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Redbaiter

Whether you do drugs or not is hardly the point.

With the help of an endlessly inane series of smiley faced comments, you display all of the intellectual vacuity that is the real point of Huxley’s quote.
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November 1, 2013 1:50pm
RRM

As I suspected.

Just the usual empty bluster, lies and smears.

Please, tell us more about what a coward Pete George is.
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November 1, 2013 2:06pm
Harriet

“…..One problem with all of that is there is no Tea Party type movement in New Zealand and there’s no sign of one starting….”

SOoooooooooo John Key is dog whistleing the electorate to vote for the Conservatives now?

Well Mr Key, us conservatives don’t want you!

We conservatives have decided to ride out the next election and not vote at all. We want you gone. And the rest of the progs in your prog party gone too. NZ can live and suffer under Labour while National is being reformed.

After the election we conservatives are going to sign up enmass to the National Party, out number your members, and reform it. Any prog who dares to stay can do so, and they can then disgrace themselves publicly by defending their weak character and lunatic idealogy.

We are going to rename the National Party the National Conservatives and we are going to use all of it’s assets and resources to fight the disease that is destroying NZ; Big government. Weak politicians.

Conservatives are building a multi national force who’s values are timeless. Those values are not for sale or negotiation. National is now a waste of space. Everywhere.

Until then. Keep being a commie prog!

If Key needs us – then it’s on our terms!
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November 1, 2013 2:11pm
Pete George

Conservatives are building a multi national force who’s values are timeless. Those values are not for sale or negotiation.

I presume the “we conservatives” you are referring to are the Harriet/Redbaiter conservatives and not the Colin Craig Conservatives (the ones who actually have some support).

It sounds like you want to impose your own narrow ideology on everyone. Are you going to try and take over Colin Craig too? Or squeeze him out once you have taken over National?
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November 1, 2013 2:19pm
Harriet

“….It sounds like you want to impose your own narrow ideology on everyone….”

Well the truth is narrow Pete, and yes I will voice that on everyone.

Like this:

Abortion has always been, and will always be about killing baby human beings. Before abortion was legalised, it was a crime under the homicide act. The homicide act is of course, about killing human beings.
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November 1, 2013 2:23pm
Weihana

Redbaiter,

Bush with his profligate spending was the last fucking straw…

Really? So despite eight years of Bush we hear not a peep, but then as soon as Blacky McBlackMan is elected they suddenly have some concerns… and yet they opposed Bush all along… yeah, right.

Weihana, the Republican Party will be reformed into a fighting force and the Constitution will reemerge as the main political and social force in America’s culture. Its going to happen and the lies of you and a million other dumbfuck progs won’t stop it.

lol. Support for the Republican party is at historic lows and there just aren’t enough white voters to go around. The Republican party is not going to get far unless it appeals to a wider demographic.

Socialism/ Progressivism will be driven from the West.

O poor Redbaiter… you really do live on another planet. Will Medicare be gone along with socialism? Or will the oldies who make up a large chunk of the Tea Party movement prefer the government keep out of it? 🙂
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November 1, 2013 2:35pm
Kea

“Blacky McBlackMan ”

Weihana, I remember that the issue of race was played on by Obama supporters and is to this day. He is clearly held to different standards than Bush was. Is it because he is Blacky McBlackMan ?
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November 1, 2013 2:38pm
Redbaiter

“So despite eight years of Bush we hear not a peep,”

You poor misinformed leftist dupe. There was plenty of criticism of Bush, but it was drowned out by the wailing of the left. Why help the enemy? Your comment is just another example of the fact that you know nothing other than what the left have told you, and that you’re completely incapable of discriminating between truth and propaganda.

” as soon as Blacky McBlackMan is elected ”

Oh wawawawa racism. Sad leftist pawn. Just another cowardly and baseless smear that the left reach for any time there’s any real opposition. In spite of left media’s propaganda, there are plenty of black Conservatives and Tea Partiers. Not that you’d ever know it from the sources you frequent you blinkered patsy. (In fact I supported Herman Cain in the pre-selection race and so did many other Tea Party people.)

The rest is just as bad, boilerplate socialist propaganda (like so many other comments) and not worth a response. Get a brain you propaganda sucking fool.
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November 1, 2013 2:43pm
TheContrarian

“The left get enraged whenever a candidate is selected who does not meet their approval.”

It’s more like:
“Everyone gets highly amused when the GOP selects a candidate who is so hopelessly ill-informed”
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November 1, 2013 2:49pm
Weihana

Redbaiter (6,015) Says:
November 1st, 2013 at 2:43 pm

There was plenty of criticism of Bush, but it was drowned out by the wailing of the left. Why help the enemy?

But before you said:

Redbaiter (6,015) Says:
November 1st, 2013 at 12:22 pm

…our resolve is such that if it takes 10 years of Labour Govt in NZ, (or left wing govt in any other country) to reform the National Party then if that is what it takes it will be done.

So I suppose your “resolve” must have materialized when that Kenyan rose to power. 🙂
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November 1, 2013 2:51pm
Redbaiter

“so hopelessly ill-informed”

That’s rich from someone whose contributions to this forum consist entirely of repeating left media’s talking points.
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November 1, 2013 2:51pm
TheContrarian

Sure, if that’s what you think, but I ain’t running to be VP of the USA.
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November 1, 2013 2:54pm
Redbaiter

“So I suppose your “resolve” must have materialized when that Kenyan rose to power. ”

You’re hopeless. So desperate to pin the racist label on anyone who disagrees with you.

Full of left wing shit and you can’t read or comprehend either. I said that resolve has been building over many years of Republican failure but became more intense after the Bush government’s abject refusal to fight.

Re-read the third paragraph of my first comment you slow witted troll, (not that it will probably do much good) and stop wasting my time.
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November 1, 2013 2:57pm
Redbaiter

Here’s a question for all of the prog lamers here repeating boilerplate leftist shit sourced from the far left mainstream media.

What was the initial percentage of fighters in the American population who in the end repelled the might of the British Army and Navy from the shores of America?

75%

50%

25%

10%

3%

???????

Students of the NZ government’s education system and Massey University etc will need to look it up.
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November 1, 2013 3:06pm
Pete George

“You can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska.”

In the middle of the Bering Strait are two small, sparsely populated islands: Big Diomede, which sits in Russian territory, and Little Diomede, which is part of the United States. At their closest, these two islands are a little less than two and a half miles apart, which means that, on a clear day, you can definitely see one from the other. (Slate)

“You can actually see sense in Redbaiter from comments here in Kiwiblog”.

But that is about as sparse as the international acumen of Palin (and the Diomede islands).
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November 1, 2013 3:09pm
cha

3%
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November 1, 2013 3:10pm
Weihana

Redbaiter (6,018) Says:
November 1st, 2013 at 2:57 pm

…that resolve has been building over many years…

And just by happy coincidence the Tea Party movement emerges as Obama is elected… but before then… “why help the enemy” and “we’re building our resolve… it could take a few years”.

The reality is that the Tea Party is simply the same old people… a mixture of libertarianism, conservatism and populism branded together under vacuous appeals to “the constitution” and opposition to “socialism” by people too stupid to realize their own participation in the government they so vehemently oppose.
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November 1, 2013 3:18pm
Fletch

” as soon as Blacky McBlackMan is elected ”

A lefty tactic to label anyone who doesn’t agree with Obama as racist.
Really scraping the barrel now.

Color has nothing to do with it.
I’d vote for Allen West or Elbert Guillory (both of whom are African American) over Obama any day.
Heck, even Herman Cain would be better than Obama (and he had a chance before he was smeared by the left).

Obama’s just been the worst president the U.S has ever had.
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November 1, 2013 3:22pm
Weihana

Redbaiter (6,019) Says:
November 1st, 2013 at 3:06 pm

What was the initial percentage of fighters in the American population who in the end repelled the might of the British Army and Navy from the shores of America?

Students of the NZ government’s education system and Massey University etc will need to look it up.

Why would anyone want to remember such a trivial statistic?
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November 1, 2013 3:24pm
Fletch

Unbelievable. The U.S poised to lift a ban that has been in place since the 80s that prevents Libyans coming to America and training in the aviation and nuclear fields.

A draft regulation by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) would lift a 30-year-ban on Libyan nationals coming to the United States to work or train in “aviation maintenance, flight operations, or nuclear-related fields.”

The 11-page proposed rule was obtained by Reps. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) and Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah).

In a statement on his congressional website, Rep. Chaffetz said that the draft final regulation could take effect without prior notice and comment. The congressmen say the prohibition was put in place in the 1980s after the wave of terrorist incidents involving Libyans.

“The administration justifies lifting this ban by claiming that the United States’ relationship with Libya has been ‘normalized,’” the statement said.

But the congressmen also say, “the terror threat continues and numerous news reports document recent terror-related stories coming from Libya. And just over a year ago the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi was attacked, which resulted in the death of four Americans, including Ambassador Christopher Stevens.”
The draft regulation is currently entitled, “Rescinding Suspension of Enrollment for Certain F and M Nonimmigrant Students from Libya and Third Country Nationals Acting on Behalf of Libyan Entities.”

In its summary, the proposed rule states: “The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is amending its regulations by rescinding the regulatory provisions promulgated in 1983 that terminated the nonimmigrant status and barred the granting of certain immigration benefits to Libyan nationals and foreign nationals acting on behalf of Libyan entities who are engaging in or seeking to obtain studies or training in aviation maintenance, flight operations, or nuclear-related fields.”

“The United States and the Government of Libya have normalized their relationship and most of the restrictions and sanctions imposed by the United States and the United Nations toward Libya have been lifted,” the rule reads. “Therefore, DHS, after consultation with the Department of State and the Department of Defense, is rescinding the restrictions that deny nonimmigrant status and benefits to a specific group of Libyan nationals.”

WTF is wrong with these people? Seriously? Hello? Benghazi?
Are they trying to destroy their own country on purpose?
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November 1, 2013 3:26pm
Sonny Blount

TheContrarian (930) Says:
November 1st, 2013 at 2:54 pm
Sure, if that’s what you think, but I ain’t running to be VP of the USA.

Vote: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 1

Joe Biden.

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That is all.
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November 1, 2013 3:52pm
Redbaiter

“Why would anyone want to remember such a trivial statistic?”

No surprise that someone so slow witted should ask such a dumb question. It is significant by reason of the fact that so many on here collaborating with the socialist status quo are using exactly the same arguments that those who sort to remain under the thumb of British rule would have used to dissuade those who started and eventually won the War of Independence.
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November 1, 2013 3:52pm
Reid

Are they trying to destroy their own country on purpose?

Seriously, Fletch, haven’t you worked that out yet?

Why else do you think they keep doing the wrong thing, time after time after time?

What?

You think they’re just dumb?
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November 1, 2013 3:54pm
Redbaiter

“And just by happy coincidence the Tea Party movement emerges as Obama is elected… ”

Its no coincidence troll. The election of the anti-America communist Obama was the inevitable outcome of incremental Republican surrender on Constitutional principles.

The rest of your comment is opinion (fair enough) but once again just boilerplate leftist garbage sourced from the same old commie media and therefore not even worth opposing. It will write its own obituary.

You don’t have a clue.
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November 1, 2013 3:56pm
Weihana

Redbaiter (6,020) Says:
November 1st, 2013 at 3:52 pm

“Why would anyone want to remember such a trivial statistic?”

No surprise that someone so slow witted should ask such a dumb question. It is significant by reason of the fact that so many on here collaborating with the socialist status quo are using exactly the same arguments that those who sort to remain under the thumb of British rule would have used to dissuade those who started and eventually won the War of Independence.

The essential point is appreciated without having to memorize the statistic which by itself is little more than trivia. The British fighters were also a small percentage of their overall population. But these statistics are of little importance. The essential historical fact to appreciate is that the British were the strongest navy in the world while the Americans lacked a proper government and the resources the British had access to. This though was compensated by the British fighting a long way from home. Ultimately the Americans (after having won decisive battles on their own) gained considerable international support so it wasn’t entirely a solo effort.

But really, what does this have to do with you? A foul mouthed impotent buffoon on the other side of the world typing into his computer pretending to be a revolutionary… Delusions of grandeur.
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November 1, 2013 4:06pm
Redbaiter

“The essential point is appreciated”

OK, so your question was just more trolling.

“The British fighters were also a small percentage of their overall population.”

What a loon. They were the British Army you troll, with all of the resources of one of the richest and most powerful governments on the planet. As you point out in the following sentences. Best you stop troling. You’re apparently only confusing yourself.

“But really, what does this have to do with you?”

As much as it has to do with you, an ignorant troll assuming a completely unwarranted air of intellectual superiority when you’re really just a sappy poorly informed troll spouting boilerplate leftist propaganda sourced from outlets that have been past their use by date for a decade.
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November 1, 2013 4:13pm
Kea

I think Obama should hang for his crimes but only a lunatic would call him a communist.

Maybe a zionist puppet bought and paid for.

As usual Red thinks he lives in the USA as he parrots out of place conservative boiler plate without thinking.
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November 1, 2013 4:14pm
Weihana

Redbaiter (6,022) Says:
November 1st, 2013 at 4:13 pm

OK, so your question was just more trolling.

You had insinuated that anyone who had to look up the statistic had a deficient education. The point is that it is trivia and unless one intends competing on Jeopardy one hardly needs to worry about remembering such irrelevant numbers.

What a loon. They were the British Army you troll, with all of the resources of one of the richest and most powerful governments on the planet.

And that is the material point, not the statistic you highlighted.

…assuming a completely unwarranted air of intellectual superiority…

No, it’s completely warranted. 🙂
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November 1, 2013 4:25pm
cha

The impotent buffoon is apparently unaware of the alliances the revolutionaries formed with France, Spain and the Dutch.
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November 1, 2013 4:28pm
Redbaiter

“The point is that it is trivia”

A point or not (it isn’t) it is not one that has any bearing on the discussion. You were just trolling.

“No, it’s completely warranted.”

I know you believe that. Everyone of your posts drips with insufferable arrogance and condescension. Even more irritating considering your obviously limited intellect and seriously deficient general knowledge.
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November 1, 2013 4:29pm
Scott Chris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY2bWyiaei4
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November 1, 2013 4:30pm
Redbaiter

“apparently unaware”

What would you ever know about what was apparent and what wasn’t? A dumbarse who always has to quickly go and seek information out on the internet before he can offer anything on any issue.

I suspect you have lived most of your life in a cave in Outer Mongolia.
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November 1, 2013 4:31pm
Kea

Red, do you consider yourself representative of people who support the conservative right ? ( the 0.7 % )

🙂
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November 1, 2013 4:34pm
Weihana

Redbaiter (6,024) Says:
November 1st, 2013 at 4:29 pm

“The point is that it is trivia”

A point or not (it isn’t) it is not one that has any bearing on the discussion.

I’m not sure I would call what you contribute here “discussion”.

“Everyone of your posts drips with insufferable arrogance and condescension”

🙂
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November 1, 2013 4:36pm
Redbaiter

“I’m not sure I would call what you contribute here “discussion”.”

Well, I am definitely in no such doubt that you’re an uninformed half educated troll, so you’re behind again.
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November 1, 2013 4:39pm
cha

in Outer Mongolia.

Nah, that was my younger brother, he was part of an aircrew on a pasture rejuvenation project – although he did live in a yurt.
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November 1, 2013 4:43pm
TheContrarian

For a communist, Red, Obama sure is cosy with the large corporations. In fact, for a communist, Obama seems to be pretty wedded to neoliberal capitalism.
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November 1, 2013 4:45pm
cha

seek information out on the internet

It really does bother you doesn’t it that others can spot your lies.
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November 1, 2013 4:48pm
Redbaiter

You couldn’t spot your own arse if you were in a fish tank with sharks you sad try hard inarticulate know nothing non-contributing imbecile.
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November 1, 2013 4:50pm
TheContrarian

“You couldn’t spot your own arse if you were in a fish tank with sharks”
What the hell does that even mean?
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November 1, 2013 4:54pm
Redbaiter

“Obama seems to be pretty wedded to neoliberal capitalism.”

Yes, he learnt that from his mentors Frank Marshall Davis, William Ayers and Carl Davidson.

FFS..!!
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November 1, 2013 4:55pm
TheContrarian

The USA still runs a capitalist economy and that isn’t going to change.
But Obama will spring communism at any moment I’m sure.
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November 1, 2013 4:58pm
RRM

What a loon. They were the British Army you troll, with all of the resources of one of the richest and most powerful governments on the planet.

LOL, ask the Taranaki Maoris how well all those colonial English resources worked out for them?
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November 1, 2013 5:08pm
Bad__Cat

Kea, asking Red, do you consider yourself representative of people who support the conservative right ? ( the 0.7 % ) is beneath his dignity to answer, so I will help. Red thinks they are just a sick weak pack of cowardly commie prog scum trolls like everyone else in NZ (except perhaps Harriet & kowtow when he {Red} is desperate for company)

Red, are you ashamed of what you are? Instead of defining everyone else’s position as being on the left of the political spectrum, why not admit with pride that you are so far to the right of everyone else and are in fact a far right extremist. You are way out there where the busses don’t run.

Go on, try it in front of a mirror. “I am a Right Wing Extremist”. You’ll feel so much better.
After all, after you labelled me a prog earlier, I said aloud “I am a prog”. It made me smile and it felt good, because I am in good company. I think I’ll pop over to Whale Oil and boast that I, too, have been called a prog by the dastardly Redbaiter.

BTW, just to really piss you off, I often give you ticks when you make sense. Imagine, saying things that progs agree with! shame on you.
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November 1, 2013 5:37pm
calendar girl

LAJ@8:58 – I resent strongly our former PM,Helen Clark, making public utterances to the media – of a political / constitutional nature – about the future governance of NZ. She can do that as a private citizen, not in her capacity as a senior UN official after holding a business-related meeting with the heir to the throne. The woman has no sense of propriety in dealing publicly with matters pertaining to this country. It’s poor enough form when she’s in this country; on the international stage it’s intolerable. She and her views were rejected by the NZ electorate in 2008 when she pursued actively a chance to continue leading this country. Let her now do the decent thing and retire (as gracefully as she is capable of) from public political life.

However, I note how there was reputedly no talk with Prince Charles about babies and grandchildren. Ms Clark wouldn’t have any first-hand insight into the role or needs of babies, children or grandchildren. One can only hope that her UN Development Fund has relevant experience and empathy on a broad scale within its management ranks.
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November 1, 2013 5:57pm
Fletch

Animator unofficially brings Calvin and Hobbes dance to life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWsmB4SjGJw

Probably as close as we’ll get to an animated version.
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November 1, 2013 6:36pm
Longknives

Imagine the howls of outrage if the entire One network news team had gone into fits of giggles and made repeated suggestive innuendo over a picture of Sharapova in her underwear?
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November 1, 2013 7:04pm
kowtow

http://www.odt.co.nz/news/politics/279396/english-give-clutha-southland-seat

Bill giving up his seat to go on the list.
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November 1, 2013 7:23pm
Kea

Bad__Cat, thank for the ticks. I even give you and even Red ticks when he behaves himself.

” is beneath his dignity to answer”

Now you are just being silly 🙂
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November 1, 2013 7:26pm
bereal

i sse New Zealand Family Planning director Frances Bird lists the reasons for introducing
sexuality education into schols years 1-4
As a result she says NZ kids will,

-be less likely to have early sex
-have fewer sexual partners
-have less sex overall
-have a healthier sexuality
-have less violent intimate relations
-be more confident about their own sexuality

Has anyone thought to ask her how she knows all this ?

She also says that parents who are concerned about this change need to realise
that this move is not about the needs of the vocal minority. Hello!!

Now i have nothing against lesbians but to better represent the population why
not have a few heterosexuals involved making these sort of changes ?

Maybe even a couple of Mums or Dads.
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November 1, 2013 7:34pm
nasska

Seems appropriate. 🙂

Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/mme85eyqqcjs8vx/Conloop%204.jpg
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November 1, 2013 7:41pm
Steve (North Shore)

The troll Redblatter must have had the day of and got on the piss.
He is like a spare prick at a wedding with all of the lookers. State of it man.
Why give the moron oxygen – his own blog has nothing happening since 27 Oct – 4 fucking days and he protitutes here.
Hey Redblatter, you are far less important the Phillip Ure, Phool, Magpie
……..
http://www.whoar.co.nz
….
I thought he was a fuckwit – you exceed
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November 1, 2013 7:51pm
bereal

Apply your common sense to judge this statement recently made by NZ Family Planner
Frances Bird.

When asked in a confidential survey about sex of year 9 -12 Kiwi students, many asked
the question, “How do i get more pleasure from sex.”

Do you believe Frances Bird ?

Why does no one question this sort of palpable bullshit ?

How does a bullshit artist become elevated to be a director of Family Planning ?

What is her real agenda ?
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November 1, 2013 8:00pm
nasska

Mona, being an “only buy-on-sale shopper,” beckoned
to a saleswoman in an upmarket boutique, pointed to
white wool designer dress on a mannequin, and said,
“How much is the dress on that store dummy over there?”

“That dress is $899.95, Madam,” sneered the rather
snooty assistant.

“Oh! For $99.95, I could get the same dress down the road at the Warehouse!”

“But Madam,” said the saleswoman, “You’ll find that the
dress at the Warehouse is recycled wool. This original is
100% pure virgin wool.”

Mona replied, “Virgin, Schmirgin! For $800, I should be
caring what the sheep do at night?”
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November 1, 2013 8:06pm
stigie

You guys are never going to win against Reddy.

He is just to bloody complicated and hard to figure out !!~
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November 1, 2013 8:38pm
Fletch

How does a bullshit artist become elevated to be a director of Family Planning ?

What is her real agenda ?

I think the aim of these liberals is to get rid of any kind of family unit or even any set kind of sexual union.
They want it all fluid, so that anyone can be with anyone sexually, no matter their gender or age or number of participants.
They see traditional coupling as restrictive and want to ditch it for this anything goes mentality.
Somehow, they think, this is freedom.

So they want kids sexually active at earlier and earlier ages. If they are the teachers, they can indoctrinate them without input from their parents.

I do wonder what these peoples idea of a Utopia would look like.
Probably something out of Huxley’s Brave New World, where “everyone belongs to everyone else”.

Of course, the younger they start, the more Family Planning makes from abortions and contraceptive.
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November 1, 2013 8:42pm
Kea

stigie, Red, and his tragic gimp Kowtow, are not even in the game. They have no real principles and stand for nothing. Do not mistake their abusive rants and mantra of chanting “troll troll troll” as actual debate.
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November 1, 2013 8:44pm
nasska

….”You guys are never going to win against Reddy.”….

Don’t want to win the war stigie…..we need him here as a blog bitch. 🙂
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November 1, 2013 8:49pm
Kea

Red tries (but fails) to create a tough guy image online. In real life he is a furtive weasel. Red strikes me as the back stabbing type, rather than confrontational.
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November 1, 2013 8:55pm
nasska

He might look like this Kea. 🙂

Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0dadutoms4ej2ty/Warrior%202.jpg
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November 1, 2013 9:02pm
bereal

Good points Fletch.

And to put it crudely.
The more these types can devalue the family unit, “liberalise” sexual behaviour, reduce moral
standards, the more normal their own deviancy seems.

Why else would a lesbian devote her career to rising to a position of influence in an organisation
like Family Planning.

Silly fools like me should take more notice of my betters such as Labours Steve Maharey who decared
that in the modern New Zealand anything is a family.

These freakin progressives really are a danger to our very way of life.

If good people do not speak out this evil will prevail because these bastards really work hard at
their social manipulation.
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November 1, 2013 9:02pm
Kea

bereal, they are feminists and their only interest in those matters is to destroy gender roles and traditional families. They see this as the only way to remove male hegemony. A job already done in NZ.
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November 1, 2013 9:06pm
stigie

He might look like this Kea. 🙂

Shit, that looks a bit like me Nasska !
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November 1, 2013 9:08pm
nasska

I’d go for a makeover stigie! 🙂
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November 1, 2013 9:10pm
stigie

Right this minute, i will get the wife on to it Nasska !
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November 1, 2013 9:13pm
Kea

Here is one of Johnboy.

http://846cf0b556e2091331f7-8440970b8caee5315b172abf77b42b06.r10.cf1.rackcdn.com/costumes/images/stereotypes/rednecks/redneck-costume-01.jpg
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November 1, 2013 9:16pm
TheContrarian

“Red strikes me as the back stabbing type, rather than confrontational.”

Sounds like him to a T
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November 1, 2013 9:24pm
Kea

Guess who ?

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTUYOjekv6JBjkdGsovJQpUer429YEBi7OumphIZK5NK8uYcIhW

[What was the initial percentage of fighters in the American population who in the end repelled the might of the British Army and Navy from the shores of America?]
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November 1, 2013 9:25pm
TheContrarian

“Of course, the younger they start, the more Family Planning makes from abortions and contraceptive.”

Family Planning, a non-profit charity, makes money from abortions and contraception?
Citation needed.
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November 1, 2013 9:26pm
publicwatchdog

Thank you for your assistance ‘Dirty Rat’.

When I checked today – there was no sign up at the Botany Rd /Union Rd intersection, and the poster distributor has confirmed that there are no posters up in Ellerslie.

Kind regards,

Penny Bright

http://www.dodgyjohnhasgone.com
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November 1, 2013 9:51pm
publicwatchdog

David, FYI, I was unable to post this up on the New Zealand Taxpayers’ Union facebook page?

What is the New Zealand Taxpayers’ Union planning to do to combat the endemic waste of public money through ‘corporate welfare’? Are you aware of POGO and the work they have been doing for over 30 years in the USA?

http://www.pogo.org/our-work/contract-oversight.html

“Our Work – Contract Oversight

The use of contractors to provide services to the federal government has grown dramatically since the start of the last decade. According to USAspending.gov, in FY 2000 contract spending was approximately $200 billion, and in FY 2011 contract spending exceeded $535 billion, the majority of which was spent on services. POGO investigations have found that these contractor services cost almost two times more—and in the case of the Pentagon as much as six times more—what it would cost if the same work was performed by a federal employee. The move to “smaller government” by outsourcing work has in fact created an enormous shadow government of contractors that are largely or entirely dependent on taxpayers for their revenues.”

How does the replacement of the in-house ‘bureaucracy’ by the outsourced ‘contractocracy’ (which has proven at USA Federal Government level to be TWICE as expensive) benefit the public majority?

FYI – this is what I wrote about this matter, back in November 2011 as an Independent candidate in the Epsom electorate:

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1111/S00095/wheres-nationals-corporate-welfare-reform.htm

Kind regards,

Penny Bright

‘Anti-corruption/anti-privatisation Public Watchdog’
2013 Auckland Mayoral candidate

http://www.pennybright4epsom.org.nz
http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz
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November 1, 2013 10:18pm
axeman

Take note gwiffucknuckle … Alarmism as a mental disorder. The strategy of scaring people into action on climate change has backfired totally, so writes Kathrin Burger of the German leftist TAZ daily in a piece titled: Horror Scenarios Promote Depression. http://notrickszone.com/2013/10/31/green-psychologists-confirm-climate-alarmists-are-making-themselves-mentally-sick-doomer-depression/
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November 1, 2013 11:06pm
Kea

Griff, has gone all quiet since the leaked report from the IPCC.

Even the lunatic fringe is walking away to regroup and find another way to promote global socialism.
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November 1, 2013 11:19pm
Manolo

Cronyism at its worst: http://nypost.com/2013/11/01/obama-donors-firm-hired-to-fix-web-mess-it-helped-make/
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November 2, 2013 6:56am
Fletch

Manolo, not only that, a woman executive, Toni Townes-Whitley, at CGI (the firm hired to do the Obamacare website) was a school friend of Michelle Obama’s at Princeton. CGI’s was the only bid considered.

It’s Michelle Obama doing favours for friends.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/25/michelle-obamas-princeton-classmate-is-executive-at-company-that-built-obamacare-website/
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