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Kea

Wonder if the Green flakes are researching how todays’ earthquake can be blamed ob Global Warming/Climate Change/Weather?

Steve, apparently it was caused by gay marriage.

“Rabbi Yehuda Levin Blames Washington, DC Earthquake On Gay Marriage”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/24/rabbi-yehuda-levin-earthquake_n_935596.html
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January 20, 2014 6:59pm
Fletch

Kea, but Jesus also clarified or fulfilled laws. Look up the, “you have heard it said…. But I say” verses in Matthew 5.

Also, don’t forget,

“Are you so dull?” he asked. “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them? For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.) ~ Mark 7:18-19

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+7&version=NIV
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January 20, 2014 7:00pm
Pauleastbay

The WASP will be able to predict the next earthquake for you, its got to be good for some fucking thing
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January 20, 2014 7:06pm
Kea

Fletch, yes I am well aware the bible is full of contradictions and can be used as a reference to support any position. Which is another reason why it is useless as a measure of morality.
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January 20, 2014 7:11pm
stephieboy

President Obama stating the rather obvious,

http://www.smh.com.au/world/barack-obama-some-dislike-me-because-im-black-20140120-hv932.html

Especially amongst tea baggers , far right Republicans , bloggers and associated fruit loops both there, here and elsewhere.!
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January 20, 2014 7:13pm
Kea

stephieboy, and some like him because he is black. In fact he would not be POTUS if he were not black.

stephieboy, remind us of why he was awarded his Nobel prize ?
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January 20, 2014 7:20pm
nasska

stephieboy

….””There’s no doubt that there’s some folks who just really dislike me because they don’t like the idea of a black president,” Mr Obama said”…..

And there’s be a lot more who don’t like him because he’d be the most useless bloody tealeaf who has ever managed to stuff up a country.

The whining no-hoper is playing the race card to deflect well deserved blame.
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January 20, 2014 7:22pm
OneTrack

stephieboy – And all the progressives love him because he is black.
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January 20, 2014 7:25pm
MikeG

So according to Farrar, the Minister of the year is also financially illiterate!
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11189319
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January 20, 2014 7:28pm
Kea

nasska, do you know how Mr Obama earned that peace prize ?

It seems strange, because the only election promise he kept was to massively increase the Afghan war. He said he would and indeed he did. He also started numerous new military actions through out Central Asia, Middle East and especially Africa. He makes Bush look like a dope smoking peace freak. In fact if your not, white or a Jew, you are probably on his list.
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January 20, 2014 7:29pm
nasska

Kea

He has devalued the Nobel prize for all time. From now on it has the same gravitas as a voucher for a Happy Meal awarded for a win at the “Special” Games.
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January 20, 2014 7:37pm
Colville

Cheers nasska
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January 20, 2014 7:38pm
Johnboy

Since I am from Barcelona and my laptop shit itself several nights ago I am pleased to see that Kea and nasska and PEB are very busy! 🙂
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January 20, 2014 7:45pm
Kea

nasska, I loved how the EU got a Nobel Prize as Europe burned and rioted all around them.

Interestingly the country that country that awarded the prize rejected membership of the EU.

The prize is pure bullshit and politics and means nothing.
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January 20, 2014 7:58pm
All_on_Red

Stephie
Obamas approval rating ain’t that hot. Over 50% don’t like him.
Did you know that in the Election that Obama got 93% of the black vote? And look what it’s got them.lol.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/gallup-daily-obama-job-approval.aspx
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January 20, 2014 7:59pm
Longknives

Let me get this right- Obama reckons his popularity is waning simply because he is black? Nothing to do with his political failings, the Benghazi incident etc etc ?
Christ the guy is fucking deluded. Mind you- he has that vile racist woman in his ear every night, and she is just consumed by hatred for everything except pretty frocks and parties with Beyonce
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11189148

Makes me angry to think that this repulsive woman who sat sneering through a 911 flag folding ceremony is in the Whitehouse…

I think I need some humour to cheer me up. Nasska- How far away are the jokes man?
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January 20, 2014 7:59pm
nasska

Amongst the female staff of the Auckland Council, Len is known as ‘The Quaker’.

Not because of the state he leaves them in after sex but because his oats are instant.
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January 20, 2014 8:00pm
Longknives

Aaah- that’s better…
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January 20, 2014 8:01pm
Kea

Obama needs to give the world another first. The first president to hang for war crimes and treason.
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January 20, 2014 8:03pm
Johnboy

Thank God Hubbard never got to be the Mayor then nasska! 🙂
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January 20, 2014 8:03pm
All_on_Red

” he has that vile racist woman in his ear every night”

Oprah?
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January 20, 2014 8:04pm
Johnboy

His dried up cherrys may have been sucked back into life! 🙂
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January 20, 2014 8:05pm
Kea

stephieboy, must be busy writing up that list of reasons why Obama got a Nobel Prize.

Reasons that don’t involve skin colour. Because that offends stephieboy’s sensibilities. 🙂
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January 20, 2014 8:06pm
Johnboy

Stephie thinks I’m a racist Kea. Silly fool. All my flock are black sheep! 🙂
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January 20, 2014 8:09pm
stigie

Where is Stiffieboy on the reasons Obama got a Noble Prize ?
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January 20, 2014 8:13pm
Kea

“The committee said it attached special importance to Obama’s vision of, and work for, a world without nuclear weapons.”

LOL 🙂

U.S. nuclear weapon plans to cost $355 billion over a decade: CBO report

The Obama administration’s plans for the U.S. nuclear weapons complex, including modernization of bombs, delivery systems and laboratories, will cost the country about $355 billion over the next decade, the Congressional Budget Office said on Friday.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/20/us-usa-nuclear-arms-idUSBRE9BJ1FH20131220
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January 20, 2014 8:13pm
Johnboy

It’s a new Black Dawn… 🙂 arising over the fraught question of nuclear weapons and the use of! 🙂
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January 20, 2014 8:18pm
Kea

Johnboy, are you racist towards his white half or his black half ?
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January 20, 2014 8:18pm
Johnboy

I’m prepared to shut my eyes, turn the light out and shag anything Kea! 🙂
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January 20, 2014 8:21pm
Kea

Johnboy, I prefer something more than white bread myself and I want to see what I am eating 😉
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January 20, 2014 8:24pm
Fletch

Makes me angry to think that this repulsive woman who sat sneering through a 911 flag folding ceremony is in the Whitehouse…

They may be splitting up, according to some.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2541580/Is-Obama-marriage-rocks-Ugly-fights-selfie-Even-Presidential-affair-Astonishing-claims-emerge.html
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January 20, 2014 8:26pm
nasska

Kea’s baby photo (warning….don’t open if nudity offends). 🙂

Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/j6ko1thgt6yne1n/Kea%203.jpg
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January 20, 2014 8:26pm
Johnboy

When your as old as I am Kea it’s easier to gum white bread rather than try to chew the multigrain stuff! 🙂
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January 20, 2014 8:27pm
Fletch

Obama is probably the only subject Kea and I agree on…lol
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January 20, 2014 8:27pm
Kea

Fletch, that is simply untrue. You just lack my bible knowledge 😉
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January 20, 2014 8:28pm
stigie

So Johnboy and Kea like to split dark oak then ?
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January 20, 2014 8:29pm
Kea

“Kea’s baby photo ”

nasska, looks like its eggs for breakfast.
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January 20, 2014 8:30pm
Kea

stigie , hell yes ! You won’t find many blonde hairs caught up in my vacuum cleaner 🙂
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January 20, 2014 8:32pm
Johnboy

All the wood I ever split was pink inside stigie. 🙂
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January 20, 2014 8:32pm
cha

You know what they say about pictures….

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeYpIazCcAASACT.jpg:large
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January 20, 2014 8:35pm
Johnboy

Somethings wrong here tonight…..Minus is absent! 🙂
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January 20, 2014 8:40pm
Kea

cha, that clearly shows the states that stopped segregation were over run by blacks, just as the anti-segregation people warned.
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January 20, 2014 8:40pm
Kea

“Somethings wrong here tonight…..Minus is absent! ”

What is Minus ?
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January 20, 2014 8:41pm
Johnboy

Even Japper’s wish they wus born in Dixie! 🙂

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1IQkhia3jM
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January 20, 2014 8:43pm
stigie

Who’s Minus Johnboy ?
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January 20, 2014 8:43pm
Johnboy

He is Johnboy’s downtick monster Kea. You’ve been absent while he as been active! 🙂
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January 20, 2014 8:44pm
stigie

Why the 5 min countdown now. Does anybody know ?
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January 20, 2014 8:46pm
Johnboy

What countdown stigie?
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January 20, 2014 8:50pm
nasska

The Downtick Monster is taking his toll on JB’s confidence….now he hesitates to walk past nightclubs with darkened doorways across the road from them. 🙂
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January 20, 2014 8:50pm
Kea

He is Johnboy’s downtick monster Kea.

Johnboy, you are welcome to borrow one of my lurking cowards. There are plenty to go around 🙂

Where is bereal and LRC now days ? Maybe they have swapped hobbies and bereal is prancing around the water front in his running gear while LRC is passed out on the couch.
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January 20, 2014 8:50pm
Johnboy

I’ve taken to carrying two shotguns and a Glock recently nasska! 🙂
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January 20, 2014 8:52pm
Johnboy

I’m popping up to Ekatahuna next month for the February wife swapping festival….what should I carry? 🙂
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January 20, 2014 8:54pm
Pauleastbay

Jb you can actually get down ticked and not even be on here its very clever how they do it.

I believe its Judith myself behind the twitches and ticks and sheer insanity I believe she is very vindictive as well
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January 20, 2014 8:55pm
nasska

A four leafed clover JB. 🙂
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January 20, 2014 8:56pm
Johnboy

I thought a bottle of wine should be adequate? 🙂
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January 20, 2014 8:56pm
Kea

Johnboy, the shotty is only good for young girls I hear and even then you have to surprise them. They can’t know what’s coming !
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January 20, 2014 8:56pm
Johnboy

PEB. You cad!

I’ve always thought Judith was a very sexy woman….just like Penny! 🙂
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January 20, 2014 8:57pm
Kea

I can get down ticked for saying “babies are cute” LOL 🙂
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January 20, 2014 8:58pm
Johnboy

You can banned for eight weeks for saying not much else Kea!!!! 🙂
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January 20, 2014 8:59pm
Kea

Speaking of sexy women, where is that gorgeous passionate crazy god bothering Lucy ?
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January 20, 2014 8:59pm
nasska

Check what I cop for suggesting that Colin Craig is mortal. 🙂
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January 20, 2014 9:01pm
Johnboy

Looking after her poor old Mum Kea…..be nice!
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January 20, 2014 9:02pm
Johnboy

Never pick on a guy that is heavily into smack nasska!
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January 20, 2014 9:03pm
Kea

Johnboy, she is a good girl.

I guess “they” have finally got UglyTruth by now ? 🙂
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January 20, 2014 9:05pm
Johnboy

Truth will out. Ugly or otherwise! 🙂
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January 20, 2014 9:07pm
Johnboy

When I was a young chap I can remember catching the Hutt train and being abused by all those evil Catholic girls in their black and white Saint Mary’s uniforms catching the Porirua train. Then they brought out the Saint Trinians movies! 🙂
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January 20, 2014 9:12pm
stigie

Well fuck me. i am the only one here with no demerits.
Might have to start getting abusive like Reddy !!~
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January 20, 2014 9:14pm
Johnboy

Apologist, prog, recividist, backslider, etc, etc should help get you started stigie! 🙂
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January 20, 2014 9:19pm
Kea

stigie, I called a few people who worship a slave dealing, mass murdering, baby killer, a few names and was banned for a month !

The time before that for simply pointing out a self evident truth and another time for not hating men enough. Also got demerits for not loving Obama and communists as much as I should.

LOL 🙂
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January 20, 2014 9:19pm
Johnboy

I’ve only been banned three times. But I love Obama! 🙂
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January 20, 2014 9:21pm
Kea

Johnboy, I hope Red is happy “Twittering” because that is where the really important people go to debate. You know, people like tweeny girls and commercial pop culture identities.
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January 20, 2014 9:22pm
Johnboy

And Judith Collins Kea! 🙂
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January 20, 2014 9:23pm
Kea

But nothing beats this epic melt down folks from the resident sanctimonious prig:

http://yournz.org/2013/11/09/kea-on-kiwiblog-rape-culture-and-abuse/

LOL 🙂

This takes being a pathetic cry baby to an art form !
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January 20, 2014 9:26pm
Johnboy

You do tend to take things far too seriously at times Kea! 🙂
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January 20, 2014 9:29pm
Kea

Shut up Johnboy, I am trying to fix my scroll button after searching for the end of PG’s melt down.
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January 20, 2014 9:30pm
Johnboy

Everything we ever achieve here is just a tiny victory Kea and all our loss’s are as naught. Move on as Helen once said! 🙂
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January 20, 2014 9:33pm
stephieboy

Kea (9,626 comments) says:
January 20th, 2014 at 8:03 pm

Obama needs to give the world another first. The first president to hang for war crimes and treason.

What war crimes and what treason exactly other than what rightwing paranoid nutbars and bloggers claim.?

I can see there are still sour and sore losers post 14/11 /12.
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January 20, 2014 9:33pm
Kea

Johnboy, you won’t see me running to David with emails and breathless Twitters, demanding “something be done” LOL 🙂
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January 20, 2014 9:35pm
Johnboy

Even if Obama was convicted it would be 30 years before execution and at least 15 minutes before the drugs kicked in! 🙂
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January 20, 2014 9:36pm
Johnboy

I gave you a downtrou for that Kea. Get over it. You are better than that!
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January 20, 2014 9:38pm
Kea

Johnboy, maybe you should tell on me ?
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January 20, 2014 9:39pm
Kea

stephieboy, I am happy to answer your questions about Mr Obama.

But only when you answer my question about why he got a Nobel Prize ?
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January 20, 2014 9:45pm
Johnboy

Not at all Kea and I have to piss off and have a shower now so I can resume my real life as a captain of industry tomorrow morning.

I can’t chat anymore tonight but you really have to get over yourself and start contributing like you know you can mate! 🙂
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January 20, 2014 9:45pm
Kea

night Johnboy 🙂
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January 20, 2014 9:47pm
stephieboy

Kea this is a good place to begin,

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jason-sattler/why-president-obama-deser_b_3896183.html

Now you answer mine.

Specifically what war crimes and what treason has Obama committed before you retire for the night with your warm egg milk.?
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January 20, 2014 9:56pm
Kea

I said an answer not an excuse.

He as attacked and invaded numerous countries that have committed no wrong against America. The only common factor is they are Muslim and may contain people unsympathetic to Israel. He has actively been involved in destabilising numerous countries, around Israel, that have all turned into disasters for the people.

The only country that has benefited from is reign of terror has been Israel. He was bought and paid for by jewish money and it is them he serves. One of his first jobs was to bail out jewish owned financial institutions, while launching war against the muslim world.

In spite of America being bankrupt and unable to care for its own people, he continues spending trillions on killing people Israel does not like and still has enough to donate billions to Israel.

This needs updating. It has become worse. Much.

http://stpeteforpeace.org/factsheets/obama.html
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January 20, 2014 10:05pm
publicwatchdog

Got any considered opinions on this point Kiwibloggers?

(Given that NZ is perceived to be ‘the least corrupt country in the world’ – sort of thing? 🙂
_________________________________________________________________________________________

EVIDENCE Attorney-General Chris Finlayson voted in favour of the New Zealand International Convention Centre Bill
— Third Reading 12 November 2013

How is this not a significant ‘conflict of interest’ for NZ Attorney-General Chris Finlayson?

Even worse that it was a ‘personal’ vote?

NZ Attorney-General Chris Finlayson voted in favour of the NZ International Convention Centre Bill (Third Reading). yet under s.106 of the NZ Crimes Act 1961,

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/DLM328783.htm

106 Restrictions on prosecution

(1)No one shall be prosecuted for an offence against any of the provisions of sections 100, 101, 104, 105, 105A,105B, 105C, and 105D without the leave of the Attorney-General, who before giving leave may make such inquiries as he or she thinks fit.

(It is s.105(1) of the Crimes Act 1961, that a private prosecution of Auckland Mayor Len Brown was received by the Auckland District Court on !5 January 2014.)
_________________________________________________________________________________________________

http://www.parliament.nz/en-nz/pb/debates/debates/50HansD_20131112_00000024/new-zealand-international-convention-centre-bill-—-third

New Zealand International Convention Centre Bill — Third Reading

[Sitting date: 12 November 2013. Volume:694;Page:14549. Text is incorporated into the Bound Volume.]

New Zealand International Convention Centre Bill

A personal vote was called for on the question, That the New Zealand International Convention Centre Bill be now read a third time.

Ayes 61

Adams (P) Dunne (P) Key (P) Simpson (P)
Ardern S (P) English (P) King C Smith (P)
Auchinvole (P) Finlayson Lee (P) Tisch (P)
Bakshi (P) Foss (P) Lotu-Iiga (P) Tolley (P)
Banks (P) Foster-Bell Macindoe Tremain (P)
Barry (P) Goldsmith (P) McClay (P) Upston (P)
Bennett D Goodhew (P) McCully (P) Wagner
Bennett P (P) Groser (P) McKelvie (P) Wilkinson (P)
Borrows (P) Guy (P) Mitchell Williamson
Bridges (P) Hauiti (P) Ngaro (P) Woodhouse
Brownlee (P) Hayes (P) O’Connor S (P) Yang (P)
Calder (P) Heatley (P) Parata (P) Young (P)
Carter (P) Henare Roy (P)
Coleman (P) Hutchison (P) Ryall (P)
Collins (P) Joyce (P) Sabin (P) Teller:
Dean (P) Kaye (P) Shanks (P) Ross

Noes 59
Ardern J (P) Harawira (P) Moroney Street (P)
Browning (P) Hipkins (P) Norman (P) Tirikatene (P)
Clark (P) Horan (P) O’Connor D (P) Turei
Clendon (P) Hughes O’Rourke (P) Turia (P)
Cosgrove (P) Huo (P) Parker (P) Twyford (P)
Cunliffe (P) Jones (P) Peters (P) Walker (P)
Curran King A Prasad (P) Wall (P)
Delahunty Lees-Galloway (P) Prosser Whaitiri
Dyson Little Robertson G (P) Williams
Faafoi Logie (P) Robertson R (P) Woods (P)
Fenton Lole-Taylor Roche
Flavell Mackey Sage (P)
Genter (P) Mahuta (P) Sharples (P)
Goff (P) Mallard (P) Shearer (P)
Graham (P) Martin Sio (P) Teller:
Hague (P) Mathers (P) Stewart Beaumont

Bill read a third time.

_____________________________________________________l

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/DLM328753.html

105 Corruption and bribery of official

(1)Every official is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 7 years who, whether within New Zealand or elsewhere, corruptly accepts or obtains, or agrees or offers to accept or attempts to obtain, any bribe for himself or herself or any other person in respect of any act done or omitted, or to be done or omitted, by him or her in his or her official capacity.

(2)Every one is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 7 years who corruptly gives or offers or agrees to give any bribe to any person with intent to influence any official in respect of any act or omission by him or her in his or her official capacity.

Compare: Criminal Code (1954) s 102 (Canada)
Section 105(2): amended, on 3 May 2001, by section 7 of the Crimes (Bribery of Foreign Public Officials) Amendment Act 2001 (2001 No 28).
_______________________________________________________________________________________________

Kind regards,

Penny Bright
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January 20, 2014 10:21pm
stephieboy

Kea,
Sorry old boy but your link with but one example is wrong about the war in Libya,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_Libya

And but one more has declined to obey his Israeli paymasters re intervention in Syria.

Am so sorry he has not followed those other Israel Toadies Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield into another Iraq.

Reign of Terror.?? Your off your Tree.!

What Billions donated to Israel. ? Again specifics please.

Name one country he has gone in and conquered and annexed ,adding to the the US Empire.?

Why do you hate Jews so much and blame them for every conceivable wrong in the world Today.?

You obviously need something much stronger than your egg milk.!
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January 20, 2014 10:24pm
Kea

I do not hate Jews and of all the violent desert cults it is my favourite. Muslims my least favourite. Jews are at the forefront of liberal thought and even half Israelis are now atheists.

Glad you raised Syria. Obama wanted to attack even though his traditional allies and the international community was against him. Even his own people did not support him.

His reasons were a lie. Numerous investigations indicated the Obama backed rebels used the gas. He is feeding them hundreds of millions of dollars, and that is just what is openly declared. Do you really believed Assad invited international inspectors and the moment they arrived launched a massive gas attach on civilians nearby ? Get real.

His goal is to destabilise a country next to Israel and find an excuse to launch strikes against key military infrastructure.

The prick should hang.
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January 20, 2014 10:33pm
Kea

“What Billions donated to Israel. ? Again specifics please.”

Tell me your fucking joking !

It is no secret. Google it.

The rich country of Israel is the biggest recipient of US aid in the world. It gets billions. And it gets it as a lump sum each year, not fed out slowly, like others do. On top of that is billions more in military aid.

And that is just what is openly declared in public budgets. You clearly have no real interest in the topic beyond mindlessly defending jews and a black president, while casting racist smears at those who hold them to account.
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January 20, 2014 10:38pm
Kea

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U.S. Financial Aid To Israel: Figures, Facts, and Impact
Summary
Benefits to Israel of U.S. Aid
Since 1949 (As of November 1, 1997)

Foreign Aid Grants and Loans
$74,157,600,000

Other U.S. Aid (12.2% of Foreign Aid)
$9,047,227,200

Interest to Israel from Advanced Payments
$1,650,000,000

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

Total Benefits per Israeli
$14,630

Cost to U.S. Taxpayers of U.S.
Aid to Israel

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

Interest Costs Borne by U.S.
$49,936,680,000

Total Cost to U.S. Taxpayers
$134,791,507,200

Total Taxpayer Cost per Israeli
$23,240

http://www.wrmea.org/congress-and-us-aid-to-israel/494-congress-a-us-aid-to-israel/9748-u-s-financial-aid-to-israel-figures-facts-and-impact.html

Israel Pushes for Boost in U.S. Aid to More Than $3B a Year

Read more: http://forward.com/articles/184017/israel-pushes-for-boost-in-us-aid-to-more-than-b/?p=all#ixzz2qvk2xqy5
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January 20, 2014 10:42pm
stephieboy

Google it.?
The biggest lame cop out for one who can’t and refuses to marshal rational and reasoned argument and debate .
It will more than 90% likely lead you to most some of the Anti Jewish hate sites like Stormfront, Zionist Crime factory,Resne , Bible believers org etc, etc.
Which is your pick, favourite.?
As far as am aware Israel is not the recipient of billions of dollars of hand outs.
Google it again. ?
The only account you have is an apparent loathing and detestation of a black President and Jews .!
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January 20, 2014 10:50pm
Kea

The Staggering Cost of Israel
to Americans
rael has a population of approximately 7.7 million, or a million fewer than the state of New Jersey. It is among the world’s most affluent nations, with a per capita income similar to that of the European Union.[1] Israel’s unemployment rate of 6.3% is much better than America’s 8.2%,[2] and Israel’s net trade, earnings, and payments is ranked 146th in the world while the US sits at a dismal 193rd.[3]

Yet, Israel receives more of America’s foreign aid budget than any other nation.[4] The US has, in fact, given more aid to Israel than it has to all the countries of sub-Saharan Africa, Latin America, and the Caribbean combined—which have a total population of over a billion people.[5]

And foreign aid is just one component of the staggering cost of our alliance with Israel.

Given the tremendous costs, it is critical to examine why we lavish so much aid on Israel, and whether it is worth Americans’ hard-earned tax dollars. But first, let’s take a look at what our alliance with Israel truly costs.

….And if, as many experts believe, the US would not have invaded Iraq without intense and sustained pressure from Washington insiders who advocate actively on behalf of Israel,[27] this adds yet another dimension of staggering cost to the equation: “hundreds of billions of dollars, 4,000-plus U.S. and allied fatalities, untold tens of thousands of Iraqi deaths, and many thousands of other US, allied, and Iraqi casualties,” according to retired US foreign service officer Shirl McArthur.[28]

Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz and Harvard professor Linda Bilmes put the cost of the Iraq War at over $3 trillion, and incalculably more if you take into account the opportunity costs of the resources spent on this unproductive war. For example, higher oil prices due to the war have had a devastating impact on America’s economy, and so have the surging federal debt and the servicing of that debt. Without the war, the 2008 financial crisis almost certainly would not have been as severe, and the Afghanistan war most likely would have been shorter, cheaper, and more effective.[29]

http://ifamericansknew.org/stats/cost.html

[note all the references at the end of the linked article. Knock yourself out]
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January 20, 2014 10:50pm
Kea

It will more than 90% likely lead you to most of the Anti Jewish hate sites like Stormfront, Zionist Crime factory,Resne , Bible believers org etc, etc.

Which is your pick, favourite.?As far as ma ware Israel is not the recipient of billions of dollars of hand outs.
Google it again. ?
The only account you have is an apparent loathing and detestation of a black President and Jews .!

And right there is where your credibility goes down the drain. First for lying and secondly for pulling the anti Jewish nazi crap to avoid normal accountability.

Stormfront my arse…..

The Jerusalem Post

US House spending bill includes full $3.1 billion for Israel

http://www.jpost.com/International/House-spending-bill-includes-full-31-billion-for-Israel-338398

The Jewish Daily Forward

Israel Pushes for Boost in U.S. Aid to More Than $3B a Year

Read more: http://forward.com/articles/184017/israel-pushes-for-boost-in-us-aid-to-more-than-b/?p=all#ixzz2qvnRMKBF
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January 20, 2014 10:57pm
stephieboy

Am sorry again but the myth of Israel dependence on US Foreign Aid is covered here,

http://stefanmikarlsson.blogspot.co.nz/2014/01/the-myth-of-israeli-dependence-of-us-aid.html
Here also,

http://www.danielpipes.org/604/the-36-billion-bargain-strategy-and-politics-in-us
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January 20, 2014 11:03pm
stephieboy

More here again,

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2010/01/12/aid-to-israel-the-story-in-numbers/

and do note especially ,

“Bottom line: U.S. aid to Israel has plummeted in the past two decades by nearly every reasonable measure. And anyone who thinks the Israel lobby is bilking American taxpayers out of a false and outdated sentimentality for Israel’s plight is not paying attention to the numbers. That kind of American generosity ended a while ago.”
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January 20, 2014 11:09pm
Kea

So you lied then when you claimed you did not know of any money being given to Israel.

Glad to hear the Israelis don’t need the money, because millions of poor and desperate Americans do need that money.
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