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Jack5

I read in today’s Christchurch Press that Ngai Tahu have settled a multi-million-dollar claim with the police over the Christchurch central police station, abandoned as unsafe because of earthquake damage.

The tribe and the police are reported to have reached a confidential agreement over Ngai Tahu’s claim based on five years of rent owed by the police for the building the tribe owned. The claim related to the period until the lease for the unusable building was to expire.

You wouldn’t mind, if Ngai Tahu paid tax like other property developers and businesses.
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November 30, 2013 2:15pm
nickb

maybe ill watch the dirty dozen, been a long time since i saw that

Wolf of Wall Street is out at the cinemas next month too. Guna be insane!
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November 30, 2013 2:16pm
Manolo

Yeah, baby: http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/end-presidential-term-limits/2013/11/28/50876456-561e-11e3-ba82-16ed03681809_print.html
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November 30, 2013 2:25pm
cha

A novel way to chuck Weegies out of the boozer.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-25163045
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November 30, 2013 2:26pm
cha

Ronnie Raygun thought it was a good idea Manolo.

http://archives.nbclearn.com/portal/site/k-12/flatview?cuecard=3066
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November 30, 2013 2:29pm
Kea

Funny how the msm keeps banging on about, presidential term limits, now their black president is in office. There was not much mention of it when Bush was in power.
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November 30, 2013 2:39pm
cha

So you’ll be linking to all this banging on?.
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November 30, 2013 2:42pm
DJP6-25

hj 12.14 Delete the word Polynesians, and replace it with the phrase working class, or lower class, or decile 1-3. The values and assumptions of these groups are quite similar. So are the outcomes.
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November 30, 2013 2:43pm
thedavincimode

cha

Is Dental & Gum Hygiene in 3D?
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November 30, 2013 2:44pm
Kea

cha, no.

I assume other readers have a search engine.

Have an adult show you how, or someone who is not trying to demonstrate how “liberal” they are by supporting an ignorant black war mongering incompetent sack of shit who should be hung for his crimes.

I hope that helps.
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November 30, 2013 2:49pm
Scott Chris

Kiwis @ $3.30 head to head on TAB.

Those seem like reasonable odds to me. I suspect the Aussis will be under-prepared.

And say what you like about SBW but I think he may make the difference both in his playing ability and the confidence he instils in his team-mates.
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November 30, 2013 2:53pm
thedavincimode

dime

was thinking more 60′s war movies

Some older classics:

The Longest Day
Guns of Navarone
Where Eagles Dare
Lawrence of Arabia
Ice Cold in Alex
Bridge on the River Kwai
Battle of Britain (very early 70s)
The Eagle Has Landed (mid 70s?)
Apocalypse Now (mid/late 70s?)
A Bridge Too Far (80s?)
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November 30, 2013 2:58pm
cha

If dime’s half the cocksman we think he is TDVM Dental & Gum Hygiene in 3D would be appropriate.

http://www.nature.com/news/hpv-sex-cancer-and-a-virus-1.14194
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November 30, 2013 3:07pm
Kea

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7-hHCzJ5R8
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November 30, 2013 3:08pm
cha

But he’s a gentleman isn’t he.

http://youtu.be/O_BCDzJA69E
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November 30, 2013 3:09pm
cha

Yeah yeah, we all know you’re a fan of racial purity.
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November 30, 2013 3:11pm
Kea

cha, no I am a fan of mixing it up. I am the biggest race traitor you are ever likely to meet.

Where you and I differ is I hold people to the same standards, even if they look a bit more like their black dad than their white mum.
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November 30, 2013 3:18pm
Manolo

Race and skin colour do not matter. What counts is the grey matter between the ears and the education received to train such valuable asset.
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November 30, 2013 3:21pm
Kea

Manolo, It matters to Jews and it matters a lot. Though to point that out is “racist”. Confused ?

Obama is where he is because of skin colour. He got a Nobel Prize for skin colour. He is supported by the left on skin colour. He campaigned on skin colour.

It is Obama’s supporters your comment should be directed at.
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November 30, 2013 3:25pm
Manolo

The reality of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGeWMPFlGlY
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November 30, 2013 3:37pm
nasska

Just in case you don’t have anything lined up for tonight Kea. 🙂

Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/yaooyf4b4tqz90p/Doll%2010.png
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November 30, 2013 3:50pm
Kea

Manolo, be fair.

Obama has kept his promise to his campaign donors, for the most expensive election campaign in human history. He bailed out the financial institutions and still had trillions to spend on killing muslims, with enough left over to gift billions every year to Israel.

Not surprising when you consider the money thrown at him by Jewish lobby groups, including those who are Israeli citizens. This would be no issue, were he elected president of Israel.
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November 30, 2013 3:53pm
Kea

nasska, stop posting photos of my sister on the internet 🙂

This one is more my style.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/918iw0m2ro4btq1/237938_929ca_fuck.jpg
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November 30, 2013 3:56pm
nasska

She expresses my sentiments rather well too Kea. 🙂
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November 30, 2013 4:00pm
Kea

nasska, and she will still have dinner on when you get home.
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November 30, 2013 4:02pm
Pauleastbay

like the maori playing for the england league side. WTF
Dime
Tin, its that simple – you pay me more I work (play) for you- god bless the free market economy or should we restrict labour?// don’t like where this is heading
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November 30, 2013 4:14pm
thedavincimode

cha

A compelling case for the no frills approach.
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November 30, 2013 4:15pm
Pauleastbay

Dime

Bridge on the River Kwai – watch and then tell us how you much you wanted Alec Guiness to suffer
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November 30, 2013 4:23pm
dime

paul – not saying anything about there choices being restricted. just that some of them are cunts for jumping ship.

cheers for the movie ideas too boys
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November 30, 2013 4:34pm
Pete George

Most of the Green Executive decision to give David Hay the boot as a candidate seems fair enough considering timing of the process, but it should be a concern that they are openly siding with one leadership candidate over another.

“Russel Norman is doing an outstanding job as our Co-leader. The Green Party executive is extremely happy with his performance and we fully support his leadership,” said Georgina Morrison.

https://www.greens.org.nz/press-releases/green-party-decision-david-hay-s-application-be-candidate-2014-election
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November 30, 2013 4:35pm
Reid

“Russel Norman is doing an outstanding job as our Co-leader.”

Snigger.
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November 30, 2013 4:58pm
RAS

Kea you’re posting bullshit videos by David Duke? WTF is wrong with you?
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November 30, 2013 5:16pm
iMP

Booths close at 7pm in by-election. What to look for.

http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2013/11/30/christchurch-east-by-election-what-to-look-for/
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November 30, 2013 6:25pm
big bruv

One can only hope that the lame press in NZ see this move by the Greens for what it is and stop regurgitating the bullshit line about the Greens being democratic.

The Gweens are the LEAST democratic party in NZ. They rorted the party list to get Wussel Norman into the house so he could campaign with our money and now they have banned a member who dared speak out against the leader.

The lame press would also do well to look at Gween party policy, very little of it is democratic, take the anti smacking bill for a start, 87% of the people in NZ are against it yet they rammed it through. The long list of things the Gweens want banned is also not democratic.

They are dictators, it is time the press called them for what they are.
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November 30, 2013 6:30pm
Kea

RAS, I notice you attacked the messenger and not the content. I take it then you must acknowledge the truth of the content, as you would have said so if you had any evidence to refute it.

You can find many videos of religious Jews highly critical of Israel. If that makes you feel better. Remember, it is about who says it, not what is said.
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November 30, 2013 6:40pm
Kea

This should get you started:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0haybEo-Tx4
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November 30, 2013 6:42pm
Pete George

I notice you attacked the messenger and not the content. I take it then you must acknowledge the truth of the content, as you would have said so if you had any evidence to refute it.

A reference to apply to future Kea comments?
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November 30, 2013 6:57pm
Kea

PG, If I ever meet with your approval I will slit my wrists you little weirdo.
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November 30, 2013 7:04pm
Pete George

The Standard is still down. Greg Presland is offering his blog for Standardistas and Labourites to discuss the Christchurch east by-election:

http://waitakerenews.blogspot.co.nz/2013/11/christchurch-east-by-election.html
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November 30, 2013 7:05pm
big bruv

Has somebody hacked the Standard?…oh dear.
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November 30, 2013 7:10pm
Manolo

The UK is fucked big, big time: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2515799/Womens-fears-new-laws-maternity-returning-work-soon.html
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November 30, 2013 7:15pm
Nostradamus

Pete George:

Your first recorded contribution on Kiwiblog (as “Cerium”) was on 27 June 2009.

I see you’re now closing in on 20,000 comments.

How are you planning to celebrate?
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November 30, 2013 7:22pm
HB

Reid

UE is set to get more difficult from next year with the requirements increasing.
http://www.nzqa.govt.nz/qualifications-standards/awards/university-entrance/
scroll down to see difference.

Also, Unis are free to set their own entrance requirements on courses they offer. In fact they already do, over and above UE. So if they only like the Merit and Excellence students or prefer certain subjects they are free to make this an entrance condition.
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November 30, 2013 7:27pm
Manolo

How are you planning to celebrate?

Confining himself to his “popular” blog to push Dunne’s (lost) cause? 😀
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November 30, 2013 7:30pm
HB

My thoughts on the article http://www.nzherald.co.nz/tertiary-education/news/article.cfm?c_id=341&objectid=11164854 linked to earlier today by Reid.

One the differences between NCEA and bursary as types of assessment is how the curriculum is broken down into ‘chunks’ and each ‘chunk’ is assessed separately. Maybe students prepare for the assessment they have this week and then once passed, knowing they won’t need the info/skills again (for that course, anyway) it goes in one ear and out the other. This makes ‘room’ to focus on the next paper in their calculus course. In the old days with a bursary end of year exam worth 100% of your result you had to sustain the knowledge and skills over a longer time period, building them over a year.

Just a thought. Could be all garbage.
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November 30, 2013 7:36pm
Nostalgia-NZ

PEB;

‘and the
137 Samoans that have played for the All Blacks who turned their back on Samoa -‘

Don’t know about that figure.
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November 30, 2013 7:49pm
OneTrack

“Just a thought. Could be all garbage.”

Your comment about having to remember everything until the end of the year sounds reasonable(and better). NCEA seems to be about icking off the boxes. Not sure there is a box that ties all those fragments together into something useful for the universitie to build on.
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November 30, 2013 7:50pm
Steve (North Shore)

The Standard is still down. Greg Presland is offering his blog for Standardistas and Labourites to discuss the Christchurch east by-election:

Who fucking cares Pete? Are you so desperate to see the ‘Strandard’ up and running because you might be losing viewers of your sitting on the fence bullshit?
You pathetic attention seeker you
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November 30, 2013 7:59pm
nasska

An elderly man lay dying in his bed. While suffering agonies on his way to his final moment, he suddenly smells the aroma of his favourite scones wafting up the stairs.

He gathered his remaining strength, and lifted himself from the bed. Leaning on the wall, he slowly made his way out of the bedroom, gripping the wall; he slowly makes it to the kitchen.

There, piled on a tray are his favourite scones. Was it heaven? Or was it one final act of love from his devoted Scottish wife of sixty years, seeing to it that he left this world a happy man?

Mustering one great final effort, he threw himself towards the table, landing on his knees in rumpled posture.

His aged and withered hand trembled towards a scone at the edge of the table, when it was suddenly smacked by his wife with a wooden spoon.

“Fuck off!!” she said… “they’re for the funeral”.
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November 30, 2013 8:00pm
Viking2

Two old ladies were outside their nursing home having a smoke, when it started to rain. One of the ladies pulled out a condom, cut off the end, put it over her cigarette, and continued smoking.

Lady 1: What’s that?

Lady 2: A condom.

Lady 1: Where’d you get it?

Lady 2: You can get them at any drugstore.

The next day, the first lady hobbled into the local drugstore and announced to the pharmacist that she wanted to buy a package of condoms.

The guy looked at her kind of strangely (she was, after all, in her 80s), but politely asked what brand she preferred.

“Doesn’t matter,” she replied, “as long as it fits a Camel.”
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November 30, 2013 8:06pm
Viking2

This will challange your mind.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/i5gK2MxGR0M?feature=player_detailpage
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November 30, 2013 8:14pm
Viking2

Zookeeper Friedrich Riesfeldt ( Paderborn , Germany ) fed his
constipated elephant 22 doses of animal laxative and more than
a bushel of berries, figs and prunes before the plugged-up
pachyderm finally got relief. Investigators say ill-fated
Friedrich, 46, was attempting to give the ailing elephant an
olive oil enema when the relieved beast unloaded.

The sheer force of the elephant’s unexpected defecation knocked
Mr Riesfeldt to the ground where he struck his head on a rock
as the elephant continued to evacuate 200 pounds of dung on top
of him. It seems to be just one of those freak accidents that
proves… ‘Shit happens’
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November 30, 2013 8:16pm
Viking2

After stepping around a marked police patrol car parked at the
front door, a man walked into H&J Leather & Firearms intent on
robbing the store. The shop was full of customers and a
uniformed officer was standing at the counter. Upon seeing the
officer, the would-be robber announced a hold-up and fired a
few wild shots from a target pistol.

The officer and a clerk promptly returned fire, and several
customers also drew their guns and fired. The robber was
pronounced dead at the scene by Paramedics. Crime scene
investigators located 47 expended cartridge cases in the shop.
The subsequent autopsy revealed 23 gunshot wounds. Ballistics
identified rounds from 7 different weapons. No one else was
hurt.
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November 30, 2013 8:17pm
nickb

dime

Kiwis paying $3.30.

Worth 50 bucks?
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November 30, 2013 8:20pm
Viking2

Amazing
11/14/13
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Avril Simmons
We’re Hiring!

Advertisers Should Just Quit. Nothing Will Ever Top This Volvo Commercial
1415291

This makes me want to sell my house and buy a Volvo truck.

The latest Volvo commercial is going viral for good reason. Action star Jean-Claude Van Damme takes his 53 year-old body to the next level to showcase Volvo’s Dynamic Steering System. The stunt is in fact real. A Volvo rep confirmed that the spot was done in just one take, and if the actor had gotten a leg cramp while filming, he would have been protected by plenty of safety lines that were not visible in the final video. He also was aided by small platforms on the trucks’ side mirrors that helped prop up his feet. But none of this takes away from the badassery of doing a perfect split between two massive moving vehicles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10
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November 30, 2013 8:20pm
nasska

“Who are we?”
“Women!”
“What do we want?”
“We don’t know!”
“When do we want it?”
“Now!”
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November 30, 2013 8:20pm
Pete George

An easy win for Labour’s Poto Williams with a 4,613 majority but on a very low turnout – less than half the votes (13,318) than a low turnout general election in 2011 (28,524).

Details, also with 2011 electorate results – http://yournz.org/2013/11/30/christchurch-east-by-election/
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November 30, 2013 8:23pm
Viking2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lncwRnV4Gsg&feature=m-ch-fea&app=desktop
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November 30, 2013 8:29pm
iMP

By-ELECTION: Lab. wins 61%, Nats 26%. Conservatives 3.65% (4th). ACT got same vote as Legalise Cannabis and came 6th-7th equal.

http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2013/11/30/provisional-result-chch-east-by-election-30-nov-2013/
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November 30, 2013 8:31pm
Judith

@ nasska (8,211) Says:
November 30th, 2013 at 8:20 pm

ohhhh, someone is feeling very brave tonight!!

I wonder if I should send a copy of that post to Mrs Nasska!!
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November 30, 2013 8:31pm
dime

Nick – nup lol never bet on the kiwis or the warriors..

bet on aussie? insurance?
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November 30, 2013 8:32pm
Judith

@ iMP (1,792) Says:
November 30th, 2013 at 8:31 pm

All this mornings news reports had the Nat candidate doing very well. Goes to show the media no stuff all about anything.

I think it is a predictable result, however, it is worrying that not many people voted. It would be interesting to find out whether it was because people felt it was a forgone conclusion, or whether NZer just don’t care anymore?
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November 30, 2013 8:38pm
nasska

Blackmail Judith? 🙂
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November 30, 2013 8:39pm
Pete George

It would be interesting to find out whether it was because people felt it was a forgone conclusion, or whether NZer just don’t care anymore?

A mix of both. It doesn’t help when TV coverage is more interested in chemtrails than candidates or voters. Perhaps the World Government have been spraying an Apathetic drug.
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November 30, 2013 8:43pm
nasska

There was never going to be much of a turnout to a mid term election with a predictable result which could have no influence on the make up of parliament.

2014 will be a completely different story.
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November 30, 2013 8:43pm
Nostalgia-NZ

Losing Pritchard is a biggie, but I think the relatively unheralded Frank Paul Nu’uausala could prove to be a surprise in this game. Hargreaves is due a big one after ‘bathing’ in the glory of his aspirations of possibly being an All Black only to get buried by the pommie forwards – we will see what he is made of after big noting and turning in a shitter of a game. The Kiwi forwards got done over last week for all the talk about their pack, hopefully did them good to get dished up a towelling – now’s the time we will see how much fortitude they have in which to dig.
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November 30, 2013 8:52pm
OneTrack

Shock Labour win in CHC East. Major upset. Who would have expected that?

FFS.
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November 30, 2013 8:59pm
dime

Hargreaves worries me. how many match turning penalties will he give away?
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November 30, 2013 9:05pm
Nostalgia-NZ

He needs to be totally controlled. His enthusiasm for himself can easily divert his strengths. He got ‘knocked out’ last week and he needs to deal with that or lose.
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November 30, 2013 9:14pm
stephieboy

Obama is where he is in spite of of skin colour. He got a Nobel Prize in spite of his skin colour. He is supported by t not only the left but won two presidential races in spite of his skin and colour. He campaigned in spite of his skin colour
And John Key expressed unstinting admiration and compared himself to Obama in 2011.
There are a small cabal of Righties both here and the in the US who can’t stand the thought of a Blackman in the White House.
Move on. Get over it.!
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November 30, 2013 9:15pm
dime

stephieboy – its usually the left who bring up obamas skin colour.

personally i couldnt give two fucks. i like the guy. id have a beer with him. i also think he is a garbage president. might turn out to be worse than carter!
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November 30, 2013 9:27pm
dime

stephieboy – you seem familiar. quick google:

Nov 7: “Obama’s main problem is that there are still those around who,both in the US, here and elsewhere , can’t stand the thought of a Black family in the White House. !”

just obsessed with obama being a black dude. weird.
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November 30, 2013 9:36pm
stephieboy

Wrong Dime. Its the right fundies like you who bring up the and are worried about the colour of his skin.
Fact.!
Garbage President.?
Still getting over the ignominy and devastation of 14/11/12.?
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November 30, 2013 9:41pm
dime

when have i been the first ever to bring up his skin colour? ya fuckin weirdo

and yes, garbage president.
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November 30, 2013 9:44pm
stephieboy

“just obsessed with obama being a black dude. weird.”
Nope.!
Like a great many ( but not you evidently) the US has gained considerably in maturity and sanity to re elect a Black man twice and in spite of Birthers , Tea baggers , survivourlists , state rightists etc both here and there.
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November 30, 2013 9:51pm
Rivka

About the by-election in Christchurch East: the National party candidate’s percentage of the vote dropped 10 points from the election in 2011. That’s a fall of 27%, despite the fact that it was Aaron Gilmore standing in 2011, and despite the large numbers of traditional Labour voters leaving the electorate after the earthquakes. Not a good omen for National.
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November 30, 2013 10:26pm
kowtow

Voting for a “black President” showing maturity is bollocks.If you vote simply for a black then it simply proves you’re a racist.

What voting for Obummer shows is there’s a substantial body of left wing voters who no longer believe in the American way of independent living and want the state to intrude in every aspect of their pathetic dependant lives.

ps shit show by Notional! They’ll need Colin more than ever now.
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November 30, 2013 10:46pm
Manolo

Knifing among Luddites: http://newstalkzb.co.nz/auckland/news/nbpol/1366483091-greens-decide-not-to-accept-hay-into-candidate-pool
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