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January 15, 2014 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 15 January 2014

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freemark

I’ve kept out of the cyclists debate, always try to be considerate andf non judgemental.. even at the idiots in lycra riding circuits around the small Coromandel spot where I holidayed. Not 20 minutes ago however (and after I carefully waited for 20 seconds for a cyclist to go past before I opened the door to pop into a dairy) this happened: Same cyclist, I catch him up further along Dominion Rd at a set of lights with 2 straight thru lanes. He sits in the middle of the lane, light turns green, he ambles off..again in the middle of the lane, plenty of room to pull left and allow cars past. Nope, not him. I eventually go past, polite-fully suggest through the window that he could keep left. The swearing, invective, abuse etc he unleashed surprised then pissed me off. So I forced him off the road, hope he broke his fucking bike, and his leg. Cunt was a pom, no doubt Gween supporter as well. I’ll look for him again tomorrow…
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January 15, 2014 4:39pm
Yogibear

Lucia Maria – judging by the turning vehicle, the bike is going no more than 40km/h, and as for your point about reaction time, if they were a car, with a van doing that, there would have been a collision.

A decent roadie will comfortably cycle on the flat in the stream of 50km/h traffic – deal with it.

The fault is entirely with the van.

But thats the issue really. There are 3 possible explanations for this incident:
– the van was unsighted at a critical point when looking left and right and missed the cyclist behind the turning vehicle
– the van driver completely misjudged the cyclist’s speed, but how is that the cyclist’s problem?
– the van driver was to total asshole who took the size matters approach.

I’d go with either one of the first 2 explanations as in the vast majority of close calls I’ve had on the bike, when I’ve reflected on the incident, its been a genuine mistake by the driver, or me.

The niggling aggro us vs them bullshit, mixed with a holier than thou attitude of tit for tat accusations about cyclists and car drivers not following the road rules (who here hasn’t gone over 100km/h in the car?) glosses over a serious issue which is our collective lack of tolerance and awareness of others is actually putting lives at risk.
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January 15, 2014 4:40pm
Yogibear

Freemark

Firstly, cheers for being considerate. Of all the dangers on the road, a good dooring gives me the shits more than anything (in fact its my only ever ACC claim from cycling with 4 broken ribs, a broken helmet – lets not go there on the helmet debate – and half the skin missing from left thigh through to shoulder).

But as for the idiot you encountered…….

Chances are guy will be an asshole off the bike when he gets into the car.

He’ll push in front of you at the bar.

He will secretly dump his non-biodegradable rubbish into his neighbours bin rather than sully his own

He’ll whine incessantly about how hot it is when he sits next to you at the beach at your small Coromandel spot.

Why label him a cyclist?

He’s just an asshole who happened to be on a bike when you had the misfortune to see him.
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January 15, 2014 4:52pm
freemark

@ Yogibear.
Good comment, you forgot to say Gween asshole though.
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January 15, 2014 4:56pm
Yogibear

@Freemark

Quite right – though I thought I had it partially covered by the covert dumping of non-biodegradables with the neighbours.

The Gween equivalent of farting and blaming it on someone else.
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January 15, 2014 4:59pm
PhilP

Re Len Brown resigning (not).
The longer the serial tosser stays around the better I say.
Firstly, he is very much aligned with the NZLP which could ultimately damage them.
Secondly, it will be good news for National and supply plenty of ammunition/fodder leading up to the election.
So I say “stick around Len” it won’t be helpful to your party and could play into Nationals hand.
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January 15, 2014 5:20pm
stigie

@PhilP ” Thats right “
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January 15, 2014 5:24pm
Gulag1917

More women turning off politics after Julia Gillard was badly treated
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/more-women-turning-off-politics-after-julia-gillard-was-badly-treated/story-fnii5yv7-1226801892247
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January 15, 2014 6:21pm
Lucia Maria

James,

Maybe the cyclist was there all along, but I wasn’t in a car – I was a cyclist as well. Was he looking out for me? Any cyclist going at high speed needs to take other much slower cyclists into consideration when they are biking. Not all of us can do 50kph as Yoza alleges cyclists can.
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January 15, 2014 6:30pm
Manolo

Offense is taken: http://news.yahoo.com/us-slams-reported-israeli-criticism-kerry-plan-39-161444208.html
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January 15, 2014 6:33pm
Lucia Maria

Sorry, that was Yogibear that said cyclists can do 50, not Yoza. That’s damn fast for the cycle lane. Even 40 is too fast. There should be a speed limit for cyclists, unless they are on a race track.
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January 15, 2014 6:35pm
Jack5

The Justice System shows its PC hand again.

The race/nationality of a refugee/immigrant has been suppressed and he has avoided jail on charges after he “… grabbed, groped and licked female joggers on a popular running route in Christchurch…”

The female judge said the “misnomer of Port Hills Groper” had vilified the immigrant in relation to his offending. She restricted publication of his ethnicity and religion, but said media could say he was of “Middle Eastern extraction”.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11186746
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January 15, 2014 7:13pm
Harriet

“……Andrei do you really think the State has no business intervening when a mother assaults all four of her children, including with a jandal and a belt?….”

For about 200yrs the State never did.

When the schools stopped physical punishment they still didn’t.

I can’t see after 200yrs how the state can now come along and say ‘wrong’ – especially amongst the current ruins of society – Youth violence. Youth rape.

There is nothing wrong with physical discipline.

Jailing people is physical discipline – and most people jailed are in fear of physical violence. Most jailed people become victims of physical violence.

Quite simply………the hypocritical State can go and get fucked on the matter – the judges & PM included! 😎
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January 15, 2014 7:17pm
nasska

Answers please on the back of a postcard. 🙂

Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/gh62bsyikkcaied/Lifesbigquestion.png
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January 15, 2014 7:55pm
nasska

Two prostitutes were riding around town with a sign on top of
their car which said:

“TWO PROSTITUTES — $50.00.”

A policeman, seeing the sign, stopped them and told them they’d
either have to remove the sign or go to jail.

Just at that time, another car passed with a sign saying:

“JESUS SAVES.”

One of the girls asked the cop, “How come you don’t stop them?!”

“Well, that’s a little different,” the cop smiled. “Their sign
pertains to religion.”

So the two ladies of the night frowned as they took their sign
down and drove off.

The following day found the same cop in the area when he noticed
the two ladies driving around with a large sign on their car
again.

Figuring he had an easy arrest, he began to catch up with them
when he noticed the new sign which now read:

“TWO FALLEN ANGELS SEEKING PETER $50.00.”
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January 15, 2014 8:03pm
Johnboy

I’ve had a chat to Mr. Chan nasska and he can supply silk underwear to whatever your measurements so you won’t have to worry about the wool wedding dress being next to your skin!…… Get back darling! 🙂
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January 15, 2014 8:09pm
nasska

Silk black singlets? 🙂
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January 15, 2014 8:15pm
Johnboy

What size silk shorts nasska. Do you need a larger than normal pocket? 🙂
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January 15, 2014 8:17pm
nasska

Slightly larger & reinforced thanks JB. 🙂
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January 15, 2014 8:20pm
Johnboy

I somehow expected you would say that Bigboy!!!! 🙂
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January 15, 2014 8:21pm
stigie

Silk for the flower girls to Johnboy or is just for Nasska ?
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January 15, 2014 8:35pm
Johnboy

As long as you have a crotchless pair stigie! 🙂
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January 15, 2014 8:38pm
Chuck Bird

@Jack5

What religion do you think the groper was?
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January 15, 2014 8:40pm
nasska

He’s getting ahead of himself stigie….we’re still waiting for the engagement ring.

After I get it valued we’ll worry about the undies. 🙂
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January 15, 2014 8:42pm
Johnboy

What sort of a Yorkshireman do you think I am nasska?

It’s pure 3 carat gold lad! 🙂
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January 15, 2014 8:47pm
stigie

Johnboy is trying to push it along a bit Nasska, just in case you say NO.

I can understand where he is coming from.
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January 15, 2014 8:48pm
edhunter

So it doesn’t matter what form of the game the ‘Blackcaps’ play the NZ public are staying away in droves, doesn’t bode well for the world cup
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January 15, 2014 9:38pm
Johnboy

NZ Cricket should change their names to “The Soft Little Whitey Arse Boys” till they win a series.

Then the useless bastards would have something to fight for! 🙂
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January 15, 2014 9:45pm
edhunter

soft little white boys, crutchless knickers, cricket bats.. you went to boarding school I take it
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January 15, 2014 9:51pm
Rowan

Awesome closing performance from Luke Ronchi who came in at a difficult time and steered NZ to victory, 51 n.o. of 28 is pretty impressive stuff.
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January 15, 2014 10:13pm
publicwatchdog

FYI Kiwibloggers

Documents have been filed today in the Auckland District Court for the private prosecution of Auckland Mayor Len Brown, by NZ Private Prosecution Services Ltd (‘agent’ Graham McCready).

For a private prosecution to be successful, a District Court Judge needs to consider the ‘public interest’.

‘Public interest’ requires a PUBLIC FUSS:

Media coverage to date……………….

Private prosecution accuses Len Brown of taking bribes
TVNZ – ‎4 hours ago‎
A private prosecution that accuses Auckland Mayor Len Brown of accepting bribes has been officially lodged in the Auckland District Court this afternoon. Private prosecutor Graham McCready alleges Mr Brown accepted bribes for himself and his wife in the …

Brown private prosecution papers filed
New Zealand Herald – ‎4 hours ago‎
Charging documents for the private prosecution against embattled Auckland Mayor Len Brown have now been delivered to the city’s district court. They prosecution, laid by retired Wellington accountant Graham McCready, alleges Mr Brown broke the law in …
Court papers to be filed against Auckland Mayor Len Brown in National Business Review (subscription) – ‎11 hours ago‎

Papers to be filed in an Auckland court today allege Auckland mayor Len Brown broke the law by not declaring free hotel rooms and upgrades. Retired Wellington Accountant Graham McCready is taking a private prosecution against Mr Brown under section …

Private prosecution against Len Brown to be lodged
TVNZ – ‎12 hours ago‎
A private prosecution against Auckland Mayor Len Brown will be officially lodged in court today. Private prosecutor Graham McCready says he will today file charging documents alleging Mr Brown broke the law by not declaring free hotel rooms. The retired …

Court papers to be filed against Len Brown
Stuff.co.nz – ‎12 hours ago‎
Papers alleging Auckland mayor Len Brown broke the law by not declaring free hotel rooms will be filed with an Auckland court today. Retired Wellington accountant Graham McCready will bring a private prosecution against the second-term mayor alleging …

mayor faces new date: in court
New Zealand Herald – ‎12 hours ago‎
A private prosecution will be brought today against Auckland’s embattled Mayor Len Brown, alleging he broke the law in not declaring hotel freebies from SkyCity. Two charging documents sent to Auckland District Court by retired Wellington accountant …

Private prosecution filed against mayor
Radio New Zealand – ‎2 hours ago‎
Papers have been filed in the Auckland District Court taking a private prosecution against mayor Len Brown. Len Brown. Photo: RNZ. Revelations in October last year of an extra-marital affair brought Mr Brown’s spending under scrutiny and the Auckland …

High hopes for Brown private prosecution
3News NZ – ‎2 hours ago‎
Auckland Mayor Len Brown could face a trial after a private prosecution was filed this afternoon. The Mayor couldn’t be reached for comment today, but Graham McCready, who successfully brought a prosecution against John Banks last year, alleges Brown …

Private prosecution filed against Len Brown
Newstalk ZB – ‎4 hours ago‎
He believes Len Brown supported the SkyCity Convention Centre deal after receiving freebies and room upgrades from its hotel. Mr McReady says Len Brown didn’t disclose the gifts and then changed his position to support the SkyCity Convention Centre …

Potential Len Brown litigation a long way off
Newstalk ZB – ‎7 hours ago‎
There’s still a fair amount of paperwork to be done before Len Brown faces the prospect of defending a corruption charge. Serial litigator Graham McCready is filing a private prosecution against the Auckland mayor, alleging he was corrupt in supporting the …

Former accountant to prosecute Len Brown
The Dominion Post – ‎7 hours ago‎
Papers alleging Auckland mayor Len Brown broke the law by not declaring free hotel rooms have been filed at the Auckland District Court. Retired Wellington accountant Graham McCready will bring a private prosecution against the second-term mayor …

Len Brown faces corruption allegation
NZ City – ‎8 hours ago‎
Embattled Auckland Mayor Len Brown will have another problem to contend with today when a former accountant files papers against him alleging corruption. Graham McCready says he’ll file a private prosecution against Mr Brown in the Auckland District …

McCready going after Len Brown
The Farming Show – ‎10 hours ago‎
It’s the handiwork of Graham McCready – the man responsible for instigating a raft of private prosecutions, most notably against ACT MP John Banks. Mr McCready says two charging documents alleging bribery and corruption will be filed on his behalf in the …

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I predict there will be more – FAR MORE to come on this story …….

Kind regards,

Penny Bright
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