story with some very cool photos.

“A 13-year-old eagle huntress in Mongolia”

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26969150
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April 15, 2014 10:49pm
RightNow

Nah Griff, still don’t see anyone giving a shit about it. Just like you, what have you done to save the world?
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April 16, 2014 12:37am
griffith

I see the normal head in the sand circle jerk right now
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April 16, 2014 12:42am

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