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Longknives

GD is slip-sliding towards a ‘Bain thread’! Nooooo………
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November 12, 2013 5:03pm
Rowan

Nosty
Another question for him to ask Robin beyond the grave, Do you think they might have a new target now, I see the Lundy case following suit and becoming another train wreck like the crown case against DB. Will be entertaining.
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November 12, 2013 5:03pm
Longknives

I repeat- Nooooooo…..
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November 12, 2013 5:08pm
goldnkiwi

Viva la free speech and principles. 😉 Down with the bullies.
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November 12, 2013 5:11pm
Nostalgia-NZ

My apologies LK.
No Rowan I don’t think so with the Lundy case. It seems to be falling into a category of ‘I don’t know if he’s innocent or not but the police case is short of the mark.’ Probably also it’s a less complicated case where the scientist’s came up with ‘sniff’ tests to determine time of death and letters were hidden which show ‘prime’ evidence was flawed. A more easily to follow ‘setting up’ once, and only when, it got to a superior Court.
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November 12, 2013 5:15pm
Fletch

The Ozzies won’t be signing up to any new climate deals.
Now if only we’d adopt some of our neighbour’s common sense as well.

Federal cabinet has ruled that Australia will not sign up to any new contributions, taxes or charges at this week’s global summit on climate change, in a significant toughening of its stance as it plans to move within days to repeal the carbon tax.

Cabinet ministers have decided to reject any measures of “socialism masquerading as environmentalism” after meeting last week to consider a submission on the position the government would take to the Warsaw conference. …

The Australian has seen part of the document and it declares that, while Australia will remain “a good international citizen” and remains “committed to achieving the 5 per cent reduction” by 2020 of the 2000 levels of emissions, it will not sign up to any new agreement that involves spending money or levying taxes. …

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/policy/climate-tax-aid-and-fees-off-table-as-cabinet-toughens-stance/story-e6frg6xf-1226756955449#
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November 12, 2013 6:26pm
muggins

I see my bumbuddy is back.
And in answer to a question recently put.
The reason why Robin Bain did not take the silencer off the rifle is because he couldn’t because he was dead from being shot by “the only one who deserved to stay”.
And wasn’t it interesting how easy that international jurist was fooled by David Bain?.
He was pretty sure David Bain looked at his watch at Heath Street, but David told him it was at the bottom of Every Street and guess what? When he wrote his report Binnie said Bain looked at his watch at the bottom of Every Street.
And Bain didn’t just fool Binnie once, he fooled him a number of times.
But I don’t wish to change this into a David Bain thread do I will say no more for the time being. But I will be keeping an eye on my bumbuddy,
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November 12, 2013 6:35pm
Rowan

Nosty agree with your observations but I think ML has even less public opinion on his side than DB, hopefully there may be another legal precedent in place before the mob start defaming Geoff Levick and Lundys supporters with their broomsticks. Who needs evidence?
I may be getting ahead of myself. We shall see.
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November 12, 2013 6:37pm
Rowan

I only need to read the last two sentences of the above twaddle to realise its not worth the time of day.
Piss off Muggins do you mind not posting something stupid every time someone posts something you disagree with!
PS I am not your bumbuddy and never claimed to be so STFU!
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November 12, 2013 6:39pm
Manolo

The Pom’s yellow press at its shit-stirring worst: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/newzealand/10442561/England-v-New-Zealand-All-Blacks-players-told-we-are-the-most-dominant-team-in-history.html
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November 12, 2013 7:32pm
goldnkiwi

Geoff Levick seems to be a very humble man. I guess a media circus isn’t necessary to get a result then.
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November 12, 2013 7:37pm
Johnboy

Kill an innocent girl with a shotgun, admit to liking sheep, pick on a pretend pollie when you are disguised as a parrot yourself and you’re fucked on KB! 🙂
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November 12, 2013 8:06pm
Johnboy

I see a bright new future with National and Colin’s mob. What say you all? 🙂
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November 12, 2013 8:10pm
nasska

Two poor kids were invited by a rich kid to a swimming
party at his pool.

When they were changing into their swim trunks, one turned
to the other and said: “Did you notice the small dicks on
the rich kids?”

The other answered: “Yeah! It’s probably because they have
toys to play with!”
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November 12, 2013 8:11pm
Dennis Horne

Anyone think Kea is a bird? 🙂 🙂 🙂
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November 12, 2013 8:12pm
Johnboy

No Murri. No Dunny. No Banksie. No Winnie.

AND BEST OF ALL NO CUNTI/WINNIE/ NORMIE!!!! 🙂
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November 12, 2013 8:12pm
nasska

I can see the coalition slogan now JB…..”New Zealand – the way God wants it.”
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November 12, 2013 8:13pm
Johnboy

Thanks for the down thumbs Nosty/Judith. 🙂
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November 12, 2013 8:13pm
Johnboy

I’ve never said that’s the way I want it nasska. It’s just that the current alternative is even worse! 🙂
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November 12, 2013 8:18pm
nasska

There have been no shortage of vultures gathering to pick at his carcase anyway Dennis. 🙂
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November 12, 2013 8:19pm
Dennis Horne

The adversarial system, especially for complex cases, is an anachronism. The best lawyer usually wins. Inquisitorial system is more likely to get to closer to the truth. It’s scientific in method.
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November 12, 2013 8:20pm
nasska

I dunno JB….anything to keep the Greens out but it’ll choke me to see the Godfreaks stuffing up NZ.
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November 12, 2013 8:23pm
stigie

Shit, ole Reddy was wound up like a clock spring again today chaps.

Gotta feel for him at times !~
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November 12, 2013 8:23pm
Dennis Horne

stigie (344) Says: November 12th, 2013 at 8:23 pm. Ole Reddy was wound up like a clock spring again today chaps. Gotta feel for him at times

Don’t. It’s what keeps him ticking… 😉
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November 12, 2013 8:25pm
Johnboy

The Inquisition always sorted things out Dennis! 🙂

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5Df191WJ3o
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November 12, 2013 8:25pm
nasska

It’s getting harder to do a good job of winding Baity up stigie. Still, when he goes right off the effort seems worth it. 🙂
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November 12, 2013 8:28pm
Dennis Horne

There was an old coot called Rowan
Whose head was swollen and glowin’
He defends psycho Bain
Despite all the pain
And circles his brain must go in.
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November 12, 2013 8:34pm
nasska

“I can’t believe it” she cried “In the restaurant you promised me a whole night of sweaty sex with your 12 inch cock and the greatest orgasms I had ever had. Instead you whip out that maggot and cum on my handbag as soon as I take my top off”

“I’m sorry. I didn’t think I was going to have to deliver” replied the Mayor.
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November 12, 2013 8:37pm
Dennis Horne

There was an lag called Nosty
Whose welcome from nasska was frosty
“I don’t give a fuck”
He said, “With my luck,
The sentence I’ll get will be costly.”
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November 12, 2013 8:40pm
Judith

Johnboy (11,832) Says:
November 12th, 2013 at 8:13 pm
Thanks for the down thumbs Nosty/Judith.

Terribly sorry old chap, only just logged in. Wasn’t me, my dear. Besides why would I ? You aren’t a bother – I only thumbs down the complete fools, you haven’t made it to that grade (YET) 😉
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November 12, 2013 8:42pm
stigie

Yea, but the entertainment value is just superb Nasska.
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November 12, 2013 8:44pm
nasska

The sport is best when Davinci’s here stigie…..he’s an expert at getting the old tusker LBW. 🙂
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November 12, 2013 8:48pm
Dennis Horne

There was an old girl called Jude
Whose thought process is ever so crude
And try as she might
She is never quite right
So she contents herself by not being lewd.
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November 12, 2013 8:49pm
Judith

@ Dennis

You’re not a complete fool either. However, I’m not sure about your delusions of grandeur (You aren’t Keats). Has there been any experiments done on the harmful effects of the chemicals involved in Dentistry? I think there might be a correlation.
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November 12, 2013 9:05pm
Rowan

Denny’s ability as a poet closely resembles his understanding of complex criminal cases and why dentists should stick to dentistry and not try to become experts in other fields well beyond their expertise.
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November 12, 2013 9:06pm
muggins

Rowan,
Whatever made you think it was you I was referring to when I used the word “bumbuddy”?
Rowan, Binnie appears to believe that David Bain was wearing those glasses on the Sunday prior, but he does not think those glasses link him to the murder of his brother.
Would you care to try and explain to me how the mind of an International jurist works, because I’m buggered if I can figure it out.
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November 12, 2013 9:10pm
Johnboy

What should I do to become a complete fool then Judith?

Bearing in mind that I am seeking qualifications towards employment as a village idiot somewhere! 🙂
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November 12, 2013 9:14pm
Dennis Horne

@Judith. I’m not Keats and you’re not Bob Hope. In fact I see no Hope.

@Rowan. I graduated MSc from one of the top universities in the world. I am quite capable of analysing complex material. You, on the other hand, are a semi-illiterate simpleton. You couldn’t do a decent put-down if you tried, and you’re always trying, very trying.
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November 12, 2013 9:23pm
Rowan

Maybe he has a few more brain cells than you Muggins and can actually understand the evidence. I’m not here to converse with liars so you can work this one out for yourself.

Dennis I’m sure you have expert qualifications as a dentist and can solve all matters to do with teeth, and no I wasn’t trying to ‘put you down’, your poetry and your ‘expertise’ as a ‘CSI investigator’ is laughable rather than insulting. Its on par with your urology efforts.
LMAO
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November 12, 2013 9:30pm
Johnboy

Dennis of science is a master
His poetry more a disaster
Judy has bitten
He’s toothy and smitten
His excuse’s will just be a plaster! 🙂
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November 12, 2013 9:31pm
thedavincimode

I would like to apologise. One flippant remark and the Bainiacs come whistling out of the woodwork.

Note to self: Do not mention D B***. Do not mention G**.
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November 12, 2013 9:36pm
nasska

Go & join Kea on the naughty step. 🙂
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November 12, 2013 9:37pm
thedavincimode

I’m ashamed nasska. I knew what would happen but did it anyway. I couldn’t help myself. I was just sick to death of prog commie homo raghead blah blah blah. I needed some light relief. 🙁

At least muggins is here to fight the good fight.
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November 12, 2013 9:42pm
Johnboy

All the Kea’s I’ve ever met were lovely birds. They were all Mainlander’s too.

Hard to believe that one Mainlander would turn on another like that! 🙂
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November 12, 2013 9:44pm
Rowan

Dennis
On a much less complex case than the Bain case in terms of a really simple straightforward case.
Yes or no, do you believe the police fantasy story that Teina Pora was Malcolm Rewa’s accomplice in the rape and murder of Susan Burdett i.e. that Teina Pora is innocent?

DVM
It is the fruitloop trying to turn this into a DB thread, notice no one is engaging with it!
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November 12, 2013 9:47pm
Judith

@ DVM

Well that’s one remark that can’t be meant for me. I was already here.

What a vulnerable young man you must be to feel the need to silence any opposition with the only tool in your box. As I said today, when a person isn’t intelligent enough to argue each issue on the merits of the topic and their belief, they turn to the Bain issue. I guess you are hoping no one notices your incompetence in most debates on other issues.

You do it every time you can’t sustain an intelligent conversation. But don’t worry, its something a lot of small little men do. One day you’ll grow some balls and not have to depend on Bain to defend yourself.
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November 12, 2013 9:47pm
muggins

Rowan,
I am not asking a liar to converse with anyone.
I am just asking you how an International jurist can come up with such an incomprehensible decision.
Could I also ask you this. If Binnie believed that David Bain was wearing those glasses on the Sunday prior, then he must have also believed that Bain lied on oath about them. That being the case would you not have thought that it might have occurred to the International jurist that if Bain was prepared to lie on oath about those glasses then he might also be prepared to lie to him in reply to at least some of the questions he put to him?
In other words, why would Binnie believe anything David Bain told him?
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November 12, 2013 9:50pm
Judith

Johnboy (11,836) Says:
November 12th, 2013 at 9:14 pm

You’ll never be the village idiot Johnboy. You’re too busy being the village bully. But don’t worry, we all know how insecure bullies usually are. One day someone will love you, whose name isn’t ‘baa ba raa’.
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November 12, 2013 9:50pm
thedavincimode

Goodness me Judith. I think your slip is showing.
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November 12, 2013 9:51pm
Johnboy

IT WAS YOU who knitted David’s jumper Judith! 🙂
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November 12, 2013 9:51pm
Judith

muggins (2,759) Says:
November 12th, 2013 at 9:50 pm

So you do know what a lie is? Perhaps you could tell us why you chose to lie about the emails you said you had got from the police then?
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November 12, 2013 9:51pm
thedavincimode

She doesn’t love you Johnboy. Sorry. 🙁
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November 12, 2013 9:52pm
nasska

Back to Flossie. 🙂
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November 12, 2013 9:53pm
thedavincimode

Johnboy

It wasn’t DB’s jumper that she knitted. It was Binnie’s report.
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November 12, 2013 9:54pm
Judith

Johnboy (11,837) Says:
November 12th, 2013 at 9:51 pm
IT WAS YOU who knitted David’s jumper Judith!

No that was his mother. She knitted jerseys for all the family members. Are you looking for someone to knit you your next straight jacket?
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November 12, 2013 9:54pm
Judith

@ thedavincimode (5,521) Says:
November 12th, 2013 at 9:54 pm

It’s interesting that you think the dead can communicate.
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November 12, 2013 9:55pm
thedavincimode

… or the demented waterwoman 🙁
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November 12, 2013 9:55pm
Johnboy

After you’ve finished Joe Karam’s Judith! 🙂
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November 12, 2013 9:56pm
Rowan

Yawn
Cursed dementia, what was it I previously typed again, oh that’s right the name of the Bains dog is spelt Kaycee, maybe she was the killer or maybe it was the goat, that’s more plausible than any of muggins arguments here, time for some more meds and to see the doctor again to get an increase in the dose.
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November 12, 2013 9:57pm
Johnboy

Yvette may still love me even though I have strayed amongst the flock! 🙂
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November 12, 2013 9:57pm
thedavincimode

Did the magpie come home Johnboy, or was it a case of unmistaken identity on my part??

Or maybe it was just standing innocently outside a nightclub when one of your new friends happened by …
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November 12, 2013 9:58pm
Johnboy

I feed two magpies Leonardo. They are both named after Phil.

He is named Phillup and she is named Phillus!
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November 12, 2013 10:01pm
thedavincimode

I imagine that neither of them work for a living.
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November 12, 2013 10:02pm
Johnboy

The bastards turn their beaks up at normal, cheap luncheon sausage and will only eat Tegel chicken luncheon Leonardo.

They are starting to get fussy over what cheese I offer to them as well.
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November 12, 2013 10:05pm
cha

I wonder if El Guava likes em’ thin.
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November 12, 2013 10:09pm
Yvette

Off all occupations likely to lead to suicide
Dentistry’s number one, has place of pride
Consequent without any doubt
Of looking in sad mouths and up bad nostrils we wouldn’t
And seeing down so much alluring cleavage he shouldn’t
It’s a wonder poor Dennis is still about.
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November 12, 2013 10:24pm
thedavincimode

There ya go JB. You only have to call.

Looks like you’ve still got that magic.
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November 12, 2013 10:28pm
Dennis Horne

@Rowan. Actually, I studied general pathology for a year under the late Prof Jim Gwynne. I’ve forgotten pathology than you ever knew or are ever likely to.

Jim Gwynne gave evidence that a man might reasonably kill himself with 400ml of urine in his bladder. I can’t disagree with that. What I can disagree with it is that it is very likely that after fighting and killing four people, and having a very thorough wash or shower, and changing his clothes, and typing on the computer, and loading the rifle, he would still have 400ml in his bladder.

If you weren’t a halfwit, Rowan, you would understand that MSc is master of science. You know, where knowledge and reasoning counts, not wishful thinking and balderdash.
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November 12, 2013 10:29pm
Redbaiter

What a wasteland.

Prog heaven.
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November 12, 2013 10:29pm
thedavincimode

cha

??? Is that the Doc?? I’m lost (again).
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November 12, 2013 10:30pm
Johnboy

Je suis heureux d’être un idiot dans votre village Yvette! 🙂
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November 12, 2013 10:32pm
thedavincimode

We just love it when you visit big guy.

How long to wipe your shit off the walls tonight?
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November 12, 2013 10:32pm
RF

Am I the only one that has noticed miss Micky savage who is the new leader of the standard is getting bold with some of her statements since the silent t has gained temporary leadership of the Labour Party.

Make the most of it Micky as Grant and co are waiting in the wings.
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November 12, 2013 10:35pm
Yvette

Mais, Johnboy, ne serait-ce que laisser Wainuiomata totalement befert?
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November 12, 2013 10:37pm
thedavincimode

RF

Even more bold than the deity Cunners? Implausible.
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November 12, 2013 10:38pm
Dennis Horne

There’s no doubt with Yvette
I’d enjoy a tête-à-tête
But sadly she’s married
And I’m pretty much harried
So I’ll need another poor fish to net.
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November 12, 2013 10:39pm
Rowan

Dennis
I am not claiming to know more dentistry, medicine than you, or give a shit if you have this qualification or that, whatever.
Your logical reasoning is ridiculous.
I asked a very simple straightforward yes/no question at 9.47, it did not require spouting of about whatever medical qualifications you have and how this makes you a great CSI expert. You have been watching to much TV.
How much attention were you paying in pathology lessons on the feasibility of shooting someone in the position it would have required a gunman to shoot Robin in?
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November 12, 2013 10:40pm
Johnboy

Nous avons un des plus grands idiots mondes Trev Mallard Yvette. Je ne peux pas rivaliser avec l’un comme lui !
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November 12, 2013 10:41pm
Yvette

You should just be yourself, Johnboy – everyone else is taken
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November 12, 2013 10:46pm
Rowan

And speaking of Dr Gwynne Dennis, who I can safely say had a lot more knowledge of pathology than you. What was his opinion on the matter of whether or not Mr Bains death was self inflicted or not? Unsurprisingly Dr Dempsters original post mortem notes came back with exactly the same conclusion!
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November 12, 2013 10:48pm
Dennis Horne

@Moron. Moron.
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November 12, 2013 10:49pm
Johnboy

It’s far more fun pretending to be an Village Idiot Yvette! 🙂
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November 12, 2013 10:51pm
Johnboy

That’s a damn good rhyming couplet Dennis. 🙂
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November 12, 2013 10:52pm
Rowan

Oh that the best that poor Denny can do
Truth hurts doesn’t it f…wit
Suck it up
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November 12, 2013 10:55pm
Dennis Horne

Are you assuming the mantle “Moron”, Rowan?
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November 12, 2013 11:03pm
Gulag1917

Brilliant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKerbOi_mrI&feature=share
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November 12, 2013 11:52pm
Ryan Sproull

Gulag, do you have any recommendations on how best to wipe the smugness off my screen after watching that video? It’s awful thick.
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November 13, 2013 12:15am
Gulag1917

Try the same stuff that wiped TV screens in New Zealand and Australia during the 1999 East Timorese crisis
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November 13, 2013 12:33am
Manolo

The Kenyan’s soldiers: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/363699/truth-about-navigators-john-fund
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November 13, 2013 6:19am
Pete George

Massive finish to the cricket. Duckworth Lewis has seemed to rule out any chance for the Black Caps and they made a terrible start to the chase but finished with a bang. One of their better wins.
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November 13, 2013 7:22am
big bruv

PG

How can you watch that stuff with Danny Morrison ruining the commentary.
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November 13, 2013 7:36am
Pete George

Morrison is to commentaries what Herath is to final overs but I don’t listen much, I multi task with watching TV and Cricinfo. But yeah, Danny M is very naughty.
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November 13, 2013 7:54am
stephieboy

Manolo (11,204) Says:
November 13th, 2013 at 6:19 am

I see James O’ Keefe is in cahoots with the Prince of Paranoia,

http://www.prisonplanet.com/obamas-war-on-democracy-with-james-okeefe.html

Enough said.!
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