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dime

PG – the difference is im not trying to be part of the game. I use twitter to abuse politicians, talk cricket with nick and engage with porn stars, hookers and sexual deviants 🙂 happy dime.

If anyone is having trouble sleeping:

https://twitter.com/PeteDGeorge
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February 20, 2014 12:25pm
nickb

Lol
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February 20, 2014 12:25pm
Carlos

Very interesting. A journalist gate-crashed a plutocratic function in New York. Worth a read to see what happened.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/02/i-crashed-a-wall-street-secret-society.html
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February 20, 2014 12:26pm
big bruv

dime

If you are talking cricket with nickb then for fuck sake tell him that there is no such things as “batters” in the great game. They are called batsmen.
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February 20, 2014 12:39pm
stephieboy

Pussy Riot subjected to deplorable thuggery and a mindless attack by Russian militia and police at Sochi,

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/10649037/Pussy-Riot-attacked-with-whips-by-police-at-Sochi.html
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February 20, 2014 12:50pm
Sofia

Penny Bright, have you issued an invitation to Auckland’s Mayor to attend the Stand Down Brown Protest March Sat 22?
Especially when he has been asked to stay away from the Howick Military Tattoo by Howick ward councillor Sharon Stewart.

If you don’t invite him, you can’t ask by OIA why he declined to attend your rally, since it is all about him.
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February 20, 2014 12:55pm
dime

bruv – nick said youre nothing but a fair weather fan who only watches t20
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February 20, 2014 12:57pm
nickb

Bruv,

That is highly sexist. I assume you don’t know the ICC has now mandated they be referred to as batspersons.
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February 20, 2014 12:57pm
edhunter

Re Blood Donating – emphasis on the donating, I’ve been giving for 20yrs but also like tattoo’s so every time I get some ink done I’m effectively on stand down for a year, all my tattoo’s are done by professionals but NZ Blood has rules so I abide by them off course I could lie & say no, but then that would be me being a selfish prick and making it about me instead of about the community, just as a gay person could lie, or someone who resided in GB for more than 6 months prior to 1995.
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February 20, 2014 1:16pm
kowtow

Pussy Riot breaking the law and getting a bit of rough justice……..shit happens.

I note no one seems to give a shit about an APC and its crew being incinerated in Kiev.(cameras seem to stop as it lights up,we can’t have bad publicity for the anti Russian protestors can we)
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February 20, 2014 1:23pm
Keeping Stock

@ big bruv – “batter” is the coating around a piece of fish from the local shark & tattie shop.

Which reminds me of a true story. Rachel Heyhow-Flint was a former captain of the English women’s cricket team. She was once asked if female cricketers wore boxes, like the men do. “Oh yes” she replied. ” but we call them man-hole covers.”
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February 20, 2014 1:30pm
Chuck Bird

Ed, I think there would be a few homosexuals that lie and do give blood. I do not know if any have been found to have a serious STD including HIV. In the case of HIV I do not think and have passed it on to recipient. However, it may have been detected and they would have been notified and the blood destroyed. This is the argument that these homosexual activists nutcases use saying that HIV and other STDs would be detected. Detection is improving but will probably never be perfect. Homosexuals have a rate of HIV at least 50 times greater that heterosexuals that is why they take a two pronged approach.
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February 20, 2014 1:37pm
srylands

Been watching (and trading a little) in Ipredict stocks:

“There will be a National PM after the election”

“There will be a labour PM after the election”

https://www.ipredict.co.nz/app.php?do=contract_detail&contract=PM.2014.NATIONAL

The price for National has risen steadily since about one month after Cunlifee became leader from 0.48 to 0.62.

Quiz:

Is this pricing trend more likely a result of:

(a) rational traders making assessments of the election outcome; OR

(b) right wing neoliberal economists manipulating the market for political reasons.

Hint:

Choose (a) if you are rational.

Choose (b) if you are a regular contributor to The Standard.

I did (briefly) explain that if one person was buying (or selling) irrationally, profit takers would rush in and the price would revert to a market assessment. But … no luck.
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February 20, 2014 1:49pm
stephieboy

kowtow , you obviously care little about the rule of law whether in Kiev or Sochi.?
And I think most people care a shit about the violence and deaths in the Ukraine and not exclusively you.
Why do these kind of thuggish and brutal attacks in Sochi seem to appeal to you.?
Whats the turn on. ?
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February 20, 2014 1:53pm
ciaron

Pete George (21,190 comments) says:
February 20th, 2014 at 12:02 pm
ciaron – social media is not a wee bubble of bitching on Kiwiblzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

What are trying to say Pete? I really don’t understand. Yesterday, you were saying Colin Craig needed to harden up a bit and not run off to the courts every time someone someone hurts his feelings (or words to that effect). Then today it appears you are the one having a whinge to your jurno (pffft.) mate Garner about yesterdays thread.

QFT:
PG : “@Garner_Live Not just Craig – his fan club on Kiwiblog cry and try and scratch your eyes out if you mention him on Kiwiblog (I quoted you).”

FFS mate, if you have a problem leave it here on the field. Don’t go running off to twitter to slag some of us off like some pissy coward.
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February 20, 2014 2:10pm
kowtow

Pussy riot certainly don’t give a shit about the rule of law or respect for other peoples’ private property.

Fuck ’em and their idiot friends in the west.

“What’s the turn on?” Fuck off.
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February 20, 2014 2:14pm
edhunter

But Stephie if the police hadn’t reacted the way they did, this would be a non-story & not what Pussy Riot or the gaggle of media in attendance would’ve wanted.
Instead of “Pussy Riot attacked with whips by Police” the headline (if there was one) would be “6 Talentless nobodies prance in front of 6 people with cameras”
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February 20, 2014 2:17pm
big bruv

So radio lives new Political panel is Matt McCarten from the left and Deborah Coddington from the right.

Who the fuck do they think they are kidding?????

Coddington is a pure leftie, one who has been taken the cool aide when it comes to handing out our money to things Maori.
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February 20, 2014 2:18pm
dime

Bruv – she drives me nuts! WHen she has been on in the past, she will spout some centre left idea and willie will go “you righties are all the same” blah blah

how on earth did she ever become an ACT mp?
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February 20, 2014 2:28pm
Chuck Bird

Coddington is think as two short planks. When she was talking about what percent of the votes ACT would need to bring in another MP she said oh I think about 3%. She was an MP and does not have a bloody clue how MMP works.
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February 20, 2014 2:32pm
Pete George

Ciarion – suggesting that nothing said here should go anywhere else is a bit gay. DPF discusses KB elsewhere, he’s active in Twitter and Facebook. I often see others mentioning stuff on KB.

Maybe you’re the one who needs to harden up.

In the real world of social media there’s not much that’s confined to one forum. I did a wee experiment this morning, I posted the same thing in a number of forums. So far KB is the only one where there have been pissy attacks and diversions by a few Craig Fans, despite the fact that I essentially supported and agreed with Colin Craig on something. It initiated adult debate in other places with no personal attacks. More on this in due course.
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February 20, 2014 2:33pm
Chuck Bird

I just heard her claiming she is a trophy wife. It is nice to have self confidence but she would need to be 20 years younger to be considered a trophy wife.
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February 20, 2014 2:35pm
dime

“Ciarion – suggesting that nothing said here should go anywhere else is a bit gay” – homophobe.

Ciarion – PG will never get it. Youre dealing with a dude who grew up with about 1 friend. His man card was never revoked because it was never issued 😛

PG – you didnt exactly correct duncan when he said “Religious zealots… My old man was right”. thats hardly how it is. id say about 15% are
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February 20, 2014 2:38pm
ciaron

Sorry Pete, if you have a problem with what someone has said and you choose to take that to another venue to denigrate them, that’s not adult conversation, that’s being a sniveling tool.

I read and comment on other blogs, on other topics, but I have not and will not run off to tell other people, elsewhere; “Oh, that Pete George is just a nasty piece of work”

that’s just being a dick.
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February 20, 2014 2:43pm
stephieboy

big bruv , Deborah Coddington is well known for her support of ACT.
I see, now that she’s left who do you define as right.?
edhunter the issues are very simple.
The right of peaceful protest or not.
A right that is seriously diminishing in Putin’s Russia.
But like kowtow , for you maybe the appeal of a police state is seductive one amongst the far right.i
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February 20, 2014 2:52pm
nickb

Dime, didn’t you remember the post on Imperator Fish? Good summary

By night he is a harmless and mild-mannered man, but by day he takes on a new persona.

A hero to many, Pete George patrols the nation’s blogsites, stifling any hint of strongly held opinion by laying down a solid suppressing fire of derailing comments.

His tireless efforts in front of his computer have earned George the sobriquet The Beige Badger, as well as the gratitude of dozens of grey-haired, cardigan-wearing blog readers.

To many people Pete George is a genuine superhero, keeping New Zealand’s blogsites focused on nothing much in particular.

But George plays down any suggestion that he is a hero.

“I’m just trying to stick up for the ordinary grey man,” he said.

“There’s too much noise out there on the internet, and people need to take a deep breath, calm down, and do nothing.

“I’m just out there doing what any man approaching old age and living a life of complacent and unexamined comfort would be doing, had he endless hours to while away reading blogsites.”

George is famous for his ability to snuff out leftist conspiracies.

Only a few days ago he exposed an ugly plot by left-wing bloggers to launch a concerted attack on all fronts on the nation’s farmers.

One of the bloggers behind the plot, Scott Yorke, said George had put an end to his plans in no time.

“We had all agreed during our weekly left-wing conspiracy meeting to launch simultaneous blog attacks on the hard-working and honest farming community. Martyn and I had the whole thing planned.

“But we had barely fired off a couple of blogposts before the Beige Badger flew in and put a stop to everything.

“A thousand curses upon the Beige Badger!” yelled Mr Yorke. “I will have my revenge!”

But like all heroes, Pete George has a weakness. Superman had Kryptonite, and Pete George has The Standard.

One mention of the popular leftist blogsite is enough to send the Dunedin man into an almost incontrollable frenzy, followed usually by a fainting fit.

“That blog,” hisses George. “Please, don’t talk about that blog. Do you know they banned me? Why would they do that? What are they afraid of? Why are the left in this country so afraid of contrary opinions? It’s censorship! CENSORSHIP!”

George begins to rail angrily against Lynn Prentice, and his eyes soon begin to roll. Within a few minutes he has passed out.

But the Beige Badger is not inactive for very long. His comment-posting capacity is legendary, even if most of those comments are instantly forgettable.

Some social media experts speculate that when future generations look back on the blogosphere and the reasons for its demise, they will find millions of Pete George comments and conclude that it died of boredom.

However, the Beige Badger is not put off by such predictions.

“I have a duty to sterilise all online political discourse in this country,” said George.

“When people stop caring, stop believing, and stop trying, the grey men will have won. And what a glorious day that will be.”
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February 20, 2014 2:58pm
Harriet

“……..“Us” is widely scorned and laughed across social media – Facebook, Twitter and other blogs and forums….”

That’s because they don’t have anything constructive to say PG.

Pro abortion. Pro euthanasia. Pro childless relationships. Pro drugs. Pro promiscurity & it’s partner – sexual diseases.

They don’t foster life – so all they can talk about is what mainstream NZ society is not concerned about.

It’s they who are irrelevent in political debate PG. And life in general. You know that.
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February 20, 2014 3:03pm
stephieboy

Harriet on what factual basis do you claim that those you disagree with you are ,”Pro abortion. Pro euthanasia. Pro childless relationships. Pro drugs. Pro promiscurity & it’s partner – sexual diseases.. etc.?”
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February 20, 2014 3:07pm
Reid

More on this in due course.

Yes, poor old Pete’s been doing some sleuthing, and in his fevered hallucination he’s decided to cover up his shilling by pretending there’s a whole gaggle of Cwaig supporters who lurk here just waiting to pounce and defend their (in Pete’s fevered hallucination) hero. And he’s going to prove that by.. aha! – See?? !! He posted something complimentary at 8.06 which was (in Pete’s fevered hallucination) a plan so clever you could pin a tail on it and call it a weasle, which ABSOLUTELY BEYOND DOUBT proves (in Pete’s fevered hallucination) such a gaggle exists, because see? it was complimentary not critical, and STILL, the gaggle pounced!!!!

!!!!! Duh duh da… !!!!!

But hey don’t let me spoil Pete’s thunder, he’s probably been working on this post all last night and today, so let’s let the baby have his bottle, before we rip his fevered hallucination, known to Pete as “logic,” to pieces. Floor’s yours Pete. Launch away.
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February 20, 2014 3:12pm
Harriet

“…..Harriet on what factual basis do you claim that those you disagree with you are ,”Pro abortion. Pro euthanasia. Pro childless relationships. Pro drugs. Pro promiscurity & it’s partner – sexual diseases.. etc.?”……”

The Daily Blog.

The Standard.

Go tell QOT that siblings who find out that they have had a sibling who was aborted – also suffer from loss – and women are not informed about that.

She wouldn’t put that up when I tried to raise it with her.
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February 20, 2014 3:13pm
stephieboy

Harriet that is hardly factual.
Try again.?
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February 20, 2014 3:20pm
dime

nick – thats fucking hilarious! first time ive seen it
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February 20, 2014 3:30pm
Pete George

ciaron – I think you’re the one being a dick. I didn’t “choose to take that to another venue”. I was on Twitter. Garner said something and I responded, as is normal there.

It’s not as if I don’t address issues here, I often front up to anonymous cowards here who seem to think abuse is a sport. If you don’t think I call crap enough I could try and do it a bit more if that’s what you’re suggesting I should do.
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February 20, 2014 3:35pm
Reid

If you don’t think I call crap enough I could try and do it a bit more if that’s what you’re suggesting I should do.

I’m not sure if the blog could stand even more crap from you Pete. It’s hard enough to tolerate the amount that issues forth already.
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February 20, 2014 3:44pm
Lucia Maria

That Twitter exchange inspired me to leave a comment on Duncan Garner’s post.

I normally ignore Twitter, even though I have an account. Being limited to however many characters reminds too much of the ~~bad old~~ more simple days of computer programming when database fields couldn’t go beyond 255. I just loved it when memo fields came in.
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February 20, 2014 3:52pm
ciaron

What are you on Pete; twitter is not kiwiblog. twitter simply is a different venue.
How do you fail to understand that?
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February 20, 2014 3:56pm
RichardX

Harriet (3,612 comments) says:
February 20th, 2014 at 11:14 am
Life begins BEFORE conception as everything needed already exists between a male and a female, as nothing more is added – life is simply passed on between two humans, and when that happens, ‘another’ homosapien is created. All biologists know that. They get taught that at university

I am astounded at the stupidity & ignorance of such a statement but not surprised given its source
The rest of the post is poorly put together pseudo philosophical crap but to actually state that “Life begins BEFORE conception” is mind blowing even without the claim that all biologists know it because they get taught it at university. To conflate birth and ‘creation’ displays willful ignorance and an agenda unsupported by fact
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February 20, 2014 3:57pm
Manolo

A deluge of crap and bovine excrement has hit KB.
It has been determined the source of the foul substance is Dunedin.
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February 20, 2014 4:00pm
big bruv

Does anybody know how long the beige badger (AKA Pete George) has been a member of Kiwiblog?

It has taken me over ten years to amass 12,000 comments, it seems that Pete has amassed 21,000 in about three years.

We are so lucky that Pete has seen fit to grace us with his wisdom, where the hell would we be without his advice and leadership.
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February 20, 2014 4:19pm
dime

seemed like just yesterday PG hit 20,000 comments..

Just checked, PG hit 20,000 comments Dec 3rd.
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February 20, 2014 4:22pm
ciaron

Dime,
How did you find that out?
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February 20, 2014 4:28pm
Reid

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9745291/Potential-world-beating-tuna-caught

Recreationally caught bluefin is prohibited from commercial sale.

Which is a shame because if you flew it to the Tokyo Fish Market it would probably fetch well over a million $NZ.
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February 20, 2014 4:36pm
Fletch

Good result.

An Aussie software company, Cinematic Strings, that gives discounts to students (as do Adobe and other companies) initially refused to give a discount to an Israeli student because of politics. In the end they were forced to back down because of people’s angry comments and threats of boycott.

This was their original emailed response to the student.

“Hi Yossela,

I am very, very sorry but I will not be able to provide you with a student discount. We support the BDS movement worldwide and the cultural boycott against Israel until Israel ceases its illegal settlement activities in the West Bank and ceases its discrimination against the Palestinian people. Please see this website for further information http://www.bdsmovement.net/activecamps/cultural-boycott.

Please understand that this is not in any way directed at you personally and we have heard from many Israeli students who have been very sympathetic towards the Palestinian people. However we are fairly powerless here in Australia to act on behalf of the victims of oppression and so the BDS is the only way we can have a voice.
We wish you all the best in your future musical endeavours.

Kindest regards,

Alex and the CS team.”

http://www.israellycool.com/2014/02/19/cinematic-strings-of-jew-hatred-musical-bds/

http://www.israellycool.com/2014/02/19/cinematic-strings-back-down-on-bds-against-israeli/
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February 20, 2014 4:45pm
unpcnzcougar

Today’s New Zealand Roy Morgan Poll shows National (48%, up 1%) increasing its lead over a potential Labour/ Greens alliance (42%, down 2%). Support for Key’s Coalition partners shows the Maori Party 0.5% (down 1%), ACT NZ (1%, up 1%) and United Future 0.5% (up 0.5%).

Support for the Labour Party has fallen sharply to 30% (down 3%), while the Greens have risen to 12% (up 1%), New Zealand First 5.5% (up 1%), Mana Party 1% (unchanged), Conservative Party of NZ 1% (down 0.5%) and Internet Party (0.5%, unchanged) while support for Others is now 0% (unchanged).

If a National Election were held now the latest New Zealand Roy Morgan Poll shows that National would be returned to power.
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February 20, 2014 5:34pm
nasska

…..”Conservative Party of NZ 1% (down 0.5%”…..

Who says there isn’t a Good Fairy in the Sky!! 🙂 🙂
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February 20, 2014 5:46pm
flash2846

Wow

According to Duncan Garner 5:50pm today:

David Cunliffe is not too popular again with the Labour party caucus.

The “Anyone but Cunliffe” group has re-formed and the MPs are on a “go slow” expecting Cunliffe to lose the election when they will roll him. He won’t be rolled before the election.

Garners sourses are 1 x sitting MP and 1 x former MP, plus others.
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February 20, 2014 6:01pm
bereal

dime @ 4.22

We note that you have just scored 5 thumbs up so far for that comment.

Is there any other criteria by which one could garner how stupid some drongs are ?

Fuckin pathetic, laughable

i see you have managed 8414 comments.

Where does that leave you ?
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February 20, 2014 6:03pm
bereal

Well. i see young nickb has chimed in on behalf of his mentor.

Another thumbs noted. Big win in your mind nickb.

Why don’t nickb and dime get a room. FFS
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February 20, 2014 6:12pm
Pete George

There was talk amongst journalists yesterday about notable gaps in Labour ranks in Parliament yesterday.

@Garner_Live finished his show by saying some @nzlabour MP’s are worried by @DavidCunliffeMP’s performance GARNER: Labour MPs are worried about David Cunliffe’s performance – Audio
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February 20, 2014 6:15pm
Reid

bereal it was in the context of how prolific Pete is and the relevant information was the date he hit 20000 so we could see how long it took him to add another ~~1100~~ almost 1200.

So where do you get that info from? Thanks.
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February 20, 2014 6:15pm
flash2846

Noted Pete; there are disinterested looks on the faces of the labour team in parliament when Shane Jones speaks as well. Given up maybe; or just frustrated at the constant barrage of lies and negativity from Cunliffe and Jones. Perhaps some of them have a conscience.
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February 20, 2014 6:22pm
Pete George

Good to see you post that at TS unpcnzcougar, they can be a bity slow with unfavourable polls. Earlier this week they blamed Fairfax’s polling methods and always being high for National and flawed by not polling cellphones but Roy Morgan wlil be a major blow – a horrible trend for Labour.
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February 20, 2014 6:24pm
bereal

Reid,

you wanna gauge correspondents by the number of comments in the shortest possible time
then dime and young nickb would win hands down, no contest.

How relevant are their comments ?

Thats another subject.

Thanks.
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February 20, 2014 6:25pm
dime

i just googled “pete george 20,000 kiwiblog”

first result was this:

20,000 | Your NZ
yournz.org/2013/12/03/20000/‎
I have just clocked up 20000 comments on Kiwiblog.Why? Because I … Kiwiblog 20000. Why? Because I … by Pete George on December 3, 2013

i didnt click the link.. that seems like the right date though
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February 20, 2014 6:25pm
dime

bereal you angry drunk.

you obviously havent died yet so one has to assume you are still eating shit? got a taste for it?
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February 20, 2014 6:26pm
Reid

Thanks for nothing bereal, thanks for that dime.

FYI bereal, I thought there might be a place on wordpress which had summary data such as karma, posts, etc. With the intention of doing precisely what you were saying. Duh.

i didnt click the link..

Good thinking dime, very wise.
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February 20, 2014 6:28pm
bereal

Yep.

dime rises to his highest level @ 6.26

Just fukin pathetic dime. “Eating shit.”

Seems we are now talking your language.

You saddo.
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February 20, 2014 6:29pm
dime

let it all out bereal. better you tee off on uncle dime than some poor person that lives with you.
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February 20, 2014 6:34pm
nickb

What an utter knuckle dragging prog wasteland GD is today (someone had to say it).
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February 20, 2014 6:36pm
bereal

Jeez dime,

you just get worser and worserer.
Let me spell it out for you…….

I just called you out for sinking down into the gutter with your comments but….

You don’t even get it do you, you drong.

Remember, ‘Eating shit.” your term.

Talk about having to eat your own words.
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February 20, 2014 6:41pm
Pete George

Reid, what’s your analysis of this: Roy Morgan – Conservative Party

1.5 – Oct 28-Nov 10, 2013
2.0 – Nov 11-24, 2013
2.0 – Nov 25-Dec 8, 2013
2.5 – Jan 6-19, 2014
1.5 – Jan 20-Feb 2, 2014
1.0 – Feb 3-16, 2014

I think you said something yesterday about then continuing to grow their support.
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February 20, 2014 6:48pm
nasska

There must be some mistake PG…..I’m sure I read somewhere that Mr Craig was gathering support every time he opened his trap & shoved his foot in it.

Then again…..maybe not. 🙂
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February 20, 2014 6:54pm
Reid

Pete from that data I think it’s too early to tell but one thing’s for sure, he’s doing a remarkable job given the opposition he faces from almost the entire media and almost every politician, isn’t he.

How’s Dunne doing? I bet he’s not doing very well at all. Let’s see his data, Pete.
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February 20, 2014 6:57pm
nasska

Reid

If he becomes a bit more remarkable he’ll disappear out the back door. 🙂
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February 20, 2014 7:04pm
Pete George

Ohariu’s looking ok Reid, Labour have announced their candidate, not surprisngly it’s a woman – Virginia Andersen.
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February 20, 2014 7:06pm
Reid

Never mind, I just checked. It’s bad, it’s really really bad, isn’t it Pete. I mean, given Dunne is in Cabinet, he’s been an MP and Party Leader for all these years, and still all he can do is…

0.5 – Oct 28-Nov 10, 2013
0.5 – Nov 11-24, 2013
^ – Nov 25-Dec 8, 2013
0.5 – Jan 6-19, 2014
^ – Jan 20-Feb 2, 2014
0.5 – Feb 3-16, 2014

^ = result less than 0.5%

Awwwwwww Pete. That’s really really really really sad for you and the lying philanderer, isn’t it. How does that make you feel? Desperate? Angry? That Craig is just gliding past, with no apparent effort whatsoever, while Dunne struggles and struggles and struggles and nothing works, nothing at all.

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

Ohariu’s looking ok Reid, Labour have announced their candidate, not surprisngly it’s a woman – Virginia Andersen.

Yes Pete, BUT WE’RE NOT TALKING ABOUT OHARIU, ARE WE. as you well know. See, if I’d done what you just did, you’d call me a liar, wouldn’t you. I bet your face is all beetroot right now, isn’t it.
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February 20, 2014 7:07pm
Pete George

It’s worth noting the Morgan polling period was February 3-16 which is up until Sunday so Craig might pick up something for his efforts this week, his legal threat was after this period.
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February 20, 2014 7:08pm
nasska

PG

He can’t keep it up. To stop the CCCP from disappearing down the toilet he’s going to have to threaten to sue someone at least every three days for another nine months.

Time to rehabilitate Graham Capill & get someone who knows how to grab a headline to front the party. 🙂
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February 20, 2014 7:13pm
Pete George

That’s normal for UF and I don’t care about it, not my problem – and no one is claiming they’re polling really well, nor claiming they’re trending up despite being too arrogant to bother to actually check any facts.
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February 20, 2014 7:14pm
Reid

Pete, you’re acting like you want to scratch my eyes out, just like you complained others do to you, on twitter to Duncan today.

Seriously, when a veteran politician whose in Cabinet no less with all of the advantages that longevity and seniority confers, consistently polls less than a half and often less even than a quarter than someone whose new on the block and who the media and most political competitors clearly hate, you have to conclude, from the data, that the former is a loser and the latter is a winner, there’s no other possible conclusion, from the data, is there.
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February 20, 2014 7:17pm
Andrei

Now here’s a scary thought P. Dunne has been in Parliament longer than many New Zealanders have been alive and has represented 4 different parties plus been an “independent” in that time.

He reinvents himself every election, I guess, depending upon which way the wind is blowing.

P. George with his fence sitting is a wonderful acolyte
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February 20, 2014 7:20pm
Pete George

After being such a know-it-all cock (that got it all wrong) you deserve getting something dished back.

Who won something last election? Who outspent just about every other party and failed despite claiming the polls showed he would romp in?

The only conclusion that’s worth worrying about is politics is about finding a way of succeeding and playing a part in Government. Polls don’t mean diddly-squat without resulting in something tangible.
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February 20, 2014 7:23pm
dime

Heres the thing about colin craig. he’s just a normal dude whos started up a party and he managed 2.5%? of the vote in the last election

its quite impressive. the fact that he’s hung on and is still out polling other parties with sitting MP’s is also impressive.

its not like he jumped ship like the maoris, united, hone, act, nzfirst, alliance, whatever anderton morphed into to start up.

if he can win an electorate and learns how to do an interview then he could easily end up a player for years to come.

its actually kinda nice to know that a single person can still get something up and running.
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February 20, 2014 7:23pm
Reid

P. George with his fence sitting is a wonderful acolyte

He would be Andrei if his mind didn’t resemble a Miguel de Cervantes novel.
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February 20, 2014 7:24pm
dime

“After being such a know-it-all cock (that got it all wrong) you deserve getting something dished back.” lol said PG?
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February 20, 2014 7:24pm
cha

Live stream from Kiev.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/Y_LFrMcoEm4
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February 20, 2014 7:25pm
Steve (North Shore)

@Pete George,
You are fast becoming as popular as Len Brown around here. Keep digging.
As you said, “many read but do not comment” – that’s because they can’t stand your corksoaking to UF and whoring to your own blog.
I just scroll down when I see a comment from Pete George, as I do with Penny Bright and other morons
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February 20, 2014 7:28pm
Andrei

I wonder who funds Espreso TV Cha?

A nice shiny new TV channel from Ukraine that just happened to come into existence a few months ago
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February 20, 2014 7:33pm
cha

If you don’t like it Andrei here’s three more to choose from.

http://feed.matthewkeys.net/cr1/
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February 20, 2014 7:37pm
deadrightkev

Dime

In a nutshell you have pretty much summed Craig up and very accurately on a personal perspective as well. He does not have a self interested agenda like the other “leaders” of political parties. He is quite an enigma. I probably will vote Act for the party vote and CP for the candidate.

Only a deeply patriotic Kiwi (or fool) concerned for his country puts his hand into his pocket for almost $2M. Contrast Craig to Dunne or Peters who have sucked off the teat of the taxpayer for their whole existence and repeatedly screwed us all over in the process. When did they ever put their money where there mouth is for the members?
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February 20, 2014 7:39pm
Reid

After being such a know-it-all cock (that got it all wrong) you deserve getting something dished back.

Well Pete, I’m waiting. Dish away. I assume you were talking to me. BTW, it’s not difficult to know more than you, that doesn’t mean I know everything, or think I do. I know to you, it must seem like that, but that’s because of the amount you don’t know Pete, rather than what I do, which is about average but by comparison to you, it must be very intimidating. I’m sorry about that, but until we have Vulcan Mind Meld technology, I can’t really help you.
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February 20, 2014 7:41pm
bereal

Now there is a stupid post.

A fukin very stupid post

“Only a patriotic Kiwi puts his hand into his pocket for $2 mill.”

A very stupid post.

Thankyou deadrightkev you drong.

You fool.
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February 20, 2014 7:52pm
cha

A “requested” intervention huh – like Czechoslovakia in 1968?.

“Russia and deputies of the State Duma are prepared to give all the necessary assistance should the fraternal Ukrainian people ask for it,” Leonid Slutsky said

http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/719868
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February 20, 2014 7:54pm
nasska

A man walked into the local Chamber of Commerce of a small town,
obviously desperate.

Seeing someone at the counter, the stranger asks, “Is there a
criminal lawyer in town?”

“Why yes there is sir”, says the attendant,
“but we haven’t been able to prove it yet!”
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February 20, 2014 8:00pm
Andrei

Did you happen to catch this Cha?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv7qy7jot30
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February 20, 2014 8:02pm
Reid

A “requested” intervention huh – like Czechoslovakia in 1968?.

Depends whether you think it’s a grassroot uprising or yet another Soros special cha.

Frankly these days, anything that defeats the evil ones is fine with me, even if it means Russia gets to invade Ukraine. Again.
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February 20, 2014 8:03pm
cha

the evil ones

Let me guess, the Jews!.
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February 20, 2014 8:19pm
chiz

Reid, a useful idiot.
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February 20, 2014 8:21pm
Reid

Let me guess, the Jews!.

Close. They’re the people to whom Jesus was referring in Revelations 2:9 when he said through John:

I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
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February 20, 2014 8:35pm
Pete George

Garner on Cunliffe:

The ABC Club, I am told, is back. The ABC Club is anyone but Cunliffe, they kept him out of the leadership and went for people like David Shearer who shouldn’t have even been on the front bench really let alone a leader. But they went with Shearer because no one wanted Cunliffe.

The ABC Club is led by people like Trevor Mallard, I haven’t got a huge amount of time for Trevor any more, we’ve had a few scraps. Mallard’s in there, he’s a lifelong member. Annette King as well, it’s pretty fair to say she’s in there. Clayton Cosgrove. There’s a few others as well. Shearer.

And they’re a bit unhappy so they’ve reformed again and are just having a bit of a chat about how poorly performing Mr Cunliffe has been this year.

They’re not going to roll him. They’re just concerned he’s not delivering on his promises.

I’m told that there’s a bit of a go slow. Some of the MPs and the staff have decided well he can lose the election and we’ll rol him straight after the election.

A go slow, that’s what I’m told, they won’t roll him but they’re not working hard for him.

More including full transcript: Garner – Labour MPs to lose the election then roll Cunliffe
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February 20, 2014 8:35pm
Viking2

WOMEN’S REVENGE
‘Cash, check or charge?’ I asked, after folding items the woman wished to purchase.
As she fumbled for her wallet, I noticed a remote control for a television set in her purse.
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February 20, 2014 8:48pm
Viking2

UNDERSTANDING WOMEN
(A MAN’S PERSPECTIVE)
I know I’m not going to understand women.
I’ll never understand how you can take boiling hot wax,
pour it onto your upper thigh, rip the hair out by the
root,
and still be afraid of a spider..
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February 20, 2014 8:50pm
Viking2

CREATION
A man said to his wife one day, ‘I don’t know how you can
be
so stupid and so beautiful all at the same time.
‘The wife responded, ‘Allow me to explain.
God made me beautiful so you would be attracted to me;
God made me stupid so I would be attracted to you!
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February 20, 2014 8:51pm
Viking2

WHO DOES WHAT
A man and his wife were having an argument about who
should brew the coffee each morning.
The wife said, ‘You should do it because you get up
first,
and then we don’t have to wait as long to get our coffee.
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here and
you should do it, because that is your job, and I can
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Wife replies, ‘No, you should do it, and besides, it is
in the Bible that the man should do the coffee.’
Husband replies, ‘I can’t believe that, show me.’
So she fetched the Bible, and opened the New Testament
and showed him at the top of several pages, that it
indeed says … ‘HEBREWS’
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February 20, 2014 8:52pm
Rowan

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/crime/news/article.cfm?c_id=30&objectid=11206128

Helen Milner gets what she deserves, lets hope she never gets out of jail.
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February 20, 2014 8:54pm
RichardX

Reid (14,922 comments) says:
February 20th, 2014 at 10:55 am
Given that definition, can you point to a poll where the Conservatives are trending up?

I probably could if I could be bothered but since I’d be driving google to find a polling company and laboriously tracking all the points since he first began, I simply can’t be bothered and if you want to dispute it, then go ahead and do that yourself.

Nice deflection Reid
PG proves you wrong and so your narrative becomes how poorly UF is doing
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February 20, 2014 9:11pm
cha

The Final Member.

http://youtu.be/sZMaheZ_Iy0
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February 20, 2014 9:19pm
Reid

Nice deflection Reid
PG proves you wrong and so your narrative becomes how poorly UF is doing

My original post with the relevant word bolded.

I think your first two traits are your own personal conclusions as I’m not aware of any polls that asked those particular questions and the important thing, as any pollster will tell is: what’s the trend.

I think you’ll find it’s upward and I also think you’ll find, in stark contrast to Cunliffe, the more people see of Craig, the more they will like him, notwithstanding the media’s and the vested political interest’s increasingly desperate but across the board attempts to paint him as a looney misogynist.

In other words – duh – I didn’t say it was, I said I thought it was, because I hadn’t looked at the data and until I know something for a fact I don’t state it as such.

So there is in fact nothing to back down, nothing to apologise for, and the only idiots who hallucinate there is, are Pete and you, and Pete wouldn’t know reality if it was mugging him, and you seem to hate my guts for some reason which I don’t care about, so forgive me if I ignore your idiotic contributions most of the time, except when you accuse me of something I’m not guilty of. Like now.

See Pete’s problem is he’s got no intuition, because he’s an idiot. So he’s got no gut feel of the political environment, he NEEDS data to tell him what is happening. I don’t and I never have. I can tell you what’s happening in the polls in general terms, simply by following the news. That doesn’t mean I know precisely exactly what every single point change is, duh, it means my intuition is reliable. And my intuition tells me Craig is trending upward and he is. You wait and see. But don’t bother citing a poll that says he’s only got 4 upward points in a row and that means it’s not a trend therefore I’m wrong, that’s Pete’s argument, but what Pete doesn’t know is, I’m talking about future months, that haven’t even been polled yet. You wait for them, then let’s analyse the trend, in say August. Then let’s have this discussion. Diary it, if you give a damn and you’ll have to remind me, because I don’t.
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February 20, 2014 9:28pm
Ryan Sproull

Reid, you are my favourite lunatic.

From me, this is high praise.
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February 20, 2014 9:34pm
Harriet

Harriet (3,612 comments) says:
“……… February 20th, 2014 at 11:14 am
Life begins BEFORE conception as everything needed already exists between a male and a female, as nothing more is added – life is simply passed on between two humans, and when that happens, ‘another’ homosapien is created. All biologists know that. They get taught that at university

I am astounded at the stupidity & ignorance of such a statement but not surprised given its source
The rest of the post is poorly put together pseudo philosophical crap but to actually state that “Life begins BEFORE conception” is mind blowing even without the claim that all biologists know it because they get taught it at university. To conflate birth and ‘creation’ displays willful ignorance and an agenda unsupported by fact…..”

LOL.

You are getting mixed up between ‘life’ and ‘creation’ Richard – all things that a new homosapien will have, ARE ALREADY ALIVE IN IT’S PARENTS TO BE – nothing new is created Richard as the contents of that new homosapien are already living. Life is passed on Richard – not created. Hence live has been created BEFORE conception and is simply passed on.

Please tell us all about the new biological scientific discoveries that are continuously been found Richard that do not already currently exist in Homosapiens DNA Richard!

It’s source is biology Richard. Re-read it. Nothing other than what the father and mother HAS is passed onto the new homosapien. Sure, to unscientific minds like yourself, you may suggest ‘food and water’ via the mother – but that doesn’t change the DNA structure ect that is already present in the new homosapien. Food and water just aids the development.

Biologists know all this Richard. So too do religious people Richard as God CREATED all life.
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