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big bruv

Penny.

Have you paid your rates yet?
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November 18, 2013 6:20pm
bereal

Just in case you missed it.

See one of the sickest exchanges between Judith, Big bruv and nickb in yesterdays GD

Pick it up from about 6.00 pm

The subject being ‘discussed,’ is, wiping your arse with pages from the Bible.

And these cretins seem to think that that is funny.
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November 18, 2013 6:21pm
Pete George

This will be interesting.

Labour Leader David Cunliffe has confirmed his cousin Simon Cunliffe will be his Media Director and Chief Press Secretary.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9413621/Labour-leader-appoints-press-secretary

Cuzzy is no doubt the best person for the job.
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November 18, 2013 6:31pm
kowtow

flapper says

“And time to dispose of Kiwibank ($860 million invested and not a single $ in dividends (but an anchor around the neck of NZ Post), KiwiRail (if it can be solved Brown will sell his bridge!), NZ Post, TVNZ etc. etc.

Vote: Thumb up 5 Thumb down 1”

bwhahahahahahaah

Now that they’ve finished with a measly few Air shares, the Nats ain’t selling anymore anything according to Bill Eng.
Time for flapper to dispose of Notional.

…..5…4…3…2…1….. cue flapper meltdown!
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November 18, 2013 6:32pm
nickb

I certainly didn’t think it was funny beryl. I just find that an intoxicated beryl makes for an unpleasant beryl.
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November 18, 2013 6:36pm
bereal

So far my comment @ 6.21 has earned 2 thumbs down.

Which one is the funny Bible using to wipe his arse POS who has yet to respond?
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November 18, 2013 6:40pm
bereal

So it was young nickb.

The now backtracking young nickb.

The same nickb that claims to be a lawyer. (what a joke)

How the fuck does nickb find the time to represent his clients, if he really has any, when
he is on this site all day everyday personally attacking posters whilst ignoring their message ?

What a shallow act.

You would need a ‘lawyer’ like that like you would need a hole in your head.
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November 18, 2013 6:48pm
nickb

Beryl, much as I would like to, I can’t give you 10 thumbs down. That’s as many as your bile normally attracts (like your comment last night).

Can I ask you a question? Why are you so angry? If I were to guess, it would be because you are about 5″5. Short man syndrome, that is a real worry.
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November 18, 2013 6:57pm
bereal

Jerk the morons string.

See the moron dance.

Pavlovs dogs could teach young nickb a thing or two.
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November 18, 2013 7:02pm
cha

Imagine.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZT6HtnCAAAG0yc.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZTAQB7CYAAD3jF.jpg:large

https://twitter.com/thestormreport
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November 18, 2013 7:02pm
Cato

PG. If he wants to employ him – why not?
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November 18, 2013 7:04pm
Pete George

Indeed, why not. But it may mean when Cunliffe wants to get Cunliffe to comment on National and jobs for mates he will have to think carefully about how to word it.

I do hope Simon sorts out David’s communication styles, they haven’t been optimal so far.
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November 18, 2013 7:10pm
Steve (North Shore)

Where is Redblatter?
Don’t some posters feel left out because they have not been multipul insulted today?
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November 18, 2013 7:14pm
Steve (North Shore)

Oh, red thumbsdown – he is here just lurking – invisible – stalking
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November 18, 2013 7:20pm
Left Right and Centre

Why the FUCK would any self-respecting NZder with one and a half fucking braincells to kiss each other….

….want to suffer the TV programme ‘Hot In Cleveland’. AAAAAAAARGGGHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I’d rather poke myself quite hard in the cheeks with a pen for thirty minutes.
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November 18, 2013 7:33pm
Left Right and Centre

On One News:

Five buses charcoaled in arson attack. Ok, not good.

In a suburban depot of 200 buses. Ok, not good reporting.

Karori depot is small and takes maybe 20-30 buses. Five being toasted is in fact a good number of them.

The big picture though is of rush rush rush rush we don’t have time to get things right – oh, that’ll have to do. Who cares how much we get wrong?

I don’t know when I’m watching something else if I can trust these idiots to even get basic facts right.
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November 18, 2013 7:37pm
Manolo

How more delusional can the Poms get? Read the bottom table. Pathetic.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-2508992/Stuart-Lancaster-says-England-lack-magic-touch.html
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November 18, 2013 7:39pm
Left Right and Centre

aha – 200 was the type of bus. But it sounded like ‘200 buses at Karori depot’ on the news. These people are in the business of communication. It’s not rocket science.
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November 18, 2013 7:42pm
Left Right and Centre

A man who was just meters [sic] away from a hit and run in Hamilton yesterday says he thought it was an accident until the driver backed up and drove into the victim a second time.

Meters… metres… yeah, nah… it’s all good cuz.. sweet as… I’m stoked… I’m gutted.. get amongst it…

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/9410550/Dramatic-footage-shows-car-hitting-man
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November 18, 2013 7:48pm
Left Right and Centre

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/9409609/Woman-dead-after-chase

Fuckwits like this bitch shouldn’t be counted in the road toll. They need their own separate ‘dead fuckwits toll’.
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November 18, 2013 7:50pm
nasska

….”Dramatic-footage-shows-car-hitting-man”….

There’s one thing we can be sure of LR&C….if a man did that to his partner he’d be inside for ten years. Dollars gets you not very much at all that this will be put down to pre menstrual tension, post menstrual tension, or pre menopausal syndrome of some type.

Kill a baby, run over a man…..in this country you can do what you want if you’re a woman & some wet over educated fool will manufacture an excuse for you.
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November 18, 2013 7:56pm
Chuck Bird

@nasska

It looks like we agree on something.

I think that a young girl was probably raped by aome scumbags. This will be followed up largely by public pressure.

In the case of this man I doubt if justice will be done.
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November 18, 2013 8:13pm
Johnboy

“Fuck Labour. And I have never liked my greens, so fuck them too. 🙂 ”

If only you could equally dislike he who tends the sheep! 🙂
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November 18, 2013 8:14pm
nasska

I’ll be watching this case closely Chuck…..it’ll be beyond my understanding if she doesn’t get charged with attempted murder.
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November 18, 2013 8:16pm
nasska

A blind rabbit, and a blind snake meet in the woods. They start talking, and eventually become friends, and they agree to meet on a regular basis. On one of these meetings, the snake says “You know, we have talked a lot, but I am blind, and I don’t know what you look like, do you mind if I feel you?” The rabbit agrees, and the snake feels him”… You are soft and cuddly, with a little cotton tail. Are you a rabbit?” “Why yes I am… may I check you out?” “Certainly” The bunny says “Hmmm, you seem to be cold and slimy, and you are choking the life out of me… are you by chance a lawyer?
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November 18, 2013 8:21pm
publicwatchdog

FYI (some) Kiwibloggers….

Try ‘seeking truth from FACTS’?

The crime of ‘treason’ is still in the NZ Crimes Act 1961 – ‘sedition’ is not.

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/DLM328520.html

Part 5
Crimes against public order
Treason and other crimes against the Queen and the State

73 Treason

Every one owing allegiance to Her Majesty the Queen in right of New Zealand commits treason who, within or outside New Zealand,—

(a)kills or wounds or does grievous bodily harm to Her Majesty the Queen, or imprisons or restrains her; or
(b)levies war against New Zealand; or
(c)assists an enemy at war with New Zealand, or any armed forces against which New Zealand forces are engaged in hostilities, whether or not a state of war exists between New Zealand and any other country; or
(d)incites or assists any person with force to invade New Zealand; or
(e)uses force for the purpose of overthrowing the Government of New Zealand; or
(f)conspires with any person to do anything mentioned in this section.
Compare: 1908 No 32 s 94; Criminal Code (1954) s 46 (Canada)
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http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/DLM328549.html

81 Seditious offences defined [Repealed]
82 Seditious conspiracy [Repealed]
83 Seditious statements [Repealed]
84 Publication of seditious documents [Repealed]
85 Use of apparatus for making seditious documents or statements [Repealed]
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Funny how when some ‘mantras’ are repeated often enough, they appear to become real to some people?

Like the ‘mantra’ that this minority National Government has a ‘mandate’ for asset sales when they only have 59 out of 121 MPs?

Had it not been for the arguable TREACHERY of Peter Dunne and his United Future Party – the Public Finance (Mixed Ownership Model) Amendment Bill would have been lost 61 votes to 60.

I look forward to the voting public from Ohariu remembering this at election time.

Kind regards,

Penny Bright
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November 18, 2013 8:23pm
Johnboy

Seeing she dropped uninvited into the Waikato river after running the bloke over I suspect the silly bint will get charged with breaking and entering the home of a Taniwha! 🙂
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November 18, 2013 8:26pm
Left Right and Centre

nazzie – I’m sure the feminists are just as passionate about investigating justice system gender equality. Keeps Helen Kelly awake some nights.

And right here you’d put a really cool dropbox that sums it up nicely 🙂
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November 18, 2013 8:27pm
nasska

The product’s probably a dud too. 🙂

Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8t12lwm3rkya7x9/Waterwoman%201.JPG
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November 18, 2013 8:28pm
Johnboy

If you could generate power from the number of ticks the red thumb gets Bill could put the sale of Penny next up on the auction block! 🙂
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November 18, 2013 8:28pm
Left Right and Centre

Penny – think how many votes you get – and then think how many people that translates to that give a shit what you post on KB. And it’s got to be a lower proportion, if anything, of this blog than the Auckland voters.

It’s a waste of time and effort. Which ironically indicates that a person who can’t see that is not worth worrying about.
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November 18, 2013 8:30pm
Steve (North Shore)

While you are there Penny, go pay your Rates just like the rest of us do.
The Council is open some time after 9.30 and closed some time after 3.30 tomorrow.
You have plenty of time, it’s not like you are working 10/24 – 5/7
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November 18, 2013 8:32pm
Johnboy

Even Len had enough taste not to invite Penny to the Ngati Whatua room. 🙂
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November 18, 2013 8:32pm
stigie

Ole Reddys been quiet today. Wonder if he went for a road trip in his Skoda !!~
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November 18, 2013 8:33pm
nasska

The final stages of planning the revolution are making huge demands on his spare time stigie. 🙂
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November 18, 2013 8:36pm
Nostradamus

So Henny Penny thinks there’s a connection between the Public Finance (Mixed Ownership Model) Amendment Act 2012 and treason. I mean, seriously, wow!

Of course, by referring to “asset sales”, Henny Penny fails to address section 45R of the Public Finance Act 1989 (which was inserted by the Public Finance (Mixed Ownership Model) Amendment Act 2012).

Section 45R states:

45R Restriction on reduction of the Crown’s holding below 51% control

(1) No Minister who is a shareholder in a mixed ownership model company may take any of the following actions if it would result in the Crown having less than 51% control of the company:

(a) sell or otherwise dispose of any shares in, or voting securities of, the company held in the Minister’s name:
(b) permit shares in, or voting securities of, the company to be allotted or issued to any person.

(2) A mixed ownership model company must not issue, acquire, or redeem shares in, or voting securities of, the company if the issue, acquisition, or redemption would result in the Crown having less than 51% control of the company.

(3) An issue, acquisition, or redemption of shares or voting securities is invalid and of no effect to the extent that it breaches subsection (2) (and, if more than 1 person has participated in an issue of shares or voting securities affected by this provision, the invalidity applies to the issue of shares or voting securities to those persons on a pro-rata basis).

(4) The Crown has less than 51% control of a mixed ownership model company, for the purposes of this section, if the Crown holds less than—

(a) 51% of any class of issued shares in the company; or
(b) 51% of any class of voting securities of the company.

So section 45R says the Crown must retain 51% control (or >51%) of a mixed ownership model company. The legislation does nothing like permit assets sales.
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November 18, 2013 8:39pm
Johnboy

Can we make a temporary amendment to section 45R? Just until we sell 100% of Penny and Red to some Arab slave traders! 🙂
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November 18, 2013 8:47pm
stigie

Those Arab slave traders might not want them Johnboy !
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November 18, 2013 8:51pm
Judith

So?
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November 18, 2013 8:55pm
Nostradamus

Johnboy:

Can we make a temporary amendment to section 45R? Just until we sell 100% of Penny and Red to some Arab slave traders!

Henny Penny would accuse you of treason all the way to Mecca!
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November 18, 2013 8:56pm
nasska

We could always offer “no interest, no deposit” & throw in a few camels to clinch the deal. 🙂
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November 18, 2013 8:57pm
Johnboy

If they saw the bloke I did pushing a Skoda up the Wainui hill an hour ago they would. Penny and him could take the galley Captain water skiing when ever he wanted. 🙂
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November 18, 2013 8:57pm
Left Right and Centre

Consent for sex : when does ‘no’ actually mean ‘yes’?

Case study: Saturday nightlife in Wellington.

Let’s say there’s a bloke… let’s call him… up, down and middle. He meets a woman at a nightclub. Having passed the ‘friends of woman’ test…. the two of them decide to take a taxi to her place. *On condition* that there’s to be, in no uncertain terms, no funny business.

At woman’s flat – woman becomes full-on tanked-skank and wants to be nailed like house framing. Says she’ll make hardcore pornstars look like Julie fucking Andrews in The Sound Of Music. Ok – I could be making that last part up.

My heart wasn’t in it, nor any other body parts – so it was all Clinton-esque adult fun only.

1) If you’re a woman and you want sex – drink alcohol. And use that as a cop-out to reconcile your desire with your virtue.

2) Sometimes ‘no’ turns ‘into’ yes. Muddying the waters of sex relations between men and women. And that’s something that isn’t included so much in all the hysteria of ‘our rape culture’. Interesting.
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November 18, 2013 8:58pm
Nostradamus

Johnboy:

Penny and him could could take the galley Captain water skiing when ever he wanted.

So it is possible to waterskii in the Dead Sea!

The Dead Sea has attracted visitors from around the Mediterranean basin for thousands of years. Biblically, it was a place of refuge for King David. It was one of the world’s first health resorts (for Herod the Great), and it has been the supplier of a wide variety of products, from balms for Egyptian mummification to potash for fertilizers. People also use the salt and the minerals from the Dead Sea to create cosmetics and herbal sachets. In 2009, 1.2 million foreign tourists visited on the Israeli side.

I can see why Henny Penny might be quite attracted to the prospect of a dip in the Dead Sea!
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November 18, 2013 9:01pm
Johnboy

Nothing very exciting here tonight. I might pop over to my favourite site! 🙂

http://www.sheepemporium.com/sheepcam.htm
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November 18, 2013 9:05pm
stigie

@Johnboy
Did the Skoda have boy racer air dams and side skirts and running on space savers ?
If it did, that was his !!
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November 18, 2013 9:05pm
nasska

My poor old mate Johnboy suffers from premature ejaculation.

It’s all over in two shakes of a lamb’s tail. 🙂
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November 18, 2013 9:08pm
Judith

You really know the human condition has deteriorated when there is nothing left to talk about but Skodas and lambs tails.

To think I passed up the opportunity to watch the 92nd repeat of Wedding Crashers to be here.
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November 18, 2013 9:15pm
nasska

We’re a bit short of material to get our teeth into tonight Judith…..the Godnutters are spilling their seed on the ground some place & Baity’s done a runner. 🙂
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November 18, 2013 9:24pm
Judith

Oh Baity’s probably watching Wedding Crashers – it seems like the sort of movie that he’d enjoy.

As for the rest of them, it’s a bit worrying – I prefer to hear them screaming and shouting, at least that way we know what they are up to.
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November 18, 2013 9:33pm
publicwatchdog

Here you go Kiwibloggers – sink your wee goldfish gums into this one 😉

http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/brownlee-rapped-over-knuckles-top-lawyer-ch-148820#comment-638718

In response to a question, Mr Brownlee said he found it extraordinary that “someone can sit on the bench of a court in this country and inflict such injustice on so many people.”

Mr Mills QC says Mr Brownlee’s comments are dangerous.

“It is the role of judges to make their decisions according to law. For a senior government politician to publicly criticise a judge for fulfilling his constitutional role, and to imply that he ought not to be a judge because he has made a decision that the minister dislikes, is dangerous. The rule of law needs to be recognised and supported by politicians, even when they do not like the results,” Mr Mills says.

_________________________________________________________________________________________________

I find it extraordinary that Government Ministers like ‘Leader of the House’ Mr Brownlee can sit in Cabinet in this country and inflict such injustice on so many people.

Like railroading through Parliament the NZ International Convention Centre Bill, with NO ‘due diligence’ on the increased risk of money-laundering at Sky City?

Penny Bright
http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz
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November 18, 2013 9:58pm
PhilP

Fuck off Penny!
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November 18, 2013 10:02pm
Fletch

Why the FUCK would any self-respecting NZder with one and a half fucking braincells to kiss each other….

….want to suffer the TV programme ‘Hot In Cleveland’. AAAAAAAARGGGHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To be honest, there aren’t many comedies on TV that are actually funny. Certainly not on TV2’s Comedy Wednesday, with Two and a Half men and Big Bang Theory and such. I just don’t see what people find funny about them.
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November 18, 2013 10:10pm
nickb

Agreed Fletch. Pretty damn lame if you ask me. I have started watching Duck Dynasty, pretty funny stuff. RB recommended it a while back.
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November 18, 2013 10:18pm
publicwatchdog

Now – this is possibly going to throw a ‘wobble’ in the works to those arguably less sophisticated Kiwibloggers who have not yet learned to deal with political matters on an ‘issue by issue’ basis?

(Meant of course, in a caring way 🙂

ie: Some of you may actually agree with me on this matter?

PERISH the thought! 😉

________________________________________________________________________________________________

13 November 2013

Auckland Council CEO
Doug McKay

Dear Doug,

‘Open Letter’ re: Inquiry into Conduct of Mayor Len Brown

http://www.interest.co.nz/sites/default/files/Independent%20Review%20Scope.pdf

Please confirm that the terms of reference of this ‘inquiry’ include an investigation into the alleged use of Sky City premises (namely hotel room(s) in the affair between Mayor Len Brown and Bevan Chuang.

As an ‘anti-corruption’ Public Watchdog, I am primarily interested in knowing whether Sky City premises (namely hotel room(s), were used in the affair between Mayor Len Brown and Bevan Chuang.

The issue of payment (who paid, how they were paid for, or if they were used without payment), although significant, is secondary (in my considered opinion).

Please confirm that the alleged use Sky City premises (namely hotel room(s), will be covered by this ‘inquiry’, given that there may not be any evidence available from either Auckland Council documents or financial records.

Can you please acknowledge receipt of this correspondence at your earliest available opportunity.

Yours sincerely,

Penny Bright
_________________________________________________________

15 November 2013

Dear Ms Bright

With reference to your email sent to me on 13 November 2013 regarding the scope of the Independent Review being conducted by Ernst and Young. As stated in the review’s scope, which is hyperlinked in your original email, the review will examine any use of council resources, in respect of the Mayor’s relationship with Ms Chuang, that contravenes council’s policies.

Subject to the conclusion of the review, the findings may or may not address the questions raised in your email. As is reported in the review’s scope, I do not intend to make any public comment on the substance or progress of the review until the findings of the review are released. This approach protects the rights of those involved in the review and council’s ability to carry out the role effectively and efficiently.

Regards
Doug McKay
Chief Executive
____________________________________________________________________________________________

So – that’s how you do the classic ‘Clayton’s inquiry’?

By limiting the terms of reference?

Any ‘conflicts of interest’ here?

http://www.committeeforauckland.co.nz membership

I think so.

Penny Bright
___________________________________________________________________________________________
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November 18, 2013 11:04pm
publicwatchdog

PhilP (117) Says:
November 18th, 2013 at 10:02 pm
Fuck off Penny!

Which FACT(s) did you particularly dislike PhilP?

Kind regards,

Penny
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November 18, 2013 11:07pm
Left Right and Centre

The only fact people hate is that you continue to pollute GD with your fucking nonsense bullshit Penis Bites
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November 18, 2013 11:13pm
big bruv

Penny

Have you paid your rates yet?
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November 19, 2013 4:25am
Dean Papa

Porridge. A reminder of what a brilliant character actor Ronnie Barker could be.
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