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iMP

Aragorn succumbs to the Dark Side. http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2013/10/30/7best-southpark-meets-lotrings-cartoons-37/
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October 30, 2013 8:02am
Harriet

The Chicongo Thug: 😎

“…..CBS’ Bob Schieffer asked Obama on “Face the Nation”: “It’s my understanding that 90 percent of the guns that they’re getting down in Mexico are coming from the United States. We don’t seem to be doing a very good job of cutting off the gun flow. Do you need any kind of legislative help on that front? Have you, for example, thought about asking Congress to reinstate the ban on assault weapons?”…”

http://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2012/06/27/the_biggest_scandal_in_us_history
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October 30, 2013 8:03am
Manolo

Rape in classy Paki-style: http://www.news.com.au/world/teenage-girl-in-pakistan-digs-herself-out-of-muddy-grave-after-being-raped-and-then-buried-alive/story-fndir2ev-1226748836605
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October 30, 2013 8:28am
Manolo

Australia reaps the benefits of multiculturalism: http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/revesby-heights-shooting-victim-named-as-mahmoud-hamzy-a-cousin-of-bassam-hamzy-australias-biggest-gangster/story-fnii5s3x-1226748605079
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October 30, 2013 8:29am
Left Right and Centre

More on the climber tragedy:

The eight Auckland trampers had taken the East Ridge, which is the hardest way to climb the mountain.

“It’s not a place that you take novices and you certainly wouldn’t want to be exposed out there in bad weather. It’s the least hospitable place on mountain.”

This fella wrote the book. Maybe he knows a thing or two?

Eden, who has climbed Mt Taranaki more than 350 times, said he wouldn’t spend a night on the mountain.

“It’s just not an option in my view.”

350 times um…. !!

“I’m trying to understand why two people could walk down on Sunday morning. Why the other two didn’t walk down? Why didn’t they attempt to walk down?”

hmmm

AGONISING QUESTIONS HAUNT THE EXPERTS

The tragic deaths of two climbers on Mt Taranaki last weekend has left experienced mountaineers with lots of questions.

How did two people who were well-prepared, well-briefed, with good skills die on the mountain, outdoor specialist Rob Needs was asking.

“Why did they choose to stay the night when the weather forecast was for the weather to deteriorate? Eight people went up there, six got back. Why did two choose to stay? That’s what’s perplexing those who know the mountain.”

Every 100 metres down the mountain the conditions ease a little bit, said Needs, who owns the New Plymouth Kiwi Outdoors shop.

“If they had got down to 2200 metres or 2100 metres the rescue teams would have got to them or they would have got to better conditions and made it lower.”

I’m calling it… this is the NZ Alpine Club’s answer to the Titanic sinking. Go for it with your red tick… it’s all good.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9339728/Misery-on-a-Taranaki-mountainside
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October 30, 2013 8:41am
Longknives

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9341193/I-m-answerable-to-my-God-Brown

“Speaking about it this morning, Brown said he thought the protesters were yelling about Auckland issues rather than his infidelities.”

Is there no end to this guy’s blind arrogance??
Len you are not the lovable ‘ Gangsta-rapping homeboy’ any more. You are the dirty little creep who got caught out wanking at your desk while you should have been working…
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October 30, 2013 8:50am
Pete George

I’m not going to overly spiritualise this, but I’m not just answerable to my wife and my family, I’m answerable to my God.

That is the probably most profound challenge I’ve got so I’ve got to work through it. For those who don’t believe, they might not understand that but I do.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9341193/I-m-answerable-to-my-God-Brown

No mention there of being answerable to Auckland voters.
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October 30, 2013 9:25am
Dennis Horne

@Longknives. So it’s true – you do go blind – sometimes. A true wanker.
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October 30, 2013 9:30am
Manolo

Nothing wrong with cronyism, is t? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/29/healthcare-execs-obamas-political-donors/
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October 30, 2013 10:18am
Manolo

France’s bastard socialist government never runs out of things to tax: http://www.france24.com/en/20131029-france-delays-ecotax-road-transport-after-protests
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October 30, 2013 10:22am
chuk

When I heard Red Radio’s report on the swearing in of ACC last evening I thought it included a snippet from “Zadok The Priest”. If this was added by Red Radio staff, good on them. If, however, it was part of the actual proceedings in Auckland then it surely is a sign of how hyper-inflated an ego Lyin Len has. Check out this extract from wikipedia:

Zadok the Priest (HWV 258) is a coronation anthem composed by George Frideric Handel using texts from the King James Bible. It is one of the four Coronation Anthems that Handel composed for the coronation of George II of Great Britain in 1727,[Note 1] and has been sung at every subsequent British coronation, traditionally performed during the sovereign’s anointing.

So, Lyin Len reckons he is answerable to God. Probably the same one who has just anointed him Mayor.
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October 30, 2013 10:25am
liarbors a joke

Keep digging dickheads…the holes getting bigger..

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9339443/Labour-revises-pledge-on-later-pension-age
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October 30, 2013 10:30am
Ed Snack

Time to give up on Len, face it folks he ain’t never going to resign. If you expect his cosy little inquiry by his “mates” are going to find anything damning then Auckland has a bridge that I think you might be interested in buying…
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October 30, 2013 10:45am
Camryn

If you’d like to donate in support of men’s health this Movember, but don’t know anyone doing a mo’, please consider donating here: mobro.co/camryn.brown

(For me, it’s the lack of facial hair that is a bit of a leap… I’ve worn a beard most of the last decade and my face was last ‘exposed’ almost 4 years ago).
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October 30, 2013 10:50am
Fletch

I thought it was men’s health month last month?
At least, there was quite a bit about prostate checks etc on the magazine shows.
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October 30, 2013 11:00am
Camryn

I think October is breasts, November is prostates.
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October 30, 2013 11:01am
Fletch

Muslim Brotherhood using “puppy bombs” – puppies dipped in gasoline and set on fire to use as missiles.

Two puppies from Egypt were rescued just moments before they were to be used by the Muslim Brotherhood in their protests as “puppy bombs” dipped in gasoline and set on fire.

The revelation about the Brotherhood’s cruel tactic used two weeks ago at Tahrir Square during demonstrations against the ouster of President Mohamed Morsi’s was made known by Robyn Urman, a pet rescuer in Tenafly, New Jersey, as reported by CBS 2.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/173343#.Um-5WiSAGkg
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October 30, 2013 11:06am
Manolo

Waste, waste and more waste: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/nhs-pulls-the-plug-on-its-11bn-it-system-2330906.html
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October 30, 2013 11:07am
dime

Dime has joined twitter

@dimenz76

Dime promises only to use his twitter for evil 😀

Dime’s twiter will be a source of political abuse, porn and hooker reviews. Feel free to follow.
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October 30, 2013 11:26am
Ross12

Statements like this from Cunliffe should have National putting say a half page “advert” in the major dailies pointing out the BS as Whale Oil has. The ordinary voter would easily understand the facts and come to the conclusion we don’t want an idiot like Cunliffe anywhere near the Treasury benches.

http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2013/10/lies-david-cunliffe/#axzz2j9jPEF15
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October 30, 2013 12:23pm
Manolo

13 out of the 13 is expected of each of you: http://www.pewresearch.org/quiz/science-knowledge/
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October 30, 2013 12:37pm
cha

Too easy.

You scored better than 93% of the public and the same as 7%.
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October 30, 2013 12:44pm
dishy

Riddle me this, readers: when Len’s in a public meeting, and somebody starts heckling him for rooting strays, how does the sign language person translate the heckle? Using a little finger on one hand and a circle formed by the thumb and index finger on the other?
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October 30, 2013 1:32pm
Yvette

Yesterday a news items said just over 60% of prison inmates have suffered brain injury trauma earlier in their lives.
The number of times I have seen clips of Len Brown striking his own frontal lobes would explain, in a similar way, his marital deviancy, his lack of contrite reaction to it, and that to assuage his own ego he will continue to pressure his wife and daughters to relive their embarrassment many times over.
The Mayor of Auckland appears to have a very obvious self-inflicted mental problem.
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October 30, 2013 1:32pm
cha

# dishy – sex.

http://nzsl.vuw.ac.nz/signs/2640
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October 30, 2013 1:37pm
Fletch

13 out of the 13 is expected of each of you: http://www.pewresearch.org/quiz/science-knowledge/

I got one wrong..
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October 30, 2013 1:47pm
Manolo

Some innovation from Putin’s minions: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/10411473/Russia-spied-on-G20-leaders-with-USB-sticks.html
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October 30, 2013 1:49pm
UglyTruth

Major oil discovery in outback SA

Brisbane company Linc Energy says independent studies have confirmed a major shale oil source in South Australia’s far north, which officials have estimated could be worth $20 trillion.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-24/major-oil-discovery-in-outback-sa/4481982
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October 30, 2013 1:56pm
Colville

I didnt know sunblock stopped xrays! 🙂
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October 30, 2013 2:02pm
kowtow

Major oil discovery in outback SA.

Great news. Maybe young New Zealanders can get work there.God knows there’s far too little exploration and exploitation happening here…….thanks to all the fucken lefty loons who seem to have so much influence here.
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October 30, 2013 2:16pm
mandk

@ Manolo,
Quiz not exactly difficult.
I got 13/13 in about 60 seconds, and I didn’t study any science after the age of 15.
I got sacked by the chemistry teacher and scraped a pass in physics to spite the teacher who told me I had no chance. 🙂
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October 30, 2013 2:18pm
Manolo

You’re right, mandk. The test is piece of piss and should be easily answered by anyone with a basic education.
It shows the lack of scientific knowledge prevalent among today’s population.
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October 30, 2013 2:22pm
mandk

@ Manolo
I noticed that the median score was only 8/13.
I would expect my 11 year old to do better than that.
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October 30, 2013 2:30pm
Pauleastbay

Bloody Twitter

Just seen something regarding dpfdpf answering 12 questions in the paper tomorrow where he admits voting Labour once.

I hope there were drugs and young girls involved otherwise I am very disappointed
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October 30, 2013 2:34pm
Pauleastbay

dime

I saw that I just did today as well, no idea how its works but you showed up straight away.
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October 30, 2013 2:38pm
Fletch

Britney Spears teaches Basic Semiconductor Physics.
(OK, it’s not really her, but they put pictures of her up to make it more pleasant) 🙂

http://britneyspears.ac/physics/basics/basics.htm

http://britneyspears.ac/lasers.htm
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October 30, 2013 3:15pm
wikiriwhis business

Report: U.S. nuclear reactor operators captured — Several officers wounded — Terrorism charges for wanting to acquire C-4 explosives — Investigated for arms trading, trafficking of illegal substances — Planning kidnapping, murder

http://enenews.com/report-u-s-nuclear-reactor-operators-captured-several-officers-wounded-terrorism-charges-for-wanting-to-acquire-c-4-explosives-investigated-for-arms-trading-trafficking-of-illegal-substan
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October 30, 2013 3:17pm
dime

Paul – youll note i only follow political/news peeps and porn stars 😀

Havent found any twitter hookers yet.. ill track some down though!
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October 30, 2013 3:32pm
dime

Stormy Daniels will do skype sex for a small fee. What a treat for her, she can watch Dime beat off haha
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October 30, 2013 3:43pm
iMP

Make mine Marvel, Nuff Said. The franchise continues with its 22nd outing (have I missed any?). The X-Men return…

http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2013/10/30/x-men-return-marvel-movie-trailer/
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October 30, 2013 3:51pm
iMP

Actually 24, not counting the 1994 low-budget FF.
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October 30, 2013 3:56pm
Manolo

The Kenyan many lies come back to haunt him:
http://www.americanthinker.com/video/2013/10/obama_a_complete_failure_-_according_to_obama.html
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October 30, 2013 4:36pm
TheContrarian

Will you also refer to Ted Cruz as “The Cuban”, Manolo?
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October 30, 2013 4:44pm
edhunter

Classic, Rhi Rhi has had her world famous Maori tattoo on her hand covered up:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/9343220/Rihanna-covers-up-Maori-tattoo
I’m imagining the faux outrage now, & in a similar vain was somewhat surprised at the the lack of outrage at the disrespect that Beyonce showed the Haka.
When you’re happy to prostitute your culture to all & sundry don’t be surprised when you lose control of it & have it thrown back in your face.
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October 30, 2013 5:34pm
Ed Snack

Classic, Limbaugh asks “What didn’t the President know, and when didn’t he know it?”. Obama seems to be out of so many loops that just about the only one that he definitely is in is the Fruit one.
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October 30, 2013 6:50pm
Fletch

Yup,

Obama – “I only found out about [insert scandal] in the papers when everyone else did”
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October 30, 2013 6:56pm
Fletch

Ted Cruz schools Trayvon Martin’s mother about how the Stand Your Ground laws did not apply to her son’s case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQAr47xF21k
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October 30, 2013 6:57pm
Ed Snack

And another, if you have lousy, ineffective health enrolment website, you didn’t build that !
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October 30, 2013 7:06pm
Fletch

I got a neg for my 6:56 on Obama? But that’s what he said. He didn’t know anything about anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAf0JQWM1xY

The bystander president.
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October 30, 2013 7:09pm
Ed Snack

And just to comment, Cruz is of course 100% correct! Zimmerman did not claim and was not judged upon any part of the Florida “Stand Your Ground” laws, the case was entirely about self defence and decided on that basis. Any rabbiting on about SYG in the context of that case is pure political sophistry, or lying for effect.
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October 30, 2013 7:09pm
nasska

Why do Muslim women love Halloween?

Because it’s the only night of the year when they’re not the only ones wearing outfits that scare the shit out of small children.
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October 30, 2013 8:00pm
stigie

That disgusting interview with Palino on Campbell live tonight with that bitch butting in.

He was too polite, i would have told her to fuck off !!~

This is all John Keys fault you know !
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October 30, 2013 8:04pm
Pete George

The Roy Morgan poll (over a longer period than One News and Fairfax) means National has a wide poll range – 42, 45 and 50%.

Labour is closer at 35.5, 34 and 33.6%.

Comparing the three polls.
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October 30, 2013 8:10pm
PhilP

@ stigie

That greenie left weasel Campbell will salivate at any chance to have a go at the right to take the heat off Brown….C**t!
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October 30, 2013 8:12pm
Scott

Yes, I noticed the ferocious, confrontational approach of the reporter to John Palino. Who by the way has not had an affair and is guilty of no criminal activity or immoral behaviour.
In contrast Len Brown got a light and sensitive and very understanding interview with John Campbell.
John Campbell has not followed up Len Brown’s affair at all. Yet he is painting John Palino as the villain!
Patently left wing bias from the media. Left wing Brown good. Evil right wing conspirators bad!
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October 30, 2013 8:22pm
ChrisM

Remember all those claims that the fires in Australia were caused by climate change. Here is what the firefighters said:

The Volunteer Firefighters Association (VFFA), the body representing the Voice of Volunteer Rural Firefighters in New South Wales, refutes the claim by green alarmists that climate change is the cause of the recent bushfires in New South Wales.
“It’s ridiculous to blame climate change when we know there has been far worse bushfires stretching back to the earliest days of European settlement in Australia including the Black Saturday Victoria 2009, NSW Bushfires 1994, Ash Wednesday Victoria 1983, Blue Mountains NSW 1968, Black Tuesday Hobart 1967 and Black Friday Victoria 1939,” said Peter Cannon, President of the VFFA.

The VFFA is angered by comments from the green lobby groups that tackling climate change was more important than prescribed burning of forest fuels to reduce bushfire risk. The real blame rests with the greens and their ideology as they continue to oppose and undermine our efforts to conduct hazard reduction in the cooler months and to prevent private landowners from clearing their lands to reduce bushfire risk.

Hazard reduction is the only proven management tool rural firefighters have to reduce the intensity and spread of bushfires and this has been recognised in numerous bushfire enquires since the Stretton enquiry into the 1939 Victorian bushfires.

“The amount of ‘green tape’ we have to go through to get a burn approved is beyond frustrating,” says Peter Cannon.

The VFFA is calling on the NSW State Government to reduce the amount of green tape involved in planning and conducting hazard reductions, so that our Volunteer Firefighters can get on with the job of conducting fire prevention works in the cooler months to prevent the inevitable summer bushfire disasters that are now becoming a more regular feature.

The NSW State Government must also provide sufficient funding for bushfire hazard reduction works on a planned and sustained basis, including the creation of asset protection zones and upgrades of all fire trails in high bushfire risk areas.

“Remember that it’s far more cost effective, say around 66 to 100 times more cost efficient, to prevent wild fires through hazard reduction than it is to have reactionary fire response, which is what we have at the moment. With the great number of lost homes and decreasing property values through these wild fires, what then will the total fiscal amount be… when it could have all been prevented by effective Hazard reduction.”

Mr Cannon says, “The area treated by prescribed burning on bushfire prone lands needs to be increased from the current level of less than 1% per annum to a minimum of 5% per annum, as recommended by the Victorian Royal Commission and many leading bushfire experts.”

Puts a different complexion on the issue, doesn’t it. this is also what the fire agencies and foresters in the USA have been saying for years. No doubt the apologists like griff will rush in and say the firefighters don’t know what they are talking about, but I know who I’d listen too
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October 30, 2013 8:23pm
Fletch

ChrisM, True, and Australia has had massive bushfires like that in the past.
Black Thursday in 1851 is one example.

” The year 1850 had been one of exceptional heat and drought.
Pastures had withered; creeks had become fissured clay-pans; water-holes had disappeared; sheep and cattle had perished in great numbers, and the sun-burnt plains were strewn with their bleached skeletons; the very leaves upon the trees crackled in the heat, and appeared to be as inflammable as tinder.

As the summer advanced, the temperature became torrid, and on the morning of the 6th of February, 1851, the air which blew down from the north resembled the breath of a furnace. A fierce wind arose, gathering strength and velocity from hour to hour, until about noon it blew with the violence of a tornado.

By some inexplicable means it wrapped the whole country in a sheet of flame —fierce, awful, and irresistible. Men, women and children, sheep and cattle, birds and snakes, fled before the fire in a common panic. The air was darkened by volumes of smoke, relieved by showers of sparks; the forests were ablaze, and, on the ranges, the conflagration transformed their wooded slopes into appalling masses of incandescent columns and arches.

Farm houses, fences, crops, orchards, gardens, haystacks, bridges, wool-sheds, were swept away by the impetuous on-rush of the flames, which left behind them nothing but a charred heap of ruins, and a scene of pitiable desolation. The human fugitives fled to water, wherever it could be found, and stood in it, breathing with difficulty the suffocating atmosphere, and listening with awe to the roar of the elements and the cries of the affrighted animals.

Many lives were lost, and the value of the property and live stock destroyed on “Black Thursday ” can only be vaguely conjectured. Late in the evening a strong sea-breeze began to blow, driving back the heavy pall of smoke that had deepened the darkness of the night, and the next day dawned upon blackened homesteads, smouldering forests, charred carcasses of sheep, oxen, horses, poultry and wild animals, and the face of the country presented such an aspect of ruin and devastation as could never be effaced from the recollection of those who had witnessed and survived the calamity. “

http://home.iprimus.com.au/foo7/fire1851.html

Ian Wishart, in his book Air Con points out that it is the fault of the greenies in modern times not allowing trees to be cut down and creating fuel for such fires.

Why so deadly then? Because ironically, environmentalists in local and state governments had enacted laws encouraging people to blend their homes into the Australian Bush, and forbidding clearance of dry leaf and timber debris from the forest floor.

This meant that when a fire eventually hit that area, as statistically it was bound to do, there was enough fuel on the ground to quickly turn the blaze into a raging firestorm.

In one area, a homeowner who defied the Green restrictions and cleared debris and trees several hundred meters back from his house, was fined more than $60,000 dollars for breaching environmental bylaws. But in a tragic lesson to Australian bureaucrats and environmentalists, his house was the only one left standing in his street untouched by fire.”

The book contains other instances of this.
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October 30, 2013 8:58pm
dime

Deaker retiring from all tv & radio.. WOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Awful old man. Long overdue.
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October 30, 2013 9:07pm
hj

Keith Locke Receives Harmony Award at IAW Launch

Keith Locke, former member of Parliament and Leader of the Green Party, was yesterday presented with a Harmony Award by the Federation of Islamic Associations of New Zealand (FIANZ) at the official launch of Islamic Awareness Week at Te Wharewaka Function Centre in Wellington

Her Worship Celia Wade-Brown, Mayor of Wellington, donned a hijab for the occasion and called for people to come forward to Council with suggestions on how to make Wellington more welcoming. She identified the “Women only” swimming facility made available at the Kilbirnie Aquatic Centre as an example of the sorts of initiatives possible.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1308/S00371/keith-locke-receives-harmony-award-at-iaw-launch.htm
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October 30, 2013 9:11pm
doggone7

SCOTT: “Yes, I noticed the ferocious, confrontational approach…”

Just another case of a media person doing things the way they want it done. John Campbell taking the same approach with Brown and he’s lambasted. The woman asking Palino questions goes gently, gently and lets him make a PR address she gets tagged about a “sensitive and very understanding interview.”

They can’t win. Some who think Brown should have had the full force of a rigorous, forceful aggressive interview think Palino should not even be approached.

I’m actually fascinated by the fact that Mr Palino could spend 90 minutes at night in the middle of a (most likely) busy election campaign, in a car park in a car with a woman he probably hardly knew. He said something about them receiving threatening texts. What were the texts about? It is highly improbable, no, absolutely beyond belief that he didn’t know more than he has admitted. Sit in the car with a stranger at night for 90 minutes what are you going to talk about?

The one with the infidelity problem is Len Brown. The problems all get back to him. I wouldn’t paint John Palino as a villain, simply someone who expects me to believe something that is incredible.
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October 30, 2013 9:35pm
publicwatchdog

JOHN BANKS UPDATE:

First call for a High Court Judicial Review of District Court decision ordering John Banks to stand trial for filing a false electoral return.

http://www.dodgyjohnhasgone.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Judgement-Judge-Gittos-16-Oct-2013.pdf

As the Solicitor-General has taken over the private prosecution, Banks’ lawyer(s) will be facing Crown Law.

WHEN: Thursday 31 October 2013
WHERE: Auckland High Court, Waterloo Quadrant
TIME: Protest banners outside High Court from 9am
Court starts 10am.

http://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/article.aspx?id=176090&fm=newsmain%2Cnup

Banks to face Crown Law Office
Solicitor-General Michael Heron’s decision to take over the case against John Banks is being praised by the man who privately prosecuted the MP.

26 October 2013
The man who privately prosecuted ACT leader John Banks is praising Solicitor-General Michael Heron for taking over the case.

Retired accountant Graham McCready succeeded in the District Court and Banks has been ordered to stand trial charged with filing a false electoral return.

Mr Heron confirmed on Friday he was taking over the case, which means Banks will face the Crown Law Office when he goes to trial – unless he succeeds with a High Court judicial review of the District Court ruling which will be heard on Thursday next week.

As well as prosecuting the case, the Crown Law Office will defend the judicial review.

“I’m very pleased, it’s a win not only for myself but for the New Zealand public that a private prosecution can have a defendant committed for trial and then the solicitor-general takes over and puts the full weight of the Crown behind it,” Mr McCready said on Radio New Zealand.

Mr McCready says the judicial review could mean Banks faces further scrutiny.

“He has the right to remain silent but if he files an affidavit, as he has probably done, then it is open to the Crown Law Office to call him in and cross-examine him on it,” he said.

When Banks told media he was seeking a judicial review of the ruling by District Court Judge Phil Gittos, he said it contained a myriad of factual inaccuracies and flawed legal decisions.

Banks is accused of knowingly signing a false election return for the donations he received for his 2010 Auckland mayoral bid.

Donations from SkyCity and internet mogul Kim Dotcom were recorded as anonymous.

The prosecution alleges Banks knew where they came from.

NZN
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Kind regards,

Penny Bright
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October 30, 2013 10:22pm
lofty

@ Dime…is this true re Deaker…say it is so…..c’mon c’mon.
The only time I hear him (cause I will not tune in to his show, whenever that is) is the 5:55pm intro on Larry Williams show, and that drives me to road rage as I wend my way up the Kaimais, the man is a menace to my state of mind and other road users on that shithole piece of NZ highway.
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October 30, 2013 10:26pm
lofty

Penny, paid your rates yet? If not who cares a fat rats arse about your biased opinion on anything remotely bordering on philosophical ?
You really are a piece of work.
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October 30, 2013 10:29pm
Manolo

Everlasting love and affection between incompetents: http://www.nationaljournal.com/health-care/why-obama-won-t-fire-sebelius-20131029
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