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Manolo

US PC madness: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/12/24/Huelskamp-wins-Members-of-Congress-can-now-say-Merry-Christmas-without-ethics-violation
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December 26, 2013 8:14am
Mobile Michael

Thank God that Christmas is 364 days away. The kids love it but they just get to open the presents and play all day.
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December 26, 2013 8:15am
Akaroa

I see the ol’ Auckland City mission has had a few mentions in recent posts.

I drive past there every day – sometimes several times.

The crowds!…… The crowds!……..Spilling into the road and stretching along the pavement!! …….With outstretched hands, bags and boxes all ready for the charitable largesse being handed out!

So very, very sad!

This country must be in a really bad way, eh?

(Oh! I forgot to precede this comment with ‘Heavy Sarcasm Warning!!)
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December 26, 2013 8:25am
Manolo

A monster and murderer revered: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10537651/In-China-Chairman-Mao-still-bigger-than-Jesus.html
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December 26, 2013 8:26am
Scott Chris

I always thought it was pronounced ‘mo-way’. Turns out the correct pronunciation is ‘mo-wett’. Oh what a pleb I am:

Moët is indeed French champagne and was founded in 1743 by Claude Moët. Moët was born in France in 1683; however, his name is not French, it is Dutch, which is why it is pronounced thus, says Helen Vause, public relations spokesperson for Moët & Chandon in New Zealand.

http://lucire.com/2002/0530ll0.shtml
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December 26, 2013 8:37am
flipper

Akaroa (428 comments) says:

December 26th, 2013 at 8:25 am

I see the ol’ Auckland City mission has had a few mentions in recent posts.

I drive past there every day – sometimes several times.

The crowds!…… The crowds!……..Spilling
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An interesting observation… but there is more.
I have a daughter who was once (now divorced) married to a PI.

The PI community has the City Mission sussed.
They turn up for the feast… they turn up for “relief”… they turn up on TV “news” coverage pleading their case….and they have a silly woman City Missioner who believes them.
The consequence of that is that they have successfully imported their “you give; me take” Pasifika operating mode Auckland and have exported it elsewhere.

When the silly City Missioner talks of thousands needing relief after five years of pump grinding she loses all credibility by7 showing her political leanings……. and presents as a person bereft of true Christian ideals.
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December 26, 2013 9:02am
peterwn

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9553521/A-case-of-mistaken-identity-not-so-easily-solved
“A witness report obtained by The Press showed a member of the public saw a young, fair-haired man in a red car on Golf Links Rd, next to The Palms, revving his engine and doing burnouts on Sunday, December 15.”

IMO this is totally unacceptable, and I would hope that the Police Minister asks the Commissioner for a ‘Please Explain’ at their next regular meeting.

The Police have been granted quite draconian powers to deal with matters of public concern such as boy racers and domestic situations, but with this power comes responsibility.

In this particular instance, there was no urgency to seize this car. It was not as the driver had been caught ‘red handed’ by the police (as the legislation intended). It was not as if multiple complaints had been received about the particular car. It is unacceptable for the police to exercise these draconian powers on the ‘say so’ of a complainant or witness who either may be mistaken or worse still have an axe to grind.

This follows on from the detention of Helen Milner’s innocent son who was detained on the ‘say or so’ of his mother who had made a maliciously false complaint. Then it was made worse by the police taking three days to arrange his release when it was known that the complaint was false.

In both cases the innocent person had to do their own investigations to prove they were victims of incorrect/ false complaints.

The PM and responsible Ministers need to take careful note here. Why should people donate time and money to their party, when the agencies they are responsible are most disrespectful of the human rights of ordinary people going about their normal business.
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December 26, 2013 9:19am
kowtow

Muslim terrorists prove Islam is not a religion of peace.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013/12/blast-hits-near-church-iraqi-capital-201312259356502237.html
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December 26, 2013 9:21am
Nukuleka

flipper

I have many PI friends and extended family- and lived in ***** for many years. You are right on the button. PIs are not fools. The concept of ‘you give, I take’ is culturally embedded in all PI societies, and we in NZ get conned every inch of the way. Great people in so many ways but clever enough to take NZ society and the leftwing do-gooders for a ride every dollar and food parcel along the way!
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December 26, 2013 9:41am
Scott

People let’s be fair to the Auckland city mission. They feed as many people as they can. Imagine what the media would say if they turned people away?

To me it is an example of Christian charity. Someone correct me if I am wrong but I don’t think they take any government money for providing the Christmas dinner? So if the taxpayers are not on the hook then why should it bother anybody? Indeed it seems to me a good example of what Christmas is about, which is giving.

God gave us the gift of his son which is what we remember and celebrate on Christmas Day. So we in turn give glory to God by giving to our fellow men. I think that’s the meaning of Christmas really.
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December 26, 2013 9:41am
Nostalgia-NZ

Morning flipper. It’s too easy to swallow the line about those that ‘use’ the City Mission Lunch as being all PIs or all bludgers, unemployed, drug using gambling addicts. The only person I know who was going to go to the City Mission one year for lunch was an older European woman whose once adequate life had changed shape after a divorce. Ironically, she and a daughter were both involved in a Trust set up to deliver medicines and other such things to the Pacific Islands. The mother’s situation was compounded by giving her daughter money by way of a mortgage on her home to aid the Trust, ultimately the interest payments stretched her finances to almost breaking point.

I’ve read in the news from time to time that many that go to the lunch are often elderly and looking for companionship leading me to believe there are no ‘rules’ which forbid the opportunity to simply mix with others on Christmas day. No doubt there are many who feel they are driven there because of tough times or who might take the opportunity for their children to have a enjoyable time. Of course among the number there will be some of the homeless population and others that wander from a less than pleasant past. In short, no common definition.

That brings me to your comment about the ‘you give me take’ assertion that you seem to think prevails at the Mission lunch. If it in fact does it is far more common in the community and it well recorded that transmissions in the millions go to islands each year from within families to those still residing in the traditional home. In fact I seem to recall it was the highest, or near the highest ‘earner’ reported in Samoa some years ago. This along with funerals, marriages, ‘building a home,’ supporting a Matai actually turns the adage into ‘me give you take.’ Forgot to mention the Churches of course, the biggest, by far, beneficiary. A traditional source of those ‘spare’ funds is extra work, overtime, a second or third job by people no doubt most unwilling to be seen as ‘needing a hand’ or a meal, in fact proud of hard work and improving the lot of their family.

Nukuleka claims to have been ‘conned,’ however the adage about a ‘fool and his money’ isn’t distinctly Polynesian. In fact the point is the absolutes and ‘universal’ statements made about this subject are far from informed and more tuned to aligning a bias. One which Mils Muliaina experienced in the reverse way to that being advocated here. It may not have happened in Dunedin yet but in Auckland now for at least 2 decades it is the PIs forming the greater part of the Church congregations and still building their own churches. Traditional brass bands are thin on the ground and are replaced by PI bands for the Christmas parades and even those of the Anzac parades, some of the RSA’s that manage to survive in South Auckland have taken to renting their premises for PI weddings, engagement etc – in other words some traditional institutions are now supported by a newer part of the community. Overall, as point out above the situation of the City Mission has many descriptions and reasons, not just those that appeal to the ‘look at me I work and they don’t brigade. Of course it can’t be forgotten that there remains a community spirit abroad which costs nothing, and which is far more satisfying for those that have it than those that begrudge it.
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December 26, 2013 10:21am
Left Right and Centre

The biggest thing worhipped today will be retail transactions in shops Scott.

Having a slap up meal on one particular day of the year falls into the same category as any other nicety. If you can’t afford something that you want – bad luck. It’s not a survival necessity. It’s something that religious charities do to provide a treat for people one day a year. They are probably not starving to death in their everyday lives.

I don’t care if people have religious celebratory food trimmings provided for them or not. They are not hard done by if they don’t.

I saw in the news somewhere that one outfit of do-gooders put on a feed – the people ate while krismess carols were played by a band. You’d have to be pretty fucking desperate for some nosh 🙂 🙂
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December 26, 2013 10:23am
Longknives

Hah! I live in Auckland mate I have never seen anybody going into that flea-ridden ‘City Mission’ that didn’t look like they just got paroled from Mt Eden!!

“driven there because of tough times or who might take the opportunity for their children to have a enjoyable time.”

Pull the other one mate- No decent parent in their right mind would expose their children to such scum…
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December 26, 2013 10:38am
Left Right and Centre

It’s the week long Boxing Day sale !! Everything 150-200% off !!

Three day Boxing Day sale now on !! Rush in !!

Boxing Day clearance – two days only. Get in quick.

I saw this advert for one shop I won’t name – The Boxing Day Sale has been extended until tomorrow. How thick do they think people are ? It’s all carefully orchestrated. They didn’t at the last minute decide to do anything. Fooling no-one.

The retailers are just hilarious. What a pack of insufferable capitalist fuckwits.

They land on the holidays like flies on shit. Every public holiday. Time for a storewide sale !! Easter or Anzac Day is next or whatever day off the masses with mass boredom and cash burning a hole in their pocket have off.

We must cash-in on all of these suckers with time on their hands – get them get them get them get them. Get the cash, get that fucking cash from them. I want all of their cash. They’ve got money !! Get it !! Cha-ching !! Swipe, swipe, swipe goes the debit and credit card. It’s swipemania out there. Here’s your plasticky Chinese bullshit electronic appliance mate. Well done – feel better now ?? You got 30% off something that cost $3 to put together in Ching chong chock-a-block of knock-off tick-tocker land man.

It’s beer and wine week in a supermarket leading up to xbox. Of course it is. Want the $$$$$ ?? Loss lead with a few piss bargains. At the margin it must be the best head turner. Those with the dollars care most about who’s selling the cheapest booze. So – get them in for the poison and while they’re at it they’ll spend up large on all the big margin rubbish. Brilliant !! Obvious and cynical, but legal and a sad reflection of a society that is lured best by cheap piss.
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December 26, 2013 10:52am
Nostalgia-NZ

You should have gone yourself Longknives instead of using speculative guess work. I’m sure you would have been welcome. You could have spoken to the children recently paroled from Mount Eden told them what a hard worker you are and that all ‘your’ tax is paying for them to eat lunch. They would have thought you were great.
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December 26, 2013 10:53am
Longknives

I would have popped in Nostalgia but the overwhelming stench of body odour, urine and Cannabis could possibly have put me off my tasty Christmas lunch…
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December 26, 2013 10:59am
Manolo

How more farcical can it get? http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/12/figures-obama-tried-to-sign-up-for-obamacare-but-system-couldnt-verify-his-identity-video/
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December 26, 2013 11:42am
stephieboy

Longknives your not chair of the policy council with the Right Wing Resistance by chance.?
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December 26, 2013 12:04pm
peterwn

Seems crime is down and drink drives are down so the Antunović clan (Wellington based criminal and drink drive lawyers) seem to be facing a lean Christmas. They seem to be having to resort to advertising on Whaleoil and elsewhere.
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December 26, 2013 12:45pm
Nostalgia-NZ

‘I would have popped in Nostalgia but the overwhelming stench of body odour, urine and Cannabis could possibly have put me off my tasty Christmas lunch…’

Obviously smells you recognise LK.
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December 26, 2013 12:51pm
Colville

LR & C.
I brought running gear, merino and hunting gear. All about 50% off , whats not to like?
Bang it all in the draws and throw out the old rooted shit and I am a size smaller than this time last year too. 🙂

Utter madness in some shops tho… incredible the knuckel dragers up town with brats in tow stuffing faces with shit food…
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December 26, 2013 1:24pm
Manolo

Merry Christmas from some friendly locals: http://news.msn.co.nz/nationalnews/8776314/young-german-campers-beaten-and-robbed
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December 26, 2013 1:25pm
Colville

Manolo.
Would the young gullible tourists get treated better in say Peru? or Chile?
Tho lots of Police with sub machine guns in Peru I remember!
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December 26, 2013 1:32pm
Left Right and Centre

Colville – I do like seeing people get bargains.

Let’s just admit that it’s really a National Day of Shopping. It’s not a holiday. What part of holiday means spending the better part of the day at shops ? To me that’s work. Hard, hard stressful work. Crowded shops, clogged up roads, finding a parking space, queuing up, under-staffed shops trying to cope with a one-off overload of customers, comparing products and prices, decisions, decisions, decisions, back and forth one place to another….. holiday ?? Sounds like a frickin nightmare.

We don’t have public holidays, we have public shopping days. Look at Easter. It’s number one on the kristian calendar, and yet that’s when garden centres demand the economic freedom to open 28 hours a day, but they won’t touch xbox day. Because the retailers marketing tells the moronic masses that Easter is a far distant number two behind xbox. It’s actually the other way around – it’s another one of those irritating truths that reading really helps with. I have trouble undoing all the social programming damage of these bullshit lies however.

And my own note on the face-stuffing – I all too frequently bear witness to people who have just left the checkout at p’n’s, and then break open the choccy bikkies or chippies to share with their kids.

They can’t wait mate. Must buy and eat NOW !!
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December 26, 2013 1:48pm
flipper

Nostalgia – NZ

Hi there…and I hope yesterday went well.

Thanks your thoughtful analysis. I have been out and about or I would have responded earlier.

I have in the past done some work with Des Britten’s Wellington City Mission (but not during lunches or dinners), and would not want it thought that all those attending are undeserving of help. Far from it. There seems however to be an over preponderance of “needy” PIs.

What you mentioned about remittances was brought home to me when many years ago I attended a South Pacific Forum meeting in Apia. The lines at he Post Office on “pay day” were incredible……. This is not confined to Apia. Suva etc is as bad, and I understand the same Situation exits in Nukualofa, and to a lesser extent in Avarua.

The tithe demands of Churches are obscene. as are the “taxes” imposed by Matai’s. In effect those PI families that have good work in New Zealand are being blackmailed by their PI resident rellies into contributions that leave them poor in NZ terms. Those demands are sometimes quite unconscionable. In our case, my wife and I contributed substantially to our grandchildren’s savings. In fact se deposited about 90% of their savings. When our the PI son in law ascertained the balances in their bank accounts he demanded (through his then wife) access so that he could send monies to his family in Apia. Fortunately my wife had foreseen this problem and was the only authorised bank signatory. Nevertheless we finally had to get our Solicitors involved with son in law and the bank to stop his attempts to raid the accounts.

But did that stop him? No he used our name and connections to borrow monies which were exported. Eventually they (daughter and son in law) were declared bankrupt. We declined to solve the problem …and then one thing led to another, including the marriage breakup.

All that said…. when I see so many PIs lining up at the Auckland City Mission I am reminded of our family’s misfortunes, and the causes.

Sorry to take so much space in dealing with what I think is essentially an endemic cultural problem.
Happy sale going.
F..
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December 26, 2013 1:58pm
duggledog

Peterwn @ 9.19:

“A witness report obtained by The Press showed a member of the public saw a young, fair-haired man in a red car on Golf Links Rd, next to The Palms, revving his engine and doing burnouts on Sunday, December 15.”

IMO this is totally unacceptable, and I would hope that the Police Minister asks the Commissioner for a ‘Please Explain’ at their next regular meeting.

The Police have been granted quite draconian powers to deal with matters of public concern such as boy racers and domestic situations, but with this power comes responsibility.”

Here’s the news Peter – IMO (and most other people’s opinion) – fuck ’em.

When the Police get reports of young idiots losing traction and driving dangerously, they jump on them hard and fast. They’re allowed to and they are making real progress. If they can impound or green sticker one of their cars, they will. They do need to verify the complaint and I’d say in 99.9% of the cases there are no mistakes, and there is form. For the poor sod who’s in the wrong place at the wrong time, that’s a price I’m willing to pay to get these clowns off the road.

Anybody who tries to get someone in trouble with the Police under false pretenses runs the risk of being charged themselves. The real problem we have, as always, is not a Police State with ‘draconian laws’ (draconian: a word used by the left that actually means common sense), it’s a judiciary that continues to let the little fuckers off.
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December 26, 2013 2:08pm
MT_Tinman

Quick, tell me again why the drugs cheat should waltz into the NZ test cricket team at the expense of the current (by default) captain.
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December 26, 2013 2:15pm
duggledog

Manolo

Normally it’s the far North. Honestly, when is there going to be some sort of public education at the Airport for tourists?

At some point, someone has to hand out leaflets warning backpackers that they are liable to be held up / robbed / beaten / raped / murdered in the dead of night if they don’t sleep somewhere safe in:
Turangi
Taupo
Rotorua
Anywhere north of Whangarei
Whangarei
Wairoa
East Cape
Kawerau
Wanga… sorry Whanganui
now Whakatane…
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December 26, 2013 2:17pm
wat dabney

kowtow,

“Muslim terrorists prove Islam is not a religion of peace.”

World history proves Christianity is not a religion of peace. Yet your simply blind bigotry – no different from that of any Muslim – lets you go on supporting the more murderous of the two creeds.

Someone’s had a stab at calculating the numbers of victims of Christianity and Islam respectively:

http://abagond.wordpress.com/2013/04/24/are-christians-more-violent-than-muslims/

You’re in the position of the Nazis disingenuously decrying the Communists for the Katyn massacre.
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December 26, 2013 2:18pm
MT_Tinman

duggledog (801 comments) says:
December 26th, 2013 at 2:08 pm

Here’s the news Peter – IMO (and most other people’s opinion) – fuck ‘em.

When the Police get reports of young idiots losing traction and driving dangerously, they jump on them hard and fast. They’re allowed to and they are making real progress. If they can impound or green sticker one of their cars, they will. They do need to verify the complaint and I’d say in 99.9% of the cases there are no mistakes, and there is form. For the poor sod who’s in the wrong place at the wrong time, that’s a price I’m willing to pay to get these clowns off the road.

Well I’m fucking not!

You didn’t reply to me but I’ll reply to you.

The NZ police, particularly their traffic scum, are totally out of control with all the negative connotations this brings. Dishonesty and corruption are rife as recent court cases and commissioner comments have demonstrated.

The police, whether you like it or not, are there to serve the community, not shaft it to feed their perverted wants and needs.

The real problem we have, as always, is not a Police State with ‘draconian laws’ (draconian: a word used by the left that actually means common sense), it’s a judiciary that continues to let the little fuckers off.

No!

The judiciary has nothing to do with this, this is solely the police misusing their power disgracefully.

I would seriously hope the minister, along with the police hierarchy, act quickly to repopulate the ChCh police with honest people who can rehabilitate the force in the region.
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December 26, 2013 2:32pm
nickb

Quick, tell me again why the drugs cheat should waltz into the NZ test cricket team at the expense of the current (by default) captain.

Come on tinny, hand off it…No one is saying he should replace McCullum. Hopefully the walking wicket Fulton goes. It does raise the question as to who gets dropped though. I hope its not Anderson because he has shown great promise. Maybe Ryder, Watling or McCullum to open?

Great achievement by Taylor scoring 3 100s in 3 games…not so got at the ODI today
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December 26, 2013 2:50pm
peterwn

Duggledog
“When the Police get reports of young idiots losing traction and driving dangerously, they jump on them hard and fast. They’re allowed to and they are making real progress. If they can impound or green sticker one of their cars, they will. ”

Yes, I will go along with this, as long as the police will immediately fork out $20k to any innocent person if they get it wrong. also the Police to furnish a report to the incident to the Minister within 48 hours. The police will be more careful then.
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December 26, 2013 2:50pm
stephieboy

wat dabney (3,139 comments) says:
December 26th, 2013 at 2:18 pm

I don’t know exactly the point your driving at but it is an incontrovertible fact ( no matter how unpleasant or unpalatable ) that Stalin and his NKVD were responsible for the Katyn massacre of Polish Officers , and other Polish military personal.
The fact was suppressed and concealed by the Soviet Union but the Truth did finally emerge, especially post Glasnost.
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December 26, 2013 2:51pm
nickb

Normally it’s the far North. Honestly, when is there going to be some sort of public education at the Airport for tourists?

It’s a strange place. So many beautiful spots habited by wealthy retirees, along with heaps of welfare fuelled towns with psychopaths roaming around. A lot of bad incidents with tourists up there recently.
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December 26, 2013 2:54pm
OECD rank 22 kiwi

The continuing art project known as Charlie Sheen Twitter just gets more and more delicious.
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December 26, 2013 2:56pm
MH

given a stone type material frying pan and tested out the claim as seen on TV that the old non-stick gave out fumes that would kill budgies and pets. Got neighbour’s 2 budgies i’m meant to look after and popped one on the stonenex pan,put on high on gas stove and can confirm he survived a lot longer than the one on the non stick.Unsure about the fumes though. Another myth busted. Anyone need a birdcage for the new year? I took the door off so I can explain the birds absence when neighbour returns. Willing to exchange for a holiday time suite….throw in a non stick pan-the one with the red dot.
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December 26, 2013 3:47pm
Chuck Bird

“Yes, I will go along with this, as long as the police will immediately fork out $20k to any innocent person if they get it wrong.”

I think a better deterrent would a lower about say in the case about $4k with the majority of it being paid personally by the police officer(s) involved. In this case their was so many stuff ups starting with the wrong license number being given that shows the police were grossly negligent that they should be penalized personally.
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December 26, 2013 4:06pm
RF

With record Boxing Day sales being recorded the lefty hand wringers along with the Silent T must be banging their heads on desk tops in frustration. Their doom and gloom predictions concerning our “fragile economy” have gone out the window along with their hopes of making the treasury benches next year.

Everytime I see the smarmy prick Cunliffe on TV telling us that we are doomed if we do not vote for their lot, I feel like puking.
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December 26, 2013 4:07pm
Manolo

Would the young gullible tourists get treated better in say Peru? or Chile?

Probably not, but over there neither the police nor the justice system would treat the bastards with silk gloves.
And after all, we’re supposed to be a First World country, aren’t we?
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December 26, 2013 4:10pm
Scott Chris

Got neighbour’s 2 budgies i’m meant to look after and popped one on the stonenex pan,put on high on gas stove and can confirm he survived a lot longer than the one on the non stick.

Here’s an idea – try putting your hand in the frying pan and see how long it takes to start smoking.
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December 26, 2013 4:23pm
Manolo

Good on these people for making it big: http://sport.msn.co.nz/slideshowajax/345029/10-big-earning-kiwi-sports-stars.slideshow

NZ needs winners not whingers, freeloaders and losers in life.
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December 26, 2013 4:33pm
Johnboy

Wonderous Xmas news concerning Magpies: 🙂

Phillup and Phillus have had an egg. I have named it Phillit! 🙂
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December 26, 2013 4:50pm
Sofia

Johnboy, considering a bad reputation magpies have, did Phillup and Phillus have Phillit in their own nest, or did they philch someone else’s?
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December 26, 2013 5:06pm
Johnboy

Whatever their morals Sofia at least they aren’t Muslims, they love hambones! 🙂
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December 26, 2013 5:17pm
OneTrack

rf – “Their doom and gloom predictions concerning our “fragile economy” …”

If Cunliffe/Norman/Turei/Hone get in, we will find out that what Cunliffe said is somewhat correct – our economy is pretty fragile. Unfortunately he will prove it by breaking it.
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December 26, 2013 5:17pm
Manolo

Meanwhile the cops are too busy ticketing speeding motorists: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11178015
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December 26, 2013 6:54pm
wat dabney

stephieboy,

“I don’t know exactly the point your driving at…”

Communist culpability for Katyn is key to the point I was making: supporters of two equally barbaric creeds each decrying the sins of the others whilst ignoring and glossing over their own evils.

Our friend kowtow can’t and doesn’t try to deny the historical fact that Christian theocracies were every bit as barbaric as anything Islam has ever been responsible for, yet the bigoted fool seems to think he is somehow scoring points by pointing out Muslim atrocities.

If only the Bible contain some versus about the plank in one’s own eye…

The little twerp shakes his little fists at secularists, apparently oblivious to the fact that it is only thanks to humanists that we escaped the barbarities of the Christian state.
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December 26, 2013 7:17pm
edhunter

Jeez people record Boxing Day sales prove the left are correct, if everyone was doing as well as the Nats would have you believe they’d all have paid full price before xmas instead of saying to the kids no chrissy presents you’ll have to wait for your boxing presents.
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December 26, 2013 7:22pm
nasska

Confirming what we suspected. 🙂

Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/cdbirje3316fik8/Pollie.jpg
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December 26, 2013 7:49pm
Johnboy

Merry Xmas nasska. 🙂
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December 26, 2013 7:52pm
nasska

Same you JB. 🙂
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December 26, 2013 7:54pm
nasska

But I put it to you your honour, that once adorned with tinsel and baubles it was no longer a cannabis plant but a Christmas tree!
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December 26, 2013 8:11pm
chiz

Another reason for Putin’s support revealed: Russian company signs oil exploration deal with Syria.
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December 26, 2013 8:18pm
Johnboy

You got a minus before I gave you a plus nasska!

The JB Minusmonster is proactive! 🙂
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December 26, 2013 8:45pm
Johnboy

That’s alright. I just went upwards to the start and gave everyone an up thumb. Yes Nosti-NZ even you! 🙂

That’ll fuck the little fucker! 🙂
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December 26, 2013 8:50pm
nasska

It would seem that Obama has made such a hash of his health care provisions that there’s opposition from both sides of the political divide. This from a Democrat leaning US blog…….

Obamacare login issues:

” You must enter a password to proceed .”
-roses
” Sorry, too few characters .”
-pretty roses

” Sorry, you must use at least one numerical character .”
-1 pretty rose

” Sorry, you cannot use blank spaces .”
-1prettyrose

” Sorry, you must use at least 10 different characters .”
-1fuckingprettyrose

” Sorry, you must use at least one upper case character .”
-1FUCKINGprettyrose

” Sorry, you cannot use more than one upper case character consecutively .”
-1FuckingPrettyRose

” Sorry, you must use no fewer than 20 total characters .”
-1FuckingPrettyRoseShovedUpYourAssIfYouDon’tGiveMeAccessRightFuckingNow!

” Sorry, you cannot use punctuation marks .”
-1FuckingPrettyRoseShovedUpYourAssIfYouDontGiveMeAccessRightFuckingNow

” Sorry, that password is already taken.”
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December 26, 2013 8:57pm
Johnboy

Putin’s MIRV’s would have buggered the US before the Kenyan got his spelling right nasska! 🙂
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December 26, 2013 9:03pm
Johnboy

JB Minusmonsters must eat at 8:00 to 9:00… !! 🙂
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December 26, 2013 9:11pm
Reid

Any takers?

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2013/11/the-worlds-tallest-waterslide-better-end-with-the-worlds-deepest-pool/
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December 26, 2013 10:00pm
Reid

What a human about to be might look like before it’s ~~sacrificed~~ “aborted.” (What a nice, friendly word…)

When does a soul enter a creature? Or doesn’t that matter?

http://sploid.gizmodo.com/the-incredible-and-otherworldly-beauty-of-a-horse-in-th-1481693968
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December 26, 2013 10:10pm
Johnboy

I could send a photo of Phillit the baby Magpie if I knew how to Reid! 🙂

He/she loves hambones! 🙂
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December 26, 2013 10:18pm
Fletch

Hmm, I found the Christmas episode of Doctor Who tonight rather disappointing 🙁
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December 26, 2013 10:25pm
Reid

I found the Christmas episode of Doctor Who tonight rather disappointing

Personally I’ve always found it disappointing since it stopped talking about the cybermen and the daleks, who I was hoping would band together in a Dr Evil arrangement, invade Whitehall and eliminate the lefties, but it never happened. And now look what the lefties have gone and done, all because of that plot omission.

http://www.infowars.com/obama-family-christmas-card-no-mention-of-christ-or-christmas/

It’s not fair.
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December 26, 2013 10:31pm
Johnboy

I always thought that it went downhill after Jon Pertwee regenerated! 🙂
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December 26, 2013 10:38pm
chiz

Personally – it left me confused. Previously we’ve been led to believe that Gallifrey was burnt during the Time War and it couldn’t be saved due to the war being time-locked. Then, during he anniversary special, we leant that all the Doctors had in fact saved it in some sort of stasis painting but that the War Doctor – and later regenerations – had forgotten this. Now it turns out that its outside the universe? Ummm?

Still, at least we finally found out who blew up the Tardis.
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December 26, 2013 11:03pm
Fletch

I think the writer seems to be making it up as he goes along…
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December 26, 2013 11:26pm
SPC

A longer review of the episode.

http://io9.com/this-was-a-fitting-end-to-the-matt-smith-era-of-doctor-1489705715/@charliejane
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December 26, 2013 11:31pm
SPC

I would have thought, the need to “make a new future” sort of covered it. Not being the 11th but the 12th and the last who would die an old man, unless something outside of the universe used an opening in it to change “the future”.

An obvious take on 12 times followed by a new year. The past remains, but the opportunity to make a life anew exists for each of us.

Too religious for you Fletch? Or just disturbed by the Tasha Lem character.
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December 26, 2013 11:54pm
SPC

chiz, where would a continuing planet exist, if only in a painting in the time and space of this universe, if not outside of it across all time and space (thus any call would be across all time and space)? Thus what would be known to exist outside a tear in the fabric of the universe and could act through it?
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December 27, 2013 12:17am
Reid

thus any call would be across all time and space

How much would Telecom charge for that, and could you Skype it? And if so, would it be subject to TPP rules and if so, does that mean you would have to share a cell with Dotcom after he hadn’t had any sex for awhile?
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December 27, 2013 1:23am
Fletch

SPC, it somehow just didn’t feel like a Dr Who episode to me.
It just seemed to slow down the story having him spend 300 years on a planet and growing old.
I mean, this is the Doctor… He couldn’t think of another way to fix it?

And the whole premise seemed off – would the timelords really send a signal asking for his name until such time as they got an answer be afraid to come out?

And what was the thing where he used his regeneration energy to blow those ships out of the sky? It’s like the lore is being messed with; like giving Superman new powers based on the circumstance.

And the bald wig, weird naked stuff, lying to Clara about sending her away (how did he do that in a truth field?), etc.

The whole thing just gave me a bad vibe, especially after the triumph of the 50th show.
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December 27, 2013 10:37am
chiz

SPC:

chiz, where would a continuing planet exist, if only in a painting in the time and space of this universe, if not outside of it across all time and space (thus any call would be across all time and space)?

Gallifrey was inside the “painting”, the “painting” is inside the universe, therefore, by transitivity, Gallifrey is inside the universe. The whole point of the stasis paintings, as I understood it, is that the contents were frozen in time and stored inside the frame.
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December 27, 2013 4:32pm
jackinabox

“This was a grave error on their behalf but no matter what I said, [the police] wouldn’t budge and they just kept insisting I had let someone borrow my car and asking me who I had lent it to.”

What was that I said about the porky bastards be ignorantly intransigent?
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