General Debate 21 February 2014

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Lucia Maria

Nasska,

Nothing there in Brian Rudman’s opinion piece that I disagree with.

Reid,

I had a run in with a blogger turned lawyer last year who was right into the defamation thing. Made me wonder if I got onto her bad side in a worse way than I already was at that point, would she decide I was defaming her and come after me the way she went after another blogger. I’m sure you know who I mean, though I dare not mention the name given the potential threat.

Anyway, that really got me thinking about defamation and how it can be misused. And that experience makes me look askance at those who use it frequently, citing pain and suffering, loss of good name, etc, etc.

Maybe I’m being a bit harsh with Colin Craig given my personal experience, however, whether or not it changes the opinion of most voters who may give him a tick or two at election time, it has certainly lowered him as a man in my eyes.
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February 21, 2014 8:19pm
SPC

No longer the champions and no longer receiving favour from referees, and no Carter to do the kicking, it’s tough being a Crusader these days.
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February 21, 2014 8:27pm
Johnboy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoQ-8cfQGCo

🙂
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February 21, 2014 8:29pm
Elaycee

@Johnboy: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo….

What the hell have you been drinking? 😯
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February 21, 2014 8:34pm
SPC

Johnboy has been drinking with a cowcockie.
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February 21, 2014 8:35pm
nasska

Sometimes … when you cry … no one sees your tears… Sometimes… when you are in pain… no one sees you’re hurt… Sometimes… when you are worried…. no one sees your stress…Sometimes … when you are happy … no one sees your smile … But try shagging a sheep in the hotel carpark just one fucking time & see how much attention you get.
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February 21, 2014 8:36pm
Johnboy

Do you think it might be that little bottle of holy water that I brought back from my pilgrimage to the Vatican Elaycee?

The lovely Nuns that I purchased it from did look askance when I asked if it would reverse my liver damage if I added it to my Whisky! 🙂
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February 21, 2014 8:40pm
Johnboy

In Wainui we only shag the sheep in the carpark after sunset nasska so no one sees us. You Ekatahuna folks aren’t very smart to be honest. 🙂
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February 21, 2014 8:42pm
Elaycee

That could explain it, Johnboy. Makes sense…. after all, you can’t be sure with the left footers. 😛

Either that, or some miserable sod has swapped your Gordons for white spirits.
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February 21, 2014 8:44pm
nasska

But we’re straight up about it JB…..you city slickers really lay on the kink. 🙂

Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ub5vox42a8s5pqe/Sheep%2016.jpg
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February 21, 2014 8:49pm
Johnboy

Is there any truth in the rumour that HOBM and Petone are going to amalgamate this season so they can put up a half decent challenge to Wainui Elaycee? 🙂
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February 21, 2014 8:51pm
SPC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-4lk2-UA_I
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February 21, 2014 8:52pm
Johnboy

I think I bought her two double bourbons last saturday nasska! 🙂
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February 21, 2014 8:54pm
Elaycee

Doubt it, Johnboy. You’d get better odds on seeing a pterodactyl flying down Woburn Road and stopping for a pint at the Belle Vue.
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February 21, 2014 8:54pm
Johnboy

Don’t write the rumour off to fast Elaycee. Once Gareth the Catkiller has evicted Petone from his new roundball stadium they will need someone to take them in! 🙂
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February 21, 2014 8:59pm
Johnboy

I think that group’s playing at the Fitzroy tomorrow night SPC. 🙂
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February 21, 2014 9:01pm
SPC

Is there any truth to the rumours that

1. Sheep famers will not allow Australians to work as shepherds on their farms
2. Shearing gangs have to sign a contract to the effect they only touch sheep for the purposes of shearing them
3. When famers complain of sheep theft, they really mean stealing of their affection
4. That those farmers who convert their farm to dairying, keep some of the old flock for personal use – they have not gone bi-sexual for the cows with the big black booties on.
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February 21, 2014 9:03pm
nasska

I meant to keep this to myself SPC but Johnboy’s been sighted wanking outside the Wainuiomata Butchery.

Turns out he’s into bestiality & necrophilia. 🙂
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February 21, 2014 9:07pm
Johnboy

I have never, ever suggested Lucia was a cow SPC! 🙂
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February 21, 2014 9:09pm
SPC

nasska, kea could have told johnboy that the OT instructs us not to mix the meats (a form of bisexuality) and to keep his blood away from the meat that he eats.
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February 21, 2014 9:10pm
Elaycee

@JB: Petone Rec is another of Gareth’s kites. I doubt it’ll happen…. a purpose built stadium for the Phoenix? Nah. Besides, the WRU has already said “No, thanks” – the same with the Hurricanes. So they would have to go it alone.

I suspect this is simply another Gareth brain fade that he wants to be able to drop on the table when the Phoenix contract is renewed at the Stadium. Anyway, wasn’t a condition of the Phoenix being accepted into the AFL that they would have a home ground that could seat 20,000?
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February 21, 2014 9:10pm
Johnboy

Not a prob Elaycee. Seeing as they are soccer fans that would be 10,000 on seats and the other 10,000 on their laps! 🙂
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February 21, 2014 9:15pm
Elaycee

Haha – love it.
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February 21, 2014 9:17pm
Johnboy

… the OT instructs us not to mix the meats..

So multiple penetration is out with you then SPC?

You wouldn’t last long in Wainui lad! 🙂
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February 21, 2014 9:17pm
nasska

Wainuiomations just do it different SPC. 🙂
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February 21, 2014 9:26pm
freemark

I say good on Craig. Wussel and all the other Communists spout so much shit to gain a few ticks by the uninformed and gullible that he needs to be called on it. Vote this comment up if you’ve been called racist, homophobic, misogynist or worse for trying to legitimately question or openly debate some current or historical topical issues with left leaning people…
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February 21, 2014 9:27pm
Johnboy

Night nasska. Night Elaycee. Night SPC. Night Lucia! 🙂
Big kisses and upticks to all.

Night Minus! 🙂
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February 21, 2014 9:29pm
SPC

Johnboy, I first became aware that Wainui was a frontier town when I witnessed the males taking their girlfriends for a walk along the sidelines of a rugby field. They would only let their girlfriends loose when an inter-team group conference occurred.
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February 21, 2014 9:34pm
publicwatchdog

Well – it will be fascinating tomorrow to see how many anonymous Kiwibloggers who agree that Auckland Mayor Len Brown should stand down, will actually ‘walk the talk’?

LEN BROWN – STAND DOWN!

Assemble 11.30am Britomart
March starts 12 noon from Britomart
March ends at Airedale Street

I’ll be one of the speakers at the end of the march, focusing on how I think Auckland Mayor Len Brown crossed the line when he accepted undisclosed gifts from Sky City during a time that Sky City was an ‘item of business’ before Auckland Council, and Len Brown was supporting Sky City.

Also I’ll be exposing how the Ernst and Young Report, did NOT follow the ‘due process’ as outlined in the Auckland Council Code of Conduct, s8 – Compliance:

http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/SiteCollectionDocuments/aboutcouncil/governingbody/codeofconductelectedmembers.pdf

8.5. Conduct Review Independent Panel

The governing body shall constitute a Conduct Review Independent Panel. The members of the Panel will be selected from a list of persons with appropriate skills and knowledge, to be recommended by the Chief Executive. The Independent Panel is not a Committee of the governing body and its sole function is to investigate those matters referred to it and to make recommendations on those matters to the governing body/local board. Up to three members on the list will be deemed to be ‘convenors’ who will be the Council’s primary contact in relation to convening a panel when required. ‘Convening’ a panel includes chairing that panel. A convenor may appoint other convenors to a panel.

8.6. Procedures of the Conduct Review Independent Panel

The Independent Panel will establish and notify standard procedures, fair to both complainants and respondents, which it will apply to the investigation and consideration of all complaints referred to it.

8.7. Governing Body/Local Board Consideration

In considering the Panel’s recommendation, the matter shall be considered with neither the complainant nor the respondent being entitled to participate in that item.

8.8. Responses to Breaches of the Code

To avoid doubt, a breach of the Code of Conduct does not constitute an offence under the Local Government Act 2002. The exact nature of the action the governing body/local boardmay take depends on the nature of the breach and whether there are statutory provisions dealing with the breach.

Where there are statutory provisions:breaches relating to members’ interests may render members liable for prosecution by the Auditor-General under the Local Authority (Members’ Interests) Act 1968;

breaches which result in the Council suffering financial loss or damage may be reported on by the Auditor-General under the Local Government Act 2002, which may result in the member having to make good the loss or damage;

breaches relating to the commission of a criminal offence may leave the elected member liable for criminal prosecution.

In these cases the governing body or local board may refer an issue to the relevant body, any member of the public may make a complaint to that body, or the Auditor-General or Police may take action of their own initiative.

Where there are no statutory provisions, the governing body or local board may take the following action:censure;
removal of the elected member from representative type bodies;dismissal of the elected member from a position as Chair or Deputy Chair of a committee.

A decision to apply one or more of these actions requires a resolution to that effect.

……………..”
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________

Why did (former) Auckland Council CEO Doug McKay, not follow this process?

Upon what lawful authority did (former) Auckland Council CEO Doug McKay, effectively make up his own process, and appoint his own people?

(His statutory duties are enshrined in the Local Government Act 2002, s42

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2002/0084/latest/DLM171859.html

42Chief executive

(1)A local authority must, in accordance with clauses 33 and 34 of Schedule 7, appoint a chief executive.

(2)A chief executive appointed under subsection (1) is responsible to his or her local authority for—

(a)implementing the decisions of the local authority; and

(b)providing advice to members of the local authority and to its community boards, if any; and

(c)ensuring that all responsibilities, duties, and powers delegated to him or her or to any person employed by the local
authority, or imposed or conferred by an Act, regulation, or bylaw, are properly performed or exercised; and
………………………
___________________________________________________________________________________________________

That’s why I have made a formal complaint to Auckland Police, alleging ‘Contravention of Statute’, (s107 Crimes Act 1961), against (former) Auckland Council CEO Doug McKay.

This complaint is currently being assessed by an Inspector attached to Auckland CIB.

There will be more (but not much time – only got 4 minutes! 🙂

Kind regards,

Penny Bright

‘Anti-corruption / anti-privatisation’ campaigner.

2013 Auckland Mayoral candidate

(More background on this, and related issues can be found on http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz )
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February 21, 2014 9:35pm
cha

Everybody’s getting involved.

This is a bad ass priest #euromaidan

pic.twitter.com/xFWCvol10Z

https://twitter.com/BSpringnote/statuses/436490988614201345
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February 21, 2014 9:37pm
Johnboy

I just had to log back in to give Penny her first one for tonight! 🙂

Night all! 🙂
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February 21, 2014 9:38pm
SPC

Cowcockies take an way win over the sheep crusaders.
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February 21, 2014 9:41pm
freemark

I’ll be watching with interest Penny…but it’s not your non-paid Rates that are going on the Council Credit Card is it? I detect a fairly smelly whiff of self interest or worse you being a candidate n all..especially when I see you condoning and desperate to join all the the other bullshitting Leftie Troughers in the NZ Political scene…
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February 21, 2014 9:41pm
big bruv

“I’ll be one of the speakers at the end of the march,”

Well that’s the end of that march being a success.
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February 21, 2014 9:42pm
Steve (North Shore)

Pay your Rates Penny and – oh fuck it, never mind
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February 21, 2014 9:50pm
Ryan Sproull

I say good on Craig. Wussel…

Does anyone else just stop reading when someone is such a fucking pubescent child that they replace an R with a W and think they’re either being clever or making some kind of point?

So depressing. The bodies and responsibilities of grown adults, the words and actions of children.
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February 21, 2014 10:07pm
Harriet

“…..If he wins[Craig], he also sends a shaft of fear into the heart of every politician and media organisation considering belittling and criticism without substances, and thereby lifts the general tone of political debate, for which even those who will never vote for him, will thank him….”

Very good post Reid.

Craig is far stronger than John Key. As Craig is also going to take all of Winston’s votes.

The worst two time wasting loud mouths in parliment will then be silenced – by Mr Craig.

John Key knows that – as he has failed to shut both of them up – no wonder he is now trying so hard to talk tough about Mr Craig’s legal actions – he doesn’t want to look weak compared to Mr Craig.

Winston will sacrifice himself in the face of the public with lies ect so that National gets what they are fucken scared of – Mr Craig and the Conservatives – as Winny knows his voters are going there.

If that is what his voters want – then Winny will deliver it – and walk away withy his pride intact!! 😎
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February 21, 2014 10:27pm
freemark

“Does anyone else just stop reading when ….”

Apparently not… interesting how rather than addressing the post about grossly dishonest comments by Clint’s sock puppet you focus on a well deserved (IMHO) textual caricature of a total fuckwit.

Wyan..
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February 21, 2014 10:49pm
Ryan Sproull

Apparently not… interesting how rather than addressing the post about grossly dishonest comments by Clint’s sock puppet you focus on a well deserved (IMHO) textual caricature of a total fuckwit.

If you want grown-ups to address your points, speak like a grown-up. Others manage to point out Green Party flaws without talking like children. Follow their example. And if you can’t find an example of adult comments to emulate, be a good example yourself.

But off the top of my head, look to Fletch, Kimble and Lucia Maria for examples of right-wingers who can make their points without acting like 14-year-olds.
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February 21, 2014 11:46pm
Scott Chris

Here you go Ryan – something to cheer you up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K8_jgiNqUc
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February 21, 2014 11:51pm
Ryan Sproull

Oh, Scott, you know just what to say.

Here’s one for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brU_Pp-20g0
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February 21, 2014 11:53pm
freemark

“But off the top of my head, look to Fletch, Kimble and Lucia Maria for examples of right-wingers who can make their points without acting like 14-year-olds.”
So, once again no ability to address the comment, let’s divert by having a go at the delivery etc. Sure you are on the right blog?
It never ceases to amaze me how the blind zealots rush en mass to defend their idols, disregarding all the evidence of corruption, dishonesty & hypocrisy.
Gween thupporter are you Wyan, dethpewately defending Wuthel with online fellation?
Fuckwit.
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February 22, 2014 9:58am
Ryan Sproull

Case in point.
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