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Harriet

Objects of Extreme Hate: Ex-Homosexuals

That the militant homosexual lobby is expert at hatred and spewing forth venomous bile at anyone who dares to differ is of course well known, and has been amply documented here hundreds of times. But the great focus of their rage and hatred is on those who dare to leave the homosexual lifestyle. That is the really big taboo.

They absolutely hate it when a homosexual is set free from this deadly and dead-end lifestyle. Of course the reason for this is obvious: it derails their entire false premise that this is a condition one is born with and is completely unalterable. The fact that so many have fully left the homosexual lifestyle obviously gives lie to the myth that homosexuals cannot change.

I know many of these folks personally. They were deeply into the homosexual lifestyle, but have now been set gloriously free from this unhealthy and high-risk lifestyle. There are probably only two other areas in which conversion out is considered to be so heinous.

In Islam the “sin” of apostasy is met with only one response: death. And when an atheist dares to leave the world of ideological atheism, all hell breaks out there as well, as in the recent case of Antony Flew. All rigid and destructive ideologies absolutely hate it when anyone dares to defect. It is the unpardonable sin which must be ferociously denounced.

http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2013/11/14/objects-of-extreme-hate-ex-homosexuals/
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November 16, 2013 8:01am
Longknives

Quote from the ‘impartial’ referee in tonight’s Tua fight-

“Australian Brad Vocale, who’ll referee the fight, said the bout was mostly for Tua’s benefit.
“In order for David Tua to come back into the equation, for him to be able to fight with one of the big names i.e. Vatali Klitschko, he needs to be rated,” Vocale said.
“We needed a vehicle to get David Tua back in the ratings ”

I’d be pretty embarrassed if I was the NZ TAB (who have taken a lot of money on this fight) and the referee was making comments like this BEFORE the fight….
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November 16, 2013 8:07am
Pete George

I don’t know why the TAB takes bets on boxing at all, it seems to be dominated by egos, has beens and cerebral strugglers put together into freak shows.
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November 16, 2013 8:11am
flipper

This will upset the red melon greens and all other eco-fascists:

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Japan slashes: Forget a 25% cut in CO2 emissions, now the target is a 3% rise!

The UN will not be happy about this. The global movement is falling apart.

Japan, third largest economy in the world, and the land of Kyoto itself, has dumped their ambitious plan to reduce emissions by 25% by 2020. Now they warn that their emissions may rise instead.

“Cabinet members said on Friday they had agreed a new target with an updated time frame, under which Japan would seek to cut carbon dioxide emissions by 3.8 per cent by 2020 compared with their level in 2005. Nobuteru Ishihara, the environment minister, is to defend the goal next week when he joins international climate talks in Warsaw.

Japan’s previous target used an earlier and more challenging baseline: 1990, the benchmark year for the Kyoto agreement and a time when Japanese emissions were lower. Compared with that year, Japan said in 2009, it would cut its emissions by one-quarter by 2020.

The new target announced on Friday represents a 3 per cent rise over the same 30-year period – a difference from the previous goal that is about equal to the annual carbon dioxide emissions of Spain.

Read more at the Financial Times

It is being painted as being due to the Fukushima reactor, which no doubt played a role. Japan used to get 30% of its electricity from nuclear power and those reactors are currently out of action (though some may be restarted soon). But it was not meeting the targets beforehand anyway and was already paying billions to buy carbon credits.
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Japan 2006: “Japan is at risk of falling well short of its commitment to reduce greenhouse gas emissions under the Kyoto Protocol, with fiscal 2005 combined discharges of all greenhouse gases having increased 8.1% from fiscal 1990 levels.”

“Achieving the target will be difficult,” says an Environment Ministry official (in 2006.)

Japan 2008: “Japanese households and businesses could end up paying more than $500 billion to cut greenhouse gas emissions by 11 percent over the next decade, the trade and industry ministry said Wednesday.”

Japan 2010: “Tokyo Electric Power Co (9501.T), Japan’s biggest utility, spent $229 million in the last business year on carbon credits, paving the way to achieve a self-imposed target to help Japan to meet its Kyoto Protocol commitments.”

Japan did warn people in 2011 that it might have to revise the target.

Keep reading → 🙂

http://joannenova.com.au
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November 16, 2013 8:11am
wat dabney

This week we witnessed the sickening Russel Norman lying about dead babies in order to further his political career.

We can’t know for sure that he wished to make and wear a human suit from their skins, but what we can be sure of is that he was lying through his ginger teeth about the significance of the cyclone.

“Data from the national weather bureau, the Philippine Atmospheric, Geophysical and Astronomical Services Administration, or PAGASA, showed that Typhoon Haiyan’s intensity – measured by the wind strength at its center and the speed of gusts at landfall – Haiyan ranks at number 7 among the strongest storms ever to have hit the Philippines”

http://blogs.wsj.com/searealtime/2013/11/14/is-typhoon-haiyan-the-strongest-storm-ever/

So only the seventh strongest storm, and that’s just counting the Philippines (and you need to go back over 40 years for their most powerful.)
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November 16, 2013 8:17am
jcuk

Update on a comment I made a few days ago …
A Dearborn Heights, Mich., homeowner was charged Friday with second-degree murder, manslaughter and felony firearms possession in the death of Renisha Marie McBride, a 19-year-old woman who was shot in the face as she stood on the man’s porch in the middle of the night nearly two weeks ago.

An example of where paranoia gets you and sadly people are increasingly suffering from some form of this, fed largely by the media’s emphasis on things going wrong in society.
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November 16, 2013 8:18am
you reap what you sow

The Obama administration has, to date, failed to prosecute a single elite banker for the fraud epidemics that caused the financial crisis and the Great Recession, but it using the TPP to lead the charge to criminalize any alleged interference with intellectual property (IP) rights.The hard line approach taken by the US with its over 600 corporate advisors makes me think that the TPP nations should exclude the US agree the terms without them.

Essentially NZ and other countries are being pressured to give up their sovereignty and democracy for the benefit of US corporates.
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November 16, 2013 8:28am
Yvette

TPP partners New Zealand, Australia and Singapore are all ranked by the World Bank as performing at least as well as the United States with regard to control of corruption and adherence to rule of law. Yet in a manner that would enrage right and left alike, the private “investor-state” enforcement system included in the leaked TPP text would<b. empower foreign investors and corporations to skirt domestic courts and laws and sue governments in foreign tribunals. There, they can demand cash compensation from domestic treasuries over domestic policies that they claim undermine their new investor rights and expected future profits. This establishes an alarming two-track system of justice that privileges foreign corporations in myriad ways relative to governments or domestic businesses. It also exposes signatory countries to vast liabilities, as foreign firms use foreign tribunals to raid public treasuries.
– http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/11/the-tpp-if-passed-spells-the-end-of-popular-sovereignty-for-the-united-states.html

If we aren’t all just inches away from being fucked by Fukushima reactor rod retrieval, the TPP will likely fuck us in only a slightly different way.
“The world has never had it so good” 🙂
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November 16, 2013 8:30am
Yvette

Thinks: Hasn’t Len Brown actually done more in the past few months to destroy the institution of marriage, than the promised mayhem of same sex gay weddings?
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November 16, 2013 8:34am
Yvette

It’s not that Yvette got out of the wrong side of the bed this morning –
it’s that she got up at all.
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November 16, 2013 8:35am
wat dabney

“The Obama administration has, to date, failed to prosecute a single elite banker for the fraud epidemics that caused the financial crisis”

There was essentially no fraud, let alone an ‘epidemic.’ (The problem was an altogether different matter of perverse incentives and socialised losses.)

So even under Obama’s watch, when the rule of law is tumbling, it’s hard to see how anyone can be prosecuted when they didn’t break any laws.
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November 16, 2013 8:37am
big bruv

Has Len Brown resigned yet?
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November 16, 2013 8:54am
flipper

but wat…….

the bullshit reaper doesn’t care about facts…just sew more Kelsey like bullshit and hope to reap something.

Fortunately there is a drought at this blog, so he will reap very little 🙂
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Yvette…
Settle down……..
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November 16, 2013 8:54am
wreck1080

Pathetic…

“Thousands of Kiwis set to protest against ‘Roast Busters’ in country’s main centres today”

There was a thing on the news last week , where a bunch of men got together and chanted slogans about how they respect women. They looked like a bunch of reformed sex offenders to me.

Just let the police do their job — they appear to be on the case now. Who knows , the Roast busters may even be only guilty of bragging (although i doubt it but let justice run it’s course).
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November 16, 2013 9:03am
wat dabney

“Most Intense Typhoons On The Decline”

http://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2013/11/14/most-intense-typhoons-on-the-decline/

Crazy thought, but it’s almost as if Russel doesn’t give a flying fuck for the truth and will say anything – no matter how depraved and nauseating – to sustain his sordid political career.
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November 16, 2013 9:11am
you reap what you sow

Wat dabney, perhaps Disney?

From business wire:
Bank of America, Citigroup, Credit Suisse, Deutsche Bank, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Royal Bank of Scotland, UBS, and Wells Fargo are all being investigated by the Justice Department for the banks’ mortgage-backed securities businesses prior to the financial crisis, the Financial Times reports. If JPMorgan’s $13 billion settlement is any indication, these banks could end up paying some serious cash. The DOJ is, after all, using the JPMorgan case as a model to investigate other banks that contributed to the crisis.

All of these investigations have been started by the mortgage fraud task force President Obama formed in January 2012. The force finally got some traction by landing the JPMorgan settlement, which JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon obviously struggled to agree to. The DOJ is still conducting a criminal investigation into the bank’s mortgage-back securities business.
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November 16, 2013 9:12am
Harriet

“….There was a thing on the news last week , where a bunch of men got together and chanted slogans about how they respect women. They looked like a bunch of reformed sex offenders to me…..”

Chanting is not going to stop a rapist – as rapists don’t give a fuck about women!

Saying ‘no’ is a false sense of security for women. Women have to be very cautious by not being alone outside at night, and more so drunk outside alone at night.

Every father with a wallet knows that. So too does Judith Collins.
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November 16, 2013 9:14am
wat dabney

yrwys,

You need to distinguish between upholding the rule of law and a shakedown.
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November 16, 2013 9:17am
Sidey

Pete George at 8:11 am
I don’t know why the TAB takes bets on boxing at all, it seems to be dominated by egos, has beens and cerebral strugglers put together into freak shows.

Sounds more like the Labour party!
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November 16, 2013 9:24am
Tom Jackson

To further yesterday’s little post.

Rugby isn’t even in the top 10 played sports in the world. It’s a fine game, but not a major sport.

Rugby has less than 5 million registered players worldwide.

In contrast, there are a quarter of a billion registered football players worldwide.
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November 16, 2013 9:27am
Gulag1917

Some French home truths
http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2013/11/05/jean-raspails-new-warning/
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November 16, 2013 9:29am
you reap what you sow

Wat dabney – I’m sure Jamie Dimond’s and jpmorgans $13 billion fine is more than a casual shakedown!! Might be small change to some but 13 billion is more than the GDP of a small nation.
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November 16, 2013 9:36am
Harriet

Thanks for that link gulag:

Thanks to the demographic curve, by the 2050s the number of young indigenous French will equal that of young foreigners in France. Many will be naturalized, which does not mean that they will have become French. I am not saying they are bad people, but “naturalizations on paper” are not naturalizations of the heart. I cannot consider them my compatriots. We need to drastically toughen the law, as a matter of urgency.
There are only two ways to deal with immigrants, Raspail says. “Either we accommodate them, and France—her culture, her civilization—will be eradicated without so much as a funeral. In my view, that is what is going to happen. Or we do not accommodate them at all, which means we stop sanctifying the Other and rediscover our neighbors.”
This would mean that we eventually cease…….those depraved human rights, and that we take the indispensable measures to protect ourselves collectively, without appeal, to avoid the dissolution of our country into a general race-blending mélange. I see no other solution.
I travelled a lot in my youth. All peoples are fascinating, but when you mix them too much, animosity becomes far more prevalent than sympathy. Métissage is never peaceful. It is a dangerous utopia.

See more at: http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2013/11/05/jean-raspails-new-warning/#sthash.8cimJMBb.dpuf
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November 16, 2013 9:43am
kowtow

reap as sow

No it’s not a casual shake down.

It’s a deliberate shake down. If hope and change Obama, and his justice dept, were serious about the criminality of said bodies they’d gaol the bosses or target the actual guilty parties when said institutions are found guilty…….

but as in the case of the money laundering by HSBC a huge fine ( tax) will suffice.

Too big to fail but not too big to milk.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324478304578171650887467568
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November 16, 2013 9:47am
Scott Chris

“Most Intense Typhoons On The Decline”

Heh. Talk about selective evidence.

How about we take in a wider selection to broaden our minds a little?

Tropical cyclone counts in the North Atlantic basin, 1900-2007 (data source: National Hurricane Center)
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November 16, 2013 9:47am
Pete George

Sidey – yes, there’s a likeness, but Labour lack the (political) pugilist skills.
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November 16, 2013 9:57am
Judith

@ Harriet (2,988) Says:
November 16th, 2013 at 8:01 am

…That the militant ANTI-homosexual lobby is expert at hatred and spewing forth venomous bile at anyone who dares to differ is of course well known…

It works both ways Harriet. There is extreme hatred on both sides of that particular coin. It is hardly an accusation that can be made by one side in some attempt to sound superior to the other.
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November 16, 2013 10:04am
Judith

Harriet (2,988) Says:
November 16th, 2013 at 9:14 am
“….There was a thing on the news last week , where a bunch of men got together and chanted slogans about how they respect women. They looked like a bunch of reformed sex offenders to me…..”

Chanting is not going to stop a rapist – as rapists don’t give a fuck about women!

Saying ‘no’ is a false sense of security for women. Women have to be very cautious by not being alone outside at night, and more so drunk outside alone at night.

1. There are no particular common physical attributes that allows one to identify a rapist (although some would argue a ‘penis’ is one – ).

2. Chanting may not stop the rapist, but it will raise awareness and reinforce the need for better laws and more vigilance to the type of behaviours that encourage rape.

3. It is not true that rapists don’t give ‘fuck’ about women. They do not care about their particular victim, but there are various reasons for rape, and a hatred of ‘all women’ is one factor that is noted in some cases, but not all.

4. Being drunk, and alone outside at night is not wise for anyone, not just females, as our accident and assault statistics show.

5. Yes I acknowledge females are vulnerable when they are alone in the dark, but many rapes also occur during the day, and in their own homes. Females (not just women) are vulnerable to rape (full stop), it is only by teaching our children to be aware of that vulnerability and to deal with situations where their security is threatened, that we will reduce this needless violence.

6. We will never eradicate rape from the world. Saying No does work, but only with those who understand what the word means. Just as we must teach our children (both sexes) to defend themselves, we must also teach them what the word NO means.
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November 16, 2013 10:17am
Harriet

Judith be serious.

EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT THE WORD ‘NO’ MEANS – AND THAT INCLUDES THE RAPIST!

Educating people further on that matter is a waste of resources – and the wrong target.[of couse little boys should STILL be taught it.]

Women being taught about why rape OCCURES is the best target!

Taking a stranger home for sex means one thing – SEX! Saying ‘no’ while half naked and half drunk on the couch with same said male is not much of a DEFENCE!

If not being drunk and alone outside is a form of defence, then not being drunk and alone inside is also no form of defence. ESPECIALLY so if you have ALREADY said or suggested sex!

You come across most of the time as a feminist slogan thrower Judith. Other than that you are ok.
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November 16, 2013 10:32am
big bruv

“Rugby isn’t even in the top 10 played sports in the world. It’s a fine game, but not a major sport.”

Totally agree. According to some Rugby union is not even in the top fifteen.

Of course as Kiwis we should not care about that, we should be mature enough to say that does not matter, we like the game and that is what is important. However, as we know that is not good enough for this insecure nation, because we suffer from such an embarrassing identity crisis we insist on trying to convince ourselves that Rugby is a bigger game than it is.
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November 16, 2013 10:33am
RichardX

Harriet (2,991) Says:
November 16th, 2013 at 9:14 am

Every father with a wallet knows that.

Why the qualifier “with a wallet”?
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November 16, 2013 10:52am
Pete George

Women being taught about why rape OCCURES is the best target!

No. Making it clear to men in particular that rape is totally unacceptable is the best target.

And improving the way rape complaints are dealt with.
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November 16, 2013 10:55am
Dirty Rat

big bruv (11,673) Says:
November 16th, 2013 at 8:54 am
Has Len Brown resigned yet?

Sadly ….no

Even more sadly, there is no suitable alternative…

Even even more sadly sadly any alternative would be put off competing in a dirty war.
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November 16, 2013 10:58am
Pete George

Taking a stranger home for sex means one thing – SEX!

Not necessarily.

If one party changes their mind then NO SEX.
If one party makes it clear they don’t consent at the time the other party tries then NO SEX.
If one party is incapable of consenting at the time then NO SEX.

That’s not just legal, it’s common sense and it protects both parties.
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November 16, 2013 11:05am
Judith

Harriet (2,991) Says:
November 16th, 2013 at 10:32 am
Judith be serious.

EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT THE WORD ‘NO’ MEANS – AND THAT INCLUDES THE RAPIST!

and at times you come across as very ignorant to the human condition Harriet – other than that you are ‘ok’ too.

Of course people know what the word no means, but not all know what the concept of no means within sexual relations.

Many victims of rape do not or are unable to say ‘no’ in the oral sense, but their actions are indicative of their lack of acceptance. Many speak of being ‘frozen in fear’.

Young people need to be taught the signs of unequivocal acceptance, and to understand that anything other than that, is a ‘NO’ – do not proceed.

Such things as an initial pushing away of the hand – is not a sign to try again until you succeed. So often I have had young offenders telling me that their fathers had told them it is normal when its a girls first time to not be sure if they want to go all the way – but just carry on and eventually they’ll like it.

I’ve seen men joke with young adolescents to ‘ make sure you slip her a bit before someone else gets to the honeypot first’ and ‘she may not realise she wants it, but she does’.

A responsible parent teaches their child to respect the wishes of the other, to understand that any reluctance means they back off, and that any form of interference in the ability to decide (be it alcohol or drugs) means that they don’t proceed.

You seem to have difficulty in understanding the difference between the male and female psyche. A female may take a male home, and be more than willing to ‘muck around’, but that does not necessarily mean they want to ‘go all the way’, or even once the foreplay begins that they will be attracted enough to want intercourse.

As an example – a guy takes his shirt off and you suddenly find his body odour makes you gag. Or when he’s got his trousers round his ankles you discover there is more cheese on the member than in your fridge?. Is a female meant to ignore those things and just proceed regardlessly, despite feeling revolted? If at any point she or he wishes to stop, regardless at what level the action is at, then those wishes should be adhered to.

IT is basic human respect – and it is up to parents to teach their children that it doesn’t matter what has happened prior, as soon as someone indicates they are not happy with proceeding, it ceases.

It’s about protecting your children – not just your daughters from being raped, but from having your son’s convicted as rapists.
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November 16, 2013 11:06am
Longknives

Bruv- Talk round the office this week (in the wake of McCaw and co’s astounding claim to be the greatest sports team ever/the laughable inclusion of McCaw in Herald’s top ten) is that this current All Black mob are getting overhyped/well ahead of themselves and need to be brought down a few notches.
Back when I supported them (Shelford/Fitzpatrick etc era) you never heard any Kiwis openly wanting the All Blacks to lose. Now due to the ‘Culture of Arrogance’ first Graham Henry and now Steve Hansen installed into the side it is quite common for backlash against such staggering hubris…
Seems you and I are not the only New Zealanders who would love to see the self-professed ‘greatest sports team ever’ come crashing down to earth (yet again!)
*I also find it curious (and slightly amusing) that the greatest player and captain of the alleged greatest sports team EVER would be sitting in the audience on the Letterman show and be completely anonymous…
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November 16, 2013 11:08am
Colville

I think we are better served with Len Brown staying where he is, he is a Liarbore supporter afterall.
Everytime he opens his mouth in the next year in the lead up to the election people are going to look at him with disgust and those same people will vote Blue and not Red.
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November 16, 2013 11:09am
wikiriwhis business

“Bank of America, Citigroup, Credit Suisse, Deutsche Bank, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Royal Bank of Scotland, UBS, and Wells Fargo are all being investigated by the Justice Department ”

Igot no idea why there’s so much ignorance on this site about these bankibg issues. Bankers are the biggest white collar crims on teh face of the Earth. Our own banks are being sued now because they over charging

all I can surmise is that KiwiBloggers have vested interests and are hurt by bank scrutiny.

And that justifies my ‘corporate Kiwiblogger’ moniker
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November 16, 2013 11:32am
wikiriwhis business

“Essentially NZ and other countries are being pressured to give up their sovereignty and democracy for the benefit of US corporates.”

Which is what Dotcom proved by showing the US NZ is still a sovereign nation.
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November 16, 2013 11:35am
wikiriwhis business

‘So even under Obama’s watch, when the rule of law is tumbling, it’s hard to see how anyone can be prosecuted when they didn’t break any laws.”

Absolutely wrong.

Timothy Geitner should be in jail right now.

He had an email intercepted warning the City of London to tone down the Libor rate rigging.

By law if anyone even suspects financial fraud they must advise the authorities. Geitner assisted the white collar crims by advising them to tone things down.

Again, I am stunned by the ignorance on this site of the Libor rate riging that was clear financial conspiracy and called such.
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November 16, 2013 11:45am
MT_Tinman

Big Bruv, I disagree.

Not about rugby’s place in the world but about our fellow NZers.

Only the slime and a few idiots think rugby matters to anyone but us and and the Jaapies – and the Jaapies are a very small minority in their own country.

Be not ashamed of your countrymen, just the slime who pollute NZ media – the few idiots exist everywhere.
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November 16, 2013 11:54am
bereal

See how well muslims integrate into New Zealand society.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11158245

Thing is, muslims, as opposed to any other immigrants will never integrate. Any who did
would cease to be muslims. Got a problem with that statement ? Then point to one western
society that has successfully integrated muslim immigrants.

“Go to a muslim country and tell them you want your own education system and rules
and see what happens.”

And we import more and more of them. Why ?
It can only end in tears.
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November 16, 2013 12:32pm
bereal

Great news.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/front-page-top-stories/news/article.cfm?c_id=698&objectid=11158292

Well done New Zealand Police.
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November 16, 2013 12:41pm
Pauleastbay

Jesus Bereal ,someone gives you a down tick for commenting on the apprehension of someone for a sexual assault on a 87 year old woman.

There are some tough audiences out there and that’s a fact..
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November 16, 2013 1:08pm
Jack5

bereal (12.41):

Good work by the police, agreed. Not sure why such offenders need name suppression, even initial name suppression.

Pauleastbay (1.08): I see you’ve now picked up a down tick for your comment about brereal’s downtick.

There are a few police-hating lurkers on Kiwiblog. Some of them may even be posting from behind bars. They may be the downtickers.
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November 16, 2013 1:22pm
kowtow

How’s that Arab Springey thingey going for ya?

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2013/11/protest-libya-turns-deadly-2013111515712840946.html
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November 16, 2013 1:30pm
Judith

I wouldn’t take offence over down ticks – I’ve decided some people don’t even read the posts, they vote according to their ‘liking’ or not of the particular poster.

It’s a stupid system – and best ignored.

@ Bereal

Yes a great outcome. I’m not sure regarding the name suppression, it’s usually done to protect the victim’s identity, if there is some relationship – perhaps the perpetrator has elderly parents of his own or someone with an illness that is being protected for now, in order to give them time to be told and adjust. Sometimes it will be done out of safety concerns for the offender – which may very well be the case in this revolting situation.
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November 16, 2013 1:39pm
Judith

@ Jack5 (3,602) Says:
November 16th, 2013 at 1:22 pm

You can bet that if prisoners had free and unlimited access to the internet we would be more aware of it than via a few ‘tick downs’ on comments supporting the police. .

Despite what the commonly held belief is, there is not a laptop in every cell with unlimited and unsupervised access to the internet.
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November 16, 2013 1:44pm
kowtow

no judith there may not be a laptop in every cell ,but there’s a lot of cells pushed up to the lap.

I suppose the obesity epidemic makes it hard for the screws to decide why the fat mammas visiting waddle so much,hoping like hell noone ‘phones while they go through security……
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November 16, 2013 1:49pm
goldnkiwi

Odd old lag lurking I am sure. Or is that old odd lag?
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November 16, 2013 2:07pm
wat dabney

Scott Chris,

“Heh. Talk about selective evidence.”

Putting the Philippine’s most recent cyclone into its regional historical context is not ‘being selective.’ It is entirely cogent and relevant.

But then you yourself go on to cite what is indeed a highly selective piece of cherry-picking.

You little crook, you.

This is a broad and comprehensive study of cyclone history, which concludes that “the collective global frequency of all global hurricane landfalls and the minor and major subsets shows con-siderable interannual variability but no significant linear trend”

http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/admin/publication_files/2012.04.pdf

Hell, even the corrupt and worthless IPCC only ascribes ‘low confidence’ to the issue.

And now a new paper finds Pacific cyclone activity is at the lowest levels of the past 5,000 years

http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.co.nz/2013/11/new-paper-finds-pacific-cyclone.html

Yet the self-serving and lying Russel Norman stands up, drops his trousers and wanks over a pile of dead babies because he thinks it will further his career.
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November 16, 2013 2:40pm
Judith

@ kowtow (5,742) Says:
November 16th, 2013 at 1:49 pm

Do you know anything about the procedures conducted regarding prison visits?

Whilst a visitor may be able to get a phone past a guard, the prisoner must then be able to hide the phone during the strip and squat process. Drugs are a bit easier to retain during that process, however a cell phone is not quite so easy.

Then there is the soft ware that can block/detect cell phone transmission which is in 79% of prison areas.

Still, no need to let the truth get in the way of a good story aye – lets promote the concept of flat screen tv’s and full and unlimited sky coverage in every cell too, shall we?
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November 16, 2013 3:00pm
igm

Is David Ross planning to stand for GWRC on a Labour ticket upon his release? He would be at home with the other convicted fraudster, except he has not had the privilege of name and facts suppression.
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November 16, 2013 3:09pm
goldnkiwi

Really ‘Judith’ google is your friend. I am sure a lot has happened between then and now. Not!!! 2011 Paremoremo. Drugs, phones.
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November 16, 2013 3:56pm
kowtow

judith

I’ll admit a pretty lame attempt at humour.

Don’t take everything too literally or seriously.

(goldnkiwi got it)
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November 16, 2013 4:49pm
Viking2

I believe in the power of freedom. Freedom is an asset bestowed upon every single man and woman. Freedom enables every human to discover and realize his or her opportunities and chances for development. This leads a human society to progress and prosperity. Free people look for solutions in themselves. And those without freedom search for the sources of their miseries from outside. Mongols say, “better to live by your own choice however bitter it is, than to live by other’s choice, however sweet”.

No it wasn’t a kiwi nor an American , nor a pomme. but.

The President of Mongolia preaches freedom to North Korea – in North Korea

http://www.samizdata.net/2013/11/the-president-of-mongolia-preaches-freedom-to-north-korea-in-north-korea/

No tyranny lasts forever. It is the desire of the people to live free that is the eternal power.

No wonder we got rid of Clark.
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November 16, 2013 5:27pm
goldnkiwi

Anyway I have only been a visitor at a few of our prisons. I am sure there are those who are far more expert than me as to the lengths that prisoners go to and the pressures they apply to their families to get contraband in. I have anecdotally heard of children being used to that end and nothing being ‘sacrosanct’ in that regard!!!!!

Lawyers and officers being the extreme minority, I imagine.
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November 16, 2013 5:45pm
goldnkiwi

‘Judith’ could well be a frequent prison visitor so ‘she’ might be speaking from experience. Agreed it would be hard to smuggle in a tv in an orifice.
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November 16, 2013 5:56pm
goldnkiwi

Maybe I missed them, and it is great that there have been protests regarding the ‘rape culture’ that is apparently prevalent, but the pictures of the protesters I saw were all very sensibly and comfortably dressed.

Once I am sure there would have been a wide array of clothing styles as women ‘took back the streets’.

As regards funding for rape crisis, I favour prevention/education not cure/ambulance at the bottom of the cliff. I would rather see rape crisis out of a job.

How about self defence lessons at school instead of what I am sure are still inane activities during P.E.
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November 16, 2013 6:59pm
Scott Chris

This is a broad and comprehensive study

Wat

Truth is the jury’s still out on whether the frequency of tropical cyclones will increase in association with global warming. (contradicting your baseless claim that they’re on the decline to which I facetiously responded with my cherry-picked data) Some reputable scientists even predict the frequency of tropical cyclones may actually fall which seems completely counter-intuitive when you consider the increase in energy content.

However, there is some evidence that the intensity and size of the large storms has increased over the last 30 years, and having observed the size of Sandy and the intensity Haiyan in just the last 12 months the writing appears to be on the wall to those of us who are not in denial.
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November 16, 2013 7:09pm
Redbaiter

“No wonder we got rid of Clark.”

Why?

What’s essentially different in terms of the “freedom” you would profess to have such reverence for?

We’re still on the same train to Commieville, its just been slowed down ever so slightly.
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November 16, 2013 7:16pm
Viking2

There was a farmer who grew watermelons. He was doing pretty well, but he was disturbed by some local kids who would sneak into his watermelon patch at night and eat his watermelons. (YEESH, imagine eating some of our watermellons!!!!) After some careful thought, he came up with a clever idea that he thought would scare the kids away for sure.
He made up a sign and posted it in the field. The next night, the kids showed up and they saw the sign which read,
“Warning! One of the watermelons in this field has been injected with cyanide.”
The kids ran off, made up their own sign and posted it next to the farmer’s sign. When the farmer returned, he surveyed the field. He noticed that no watermelons were missing, but the sign next to his read,
“Now there are two!”
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November 16, 2013 7:23pm
Viking2

Redbaiter (6,407) Says:
November 16th, 2013 at 4:04 pm

“Would be interesting to see if the same result occurred in NZ. Not sure it would.”

I don’t think it would be the same.

Many NZ men love playing second fiddle to women.
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Aha, so now we know about this vapid keyboard warrior in the guise of Redbaiter.
He is in fact under female control. Not allowed out with her who must be obeyed having given her permission so spends his day haunting KB.
Much like whaleoils guest today.

Debbi, 42, forces 70-year-old fiancé to take a lie detector test every time he leaves house – and bans him from watching TV in case he’s attracted to another girl

Debbi Wood checks Reddy’s phone, email and bank statements
He is even forbidden from looking at pictures of women in magazines
She suffers from Othello Syndrome which causes delusional jealousy
Ban on watching The Weakest Link ‘in case he fancies Anne Robinson’
She has changed her surname to his in anticipation of marrying him

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2507072/Paranoid-woman-Debbi-Wood-suffering-Othello-Syndrome-forces-fianc-lie-detector-test.html#ixzz2kmvza2TR

Can’t we just see it?
He doesn’t even bother to write to his own blog. Nothing new for 2 days. Less visits than poor old philu.

you really are a sad bastard reddy. even if occasionally you manage some inspired comment.
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November 16, 2013 7:44pm
kowtow

Viking ,the man with the big bad name,sounds a wee bit defensive tonight.

Red must have touched a wee nerve there.

Just come from doing the dishes or maybe the ironing rather than planning an overseas raiding party.
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November 16, 2013 7:55pm
nasska

Three hookers were comparing notes about their customers from the night
before.

“I entertained a cowboy last night”, said the first.
“How did you know he was a cowboy?” asked the second.
“Well, he wore a cowboy hat, cowboy boots & kept both the
hat & the boots on all the time we were together.”

“Sounds like a cowboy, all right,” the others agree.

“I entertained a lawyer,” announced the second. “I could tell
because he wore a three piece suit & carried a briefcase. He
wore the vest of the suit & hung on to the briefcase all
the time.”

They all agreed he sounded like a lawyer.

“I had a sheep farmer for a client,” commented the third.

“How could you possibly know he was a farmer?” one asked.

“First he complained it was too dry, then he moaned it was
too wet & then he asked if he could pay me in autumn.”
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November 16, 2013 8:00pm
Redbaiter

Narsekissa short version-

“Please please like me, I’m such a funny guy.”
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November 16, 2013 8:06pm
nasska

Baity’s random abuse of anyone who doesn’t swallow Conservative crap may have genetic roots. 🙂

Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ajlv6koiy4j5ufn/Conservonutter%205.jpg
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November 16, 2013 8:27pm
Steve (North Shore)

Troll Alert, Redblatter is hunting cork soakers
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November 16, 2013 8:29pm
stigie

Time for Red to go to bed.
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November 16, 2013 8:37pm
Redbaiter

Narsekissa would already be there Stigie, except his sister is not back from feeding the pigs yet.
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November 16, 2013 8:43pm
Judith

@ kowtow (5,747) Says:
November 16th, 2013 at 4:49 pm

Sometimes its hard to tell humour, especially when there are none of the usual visual/tone cues.

My knowledge of the prison system doesn’t come from the internet.
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November 16, 2013 8:47pm
PhilP

Fuck I love GD at this time of the night. In the words of Miranda Hart’s Mother on the comedy show “Such Fun”
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November 16, 2013 8:48pm
wat dabney

“Truth is the jury’s still out on whether the frequency of tropical cyclones will increase in association with global warming.”

Which I think was my point.

On the basis of no evidence whatsoever – indeed, in flat contradiction of the evidence there is – Russel Norman dragged dead babies from their shallow graves and plastered Green Party stickers all over them.
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November 16, 2013 8:48pm
Steve (North Shore)

“Is John Key the Worst PM National Have Ever Produced”
Posted on some weird blog 4 days ago, there are 17 comments with 6 of them posted by Redblatter.
One third of the comments are from Redblatter.
Trueblue is not a blog – it is a fucking chatroom
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November 16, 2013 8:48pm
Judith

Viking2 (10,138) Says:
November 16th, 2013 at 5:27 pm
I believe in the power of freedom.

Being philosophical here, but is the power in the freedom, or in the threat of losing it/being without it?
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November 16, 2013 8:51pm
nasska

….”Trueblue is not a blog – it is a fucking chatroom”…..

A chatroom with bad acoustics Steve……we get the echo over here. 🙂
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November 16, 2013 8:52pm
Judith

@ nasska (8,085) Says:
November 16th, 2013 at 8:52 pm

So Trueblue isn’t a porno site then?
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November 16, 2013 8:53pm
Redbaiter

Steve, I’d prefer it if you kept away, but if you really can’t help yourself and are desperate for something to read, I’ll post some Cat in the Hat excerpts for you.
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November 16, 2013 8:55pm
stigie

Nasska, whats this arrangement with your sister that Reddy keeps going on about ?
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November 16, 2013 8:55pm
nasska

It’s got a new kink Judith…..the host plays with himself while typing on a keyboard. 🙂
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November 16, 2013 8:57pm
Redbaiter

That Stigie, he’s clearly part of the intellectual powerhouse that is Kommieblog.
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November 16, 2013 8:57pm
nasska

Baity has problem distinguishing between rural Wairarapa & Appalachia stigie.

Easy mistake I guess. 🙂
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November 16, 2013 9:00pm
Redbaiter

Sorry Jude, you poor thing.

But keep looking.

I’m sure you’ll find some sexual relief somewhere.
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November 16, 2013 9:02pm
Redbaiter

I can see Narsekissa likes you Stigie.

That’s because you’re a brain dead little commie crawler like he is himself.
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November 16, 2013 9:03pm
Steve (North Shore)

See? I told you he is a troll. He is enticing me over to his chatroom to read Dr Suess.
But I am a grown man, not a child Redblatter. Are you trying to attract the attention of children? just asking
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November 16, 2013 9:04pm
Judith

@ Redbaiter (6,412) Says:
November 16th, 2013 at 9:02 pm

You get sexual relief from looking?

Oh you poor thing – how embarrassing, no wonder you spend so much time in here – going out in public must be difficult.
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November 16, 2013 9:05pm
Redbaiter

“But I am a grown man, not a child Redblatter.”

I bet that’s what your mummy and daddy tell you Stevie right?
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November 16, 2013 9:07pm
nasska

There’s nothing sinister about Baity’s reference to Cat in the Hat excerpts Steve.

It’s just that his posts appeal to that age group. 🙂
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November 16, 2013 9:08pm
Redbaiter

“You get sexual relief from looking?”

How’s that work Jude,

You were the one seeking porn.

I was only trying to help.

It’s OK, I understand how things are for women your age.
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November 16, 2013 9:10pm
stigie

Time to wipe down your monitor and go to bed Red or your fan base will get depleted ….!
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November 16, 2013 9:11pm
Steve (North Shore)

Some people are giving you the red downtick Redblatter. It is not me, I think red thumbsdown is childish.
Green upvote is fine and I do that sometimes. So ask yourself – who is not being nice to you Redblatter?
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November 16, 2013 9:12pm
Redbaiter

“It’s just that his posts appeal to that age group.”

That’s rich coming from a pathetic infantile loser who posts links to cartoons all day.
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November 16, 2013 9:13pm
Judith

Dear Red,

who needs to go in search for porn when they can stay here and listen to you talk dirty.
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November 16, 2013 9:15pm
Redbaiter

“Time to wipe down your monitor and go to bed Red or your fan base will get depleted ….!”

I think its time you packed it in actually Stigie, seeing as I’ve read that kind of comment a thousand times before.

An unarmed man like yourself shouldn’t be wasting time and effort trying to engage in any battle of wit.
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November 16, 2013 9:17pm
Steve (North Shore)

““But I am a grown man, not a child Redblatter.”

I bet that’s what your mummy and daddy tell you Stevie right?”

I see you are upvoting yourself again Redblatter, isn’t that why WhaleOil kicked your arse bad
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November 16, 2013 9:17pm
Redbaiter

“who needs to go in search for porn when they can stay here and listen to you talk dirty.”

Funny you should say that, I think that’s the same reason Narsekissa likes my comments. He’s about your age. Why don’t you hunt him down.

Watch out for his sister and the green eyed monster though.
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November 16, 2013 9:19pm
Redbaiter

“I see you are upvoting yourself again Redblatter, isn’t that why WhaleOil kicked your arse bad”

I see that as usual Steve, cowardice is your first refuge.

Even if you are one day going to grow up, I doubt you’ll ever amount to much more than a disgusting little yellow backed sack of shit.
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November 16, 2013 9:21pm
Steve (North Shore)

Enough of feeding the Troll, now he is all stoked up, the ignore the bastard – let him wallow in his own shit on Trueblue
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November 16, 2013 9:22pm
Redbaiter

What a shame you couldn’t do that Stevie.

If you weren’t such a screaming little attention seeking wet nappy narcissist you might be able to.
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November 16, 2013 9:25pm
Left Right and Centre

Nov 8 was a long time ago – and now there’s not so much time to go….

In the mean time you can search high and low….

GD wings have been clipped from it’s glorious free thought flow….
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