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November 4, 2013 8:00am by Kokila Patel

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Harriet

“….1) I’ll get crucified for this but animals are not people….’

Well said Nasska and I couldn’t agree more.

Some people can’t see that the Greens SPCA ect actually de-humanise people when they place animals and people on the same level. Or animals above people. Sure, animals shouldn’t be treated poorly, and there should be rules & regulations around the care and treatment of animals.

But that is far different than the Greens ect calling for penalties that are far more harsh and severe for the cruelty of animals than what people recieve for mistreating humans.
The Greens, Labour et el are soft on criminals and don’t give a stuff about human victims – but animals being victims – and we never hear the end of it.

Labour should do what Bill Clinton did – take the ball and chain off themselves going into an election and get fucken tuff on criminals. But they won’t as voters will move to the Greens or decide that they may as well vote national.

Maybe you should vote for the Conservatives Nasska – animals are below us.
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November 4, 2013 6:39pm
Fletch

More typical nonsense from Obama.
Navy SEALS have been ordered to remove the historical “Don’t Tread On Me” army patch from their uniforms.

Perhaps this is why so many of my former teammates felt compelled to send me the email below. They may not be able to expose the administration’s travesty, but I can. The email, dated October 22, reads:

ALL:
WARCOM and GROUP TWO/ONE have pushed out the uniform policy for NWU III and any patches worn on the sleeve.
All personnel are only authorized to wear the matching “AOR” American Flag patch on the right shoulder. You are no longer authorized to wear the “Don’t Tread On Me” patch.
Again the only patch authorized for wear is the American flag on the right shoulder. Please pass the word to all
Thanks
Senior Enlisted Advisor
[Name Redacted]

http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/01/navy-seals-ordered-to-remove-dont-tread-on-me-navy-jack-from-uniforms/

The former Navy SEAL Neal Higby explains –

The Navy Jack is the ‘don’t tread on me’ flag, one that has earned a revered place in America’s naval history and a beloved place in sailor’s hearts, through its use for over two centuries. This symbol of America’s naval ferocity has spanned our country’s entire existence, flying from the masts of the Continental Navy during the war of independence, to today’s War on Terror. In fact, an amendment to the Navy code called SECNAV Instruction 10520.6 clearly states that as of 31 May 2002 all ships are to fly the flag throughout the duration of the War on Terror.

Anything that Obama finds threatening to him must be gone-burger.
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November 4, 2013 6:39pm
Pauleastbay

From the Sports desk-
How bad are the Black Caps?
How good is Vettel?
How bloody hard is it to pick a winner out of that Cup field tomorrow?
Did anybody watch the All Blacks ‘roadshow/exhibition match’ with Japan?

1.Pretty bad, but that Mike Hesson is a bloody good coach, passed all his exams/
2. Not as good as Raikokken, go Kimi in a ferrari
3. Pick a little mare.
4. If Wyatt Crockett is the answer, its a worrying question
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November 4, 2013 6:44pm
nasska

Harriet

I’m a farmer….if I mistreated animals I’d go bankrupt but treating them as equal to humans is batshit crazy.

…”Maybe you should vote for the Conservatives Nasska”…. you’re hallucinating! 🙂
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November 4, 2013 6:55pm
Viking2

Why does a slight tax increase cost you two hundred dollars, and a substantial tax cut saves you thirty cents?
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November 4, 2013 7:03pm
Viking2

Two headlines in todays news.

World wool prices on the rise
The price of wool rose 10 per cent in world price terms in October, to the best levels seen in 22 months, according to the latest ANZ Commodity Price Index report.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/agribusiness/9360423/World-wool-prices-on-the-rise

Teddy bear shearing leaves crowd in stitches
Teddy bear shearing made its debut at the 70th annual Tapawera Boys and Girls Agricultural Club show on Saturday and the sight of young children taking to their fake furred friends with a wooden handpiece had a large audience in stitches.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/agribusiness/9359932/Teddy-bear-shearing-leaves-crowd-in-stitches

I guess shearing your teddy bear will add to the wool clip.
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November 4, 2013 7:08pm
Tauhei Notts

Fletch at 2,20 p.m.
You are betting on a certainty.
Now give us a certainty for The Cup tomorrow.
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November 4, 2013 7:14pm
Kea

Harriet , humans not like animals, they are animals. Personally I find it appalling that we even need to make laws about not being cruel.
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November 4, 2013 7:57pm
nasska

“…very dark, is the other side, very dark.”

“Shut up Yoda! Just eat your fucking toast.”
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November 4, 2013 8:00pm
Kea

I wonder when Griff will self medicate on cannabis enough to show his face again after the leaked IPCC report ?

Here is some recent footage of him at a retreat with his friends 🙂

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G880gxjj9dI
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November 4, 2013 8:08pm
nasska

Alas poor Griff….we see him rarely nowadays. Surely he knows that the ridicule & laughter will be only temporary. 🙂
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November 4, 2013 8:11pm
Kea

nasska, like many chronic drug abusers he had moments of lucidity, before apocalyptic hallucinations of the end times came to haunt his buzz. Poor Griff must be devastated that mankind will not be wiped out along with all life as we know it. What a terrible thing to have happen 🙂
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November 4, 2013 8:17pm
nasska

Don’t worry Kea…..the World Government proponents will have some other crisis cooking that he’ll be able to get his teeth into. 🙂
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November 4, 2013 8:20pm
UglyTruth

1) I’ll get crucified for this but animals are not people

Seriously, why is there even a debate about this?
The man and other animals meme is blatantly NWO material, who is pushing this?
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November 4, 2013 8:27pm
Kea

nasska, the smart ones abandoned AGW long ago. They are finding other ways to punish people for being white and prosperous. The EU is doing great work in this area dishing out brutal punishments to those cheeky Brits, by allowing masses of dirt poor Eastern Europeans to pour in from failed [is there another kind] socialist states and every tom dick and Achmed, with a tan, from anywhere.
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November 4, 2013 8:29pm
nasska

It’s doing the job of stuffing Western civilisation far better than real, actual Climate Change ever could have Kea.

Never mind the fake crap we were fed.
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November 4, 2013 8:33pm
Johnboy

I always treat my girly animals like real people and I’m not crazy! 🙂
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November 4, 2013 8:35pm
Kea

nasska, it was never about the weather. It was about stuffing Western civilisation, with the exception of carbon credit billionares like Al Gore and other elites grabbing the tax dollars, from taxes they imposed.
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November 4, 2013 8:37pm
Steve (North Shore)

Johnboy, you waste money on makeup for your girly animals. Warehouse makeup is cheap as – I mean the girls have never seen makeup, so cheap is the way to go
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November 4, 2013 8:40pm
nasska

Good treatment is not without its risks JB. 🙂

Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/x1cs4cgdg9iikpk/Sheep%2022.jpg
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November 4, 2013 8:41pm
Johnboy

Nonsense Steve. I draw a mouth on my belly with Warehouse lipstick so I know who I’ve kissed! 🙂
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November 4, 2013 8:44pm
Johnboy

I haven’t being keeping up with the news. Has there been much protesting from the leftie, ethnic apologist folks about that murderous tyrant the right has installed in the White House? 🙂
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November 4, 2013 8:48pm
Left Right and Centre

I’m in the bottom 20%…. sell me a burger… sell me a burger… I want to see a fucking burger… show me a rotating burger right now… I want to see it…I want to buy it… that’s all there is in my life…burgers burgers burgers… a fucking burger… that’s all I want and it’s all I’ll ever need, because that’s what my life is… a rotating burger. All I’ve got is my mindless TV viewing habit and my daily goal of seeing a burger, responding to the burger and getting in my piece of shit pock-marked roof 16 year old jap crap crush-dodger import and satisfying my need for a bloody rotating burger, just like the one that my best mate TV tells me to go out and get… lining up at the drive-thru with all the other burger buying braindead drooling living dead dripshits….. would you like fries with that fucktard? Duuuuuh – yeah -nah…. I don’t know – they didn’t show no rotating fries on TV – now I’m confused eh man? Faaaaaaaaaarr!!
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November 4, 2013 8:49pm
Kea

Johnboy, Many lefties have been very critical of the violent black war monger on his blood soaked crusade to rid the world of people unsympathetic to Israel, while giving hundreds of billions of American tax payer money to Jewish owned financial institutions like Goldman Sachs, who were so very generous to Obama during his election campaign.

But those people don’t get wide exposure because they do not control the media. A media that only allows glorification of the violent black warlord.
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November 4, 2013 8:54pm
Kea

LRC, did you see what DPF did ?

I am still waiting for Red to come along and start abusing David for posting about running, like he usually does 🙂
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November 4, 2013 8:58pm
Johnboy

Jesus Kea. I thought he was a Kenyan, I never realised he was a Jew till what you just said.

Still he does bear a passing resemblance to Sammy Davis Junior now you have suggested it. 🙂
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November 4, 2013 9:00pm
Johnboy

Christ Kea. Don’t be so obvious. We can all tell you are hanging out for Red to come and abuse you you don’t have to whistle so loud! 🙂
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November 4, 2013 9:03pm
Left Right and Centre

iKea – yeah I did. Running a NY marathon would be cool. Red is like a woman. He’s made to be loved, not understood. I might’ve ripped that quote off.
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November 4, 2013 9:07pm
Kea

Johnboy, if I felt the need to hear from Red I could dredge up some nuggets of abuse he gifted us at the mere mention of running.
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November 4, 2013 9:07pm
Johnboy

Chaps like Red are the wind beneath your wings Kea! 🙂
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November 4, 2013 9:10pm
nasska

Kea

I reckon that once Baity sobered up this morning he realised that he hurt my feelings with some of the things he wrote yesterday.

He’s probably just delayed while he composes his apology to me. 🙂
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November 4, 2013 9:10pm
Johnboy

I must have got pissed too early last night I missed all of that abuse nasska! 🙂
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November 4, 2013 9:12pm
Left Right and Centre

iKea – I had a nice realisation today. Nov 2012 – Oct 2013 = 4 000kms. My mate yesterday killed himself to a 56’59” 10km finish time. He’s like…. a hundy kegs… hahahaha…. faaaaaaaaark!! Good effort. I talked endlessly on the whole thing and didn’t break a sweat. Or need another shower afterwards.

Thanks to dime for adding kegs to my vocab. Thanks dime. Thanks Harriet for contributing ‘homofascist’ to the KB lexicon. I saw that. I’ll have to find uses for it but a natural opening would make my day. Fascist sounds exactly like the thing it’s describing and I’ll always picture Rik Mayall saying it.
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November 4, 2013 9:14pm
Colville

Johnboy. Did you see my note regarding santoff sambar? you want a permit?
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November 4, 2013 9:15pm
Kea

Maybe Red and Kowtow have finally been abducted and arse raped by Nazis homofacists after all those years of eager anticipation ?
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November 4, 2013 9:17pm
Johnboy

“Filthy prog, neoliberal, degenerates who bend over to tie the laces on their Nikes just encourage Homofacists to do what they are best at! ”

How is that LRaC? 🙂
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November 4, 2013 9:18pm
Johnboy

I did Colville. Is it kosher?

I gave up on the bloody ballot about 15 years ago! 🙂
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November 4, 2013 9:20pm
Left Right and Centre

JB – you’ll wake up wee hours, take a wee and think of a ~~bumdigger~~ humdinger.
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November 4, 2013 9:25pm
Left Right and Centre

iKea – I can tell you out of those two which one would be spending 99% of their fagfucking time ‘reaching repeatedly for the pot of gold at the end of the fucking rainbow’ 🙂
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November 4, 2013 9:27pm
Colville

Johnboy.
Tony Groome forestry looks after Santoff on behalf of Earnslaw
lemail Beverly at tony@groome.co.nz
$20 a weekend?
easy as totally straight. I saw 3 hinds in maybe 20 hours stalking.
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November 4, 2013 9:29pm
Kea

I do hope those homo Nazis are being gentle with our Red 🙂

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-B1pqeZJkwKo/UThTRL5j-XI/AAAAAAAA0l0/kVZF6hS4tVM/s1600/gay-nazis1.jpg
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November 4, 2013 9:30pm
Johnboy

Is it still a limited season like it used to be Colville or any time now?
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November 4, 2013 9:32pm
Colville

any time but just weekends. For Santof anyways. Sat morning to sun night an hour after sunset.
tricky fuckers that are shit eating.

If you have farming conectiuons something down foxton way may be better. I have talked to a guy that shoots a couple a month for dog food. The arm he goes to is overrun.
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November 4, 2013 9:38pm
Johnboy

I’ll give them a call thanks Colville! 🙂
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November 4, 2013 9:47pm
Left Right and Centre

hmmm… I posit a theory. The more Freeview channels and options…. the more I feel the urge to go on a P fueled rampage of lead story style fuckin violence. (you have to be on P to get a soft babyshit stretch).
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November 4, 2013 9:50pm
publicwatchdog

“Also, have you apologised to John Palino yet for calling him a bad debtor because you don’t know what a solvent liquidation is and you don’t know how to search a public register?

Do you think it is ironic you falsely slandered someone as a bad debtor when you yourself are a publicly admitted bad debtor?”

errr….. can you please provide the EVIDENCE NickB that I ever said that John Palino was a ‘bad debtor’, and how I am a ‘publicly admitted bad debtor’?

I’m refusing to pay rates, because Auckland Council’s ‘books’ are not open, and the public are not being told where exactly our monies are being spent, which means that the ‘Rule of Law’ (namely, the Public Records Act 2005, s.17 is not being implemented.

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2005/0040/latest/DLM345729.html

Recordkeeping requirements
Subpart 1—Key duties

17 Requirement to create and maintain records

(1)Every public office and local authority must create and maintain full and accurate records of its affairs, in accordance with normal, prudent business practice, including the records of any matter that is contracted out to an independent contractor.

(2)Every public office must maintain in an accessible form, so as to be able to be used for subsequent reference, all public records that are in its control, until their disposal is authorised by or under this Act or required by or under another Act.

(3)Every local authority must maintain in an accessible form, so as to be able to be used for subsequent reference, all protected records that are in its control, until their disposal is authorised by or under this Act.
___________________________________________________________________________________________________

(I think I have explained this to you before – but I guess you’re just a bit slow on the uptake?

Meant of course, in a caring way 🙂

Also, I’m sure that John Palino is quite capable of defending himself, if he has taken offence at anything that I have said, and if he isn’t bothering, I’m not quite sure why you are?

(I’m still awaiting his definition of a ‘successful business’ ?)

Kind regards,

Penny Bright

http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz
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November 4, 2013 11:34pm
Manolo

A tidal change: http://www.lindsaymitchell.blogspot.co.nz/2013/11/asia-rising.html
Hat Tip: Lindsay Mitchell
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November 5, 2013 6:23am
graham

publicwatchdog at 11:34 pm –

… Auckland Council’s ‘books’ are not open …

Neither are you – despite demanding ‘openness’ and ‘transparency’ from everybody else, you refuse to answer perfectly valid questions posed to you – so where’s the problem?

Or do you not believe in ‘one law for all’?
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November 5, 2013 7:56am
UglyTruth

Or do you not believe in ‘one law for all’?

The idea of one law for all only works within the context of a deity who has authority over the ‘all’.
The sovereignty of parliament is a fiction, the legislation does not constitute real law, it is only a set of rules for persons.
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