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Colville

Its always that last scotch that seemed like such a good idea at the time…. 🙂
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November 3, 2013 8:06am
Keeping Stock

I feel your pain Colville; one is single malt never enough.

As for KiwiAssure, is it REALLY the time for NZ Post to become the parent company to a business that would bankrupt them should there ever be another Christchurch-sized earthquake? Or does Cunliffe have a dastardly plan to turn 2000 redundant posties into an army of commission-only door-to-door insurance salesmen?

The devil with KiwiAssure will be in the detail…

http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2013/11/the-devil-is-in-detail.html
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November 3, 2013 8:19am
flipper

So what is Cun*liffe going to try and sell today?

His mother?

This prick has already sold his soul; to his union backers, and now has as much credibility as a used car salesman in South Auckland – or BC Len Brown
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November 3, 2013 8:21am
Steve (North Shore)

Actually it was the last glass of red wine to finish the bottle!
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November 3, 2013 8:22am
duggledog

Hair of the dog Colville. It’s the only way.
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November 3, 2013 8:36am
Simon

Kiwiassure. Retarded. Cant even get the name right. Assurance is for life cover ie assured something is going to happen. Insurance is for events that might happen.

Slap kiwi in somewhere and tbe simple will go for it. If you are agasinst kiwi saver, rail, bank you must be agasinst NZ.

What is with Statist and xenophobia? The profits go overseas. FFS. How does that turd Cunnliffe drive around the country on a fucking horse. The car that leftard drives the profit in making that car went overseas. Shock horror. Christ the people that shallow this shit are stupid beyond belief.
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November 3, 2013 8:43am
duggledog

Jack Tame writes in the Herald about extortionate healthcare premiums in the U.S. and Obamacare:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11150606

Tame says the recently launched website to register for Obamacare doesn’t work and ends thus:

‘Americans won’t be lamenting a finicky website. They’ll be celebrating not having to pay US$300 a week for a basic human right’

Is free healthcare a basic human right?
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November 3, 2013 8:44am
OneTrack

Re KiwiSure, he does know that they had a major earthquake in Christchurch and there have been a number of international insurance payouts, right? Is he saying that kiwisure will give insurance out at prices based on the risk profile of before the quake. Is he saying that kiwisure will simply use taxpayer backing to put all the other insurance companies out of business, because the private companies wont be able to get cheap enough backing from international insurers? Is he saying that kiwisure will just automatically pay out any claim, otherwise that woud be “mean”. Is he saying that kiwisure will not refuse to give insurance to someone, not matter how many road crashes they had?

As KS said, not many details. But details are “hard”. But who cares with details when all you have to do is tax and spend, and tax some more if there are unexpected consequences of “policy” (sic).

So, yes, the hard-left socialist (communist?) is strong in this one. The Greens are going to have to moderate him, not the other way around. Insurance is obviously a critical role of government, along with power generation. Jones thinks supermarkets (dairies?) need to be regulated ( aka nationalised ).

Whats next – cars, houses ( no, they are already doing that ), KFC (Kiwi Fried Chicken),…..

A big, totalitarian state coming to you in 2014.
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November 3, 2013 8:47am
duggledog

And Julie Anne Genter discovers they pay well at TVNZ:

“Green Party broadcasting spokeswoman Julie Anne Genter said TVNZ was paying “excessively” high salaries when the public sector should be trying to curb pay inequality”

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11150586

“Should be trying to curb pay inequality”

That’s the key line. The woman really is a communist
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November 3, 2013 8:49am
bhudson

Simon,

No, he got it dead right – if Labour get in power we are most certainly assured of a disaster!
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November 3, 2013 8:50am
Andrew

‘Kiwi’blog… Hmmm…
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November 3, 2013 8:53am
OneTrack

“That’s the key line. The woman really is a communist”

She could set an example and give back all her MPs salary (and assorted payments) so she only gets 18.40, and show some solidarity with the cleaners? And she could push to give rid of some of the outrageous rorts that still seem to abound in parliament. She could start with Gareth and chop up his Koru Club card, and help save the planet.

But, no, cant do that. Four legs good, two legs better.
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November 3, 2013 8:58am
big bruv

Kiwirail?

Oh hang on a minute…that already loses millions.
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November 3, 2013 9:00am
Pete George

‘Kiwi’blog… Hmmm…

It was already taken so Labour called their’s Red Alert. So why don’t they have RedBuild, RedPower, RedAssuree?
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November 3, 2013 9:01am
flipper

duggledog (650) Says:
November 3rd, 2013 at 8:49 am
And Julie Anne Genter discovers they pay well at TVNZ:
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I would feel more comfortable with this criticism, if this silly green list bint, were not taking $200,000 of tax [payers money every year.

In fact, the TVNZ twerps give no value for money, but that is a different issue.
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November 3, 2013 9:03am
Andrew

DPF should sell to Labour before the state assumes control of this blog…
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November 3, 2013 9:04am
hj

NZ Initiative’s Hartwhich on housing affordability and supply panadea.
He cites Germany and Switzerland… except:

German and Swiss housing markets have developed affordability issues of their own. In October the Bundesbank said apartments in Germany’s biggest cities might be overvalued by as much as 20%, after rises of 25% on average since 2010, in part due to speculation. The Swiss National Bank recently moved to force banks to hold more capital to try and cool the country’s housing market where prices have risen an average of 20% since 2008.

And analysts at Goldman Sachs included Germany and Switzerland among countries with the world’s five biggest housing bubbles.

his rationalisation is:

these problems were created by the euro crisis rather than structural problems with the German or Swiss housing markets.

“The dates that you mention – 2008 and 2010 – are quite telling. It basically coincides with the euro crisis. You can see that interest rates have fallen in the eurozone. The European Central Bank is now going through a period of activism to deal with the euro crisis and what we see in the housing market is a direct result of that,” Hartwich said.

“So money is generated, it has to find a safe haven and therefore it goes into property. Not just into property, you can also see it in the German stock market. The stock market last week went through the 9,000 barrier. That’s money that just needs to find a place to be invested rather than staying in savings accounts where it doesn’t yield any interest anymore in the eurozone,” Hartwich said.

“For the same reason money is flowing into Switzerland. The Swiss National Bank is fighting the appreciation of the Swiss franc. I don’t think that has anything to do really structurally with the responsiveness, the price responsiveness, of the German or the Swiss property market. It really has everything to do with the euro crisis.”

http://www.interest.co.nz/property/67118/nz-initiatives-oliver-hartwich-argues-cure-rather-merely-pain-killers-needed-housing-

It just lets you see what it shows you doesn’t it!?
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November 3, 2013 9:07am
mandk

Another example of how Labour are really on top of the issues exercising the populace.
I’m sure people on Struggle Street talk of nothing else.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9356094/Labour-agrees-vote-on-Queen
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November 3, 2013 9:09am
hj

NZ Initiative’s Hartwhich on housing affordability and supply panadea Part 2.

He does have some good points about funding:

Hartwich and his colleagues come to the conclusion that the big difference between Germany and Switzerland’s housing markets on the one hand, and much of the English speaking world’s on the other, was in local government finance.

“And that’s where I think New Zealand has lessons to learn.”

“We should make sure that when it comes to development, the costs and benefits occur at the same level of government,” Hartwich said. “The bulk of all taxes generated go to Wellington, but the costs are often borne by local government.”

that is blindingly obvious. The public hear (constantly) about thge welfare bill but what if (say) you live in the country, and an Aucklander buys the plot next door. Suppose it was your responsibility to pay for his septic tank, fences and build an extra class room for the local school?
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November 3, 2013 9:14am
hj

Edit NZ Initiative’s Hartwhich on housing affordability and supply panadea

So we need to be made aware of the infrastructure costs associated with population growth from offshore – except that that would embarrass the political consensus.

One thing Hartwich misses is income levels vesa vi Germany, Nz and ability to provide infrastructure.
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November 3, 2013 9:19am
nickb

Is free healthcare a basic human right?

Out of all the left wing bias shown in our MSM, in my opinion Jack Tame is the most overtly biased towards left wing causes (the Democrats now he is TVNZ’s US correspondent).

Jack, while you are at it, can you please tell me why fining poor people for not obtaining health insurance is helping them obtain healthcare?

As far as I can see Obamacare is a massive transfer of wealth from the US poor. middle classes and small business owners to corporations.

His whole argument (along with the argument of many of Kiwiblog’s uninformed) also seems to be premised on the fact that people in America were dying in the streets pre-Obama due to unaffordable healthcare.

In reality nothing could be further from the truth. Seems like too many people have been watching Michael Moore movies. The US spends more on healthcare than any other country in the world.
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November 3, 2013 9:29am
flipper

hj…..,

Do you not know that Hatwich and Bassett will publish the definitive part 3 on November 18?

Clearly not.

So take your socialist, control fetish and stick up Cun*life’s burqua.
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November 3, 2013 9:32am
hj

duggledog (651) Says:

“Should be trying to curb pay inequality”

That’s the key line. The woman really is a communist
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It depends what you want to achieve. If you want to be an individualist, live in your castle, throw open the castle door and gallop through the masses, or be part of a cohesive whole with a common goal (more like Japan). People have lived for hundreds of thousands of years in social groups with common bonds and a common goal , even though they may have had a hierarchy of reward. That’s why relative wealth is more important than absolute wealth (beyond a certain point).
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November 3, 2013 9:34am
hj

flipper (2,689) Says:
November 3rd, 2013 at 9:32 am

hj…..,

Do you not know that Hatwich and Basset will publish the definitive part 3 on November 18?
…………

That will be better?
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November 3, 2013 9:35am
hj

The point is if a country has a strong economy (Germany build tanks, trucks busses etc and is in the heart of Europe) so it has a strong tax base to provide infrastructure for a growing population whereas NZ’s “needed skills” is a part-truth as much of the “needed skills” are perpetuated by an immigration sugar rush- farming, forestry, fisheries and cheap mass tourism are the back bone.
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November 3, 2013 9:44am
jcuk

Nick B … you are barking up a gum tree and obviously know nothing about American Health Care.
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November 3, 2013 9:45am
nickb

Thanks for that strong rebuttal jcuk. You are clearly an expert yourself with that repartee.

Want to maybe reply with some Michael Moore quote at least?
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November 3, 2013 9:47am
hj

Oh dear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Pacific Ocean is now warming 15 times faster than it used to

t’s conservatives’ favorite science-denying talking point: that global warming has slowed down, or even stopped altogether, over the last 15 years. It’s bogus, of course. Read Chris Mooney’s great feature for a full breakdown of how the myth has been spread. (Among other dishonest shenanigans, conservatives are using 1998 as their baseline because it was an unusually warm year due to El Niño.)

But there is a grain of truth to it: Average global surface-air temperatures have been rising at a slower rate than some climate scientists projected. A reason, as a new study published in Science on Thursday helps demonstrate, is that the oceans have been absorbing much of the heat.

The fact that the oceans are warming has already been established. As Grist’s John Upton explained earlier this year, previous studies have measured oceanic temperatures every year for the last few decades and demonstrated that the oceans are warming.

http://grist.org/climate-energy/the-pacific-ocean-is-now-warming-15-times-faster/

Lomborg needs to do wee wee on that (watering down rather than out right denial) is the best strategy.
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November 3, 2013 9:48am
hj

More on land supply:

since the late 1960s, the federal government has been promoting the construction of homes in flood-vulnerable coastal areas through the National Flood Insurance Program. Under the NFIP, taxpayers subsidize the costs of insuring homes in flood-prone neighborhoods. The program has led to the demolition of coastal habitats and the construction of flood-vulnerable homes is coastal areas around the country.

Fortunately, lawmakers came to understand the folly of the nation’s ways. Last year, by a 412 to 18 margin, Congress did something unusual: It passed a bill that went on to become law. The bill started raising flood insurance rates to something resembling market prices.

Unfortunately, now Congress wants to backtrack. Seems members didn’t comprehend the scale of the problem they were trying to fix. The issue of unsuitable homes built on flood plains is so entrenched that the new law led to severe economic impacts for homeowners who were forced to foot greater shares of the insurance bills needed to protect their properties.

http://grist.org/news/congress-backtracking-on-law-that-aimed-to-reduce-flood-risks/

“Wha back in Houston Tx….”
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November 3, 2013 9:53am
Manolo

NZ can only blame itself if socialist Labour wins the election and bankrupts the nation. It is that simple.
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November 3, 2013 10:08am
hj

More on Land Supply on TV3 The Nation

Government betting super-duper earthquake won’t happen on their watch, therefore sit on the knowledge.
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November 3, 2013 10:13am
wiseowl

Labour are monitoring this blog and are working on banning the last drink.
It causes too much trouble.
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November 3, 2013 10:29am
backster

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bVAl73JvLM (30sec) Now I understand how Helen Clark managed to straighten her teeth and sparkle her eyes.
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November 3, 2013 10:59am
Colville

Labour are monitoring this blog and are working on banning the last drink.

So I just need to use a bigger glass and make the first one a ripper.

“Yeah Barman…I will have a pint thanks…of Talisker ” 🙂
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November 3, 2013 11:25am
Harriet

‘Americans won’t be lamenting a finicky website. They’ll be celebrating not having to pay US$300 a week for a basic human right’

That’s absolute rubbish. Premiums are going up for most people.

Healthcare is the easiest socialist mechanism for the government to get into every American’s life – and remain there forever.

Obamacare was designed to fail as a Private Public Partnership so that it could be said that the ‘market’ doesn’t work. Thus leading to full socialist healthcare provided for by the government…..I mean…..rich pricks.
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November 3, 2013 11:36am
Harriet

hj#

Talking about housing markets……here in Aus residential house prices have gone up 1.3% – in the last month.

The last month being the first month of the Abbott government. 😎
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November 3, 2013 11:47am
Harriet

I saw that on morning tv here baxter – I walked in the lounge door and saw the end of it – the very hot bikini chic lying down – so of course I kept watching – only for them to immediatly return to what she looked like at first…..it wrecked what was starting out as a very good day! 😎
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November 3, 2013 11:54am
cha

Best Fletch and company schedule a cuppa and a wee lie down.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9356046/Elder-learns-Te-Reo-to-translate-Koran
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November 3, 2013 12:06pm
Fletch

cha, that’s all we need 🙄
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November 3, 2013 12:12pm
Harriet

“…….Islam’s holy book, the Koran, has been translated into Maori by an 81-year-old Pakistani physicist.
“It took six or seven years to learn Maori,” translator Shakil Ahmad Monir said yesterday at its launch at the new Baitul Muqeet mosque – the country’s largest, with a capacity of 700 – in Homai, Auckland………..”

Meanwhile in Australia’s prisons the hardline Muslims have been seperated from the Aboriginals since Howard was in office.

For security reasons. Not prison security but National security!
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November 3, 2013 12:14pm
kowtow

Koran translated into Maori….how nice.

Wonder when it will be translated into a work of tolerance ,peace and respect for others?
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November 3, 2013 12:16pm
Kea

Yes how awful. Those “intolerant” Muslims 🙂

Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
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November 3, 2013 12:23pm
kowtow

wiseowl .labour and drinks.Tad ironic the Sale + Supply of Alcohol Act 2012 took effect on june 18.Passed presumably by this parliament.

It means that alcohol can be restricted when kids are about……like at a school fair!

http://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/279308/liquor-licence-refusal-precedent-principal
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November 3, 2013 12:23pm
Left Right and Centre

So – you don’t want the socialist Labour Party, but you do want the socialist National Party?

Red might be a fucktard but he’s probably right – they’re all the same now trying to get middle voters into bed.

Two cheeks on the same arse. mmhmm
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November 3, 2013 12:24pm
cha

I noted the trend a few years ago and the proselytizer himself showed up on KB in 2004.

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/11/general_debate_4_november_2010.html#comment-762261

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2009/02/nzer_arrested_at_al_qaeda_stronghold.html#comment-532720

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2004/10/a_jihad_for_tino_rangatiratanga.html#comment-109928
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November 3, 2013 12:24pm
Kea

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
But if this charge is true (that she wasn’t a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father’s house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

Kill Followers of Other Religions.
1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

Death for Blasphemy
One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD’s name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother’s name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD’s will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, “Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD’s name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD’s name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
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November 3, 2013 12:25pm
Fletch

To be honest, are there many (any?) Maori who don’t speak English and who need books actually translated into Maori?
I don’t see it. Seems to me the guy spent 8 years of his life learning a language that is practically dead. A novelty language, anyway.

He may as well have translated it into Klingon.
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November 3, 2013 12:30pm
Left Right and Centre

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH……… RELIGION…… FAAAARK – NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck shit arse cunt fuck cunt fuck

And not on a Sunday – please. Take the day off mate.
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November 3, 2013 12:32pm
Kea

Top Ten Signs You’re a Fundamentalist Christian

10 – You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

9 – You feel insulted and “dehumanized” when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

8 – You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

7 – Your face turns purple when you hear of the “atrocities” attributed to Allah, but you don’t even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in “Exodus” and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in “Joshua” including women, children, and trees!

6 – You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5 – You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

4 – You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs — though excluding those in all rival sects – will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most “tolerant” and “loving.”

3 – While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in “tongues” may be all the evidence you need to “prove” Christianity.

2 – You define 0.01% as a “high success rate” when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1 – You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history – but still call yourself a Christian.
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November 3, 2013 12:33pm
Fletch

I haven’t mentioned anything about religion at all…lol
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November 3, 2013 12:34pm
nickb

There you go Kea… starting religious flamewars again.

FFS is it too much to ask for even one day without GD becoming a Muhammad v Jesus slugfest?
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November 3, 2013 12:36pm
Kea

Fletch, I am bringing gods word to the masses today 🙂

Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)

If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

[What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer: God.]
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November 3, 2013 12:37pm
kowtow

kea’s here and his/her mate left right and cuntard

troll time.
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November 3, 2013 12:37pm
Left Right and Centre

iKea – I love you brother – but SHUT THE FUCK UP CUNT!!!!!! 🙂 😉
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November 3, 2013 12:38pm
Fletch

I gotta get ready for work.
I will leave Kea to get herself into a lather on her own. I’m sure I’ve tried to explain this before, but it’s as pointless as taking your pants off to fart. She has her views and that’s that. 🙂
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November 3, 2013 12:39pm
Left Right and Centre

left right and cuntard 🙂 🙂

Ah fuck – that’s a good one. What else can you do with it?

You miserable fucking sad git!! How are the ragheads today mate? Keeping a good eye on them scouring the entire internet for their evil wrongdoing? Sounds like a fun way to go to the grave… going tsk tsk at their mischief :).
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November 3, 2013 12:42pm
kowtow

“intolerant muslims” says troll kea.

Quite.

A brief summary of today’s headlines from the religion of peace…..from Al Jazeera no less.

2 French journos shot
dozens killed in yemen sectarian fights
iranian journo jailed
Malala ,featured again….you know the girl shot by the Taliban

kea can quote from 3 thousand year old and older texts…..it’s today that counts.
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November 3, 2013 12:46pm
Kea

LRC, I thought the resident god nutters would be happy with me quoting the prefect word of god, but strangely it is not going down well. I wonder if kowtow screams “troll” at the priest when he quotes the good book.

How is the running going ? I just spent a month up in Auckland. I went running around One Tree Hill to keep the fitness up.
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November 3, 2013 12:47pm
Don the Kiwi

“Fletch, I am bringing gods word to the masses today :)”

Trouble is Kea,

Its the Old Testament – the old law which has been superceded.

Quotes from Leviticus , deutoronomy etc. are largely irrelevant to today’s Christians.
They are there to find out what happened back then – its different under the New Covenant.

(But I’m probably wasting my time – last comment of a religious nature today from me)
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November 3, 2013 12:48pm
Kea

kea can quote from 3 thousand year old and older texts…..it’s today that counts.

Yes indeed.

The worlds biggest christian country is killing, invading and destroying muslim countries all over the world as we speak.
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November 3, 2013 12:51pm
thedavincimode

kea’s here and his/her mate left right and cuntard

The force of Jesus’ love is strong in the phoney Christian on this Sabbath.

Did you trundle along to indulge your hypocrisy this morning kowtow? Did you snivel and pray and lie to God, your priest and others in the congregation? Did you lie to yourself? Did you tell yourself that you are walking the path of righteousness and congratulate yourself on your devotion to Jesus and his message?
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November 3, 2013 12:54pm
Redbaiter

“How is the running going ?”

WTF gives you two narcissistic fairy trolls to use GD for personal communication when everyone else uses email?/

FFS..!!

So ignorant and ill mannered.
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November 3, 2013 12:55pm
thedavincimode

FFS is it too much to ask for even one day without GD becoming a Muhammad v Jesus slugfest?

It would seem so.
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November 3, 2013 12:56pm
Kea

Don the Kiwi, ok so out goes the Ten Commandments and the entire foundation of the New Testament.

Or are you going to invoke special pleading again ?

You seem like a decent bloke. Why are you not able to bring yourself to condemn those things ?
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November 3, 2013 12:56pm
Left Right and Centre

Warning/ disclaimer: non-political teenage chatroom shit/ trademe messageboard style internet social interaction:

Thanks for asking; today is extremely exciting because around 4pm I’m expecting to run my circuit with a fellow humanoid. Still running… on track for 4 015kms in 2013 which equates to 11kms every single ding dong day. Up to around 3 400 something now. I did 15, 5 and 5 yesterday. I worked out that to get 11kms per day I only needed to do an extra 15kms for 4 015 instead of 4 000. What’s 15kms? Might as well. And I was pissed off that my weight went up. So I cracked them out in pristine champagne weather. I couldn’t do much else after that effort. I’ve got a red commie prog forehead.

A month in Auckland? Traffic snarl up? 🙂

You give it to the godnutters fella. Your knowledge makes you as nutty as they are… hahahahaha….
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November 3, 2013 12:57pm
Redbaiter

Oh gawd, now the Vaseline boy is here full of the usual intolerance hate and bile.

Why don’t you and Chutney Chute Guy go on a long holiday to the middle east?
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November 3, 2013 12:58pm
thedavincimode

Ooo! ‘baity’s been allowed out to play!

So ignorant and ill mannered.

… and the self-parody is away to a flying start as well!!
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November 3, 2013 12:58pm
Left Right and Centre

Ikea – it’s a huge compliment that we’re not ripcoded by the great one for our many transgressions.
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November 3, 2013 1:00pm
thedavincimode

full of the usual intolerance hate and bile.

LOL, you bring tears to my eyes Russell.
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November 3, 2013 1:00pm
Yvette

Labour’s KIWIASSURE
think of trying to get ACC to honour full replacement on your house
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November 3, 2013 1:01pm
Kea

LRC, are you doing 5k in 15 minutes ?

That is pretty good going.

How fast you run 5k in Red ? 🙂
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November 3, 2013 1:01pm
thedavincimode

El Guava would never run. He will stand and fight to his dying breath and only then will the M60 be wrenched from his cold dead hands.
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November 3, 2013 1:04pm
Redbaiter

I’d ask LRC what he thinks the word “debate” (as in General Debate) means and to explain how it applies to the vain personal stories that are his speciality, but it would probably just be more wasted effort. With such a thick layer of narcissism isolating him from reality, he’s virtually impervious to criticism of any kind.
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November 3, 2013 1:05pm
Kea

Ikea – it’s a huge compliment that we’re not ripcoded by the great one for our many transgressions.

Red loves us. That is why he hangs out here and not on his very own hate site. Progs, Liberals, Socialists, Runners, Homos, Muslims, Atheists, Coloured folk, all give Red his sense of identity and help define him.
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November 3, 2013 1:05pm
nasska

Time to pull on your red & blue pyjamas with the big “S” on the chest Baity…..are you ready to unleash the fury of caps lock?

That’ll show the progs that you mean business. 🙂
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November 3, 2013 1:08pm
Redbaiter

Oh the tired old queer is still trying to push his feeble and witless “El Guava’ appellation. Not seen since the last time he was here with his typical non-argumentative personally focused shit.
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November 3, 2013 1:08pm
thedavincimode

So Russell, you’d prefer to see more debate along the lines of your opener at 12.55 and the even more intellectual follow-up at 12.58?
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November 3, 2013 1:09pm
Kea

Trouble is Kea,

Its the Old Testament – the old law which has been superceded.

Here is what JESUS said about that.

5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
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November 3, 2013 1:11pm
Redbaiter

Oh, gawd its a regular queer fest to day, with yellow back Nasska feeling all sprightly now his bosom buddy the Vaseline boy has turned up. Get ready for another exhibition of outrageously off putting crawling and suckholing folks. We’re about to be swamped in the rank hypocrisy of his gratuitous smiley faces.
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November 3, 2013 1:11pm
thedavincimode

That is why he hangs out here and not on his very own hate site.

Wrong actually. He hangs out here because nobody goes to his tatty little hate site. He’s vying with the bludger magpie for the country’s bottom ranking.
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November 3, 2013 1:12pm
thedavincimode

Oh, gawd its a regular queer fest to day, with yellow back Nasska feeling all sprightly now his bosom buddy the Vaseline boy has turned up. Get ready for another exhibition of outrageously off putting crawling and suckholing folks. We’re about to be swamped in the rank hypocrisy of his gratuitous smiley faces.

Giving us all an example of the style and standard of debate that we can only hope to aspire to.
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November 3, 2013 1:14pm
Redbaiter

“you’d prefer to see more debate”

Of course I would, but once one issue obsessed personally focused hate merchants like you and your queer buddy Nasska show up you can kiss goodbye to any chance of that.

Its non stop anti-Christian hate and bile from whoa to go.
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November 3, 2013 1:14pm
Kea

thedavincimode , yes but Red is the self proclaimed spearhead/vanguard of a great movement that will rise up and wipe progs off the face of the earth.

In a tolerant christian way of course 🙂
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November 3, 2013 1:15pm
Left Right and Centre

iKea – nah – 15km run, 5km lap, 5km lap. If I can motor a single lap under 20 mins – for me 15km/h for a 5km lap is top speed. And a rarity. As rare as a pleasant post by steady reddy.
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November 3, 2013 1:16pm
nasska

Baity had a brief window of comparative lucidity the other day Davinci, when the demons in his head decided to have a bit of shuteye.

Out of the fug of his mind came this gem:

….” The change will come not from one Redbaiter but from millions. Already they are speaking out everywhere across the globe.”…..

What do you make of this? Has he been cloned? Who can we turn to for help? 🙂
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November 3, 2013 1:17pm
thedavincimode

Its non stop anti-Christian hate and bile from whoa to go.

Well, it certainly makes a change from the pro-Christian hate and bile from your little bum boys kowtow et al. Lends the debate more balance by enabling both sides of the argument to be considered don’t you think?
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November 3, 2013 1:18pm
Kea

Its non stop anti-Christian hate and bile from whoa to go.

Look above and see who started attacking religion first you two faced little runt.

Day after day after day your gimp kowtow attacks religion and you say nothing.
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November 3, 2013 1:18pm
Redbaiter

“Baity had a brief window of comparative lucidity the other day Davinci,”

He’s reaching out to you Vassy boy. Make sure you respond to his sickening smug obsequious crawling, otherwise next time he sees you it will be handbags at ten paces.
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November 3, 2013 1:19pm
Kea

nasska, that will be why the Conservatives are now polling at 00000000.7% LOL 🙂
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November 3, 2013 1:20pm
thedavincimode

nasska

He should change doctors. Seems like a classic case of over-prescribing. Or under-prescribing. Not sure which.
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November 3, 2013 1:20pm
nasska

It’s a disgrace Davinci….you’d think they’d have it right by now. 🙂
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November 3, 2013 1:22pm
Redbaiter

Four sec progs against one Conservative.

One a gutless crawler.

The other a sick obsessive.

Yet another a worthless troll.

And the fourth a self obsessed clueless prog whose so politically ignorant he thinks Jimmy Carter was the best Prime Minister the UK ever had.

Odds are almost equal.
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November 3, 2013 1:22pm
Kea

Red is the most popular commentor on the internet, he tells us. Tho since he stopped using a proxy to vote himself up, there has been little evidence of that popularity. 😉

How did you set that up anyway Red ? Do you come from an IT background ?
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November 3, 2013 1:24pm
Yvette

Kea – 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 22:37-40
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

So where now?
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November 3, 2013 1:24pm
Redbaiter

Anyone notice how much more volume Nasska puts out when his mates the Vaseline boy and Troll Central are about?

On his own he fades like marijuana smoke in high wind.

Typical personality trait of a coward.
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November 3, 2013 1:26pm
lilman

Kea – sitting, watching,waiting ,slow day today,waiting ,watching.

There it is a Muslim post.

YYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

Love it ,love it,love it.

OOOOHHHHHH yes…….

God botherer.

Piss off,you bore me.
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November 3, 2013 1:27pm
Kea

Yvette, buggered if I know. And that is the problem. The bible can be used to justify anything, so really is no help at all and is most certainly not a source of morality.
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November 3, 2013 1:28pm
thedavincimode

We’re paying for it nasska, so we should expect them to get it right. Although it may well be that he needs a proprietary ingredient that pharmawotsit won’t provide. Likely some extremely powerful anti-psychotic brew only required to treat one in a million diagnosed with his disorder.
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November 3, 2013 1:28pm
thedavincimode

Four sec progs against one Conservative.

Just the way you like eh Russ? You’re at your best when the chips are down, the odds look hopeless.
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November 3, 2013 1:31pm
Kea

thedavincimode, narcissistic personality disorders, like Reds, are notoriously resistant to therapy. The best they can do is manage the patient and prevent him from harming others.
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