About
Contact
Advertise

Facebook
Twitter

October 7, 2013 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 7 October 2013

Email
Facebook
Twitter
Comment138

Uncategorized
General Debate

Comments (138)

Login to comment or vote

Yvette

Global warming / climate change may not be such a problem after all
As soon as November even –

At Fukushima Unit 4, the impending removal of hugely radioactive spent fuel rods from a pool 100 feet in the air presents unparalleled scientific and engineering challenges. With the potential for 15,000 times more fallout than was released at Hiroshima, we ask the world community, through the United Nations, to take control of this uniquely perilous task.
http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/the-world-community-must

The above petition is being presented to Ban Ki-Moon, Secretary-General, United Nations and Barack Obama, President, United States of America, which could be a fucking big mistake but their agencies may still be better than TEPCO.
3 2
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 8:01am
Ian McK

I take strong exception to Faifax running an article declaring our PM should be addessing the problem of left-wing scum masquerading under the guise of Greenpeace being taken by Russians. These deadbeats hopefully, will receive the treatment they deserve, something that would not happen here. Remember the pathetic penalties handed to the mongrels at New Plymouth . . . effen joke.
32 4
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 8:01am
Dennis Horne

We’re here due to radiation and maybe a bit more radiation will put us on another evolutionary path. Better luck next time, God. 🙂

Actually, the level of radiation in the oceans won’t rise much, hard to believe as that is.

In any case the Americans should sort it out, it was one of their wretched poorly-designed plants. They were quick enough to make BP pay for the clean up in the Gulf, even though the accident was a caused by an American company — under contract to BP.
5 2
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 8:26am
Griff

I take exception to homo phobic bigots masquerading as right wing commentators on this blog and believe that such lowly life forms should be exposed, derided and humiliated at any opportunity.

I extend this to all authoritarians who refuse to recognize the judicatory as the arbitrators of law not their particular brand of political extremism.
13 25
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 8:40am
hj

“New Zealand’s Most Racist Economist” – The Standard (Thought Police)
Pure gold.

While immigration played a key role in house inflation in the three years after 2001 (Reserve
Bank 2007), it is unknown to what extent on-going immigration continued to drive price rises.
The housing boom has meant good profits for many New Zealand companies supplying
materials and building services, but it implies investors would rather invest in their country’s
homes rather than its businesses (Bollard 2005). The high returns for property has attracted
finance and reduced the capital available for productive investment (Moody, 2006). The
consequence is investment is going in to industries with limited capacity to increase per capita
incomes. For example, real estate and building are domestically bound and do not have the
market potential of export industries. They also have less opportunity to increase productivity
through new processes and products. The irony is, as these sectors grow, they have incurred
skills shortages which in turn has increased demand for skilled immigrants. The Department
of Statistics ‘Long Term Skill Shortage List’ of 28/3/2006 includes carpenter/joiner, plumber,
electricians, fitter and turners, fitter welders; all indicative of a nation building its
construction/property sector.
There is a danger that a sector of the economy is being augmented that is totally reliant on a
small domestic economy. Not only do these industries have limited potential for per-capita
growth but ‘deriving growth via factor inputs such as labour places pressure on infrastructure
such as transport and land supply, and ultimately have a further negative impact on growth
(ARC 2005). Finally, as the sector gets larger, it gains in lobbying/political strength and can
lobby for immigration regardless if it is the best interests of the economy as a whole. This
could be seen in Canada where the development industry has lobbied hard for high sustained
immigration levels (Ley and Tutchener 2001).

Growing pains Greg Clydesdale
Tut, tut and more tut.
4 1
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 8:44am
Keeping Stock

@ Ian McK – Key has already stated clearly that New Zealand will not try to interfere with another country’s legal system with regard to the Greenpeace “activists”. That is entirely a proper response.
28 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 8:45am
peterwn

See:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/9250444/Key-urged-to-speak-up-for-Kiwi-activists

Why is no one holding Greenpeace accountable for the arrest of its activists in Russia? Why does Greenpeace put its activists at risk particularly when they have partners and families? Did Greenpeace make any real effort to explain to David Haussmann and his partner Sarah Watson (for example) the risks involved. Perhaps Sarah would have put her foot down and said ‘don’t go’.

I guess the Greenpeace fatcats in Holland are quite happy to organize thees protests as long as they are not at potential risk of being put in crappy jails, working in salt mines, etc.

Message to Sarah Wilson, Gareth Hughes, etc. John Key can do no more than offer normal consular assistance in cases such as this, otherwise he is seen as effectively condoning Greenpeace actions. He would look very two faced if he did more than oormal consular assistance in this case, then had to deal with a Greenpeace protest on NZ’s interests in the future, especially as Greenpeace would see NZ as an easy target.
15 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 8:47am
Ian McK

Griff: You appear to be a left-wing loser having the guts of a whitebait. Go crawl under a rock or something more sinister.
11 13
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 8:50am
Camryn

hj – That quoted post also makes a mistaken statement that we have little room for productivity growth in housing construction. We’re actually pretty terrible and there’s a lot we could do. Too much bespoke construction, not enough rapid assembly from standard factory-built components.
2 4
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 8:51am
ciaron

Don’t ya just love it when the Weekend Rossi’s exit a corner on a line that takes them under your car?

In the shortish stretch of road between Barry’s Bay and the Top Of The Hill on the Christchurch Akaroa highway, three of them just about rode up my door and two more tried to ride around the outside of cars mid corner. Do these guys have a death wish or do they just have very very small dicks?
11 1
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 8:51am
Keeping Stock

Agree wholeheartedly peterwn – Greenpeace will have known that poking the Russian bear with a stick is likely to provoke a response, but now Greenpeace is crying crocodile tears all across the world BECAUSE Russia responded.

This has very little to do with what happens to the “activists”, but everything to do with Greenpeace trying to engender sympathy, with the assistance of a compliant media. In reality, the families of the jailed “activists” should be directing their anger at Greenpeace, who put their family members in a dangerous situation in the first place.
14 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 8:55am
Longknives

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/9250444/Key-urged-to-speak-up-for-Kiwi-activists

Why is ‘Activist’ David Haussmann dressed as a leprechaun?
Was he trying to scare the Russians into not drilling?
0 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 8:56am
Griff

Or do they have an equal right to share the road with other users?
It sounds as if you were trying to pass them on a corner and interfered with their legal use of the road.
They have the same right as you to inhabit a lane. courtesy dictates they allow you to pass the law dictates you allow them safe use of the road.
5 11
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 8:59am
RRM

ciaron – some people I know are remorseless about brake checking tailgating bikers mid corner. Apparently it makes them back right off…
4 3
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 9:01am
ciaron

I’d give that a try, but I would feel responsible if he but his bike down and went under the car coming the other way. -And thats the position I was in, these idiots coming down the hill at pace, while I was going up, you have nowhere to go if he loses it then you’ve run over him. While I’d be not at fault, I find it hard to be cold about that.
8 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 9:07am
Left Right and Centre

Well said that person

Now don’t get me wrong, there’s nothing wrong with McDonald’s. I just don’t happen to eat there. For much the same reason I don’t drink instant coffee, or wipe with newspaper* – I just feel there are better options.
6 1
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 9:08am
ciaron

Griff (6,194) Says:

October 7th, 2013 at 8:59 am
Or do they have an equal right to share the road with other users?
It sounds as if you were trying to pass them on a corner and interfered with their legal use of the road.
They have the same right as you to inhabit a lane. courtesy dictates they allow you to pass the law dictates you allow them safe use of the road.

you’re kidding right? these guys (weekend Rossi’s) show no respect to “lanes” or “safe use of the road” or indeed anyone else just trying to get home.
9 2
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 9:11am
MT_Tinman

Ciaron, very small dicks and smaller brains.

Yesterday whole swarms of the pests were seen polluting thick fog with no lighting or other warning apparel.

RRM, fitting a crash bar to the rear first is a good idea.

Griff, it sounds nothing of the sort.
9 3
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 9:11am
Dennis Horne

Not certain of the law here, but in the UK it is quite clear, and I guess it’s similar here. You pass a cyclist on the same basis as you overtake a car. If necessary that means crossing the centre line. It doesn’t mean whizzing past just missing. The cyclist has exactly the same right to be there as you have. Tough I know but that be the law.
9 2
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 9:14am
dime

LMAO @ the Greenpeace idiots.

Hopefully they do a long stretch. It would be a shame for them to be out after 3 months, come home as martyrs etc.
17 2
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 9:15am
ciaron

Missed the edit cutoff:

In fact they behave as if any winding piece of highway is their private race track, and anyone on more than two wheels should just get the fuck out of their way. So Griff, as per, you couldn’t be more wrong.
6 2
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 9:16am
ciaron

Oh FFS, MOTORcyclists!
In what parallel univers can a cyclist go faster than a car on the open road, huh? and have you guys never heard of Valantino Rossi?
3 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 9:17am
WineOh

Best way to increase NZ’s organ donor rates?? – Encourage more people to take up motorcycling. And has the extra benefit of freeing up more carparking spaces in town too… its a win-win.
8 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 9:20am
Ed Snack

After seeing all the clamour from the greenpeace types in NZ in the newspapers, is there anywhere we can make a similar plea to the Russians to ask that they keep those same activists imprisoned for as long as possible, say 15 plus years ?
10 1
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 9:30am
Left Right and Centre

ciaron – I started off thinking you meant pushbikes as well.

I think that’s partly because on KB any talk of ‘bike’ usually refers to what others refer to as ‘roadlice’.

I also mistakenly thought of ‘Rossi’ as being a Tour de France rider. Interesting to know how many NZders would know who he is.

And on topic… a lot of them are just hoon outlaws and that’s their source of pleasure. I drive on two wheels and the goal is always the same. Get from A to B. Alive and preferably uninjured. I’ve come off bikes and crashed every form of vehicle there is and even managed to fall over in a heap running once. It teaches one to respect the natural laws and pay attention 🙂

One Harley rider said to me ‘loud pipes save lives’. not long after that I was changing lanes when two Harley riders came out of nowhere doing shit loads of km/h more than 50.
3 4
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 9:32am
hj

Camryn (437) Says:
October 7th, 2013 at 8:51 am

hj – That quoted post also makes a mistaken statement that we have little room for productivity growth in housing construction. We’re actually pretty terrible and there’s a lot we could do. Too much bespoke construction, not enough rapid assembly from standard factory-built components.
……………………

The high returns for property has attracted
finance and *reduced the capital available for productive investment* (Moody, 2006).

Houses are productive investment in a sense but have to be seen in the context of the wider economy (not as an end in itself)
e.g

In 1998, traffic congestion costs were estimated at $755 million per annum (Ibid,1998:6).
Traffic congestion can be linked to the time and cost of moving goods and people, and is felt
to generally dampen productivity overall. These costs are a consequence of population
growth (and increased vehicle use), a clear example of diseconomies of scale that none of the
econometric models included. Expenditure on transport is necessary to deal with congestion.
Since the above estimations were published, the costs of transportation upgrades have been
modified to $17billion, of which 72% is new expenditure. Two billion of this is can be
considered catch-up expenditure, related to deferred replacement and past population growth,
but even deducting this, we are left with $11.2 billion expenditure by 2017 related to
population growth (Houghton 2007). Although it was hoped this will address the congestion
problem, this will not happen. By 2017, an extra 340,000 more people are expected to live in
the Auckland region and, if car ownership remains as high as now, there will be 195,000 more
cars. The result is, despite this expenditure, there will be no improvement in congestion
(Auckland Regional Transport Authority 2005). Average speed will remain at approximately
36kms per hour (Regional Land Transport Committee 2005). Not only does this mean that
tax-payers will get no benefit from their expenditure but infrastructure has been identified as a
significant barrier to investment and growth (Skilling 2006), and this problem will continue to
limit economic development.
Population growth is also placing significant pressure on electricity supply. The four main
drivers of long term electricity demand are demographics including population growth and
household numbers, electricity prices, demand responsiveness, energy intensity, and
economic activity which in itself is affected by population growth. On this basis, the
Electricity Commission (2005:4) projected that electricity demand would increase from
approximately 3.7 Gwh x 104 in 2005 to approximately 7 in 2045. On the basis of these
projections, their scenarios stated that to accommodate demand in 2025, between $13.9 and
$16.5 billion extra would need to be spent (Electricity Commission 2005:110 table.21).
However, these projections are likely to be under-stated. They are based on net migration of
5,000 people per year, but net migration over last 10 years has been around 13,500 per year.
The projections are very sensitive to migration, for example, if raised to 20,000 per year,
demand in 2045 rises from 7 to approximately 8.2 x 104 Gwh (Ibid: Figure.8,p,54).
These infrastructural investments will have a flow on to environment costs. Motor vehicles
are the largest contributor to air pollution in the region and are a significant source of stormwater
contaminants (Auckland Regional Council 1999). There will also be an increase in
noise pollution from the vehicles. Although we can expect huge improvements in nonpolluting
technologies, population pressure will reduce the size of gains. Projections show
that fossil fuel used in transportation will increase between 23-30% (Auckland Regional Land
Transport Strategy, 2004:51). Environmental costs from an expanded electricity network
include the construction of large transmission pylons required to transmit the electricity to
Auckland. These are perceived as significant visual pollution on the rural landscape, while
the proposed damming of rivers is expected to have a significant environmental cost. The
country is now considering nuclear energy, a concept long held distasteful to the country
(Gorman 2005).
0 1
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 9:39am
iMP

Gay community calling for QTopia to close. Bevy of historic issues…

http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2013/10/07/9-more-scandals-gay-community-calling-for-qtopia-to-close/
4 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 9:39am
ciaron

LRC, I saw a lot of bike on the road yesterday, I’d say a third of them were Harley cruiser types, going pretty quick, most with pillions but not doing really stupid stuff. The rest were the motogp replica type bikes; YZR’s, CBR’s etc. putting in a hot lap.
0 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 9:43am
Manolo

The Kenyan continues the demolition of the US economy with more and more extensions to the astronomical debt ceiling. Looking down the abyss.
7 3
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 9:43am
hj

Greg Clydsedales views in contrast to Multiculturalist Spoonley

JESSICA Are we growing as fast as we should?

PAUL No, we’re not, but then all countries in the Western world are in decline, and we are what’s called premature ageing. So not only are we getting a lot more older people – that’s in size – but as a proportion of the population they’re growing because, of course, we’re seeing quite a few young people leave the country.

JESSICA – Let’s talk a little bit about that population spread. Why are so many people moving to Auckland?

PAUL – Well, Auckland – there’s an agglomeration effect, so the bigger Auckland becomes, there more attractive it becomes. It becomes more attractive economically, but it also becomes more attractive as a place to live. And so we’re seeing the sort of perimeters of New Zealand, the regions, beginning to flat-line, so they’re not growing, and we’re now beginning to see the first of regions beginning to decline.

Spoonley gets to be on TV. Boris De Brees gets to be on TV on Clydesdales behalf and the Standard speaks for Labour “New Zealand’s Most Racist Academic”
0 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 9:45am
hj

Whizbang wants to change the prayer in parliament.
http://blog.greens.org.nz/2013/10/03/it-is-time-to-change-parliaments-prayer/

When you get elected you know everything and are way ahead of everyone else. It behoves you to change as much as possible.
1 2
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 9:53am
Griff

Riding a Hardly capable of cornering or stopping safely Davidson is the stupid stuff. The fashion of loud pipes is so everyone looks . I look and laugh that anyone would pay so much for such heaps of shit.

ciaron I apologize. I failed to notice the significance of rossi instead took it you were referring to road lice.
5 3
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 10:04am
James Stephenson

everything to do with Greenpeace trying to engender sympathy, with the assistance of a compliant media.

Greenpeace is a corporation, whose business model is to generate income from donations by selling their product of publicity generating stunts. They and their employees should suck up their costs from this miscalculation just like any other company does when it stuffs up.

If the New Zealanders in question weren’t fully informed of the risks they were running, it’s Greenpeace the government should be demanding answers from, not the Russians.
14 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 10:05am
Weihana

Manolo (10,805) Says:
October 7th, 2013 at 9:43 am

The Kenyan continues the demolition of the US economy with more and more extensions to the astronomical debt ceiling. Looking down the abyss.

The Republicans have it within their power to prevent raising the debt ceiling. They only need continue the idiotic antics they are currently employing. Though, perhaps unlike yourself they are wise to the fact that allowing the US to default is retarded.
4 5
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 10:08am
RRM

It’s coming into summer, if you have babies in the rear of your car please don’t forget.

http://www.pulitzer.org/works/2010-Feature-Writing

Disclaimer:
RRM is not normally moved to tears by things he reads on the internet.
1 1
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 10:14am
Tom Jackson

I think that’s partly because on KB any talk of ‘bike’ usually refers to what others refer to as ‘roadlice’.

Everyone knows that the answer to our cycling problems is snipers.
5 2
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 10:24am
kowtow

ciaron

have you seen this recent case of the weekend biker warriors and the SUV in New York.

Sheer stupidity by the biker who brakes in front of the SUV and gang mentality thuggery that follows.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhYPD73o8kg
5 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 10:40am
Don the Kiwi

“There are three things that Chicago is famous for:

1. Pizzas.
2. Gangsters.
3. Corrupt politicians.

One thing can be said with certainty,

OBAMA IS NOT A PIZZA. “
9 1
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 10:41am
dime

Next year we could be looking at an All Blacks team that includes, SBW, KAINO and Luatua. If they all get on the field at the same time, the world could explode I tells ya!

How long till Ardie Savea becomes an All Black?

He turns 20 soon. This time next year he has gone past Sam Cane?
6 1
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 10:43am
Redbaiter

LRC six uses of the personal pronoun “I” and one of “me” in one message.

Teenage chat room stuff as usual.
3 11
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 10:48am
Dennis Horne

@Tom Jackson. Snipers. The answer to everything in fact.
2 1
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 10:50am
RRM

You get that when people talk about something that happened to them, outside in the big wide world Weddy 😉
4 2
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 10:51am
Dennis Horne

Redbaiter barks like a dog under attack
Biting the occasional writer right back
But he’s all alone
Holding his own
He might as well just crawl up his own crack.
7 2
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 10:51am
Griff

I have had a similar situation develop Kowtow.
The physics of scooter vrs Nissan patrol is such that the bikers lost big time.
Griff 4 Filthy Few 0. 😆
4 2
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 10:52am
Redbaiter

“You get that when people talk about something that happened to them”

You sure do, which is all LRC ever talks about.

Denise too seems to be more interested in drawing attention to herself than making any helpful/ interesting comment.
2 7
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 10:59am
bhudson

One Harley rider said to me ‘loud pipes save lives’.

They are the ‘sound of freedom’; a veritable symphony of liberty.
3 1
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 11:02am
Fletch

Obama goes full Mugabe – people tossed out of their homes with the shutdown theatre.

The government shutdown is being felt close to home for some locals. They say they’re being forced out of private homes on Lake Mead because they sit on federal land.

Joyce Spencer is 77-years-old and her husband Ralph is 80. They’ve been spending most of their time in the family ice cream store since going home isn’t an option.

The Spencers never expected to be forced out of their Lake Mead home, which they’ve owned since the 70s, but on Thursday, a park ranger said they had 24 hours to get out.

“I had to go to town today and buy Ralph undershirts and jeans because I forgot his pants,” Joyce Spencer told Action News.

The Stewart’s Point home sits on federal land, so even though the Spencers own their cabin outright, they’re not allowed in until the government reopens.

Park officials said property owners can visit only to retrieve belongings; they sent Action News a statement which reads in part, “Unfortunately overnight stays are not permitted until a budget is passed and the park can reopen.”

http://www.ktnv.com/news/local/226557661.html
3 3
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 11:05am
RRM

They are the ‘sound of freedom’; a veritable symphony of liberty.

Indeed – the sweet sweet sound of financial salvation for bike repair garages worldwide…
3 1
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 11:05am
ciaron

I’m no poet, but I can butcher with the best 🙂

The night that Dennis Horne was born
his old man beat up the doctor
he clocked the doctor ’cause the doctor said he looked like Chewbacca
the doctor said: Sir, you’re mislead sir, which infers you mistook me,
I did not mean your lovely wife was shacking up with a Wookie.
What I mean, is Wolverine is less hairy than your son.
he looks like Chewie, Baba Booey and a Hong Kong Phoey all in one
to put it mild, your new born child’s completely nutty foo-foo lookin’
I’d shove him back into the oven untill he is done cooking.

-completely ripped from J. P. Ali.
1 1
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 11:06am
Redbaiter

James Stephenson- blogged myself some time ago on when the media were going to start holding Greenpeace corporation accountable for the risky situations its employees are often put in.

Seen other comments of the same nature on other blogs and elsewhere.

So what do we get from the media?

Nothing. They know what they are doing, they know their mission and they don’t want to be diverted.

The NZ media are propagandists more than they are journalists.
7 2
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 11:08am
James Stephenson

Indeed – the sweet sweet sound of financial salvation for bike repair garages worldwide…

Hardly Ableson – the most efficient method of turning petrol into noise, without the byproduct of horsepower.
2 1
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 11:09am
bhudson

James,

There is far more to freedom on the road than horsepower. Having said that, to borrow from a motorcycling journalist of years ago, “I’ve never met a kilowatt I didn’t like.”
2 1
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 11:29am
James Stephenson

@bhudson – you don’t need to tell me, I personally favour 10″ wheels and 2-stroke motors.
0 1
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 11:45am
James Stephenson

The NZ media are propagandists more than they are journalists

Can’t disagree with that. I guess we all inhabit places like this because we know there’s no such thing as “unbiased” so we favour comment and opinion from those who are upfront and honest about what their biases are.
2 1
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 11:57am
Michael

For those who don’t think bicycles are fast – the most recent Tour De France, 4000km of country and mountain roads, average speed of the winner is just over 40.5km/h. I average almost 30km/h on my commute home – which is probably quicker than most cars in rush hour.

But on a completely different note – I’m confused about something. NZ’s population has increased by 214,000 since the last census. The average electorate has 60,000 people. So why only one more electorate? Especially as the South Island increase in population was just over 30,000. Electorate sizes are based on population, not voters…
0 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 12:07pm
iMP

Ratepayers in Christchurch fund QTopia thru Chch City Council. Perhaps pause for reflection…

http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2013/10/07/10-christchurch-city-council-funds-qtopia/
0 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 12:13pm
Keeping Stock

James Stephenson said

If the New Zealanders in question weren’t fully informed of the risks they were running, it’s Greenpeace the government should be demanding answers from, not the Russians.

Agree completely JS. And even Comrade Trotter on RadioLive this morning agreed that Greenpeace ought to have known that its ship would sail into a shitstorm. The partner of one of the New Zealanders expressed doubts about the wisdom of the mission, and was told “She’ll be right”.

Greenpeace is very culpable for 30 of its activists enjoying the facilities of Hotel Gulag at the moment.
7 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 12:20pm
wikiriwhis business

Chris Anderson explains the difference between labor going on strike and politicians holding the people hostage.

Yet again hundreds of thousands of public sector employees are either furloughed or on the job and working without pay (some risking their lives to protect Congressional leaders who are still cashing their checks). Meanwhile, millions of Americans wait anxiously for a resolution that many feel will never come.

It is now felt Obama will dissolve congress as Boris Yeltsin did in Russia (so there is a precedent) actually using the 4th ammendment to do so and could even re write the constitution which media analysts have been barracking for constantly.

http://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/hesaid-op-ed-the-government-is-holding-americans-hostage/
0 3
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 12:21pm
Scott Chris

have you guys never heard of Valantino Rossi?

Wasn’t he an Italian porn star?
3 2
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 12:27pm
Scott Chris

They are the ‘sound of freedom’; a veritable symphony of liberty.

What, like a teenage kid who installs 18 inch sub-woofers in his car? Same diff. Noisy fuckers.
5 1
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 12:38pm
lilman

I see local Komatua had an emotional service for dead whale washed up on a beach.

Apparently the whale made no comment.

As an aside Snow white robbed a bank and John Banks told the truth on the day in question.

Bloody morons.
4 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 12:57pm
ciaron

Wasn’t he an Italian porn star?
LMGTFY
0 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 12:57pm
James Stephenson

Yes Ciaron, but is he, or is he not, gay?
1 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 12:58pm
ciaron

I don’t know James.
If he was, would that make the abovementioned phallicly-challenged also reproductive-organally-confused? it would go a long way to explaining why they behave like they do.
0 1
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 1:06pm
publicwatchdog

What’s your view on this one Kiwibloggers?

Auckland Council Group’s PRIMARY objective is to provide social services for social benefit rather than making a financial return

SO – WHY ARE SO MANY OF THESE SOCIAL SERVICES THEN CONTRACTED OUT TO THE PROFIT-MAKING PRIVATE SECTOR
– WHOSE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE IS ‘MAKING A FINANCIAL RETURN’???

DUH?

http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/EN/planspoliciesprojects/reports/annual_report/Documents/annualreport20122013volume3.pdf

NOTES TO THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS
1 GENERAL INFORMATION

Auckland Council (‘the council’) is a local authority domiciled in New Zealand and governed by the Local Government Act 2002 (‘LGA 2002’) and the Local Government (Auckland) Act 2009 (‘LGAA 2009’).

The council’s principal address is 1 Greys Avenue, Auckland Central, New Zealand.The Auckland Council Group (‘the group’) consists of the ultimate parent, the council and its subsidiaries, associates and jointly controlled entities including council-controlled organisations (‘CCOs’).

All subsidiaries and associates are domiciled in New Zealand. Refer to the investment in other entities note for a list of significant group entities.

The primary objective of the group is to provide services to the Auckland community for social benefit rather than making a financial return.

Accordingly, the council has designated itself and the group as public benefit entities for the purposes of the New Zealand equivalents to International

Financial Reporting Standards (‘NZ IFRS’).

The financial statements are for the year ended 30 June 2013 and were authorised for issue by the council’s governing body on 26 September 2013.

The entities listed below are referred to within these financial statements as follows:

BASIS OF PREPARATION
Statement of compliance

These financial statements are prepared in accordance with New Zealand Generally Accepted Accounting Practice (‘NZ GAAP’), the LGA 2002 and the LGAA 2009. They comply with NZ IFRS and other applicable financial reporting standards, as appropriate for public benefit entities.

Basis of measurement

The financial statements have been prepared on a historical cost basis, with the exception of certain items identified in specific accounting policies. They are presented in New Zealand dollars

(‘NZD’) which is the group’s functional currency and are rounded to the nearest million, unless otherwise stated. All items in the financial statements are stated exclusive of Goods and Services
Tax (‘GST’), except for receivables and payables, which include GST invoiced.

Abbreviation

ACIL
ACPL
A T
ATEED
PoAL
RFA
Watercare
AWDA
Auckland Airport

Entity name

Auckland International Airport Limited
Auckland Waterfront Development Agency Limited
Auckland Council Investments Limited
Auckland Transport
Auckland Tourism, Events and Economic Development Limited
Ports of Auckland Limited
Regional Facilities Auckland __________

______________________________________________________________________________________________

Why are the Auckland Council Group’s ‘books’ NOT open?

Why, in the largest city of the supposedly ‘least corrupt country in the world’, are citizens and ratepayers NOT being given the ‘devilish detail’ of where exactly public monies are being spent, invested and borrowed?

http://www.transparency.org/cpi2012/results

Where’s the TRANSPARENCY?

How can you have ‘transparency’ and ‘accountability’ if there are not proper written records?

Which other Auckland Mayoral candidates (or mainstream media) are asking these HARD questions?

Which other Auckland Mayoral candidates have an ACTION PLAN for genuine transparency?

http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ANTI-CORRUPTION-WHITE-COLLAR-CRIME-CORPORATE-WELFARE-ACTION-PLAN-Ak-Mayoral-campaign-19-July-2013-2.pdf

Penny Bright
0 14
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 1:12pm
cha

When your man doesn’t win – sabotage.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2013/10/05/federal-budget-crisis-months-planning/bhA7OHhAIBvNNincmzdtjJ/story.html
1 4
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 1:14pm
Paulus

Greenpeace knew exactly what they were doing to upset the Russians.

They need the publicity, and therefore sympathy and money from pathetic young people who believe that Greenpeace can save the World.

They are not interested in those arrested or their incarceration – just the World Wide publicity.
They do not care that they will not see the boat again as they have so much money that they can afford as many new ones as they require to attain their end.

Assume that is where Wussel Norman, as he is overseas currently, so that Little Welsh Ginger Hughes is now lead spokesperson for NZ Greens, whilst Wussel is in Amsterdam the HQ of this political organisation.
6 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 1:20pm
Griff

cha
Interesting that the kochs come up yet again as manipulating the usa as their own personal fiefdom.
1 3
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 1:23pm
bhudson

Same diff. Noisy fuckers.

There is a world of difference between their noise and a symphony (symphony of liberty in this case.)

When you next hear that Harley roar by, think not of decibels, but of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

And follow them – after all they’ve clearly found it.
1 2
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 1:40pm
Griff

Dhudson hides a hardly mobile. 😆

poor sad sack

Freedom does not come from riding an overpriced pos .

You will never be free if you allow marketing to dictate your world view.
2 3
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 1:49pm
Chuck Bird

@Griff

I take exception to homo phobic bigots masquerading as right wing commentators on this blog and believe that such lowly life forms should be exposed, derided and humiliated at any opportunity.
I extend this to all authoritarians who refuse to recognize the judicatory as the arbitrators of law not their particular brand of political extremism.

What was that stupid name calling rant in aid of?

Why is it that so many homosexual activist and there bed mates will not use their real full name?

Why is that so many of your homosexuals mates have an interest in underage boys/

Teachers deregistered for inappropriate relationships

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11135810
5 4
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 1:54pm
ciaron

bhudson sells Harleys to blokes going through their mid life crises. 🙂
4 1
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 2:02pm
Elaycee

So the marks on Robin Bain’s fingers were not from gunshot residue after all…..

“These tests have been carried out using accredited experts in controlled conditions with access to the original exhibits and in the presence of Mr Bain’s advocates” said Assistant Commissioner Malcolm Burgess.
“The most likely explanation for the marks on the photographs would seem to be pre-existing damage or injury to the skin on Robin Bain’s thumb.”

So much for the ‘experts’ here who proclaimed they knew better…

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11136233
4 2
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 2:16pm
Griff

take note chuck of demerits handed down today and comment attached
seems my distaste is shared.
2 5
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 2:28pm
Left Right and Centre

Russ being a negative hateful downer as usual.

What’s wrong with teenage chatroom stuff?

It’s not your blog Russ – so stop whining all the time – trying to control people. The more you whine about it the more I want to do it.

In your mind you seem to think you’re better than people who disclose anything that relates to their own experience. That’s up to you. Does that make you ‘right’? According to you maybe. You’re one humanoid. What makes you think that you’re opinion and outlook is ‘right’ and everyone that differs is ‘wrong’? Your set of rules for posting comments. Everyone else should post according to your set of rules.

Been banned from anywhere today mate? Have fun counting up the fuckin pronouns in that one mate.

That’s really depressing that people out there are counting pronouns on the internet. It’s pathetic and gives me no joy at all.
1 2
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 2:42pm
Left Right and Centre

edit: ‘your opinion’ not ‘you’re opinion’ before you start pointing shit out like a retard.
1 2
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 2:46pm
UglyTruth

When you next hear that Harley roar by, think not of decibels, but of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

… and selfish fuckers…
2 3
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 2:47pm
goldnkiwi

Thanks for the link Elaycee, looks like a spoke in the wheel not a slam dunk to me lol.
1 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 3:00pm
Scott Chris

When you next hear that Harley roar by, think not of decibels, but of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Bit hard to when my pursuit of happiness is being gratuitously interfered with. Most Harley mufflers are fine by my estimation – it’s the ones you can hear a mile off that I object to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGyKBFCd_u4
2 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 3:12pm
publicwatchdog

Questions I have asked today of Auckland Council arising from the Auckland Council Group 2012 – 2013 Annual Report

http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/EN/planspoliciesprojects/reports/annual_report/Documents/annualreport20122013volume3.pdf

1) Who are the members of the Auckland Council Treasury Management Steering Group?

2) Who are members of the Council group which is supposed to monitor the activities of the Auckland Council Treasury Management Steering Group?

3) Where are the details that show EXACTLY :

a) Where Auckland Council Group (Auckland Council + CCOs) monies are invested?

ie: The names of the companies in which Auckland Council Group monies are invested, and the amounts?

b) From whom exactly Auckland Council Group is borrowing, what exact amounts and for what purpose?

c) With whom exactly has the Auckland Council Group arranged derivatives investment to cover interest rates and foreign exchange risk?

4) Did any of the previous 8 Councils have investments in derivatives prior to the Auckland Council amalgamation on 1 November 2010?

5) (New question) Did the Auckland Transition Agency enter into any derivatives investments? Please provide details.

Kind regards,

Penny Bright

Auckland Mayoral candidate
0 8
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 3:45pm
Griff

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fag
1. Fag
1. An extremely annoying, inconsiderate person most commonly associated with Harley riders.
2. A person who owns or frequently rides a Harley.
” Look at that fag riding that Harley.”
“Why are these fags always so loud.”
fag annoying harley inconsiderate douchebag
20058 up, 8490 down
4 1
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 4:12pm
kowtow

Hmmmmm how’s that multiculturalism and diversity working for Britain then?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2447720/Clerics-18-mosques-caught-agreeing-marry-girls-14-Four-imams-investigated-undercover-operation.html
1 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 5:30pm
Azeraph

Fuck harley’s, they’re for piss bitchin the guy on the bottom guys. Triumph rocket 2300 eats them all and is worth the racket it producers.
0 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 6:20pm
Left Right and Centre

I’VE GOT FUCKING TELEVISION.

FUCK YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOOOOOOAAAH-HAAA-HOOOOOO

$151.

🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

SHOT CUZ
1 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 6:23pm
Steve (North Shore)

Harley sound is apreciated just like the V8 sound. Chev of course.
No need for power or cubic inches – a stock 350 small block sounds just fine with the right exhaust
2 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 6:25pm
Fletch

LR&C, wait until you find out there’s not much worth watching on it though….
2 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 6:34pm
Griff

Steve (North Shore)
Potatoe Potatoe Potatoe is not a man sound Steve its for girly girls.
This is a mans sound
real 2/ Detroit iron
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m48vyc5beNg
0 1
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 6:36pm
Azeraph

Left Right and Centre (1,716) Says:
October 7th, 2013 at 6:23 pm

You’re joking? That’s how much your t.v cost? Analog? if it is then you’ll need to spend another $151 for a set top box just to watch t.v soon. I’m not joking, the illuminatti and george bush and his cousin “O” have pushed for this since ancient times.
0 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 6:45pm
Pauleastbay

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2446638/Under-hood-Astonishing-glimpse-secretive-rituals-mundane-home-life-Ku-Klux-Klan-members-21st-Century.html

How come theres no black people in these photographs?

These people are just like Rotary with guns, aint’ they?
0 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 6:51pm
Griff

A comment from PEB’s link

People who live in poverty, make bad decisions, are bitter about life circumstances, and isolate themselves are the best candidates for this type of cult-hate brotherhood. They try to make themselves feel better about their dismal and unpromising futures by looking down on others they view as less-fortunate or “naturally inferior” to them. Color is, of course, the easiest thing to discriminate against because even an uneducated person can see a different skin tone, so it is what they use. I feel sorry for their children; I hope they find a better life and do not grow up wishing to hurting others.

Reminds me of redbaiter his conservative club on true blue and his use of the confederate flag
2 2
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 6:59pm
cha

An adult version.

http://youtu.be/E9XQ2MdNgKY
1 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 7:03pm
Azeraph

Pauleastbay (4,346) Says:
October 7th, 2013 at 6:51 pm

Get a load of those costumes, hunting niggers in those must make their prey die of laughter, did you see that skinny old man with the shotgun. It’s amazing he can still hold it. I wonder if black americans have a opposite group to the klan? That would make me laugh to see 2 groups like these go at it like dogs.
1 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 7:23pm
nasska

For some reason this reminds me of someone who comments here…..I just can’t for the moment think who. 🙂

Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/aaxu8vkuq05pkld/Reddy.png
2 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 7:34pm
Azeraph

This, though it is in the states reminds me of how the young who don’t finish high school talk here. It’s sad for these people and the young here, i wonder if that is why we allowed synthetics to take a hold here for so long. A diversion from cooking up their own brands?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnB1mUk1PL0
0 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 7:40pm
Pete George

cha – coincidentally I listened to the full Lorde version half an hour ago. This is every bit as good if not better – I like the backing here better for sure. A great complement to Lorde having covers of her song of this quality already.
0 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 7:49pm
Griff

You miss the fact that most of the population think that riding a hardly makes you a tosser.
The evo motor had the horsepower of a Morrie thou
And 342 extra ccs
It does matter that your bike handles and stops makes it a fuck of a lot safer with the cages you share the road with
cruising is biker speak for that’s all it will do.
I remember the biker drags of the late eighties when they needed a separate class for the v2s
because an out of the box japper would beat the hot Harley even when the only remaining harly bit was the name plate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fastest_production_motorcycles_by_acceleration
The vrods the hot version the top speed would be low to get that much acceleration out of the thing.

I do acknowledge the joy to be had on the open road just believe if that’s your buzz there are a lot better safer more reliable and cheaper bikes to pursue that joy with.

it boils down to form or function.

me I drive a camry that’s lowered with top grade rubber because I love scaring the shit out of tailgaters that try to follow me around corners
1 1
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 7:52pm
Pauleastbay

I was shopping the other day

When I bumped into the

‘Legendary Entertainer’

Rolf Harris.

I was so excited I said to him,

“I remember you doing Two Little Boys in 1970”..

He said ….

“fuck off!… That was Gary Glitter.”
5 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 7:55pm
nasska

A Saudi sheikh has warned that women shouldn’t drive because it damages their ovaries and pelvis.

Where the hell do they put the gear stick in Arabian cars ?
7 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 8:00pm
stigie

Hope Reddy can have a chuckle at this..

Forward this to 10 people….And you will get fuck all, thats right, fuck all.
You wont get good luck or a nice surprise, 5 grand or a holiday in Jamaica… Just fuck all.
Its true, its works.

I sent it on and i got fuck all.

Dont break the chain ! Its the only one of these fucking things that actually works !
Send it on and you will get fuck all, its brilliant !!
5 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 8:02pm
nasska

…..”an out of the box japper would beat the hot Harley”…..

The Kwaka S1 in the early seventies had Triumph & BSA fanatics sobbing into their sump oil. A tiny little three cylinder 250 & they could blow off anything made in the USA or Britain.
2 0
Log in to Reply
Report
October 7, 2013 8:07pm

More comments:

1
2
›

Add a Comment Cancel reply

Login to comment or vote

« Not unjustified

Key subs for Obama »

Donations

You can now donate to Kiwiblog

Exclusive content from DPF on Patreon

Become a Patron!

Never miss a post

Email Address

Join 37.4K other subscribers

Highlights

Health Target 5 – elective treatments
Health Target 4 – Specialist appointments
Health Target 3 – Emergency Dept Waiting Times
Health Target 2 – Immunisations

Links

Justice in Brazil
No Right Turn
"Seymour is only doing openly what M?ori nationalists and their Pakeha allies have been doing, quietly for the past 50 years."
Not PC
This Weeks Email To Prime Minister Luxon.
No Minister
Daily review 22/11/2024
The Standard
Do the KCs believe in democracy
Utopia
More young offenders will get boot camp, bus drivers will get some protection – and there’s relief for southern farmers
Point of Order
Sowell says
Hompaddock
New Zealand government urged to back ICC arrest warrants for Israeli leaders without equivocation
The Daily Blog
The transgender agenda sunk Kamala
Bob McCoskrie's McBlog
SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT
No Punches Pulled (Bob Jones)
What does “reciprocity” mean in New Zealand laws?
Croaking Cassandra
A Day of Reckoning
NZCPR
Media Link: “A View from Afar” on the US elections.
Kiwipolitico
This will not end well
Offsetting Behaviour
Top 14 Predictions for Round 10
Stats Chat
Tory Whanau may have to sell Wellington mayoralty to make ends meet
The Civilian
The Accidental Engagement
Imperator Fish
Legal Beagle: Election '23: The Special Votes
Public Address
Making this movie might have been a mistake
Liam Hehir
Why I am retiring from political blogging
Kiwi FireWalker
Angie Warren-Clark: Meet the Newbies
Dan Moskovitz

editor@kiwiblog.co.nz

PO Box 12270, Thorndon, Wellington 6144

Facebook
Twitter
FourSquare
Instagram
LinkedIn
Google+

Archives
Disclosure Statement
Editorial Policy
Privacy Policy
Complaints Policy
Comments Policy

Design by cre8d