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Judith

@ mikenmild (7,953 comments) says:
March 23rd, 2014 at 7:11 pm

a ‘black programme vehicle’? The only ‘black programme vehicle I know of is the car Dave Shaft drove in the movie Shaft, and I sure as hell never saw that in the video?

I’m going to take the orb off my grandson, clearly we were sold something that has powers we were not made aware of. The orb is made up of a number of triangles, with lights.

Sorry Reid. I just don’t see what you see.

Disclaimer * most people don’t see things the way I do!! 🙁
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March 23, 2014 7:22pm
Reid

stephie once again your comprehension is appalling. Do you actually read anything at all or do you just spend your time hallucinating what others have actually said?

1) I didn’t say it was a UFO indeed I’ve suggested I think around 3 times to date it’s probably terrestrial.
2) I’m not “hoping” for anything you idiot, I simply posted something interesting and asked ‘what is it.’ You don’t know me and you don’t know what I know so please don’t hallucinate you know what “I might hope for” because you wouldn’t have the first clue about that, just as you don’t have the first clue about anything else, as well.
3) It’s not moving erratically those are the camera movements, der, it’s perfectly stationery in the sky by reference to the street lamp.
4) It’s a black triangle so it’s not a weather balloon, der again.
5) It’s clearly under intelligent control by virtue of the fact those lights aren’t random naturally generated and the fact it’s stationery. It could be remote or it could be piloted but it’s intelligently controlled, either way.

The only ‘black programme vehicle I know of is the car Dave Shaft drove in the movie Shaft

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=aurora+tr-3b&oq=aurora+tr-3b&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.13193j0j7&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8
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March 23, 2014 7:25pm
nasska

UFO fans. Create the effect of being abducted by aliens by drinking two bottles of vodka while in a gay bar. You’ll invariably wake up in a strange place the following morning, having had your memory mysteriously erased & your arse probed.
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March 23, 2014 7:27pm
UglyTruth

You really are certifiably mad.

Says they guy who posts about imaginary debt as if it was real.
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March 23, 2014 7:33pm
Judith

@ Reid (15,205 comments) says:
March 23rd, 2014 at 7:25 pm

That link is actually quite weird, because this Orb thingy, (bought from Harvey Norman) has a light panel virtually the same, and honestly, hovering at night by remote control, looks virtually identical to the video you provided.

I guess I’m a skeptic when it comes to videos on you tube, and scientifically my knowledge is so limited that I really don’t understand the technical stuff involved to determine whether its a hoax or not.
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March 23, 2014 7:36pm
mikenmild

Hah. Ugly thinks other people are mad.
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March 23, 2014 7:37pm
RichardX

It is amazing how the mythology changes
The original 1980s Aurora story was about the Hypersonic Mach 5+ replacement for the SR71
Now it appears that it may be something that can hover silently and put on a light show for the residents of SE QLD
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March 23, 2014 7:40pm
Judith

So what is the opposite of madness?

Hot has cold. In has out.

Perhaps it’s ‘reason’ but then isn’t that determined by the receivers subjective experience?

Maybe its sanity, but then how do we determine who is able to provide a definition for sane, (sane enough) if we don’t have a definition for it to begin with?

I submit both are impossible to determine. 😛 – therefore they are conditions none of us have!
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March 23, 2014 7:44pm
griffith

.Sofia

The ETS has been devalued to worthless by the market saturation of carbon credits generated by the collapse of EX USSR CO 2 heavy industry.

National has signalled unwillingness to engage in effort against AGW by its support of both oil coal and the smelter
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March 23, 2014 7:48pm
griffith

reason and sanity are not the same Judith.

Rational. Rationality is the quality or state of being reasonable, based on facts or reason rather than emotions or feelings.
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March 23, 2014 7:51pm
Judith

@ griffith (252 comments) says:
March 23rd, 2014 at 7:51 pm

…Rationality is the quality or state of being reasonable…

Sheesh, there is certainly one hell of a lot of irrational people out there then!!! 🙂
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March 23, 2014 7:54pm
mikenmild

Not all of them are on Kiwiblog either.
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March 23, 2014 7:58pm
freemark

“Key annoys the spoilt brat Norman. Good one JK”
I think JK was probably apologising for the fact that in a land of All Blacks, Sir Ed, Sir Peter (Blake & Jackson) and a whole lot more inspiring & heroic people we allow a wimpy little squeeky voiced Ginga to lead (sorry, co-lead) a political party.
Fixed it for ya 🙂
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March 23, 2014 7:59pm
Johnboy

I’m here though Milky! 🙂
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March 23, 2014 7:59pm
nasska

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March 23, 2014 8:00pm
griffith

Sane is a value judgment

rational is a way of thinking

I could be clinically insane or meet the criteria for mental disorder yet still function on a rational level.

The more I see of the KB community the more I realise how well grounded I am. 😆

Its like posting “they changed the name from global warming” when arguing against the IPClimate Change est 1988. Mad.
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March 23, 2014 8:01pm
Johnboy

You missed: http://www.kiwiblog.women.com.fugly nasska! 🙂
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March 23, 2014 8:02pm
UglyTruth

Ugly thinks other people are mad.

I do? How do you tell madness from sanity, mikenmild?
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March 23, 2014 8:02pm
mikenmild

Madness is socially defined. Ugly could write ‘I am sane’ and see how many upticks he gets.
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March 23, 2014 8:05pm
Johnboy

http://www.literotica.com/s/judith-my-slut-judiths-story 🙂
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March 23, 2014 8:09pm
Judith

rational is a way of thinking

But isn’t that also determined by value judgment as well?
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March 23, 2014 8:11pm
griffith

Subjective evaluation of mental disorders….. 😆

http://rdos.net/eng/Aspie-quiz.php

http://www.gifteddevelopment.com/ADJ/scale.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_testing

I would rather be ……. way out the other side……Not normal on these mental tests 😆
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March 23, 2014 8:11pm
RightNow

You really are certifiably mad.

It’s a prerequisite to get a certificate of sanity.
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March 23, 2014 8:12pm
griffith

Catch 22

if you are sane enough to recognise your own madness your cannot be mad.
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March 23, 2014 8:14pm
Johnboy

“Madness is socially defined. Ugly could write ‘I am sane’ and see how many upticks he gets.”

I write hugely intelligent uplifting comments and still I suffer from Minus’s downticks! 🙂
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March 23, 2014 8:15pm
Don the Kiwi

LOOK OUT GUYS – JOHNBOY IS HERE 1111

Lock up your sheep.

Gidday johnboy – I hope your day hasn’t been too baa – aa -aad ? 😉
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March 23, 2014 8:18pm
nasska

Probably someone sitting in a darkened doorway who’s bored waiting JB. 🙂
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March 23, 2014 8:19pm
UglyTruth

Madness is socially defined.

No it isn’t.

Synonyms of sanity are: reason, rationality, sensibleness, reasonableness.
Reason is fundamentally connected to the law of the land.
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March 23, 2014 8:19pm
Judith

Minus’s downticks ?

Checked it on Wikipedia’s symptom sorter, and nothing came up – obviously no cure for it, but it can’t be contagious because there were no warnings either. Clearly you are going to live, until you die.
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March 23, 2014 8:21pm
Johnboy

No it’s not Nosti nasska. Like me he’s too upfront about his hatred. 🙂
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March 23, 2014 8:22pm
Don the Kiwi

Judith is trying to tell us something about rationality.

And she vote for Labour????

Subject FAIL. 🙂
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March 23, 2014 8:22pm
Johnboy

Don’t forget Helen’s government brought in legalised whoring Don! 🙂
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March 23, 2014 8:26pm
griffith

” law of the land ”

The land has no law

But the law enforced by men on men
Our system of sov….

Nah its ugly.
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March 23, 2014 8:26pm
Don the Kiwi

Does that include prostituting ewes, johnboy.

You’ll make a mint outa your flock – unless you’re the best customer. 🙂
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March 23, 2014 8:27pm
Johnboy

Anyway. Minus must be having a shower at the mo! 🙂
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March 23, 2014 8:27pm
Sofia

“Sir, you are drunk.”
 “Madam, you are Ugly. In the morning, I shall be sober.” 🙂
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March 23, 2014 8:29pm
Judith

@ Don the Kiwi (1,282 comments) says:
March 23rd, 2014 at 8:22 pm

I’ve voted for labour three times in my life, and I’m 56.

I haven’t voted for labour in the last 9 years.

I do not deny that my political views are probably slightly more to the left than right at this time in my life, but up until the the last two decades they were very firmly with the smurf team.

At this point in time, I would refrain from voting this year, except my father would probably haunt me, so I shall probably conduct a scientific calculation and go ‘eeny meeny minny moe’ (there is only one party I refuse to vote for – so it will be among the rest – unless Rodney Hide returned to Act, in which case I would vote for him 🙂 )

you should never presume that just because a person is critical of the current government that it makes them automatically Labour!
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March 23, 2014 8:30pm
mikenmild

Reputedly an exchange between Winston Churchill and Lady Astor.
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March 23, 2014 8:31pm
Judith

@ Sofia (749 comments) says:
March 23rd, 2014 at 8:29 pm

Is that you Mr Churchill?
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March 23, 2014 8:31pm
Johnboy

Is that 56 round the bust, waist, or arse Judith? 🙂
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March 23, 2014 8:32pm
Judith

@ Johnboy (13,138 comments) says:
March 23rd, 2014 at 8:32 pm

It’s the number of summers I’ve seen, but should be less one – when I was on the tuther side of the globe and managed to have two winters in one year.
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March 23, 2014 8:35pm
Johnboy

Thank goodness for that Judith, if it was your measurements you’d make all our summers suffer from eclipse’s! 🙂
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March 23, 2014 8:38pm
stigie

Im missing Minus, no fun without him/her.

Hey, it would’nt be Reddy would it ?
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March 23, 2014 8:40pm
Johnboy

Why should minus be giving you one Judith?
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March 23, 2014 8:40pm
Johnboy

No stigie. Reddy could give multiple minus’s! 🙂
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March 23, 2014 8:42pm
UglyTruth

The land has no law

A law is a relationship between cause and effect.
The law of the land is about cause and effect within the realm of ethics relating to man and his environment.
It’s like science in that it depends on reason but unlike science it considers the role of free will.
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March 23, 2014 8:42pm
stigie

Bring the hay in Nasska for the good time thats to be had !!~
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March 23, 2014 8:42pm
Judith

@ Johnboy (13,140 comments) says:
March 23rd, 2014 at 8:40 pm

Because there are some people that conduct their entire lives based on their political preferences. Some of them (not all) seem to use political affiliation as a measure for all things.

I wonder how they would get on if they needed emergency medical treatment and found out the surgeon voted for the other party? Would they die rather than have a Winston supporter operate, or maybe refuse treatment because the lady that cleaned and disinfected the operating theater was a labour voter?

Such people must certainly lead very difficult lives, no wonder they are so uptight!
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March 23, 2014 8:47pm
griffith

I Had voted national.
Untill Roger D Labour….ACT
Nodding terms with RD since circa 1972 gardened for him around the time he was in labour
His economic policy inspired me to do eco 101.
So I could understand his reasoning.
Unfinished business should be refered to as often as RFR. 😆
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March 23, 2014 8:51pm
Johnboy

Quite right Judith. Small minded folk. Despite our differing political views I would give you one uppsy like a shot given the chance! 🙂
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March 23, 2014 8:52pm
stephieboy

Speaking of Laws this is getting utterly ridiculous,
Islamic law is adopted by British legal chiefs
Solicitors told how to draw up Sharia-style wills penalising widows and non-believers.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/10716844/Islamic-law-is-adopted-by-British-legal-chiefs.html
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March 23, 2014 8:52pm
mikenmild

You can’t have been happy with ACT’s flirtation with climate change ‘skepticism’ then griffith.
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March 23, 2014 8:54pm
griffith

Mike
The last three years on KB.
Has taught me many things
My Alarmist 😆 position was sparked by natural curiosity –reading the posts in both sides of the “argument” on GD.KB .
So many of the posts by those more confident of the future than the IPCC linked to a small group of Blogs and news sources and the obvious source of deceit in their presentations . Three years….I represent New….RW politics…… because of the denial of the Mainstream right.
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March 23, 2014 9:07pm
griffith

Questions that becomes obvious if you are wired for playing chess not poker.

Who gets to jump on NZ inc ?

How many ?

Positive social value/How can we tell the Hairdressers
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March 23, 2014 9:40pm
Sofia

Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill, yes
But, Bessie Braddock: “Sir, you are drunk.”

Nancy Astor: “Sir, if you were my husband, I would give you poison.” 
Churchill: “If I were your husband I would take it.”
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March 23, 2014 9:45pm
Ben Dover

SWEET DREAMS

SAY ONE THING DO ANOTHER

18th of March _ Tuesday
Order More Combat readiness of the PLA
PLA orders discussion of combat readiness

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The People's Liberation Army (PLA) General Political Department has ordered the army and armed police across the nation to discuss combat readiness and effectiveness, the PLA Daily reported on Tuesday.

The PLA Daily said the across-the-board discussion aims at instilling the concept of combat readiness, adding that the discussion will be the army's prime political task this year.

The PLA General Political Department has required military officers to learn modern military technologies and IT knowledge and to analyze what it takes to win a modern war.

The discussion will entail weeding out military practices that run counter to the "combat-readiness standard" and learning the Communist Party of China (CPC) Central Military Commission (CMC) chairman Xi Jinping's remarks on national defense and army building, according to the PLA Daily.

Xi, who leads the country's reform on national defense and the armed forces, stressed that military reform should be guided by the objective of building a strong army at a key military reform meeting on Saturday.

With "being able to combat and win battles" as the focus, Xi said at the meeting the reform should target key problems in strengthening combat preparedness and weak links in honing combat effectiveness.

19th of March
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/849561.shtml#.Uy7AsSh145s
Cooperation between China and New Zealand is pioneering and exemplary, said Chinese President Xi Jinping as he met with visiting New Zealand Prime Minister John Key in Beijing on Wednesday.

Cooperation between China and New Zealand is pioneering and exemplary, said Chinese President Xi Jinping as he met with visiting New Zealand Prime Minister John Key in Beijing on Wednesday.

During the meeting at the Great Hall of the People, Xi highlighted agreements between the two countries on direct trading of currencies, saying that he believes Key's China tour will instil new vitality into the bilateral relationship.

On Tuesday, Key and Chinese Premier Li Keqiang announced the beginning of direct trading between the RMB and NZ dollar. Key is on a three-day working visit to China as Li's guest.

Wednesday's meeting was the third over the past year between Xi and Key, which, as the Chinese president said, has fully demonstrated the two sides' great attention to the bilateral relationship.

Xi said there is immense potential for China-NZ cooperation and both sides bear sincere aspirations to know each other more deeply and boost cooperation further.

Xi called for closer China-New Zealand cooperation on farming, green energy, energy saving, emission reduction, high technology, culture, education and tourism.

"The Chinese side stands ready to make joint efforts with New Zealand to lead the bilateral comprehensive partnership to a new high on the basis of mutual respect and win-win reciprocity," Xi said.

Key said China has become New Zealand's biggest trading partner, top country of origin of foreign students and the second largest country of origin of tourists.

The New Zealand side respects China's core interests and looks forward to closer cooperation with China, said the prime minister, adding that his country welcomes investment from China and will guarantee the quality of food exported to China with a strict standard and in a responsible way.

Key said he is confident that the two countries will achieve the target of trading volume, set at 30 billion NZ dollars (some 26 billion US dollars) annually, in 2020.

Key said the New Zealand side will back China's work to host the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) summit in Beijing in November.

Key also expressed his sympathy to the Chinese side on the missing of Malaysian jetliner MH370, which carried 239 people, including 154 Chinese passengers. Xi said the Chinese government will never give up searching if there is still hope.
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March 24, 2014 12:16am
Manolo

On Clinton’s chances: Hillary will be 68 years old by next election, and with one stroke there is a very good chance the wind bag will be dead before she can run.
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March 24, 2014 6:47am
ShawnLH

“So you rejected ‘authoritarian’ atheism in favour of what? An authoritarian religion, perhaps?”

No. The liberty of Christ. I leave authoritarianism to these guys, your fellow atheist travellers:

http://cdn.motinetwork.net/religifake.com/image/religion/1210/imagine-religion-marx-lenin-stalin-mao-groucho-religion-1349711574.jpg
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