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Harriet

Here’s Thomas Sowell – smashing David Cunliff:

“……..Minimum wage laws in general are usually set with no real knowledge of the economic realities and alternatives for either employers or employees. Third parties are simply enabled to indulge themselves by imagining what is “fair” — and pay no price for being wrong about the actual economic consequences.

That is why countries with minimum wage laws usually have much higher rates of unemployment than those few places where there have been no minimum wage laws, such as Switzerland or Singapore — or the United States, before the first federal minimum wage law was passed in 1931.

Government interventions in labor markets have already created needless complications, and not just by minimum wage laws. The welfare state has already taken out of the labor market millions of people who could perform work that would be well within the capacity of inexperienced young people or people with limited education.

With welfare, such people can stay home, watch television, do drugs or whatever — or else they can hang out in the streets, often confirming the old adage that the devil finds work for idle hands……”
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October 2, 2013 8:00am
Chuck Bird

Davina Murray gets community work for smuggling phone to rapist

What do others think of this poor excuse for a lawyer not being jailed?

Should she not been charged with perjury?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11132792

Cop’s jail smuggling service
By Anna Leask @AnnaLeask
5:30 AM Wednesday Oct 2, 2013

This cop will be sentenced in December.

Does anyone think judges are softer on crooked lawyers than crooked cops or prison officers?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11133152
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October 2, 2013 8:02am
Lance

Countdown to day 7846 when Kea et al start shrieking hysterically about all non atheists in 3.2.1…
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October 2, 2013 8:04am
kowtow

Strange times

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2440086/Belgian-elects-die-euthanasia-botched-sex-change-operation-left-monster.html
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October 2, 2013 8:04am
Ian McK

Heard “Goose” Galloway on radio explaining Labour’s policy on ACC; still none the wiser. If he is an example of the dynamic new bunch of socialists, JK has nothing to worry about . . . they are still top heavy with gaggle members and losers.
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October 2, 2013 8:12am
Longknives

Obama is an absolute buffoon.
Stuff-up after stuff-up, controversy after controversy. Yet the left’s ‘Messiah’ is seemingly exempt from any sort of criticism simply because of the colour of his skin.
To criticise ‘The Messiah’ somehow makes you a racist.
History will remember him as one of the worst Presidents ever. It is a shame nobody has the cojones to call it now…
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October 2, 2013 8:27am
Azeraph

The law is too weak on those commit fraud with investors money here in this country
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October 2, 2013 8:30am
Longknives

And don’t get me started on that horrid woman he calls his wife…
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October 2, 2013 8:30am
Tom Jackson

A strapping young heathen named Kea
at religion would constantly jeer
Saying: “believers in gods
are miserable sods
who do so only from fear.”
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October 2, 2013 8:30am
jcuk

What a clueless bunch these Forest and Bird et al Clowns are as protectors of wild life they don’t know that you simply cannot go on a farm during August through to October because it is lambing and calving time. If the legal process is held up becuase of this then us townies will have to lump it.
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October 2, 2013 8:31am
nickb

I would have thought the fact that the USA will run out of money and risks defaulting on its sovereign debt in 2 weeks is bigger news than a debate over Obamacare.

And it should show anyone blaming it on “radical tea party conservatives” that the real problem is the behemoth government Obama has created. He really has destroyed the greatest western economy on earth. The USA’s national debt is now around $NZD50,000 for every man,woman and child.
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October 2, 2013 8:32am
Kea

Tom, you got it ! 😉
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October 2, 2013 8:32am
Harriet

kowtow#

“…Last week it emerged that a staggering one in 30 deaths in the Netherlands are now from euthanasia, after Dutch government allowed mobile death squads to kill sick and elderly people in their homes.

The country became the first in the world since Nazi Germany to legalise euthanasia when in 2002 it approved doctor-administered lethal drugs for terminally ill people facing unbearable suffering…….but now……..unbearable suffering for euthanasia can be both physical and psychological….”

Yes – very strange times indeed……but that was predicted……down to a T.
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October 2, 2013 8:34am
UglyTruth

…that the real problem is the behemoth government Obama has created…

No, the real problem is the corrupt civil system which ignores debt jubilees and the prohibition of usury in favour of a gradual death from bleeding wealth out of the country via the central banks.
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October 2, 2013 8:36am
jcuk

I appreciate that National are idelogically opposed to state housing but the argument of the Blenheim houses are too small is simply quite silly. It would make a lot of sense if when large families need accomodation they are provided with containers properly insulated, windowed, and height to building standards to act as bedsitting rooms and when the need is ended as the children leave home they can be moved on to where they are needed. The sale of several Blenhiem houses et al would hardly pay for the ground of one hose in Auckland. Most State houses I have seen have plenty of room for a bedroom judging from the cars and caravans they often site. Superficially it is a politically good idea but simply is idiotic to subsidise wouldbe capitalists instead of providing state houses to those that need them.
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October 2, 2013 8:39am
Kea

Longknives, yes but Obama is not only damaging America. He is spreading misery globally. It is widely been reported that he had the most expensive campaign in human history. This was paid for by the elite rich at the very top. In spite of having no money, he bailed out the banks and institutions of the super rich and found trillions and trillions of dollars to spend on wars attacking Israels enemies. Funny that. I wonder if there is a link ?

[Tiny white elite dominates US political donor landscape – study

http://rt.com/usa/campaign-donors-rich-usa-590/%5D
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October 2, 2013 8:39am
Harriet

“….And don’t get me started on that horrid woman he calls his wife…”

Most comments on US blog sites refer to her as Moochelle.
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October 2, 2013 8:40am
Carlos

“…that the real problem is the behemoth government Obama has created…

No, the real problem is the corrupt civil system which ignores debt jubilees and the prohibition of usury in favour of a gradual death from bleeding wealth out of the country via the central banks.”

Actually, the real problem is a an idea that sprung up out of the poison well of closet Marxists that it’s okay to spend more than you earn. It’s never okay to spend more than you earn. Not for the individual, family, company or country.
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October 2, 2013 8:42am
Kea

Lance (2,112) Says:
October 2nd, 2013 at 8:04 am
Countdown to day 7846 when Kea et al start shrieking hysterically about all non atheists in 3.2.1…

We will be watching to see your reaction to the second [YOU are the FIRST] person who mentions religion. No doubt you will be straight onto them, just to show you are not really a two face hypocritical liar.
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October 2, 2013 8:45am
jcuk

If America is suffering it is from the senseless attacks on countries because of bad intelligence and wasting its money on military supplies instead of sorting out its mess at home. Small government was possible when the world population was also small but if homo sapien is going to survive as a species then it is going to have to learn how to be controlled and organised which requires ‘government’. There is the other point that these days there simply isn’t enough work for the people being propagated by idle today and tomorrow there will be even less. So have fun but don’t begat.
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October 2, 2013 8:47am
Longknives

Harriet- Have you ever seen the footage of her sneering at and talking through the flag folding during the 911 remembrance ceremony?
There can be little doubt which side she was cheering for when those 3000 innocent people lost their lives…
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October 2, 2013 8:48am
Griff

obama has the inheritance of bush and his war fetish
Iraq and Afghanistan
trillions of dollars wasted on unwinnable wars that will leave both countrys worse of
millions of civilian lifes destroyed in two countrys invaded for oil by the bush administration
as well as the Gfc again a bush legacy that crippled the world
Bush will not be beaten as the worst president ever.
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October 2, 2013 8:49am
jcuk

“Harriet (2,575) Says:

October 2nd, 2013 at 8:40 am
“….And don’t get me started on that horrid woman he calls his wife…”

Most comments on US blog sites refer to her as Moochelle.”

Which just shows the low level of bloggers intelligence
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October 2, 2013 8:50am
Kea

Griff, what has Bush got to do with Obama making war in: Mali, Yemen, Somalia, Libya, Egypt, Syria and many many other countries ?

At what point will you hold Obama responsible for his own actions ? If ever. Or will it always be the YT’s fault ?
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October 2, 2013 8:54am
jcuk

A country is not like a family in that if it spends more than it income there is inflation to make it easier for it to repay the debt
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October 2, 2013 8:55am
Tom Jackson

Wonder where the leader of the conservative vanguard is today…

Probably making breakfast for the young Polynesian men he happened to “find” in his bed this morning.
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October 2, 2013 8:56am
Harriet

‘….There can be little doubt which side she was cheering for when those 3000 innocent people lost their lives…”

Speaking of lifes……they both went to the Parenting International AGM[the largest private abortion provider]…..ate, drank, gave a speech…….then when they left both smiling, Barry said “God Bless, and keep up the good work.”

….he outragously offended every conservative and Christian in the US….they’re so out of touch with the mainstream american……and the black abortion rate is sky high, and black women like Moochelle believe that they are ‘liberated’….from what?……..weak irresponsable black ‘men’…..more liked trained to think that they are ‘liberated’!
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October 2, 2013 8:58am
Griff

their is no war as a result of invasion in any of the countrys you mention
just your stupid screen licking kea
one word describes your post
fuckwit
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October 2, 2013 8:58am
Kea

Obama joins a long list of distinguished black leaders:

1. Mugabe

2. Idi Amin Dada [“His Excellency President for Life Field Marshal Al Hadji Dr. Idi Amin, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular”]

3. General Butt Naked [for real, look it up]

4. Omar Hassan Ahmad Al-Bashir

5. Mobutu Sese Seko

6. Charles Taylor

7. Jean-Bedel Bokassa

These boys make Hitler look like a bleeding heart humanist, but none have spread death and destruction as far and wide as Obama. They at least kept it local.
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October 2, 2013 9:01am
Colville

Carlos @ 8.42

Holy shit!

Actually, the real problem is a an idea that sprung up out of the poison well of closet Marxists that it’s okay to spend more than you earn. It’s never okay to spend more than you earn. Not for the individual, family, company or country.

Every child in every school in the country should be forced to write this out 10 times a day every day!
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October 2, 2013 9:02am
Carlos

@ Colville

Cheers! Except without the typos “the real problem is a an idea that”. Whoops! 🙁
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October 2, 2013 9:04am
Griff

The present situation in the usa is the same as the greens and labour rehashing election over asset sales
obama won with his health care policy as his central plank
the tea party is subverting the democratic process by stoping obama from implementing a policy he was elected on
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October 2, 2013 9:05am
Kea

their is no war as a result of invasion in any of the countrys you mention
just your stupid screen licking kea
one word describes your post
fuckwit

Griff, so you would not consider troops on the ground and having your family blown to bits by a Drone war ? Ok, what would you call it ?

US deploying troops to 35 African countries
Published time: December 24, 2012 16:29

The United States Army will be deploying troops to nearly three-dozen African nations in the coming year.

Soldiers based out of Fort Riley, Kansas’ 2nd Brigade, 1st Infantry Division will begin training in March 2013 in order to prepare for a project that will send troops to as many as 35 African nations, the Associated Press reports.
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October 2, 2013 9:05am
Harriet

“…..Holy shit!
Actually, the real problem is a an idea that sprung up out of the poison well of closet Marxists that it’s okay to spend more than you earn. It’s never okay to spend more than you earn. Not for the individual, family, company or country.
Every child in every school in the country should be forced to write this out 10 times a day every day!…..”

That won’t ever happen Carlos, as 92% of kiwi kids are educated in the Public Marxist Schools!…..well it could happen….if you give your party vote to the conservative party as they’ll move National along a bit quicker rolling out charter schools.
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October 2, 2013 9:06am
iMP

SMAUG and BILBO get it on. Hobbit 2 here it is, with some extra vid on Cumberpatch. Awesomenesssss for Christmasssss.

http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2013/10/02/hobbit-2-trailer-here-tis-precious/
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October 2, 2013 9:06am
Tom Jackson

Ms Lucia cannot help but tell
us that we’re all bound for Hell
But I say don’t be sad
For it’s not quite that bad
It’s fine if you don’t mind the smell.
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October 2, 2013 9:07am
Harriet

“…..obama won with his health care policy as his central plank……the tea party is subverting the democratic process by stoping obama from implementing a policy he was elected on…..”

I think you’ll find that they are opposing it in principal, along with a few other things, like cost.

The current stand-off is over the fact that it invades the privacy of American business owners Griff.
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October 2, 2013 9:10am
kowtow

Tom Jackson was the second person to mention religion today,and it was about kea’s obsessive postings about same.

Kea’s post mentions war in Mali,Yemen,Somalia,Libya,Egypt and Syria.Despite his/her constant defence of the religion of peace,what is the common factor in the countries he/she listed.

Hypocrisy? Yes but it’s all kea’s.
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October 2, 2013 9:10am
Longknives

You can keep your ‘Team New Zealand’ and their seemingly endless, incessant crying for more taxpayer cash and handouts.
(Coincidentally the same week Dean Barker splashes out on a new six million dollar home)

Now John Daly- there is a sporting icon!
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/golf/9233980/Wild-Thing-tees-off-from-fans-mouth
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October 2, 2013 9:11am
Carlos

@ Harriet

I gave my party vote to the Conservatives last time and will probably do so again. 🙂
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October 2, 2013 9:11am
Kea

On wiretaps and drone strikes, it’s time for liberals to accept that Obama is worse than Bush

Obama authorised six times as many drone strikes in his first term in office as Bush did over two terms.

Obama has sanctioned the extrajudicial killing – again, by drone strike – of four US citizens since 2009. Where is the liberal outcry?

President Obama took the United States into war with Libya in 2011 even though Colonel Gaddafi posed zero threat to the security of the US. Despite his imperial pretensions, Bush allowed Congress to vote on the invasions of both Iraq and Afghanistan; on Libya, Obama didn’t bother to ask.

The US president is cool, calm and mediasavvy. But presidents must be judged by their policies, not their personalities.

http://www.newstatesman.com/2013/06/wiretaps-and-drone-strikes-its-time-liberals-accept-obama-worse-bush
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October 2, 2013 9:11am
jcuk

I understand that the US Government is actually smaller as a result of Obama and stories to the opposite is just misguided republican mischief.
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October 2, 2013 9:11am
Tom Jackson

I gave my party vote to the Conservatives last time and will probably do so again.

With Harry and Red that makes three supporters!

A veritable tsunami of support.
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October 2, 2013 9:12am
Kea

what is the common factor in the countries he/she listed.

The Jews hate them ?
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October 2, 2013 9:12am
Griff

harry
fact
America spends more of its gdp on health care than any other county
it does not lead the world in the outcomes
it is a fucked system
no amount of stupidity will change this fact
the American people die younger than most similar countrys
the deference
the private insurance system in the states costs more money for less result than the public funded systems in nz England Australiar Canada
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October 2, 2013 9:18am
Harriet

“…With Harry and Red that makes three supporters!…..A veritable tsunami of support….”

We don’t want our kids to live in New Zodom…..living on their knees…..under homofacism, feminism, communism, legal drugs, legal suicide, and religious persecution! 😎
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October 2, 2013 9:20am
Tom Jackson

We don’t want our kids to live in New Zodom…..living on their knees…..under homofacism, feminism, communism, legal drugs, legal suicide, and religious persecution!

I’ve heard that there is a great leader among us, who will lead the righteous in the final armageddon against the progs.

Well, at least he will when he gets out of his padded cell.
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October 2, 2013 9:22am
calendar girl

“the tea party is subverting the democratic process by stoping obama from implementing a policy he was elected on”

But there were also separate votes for the Congress which left Democrats with a Senate majority and Republicans with a House majority. Despite your personal view of what constitutes “the democratic process”, the electorate (and the US Constitution) did not elect President Obama to a dictatorship.
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October 2, 2013 9:30am
Tom Jackson

But there were also separate votes for the Congress which left Democrats with a Senate majority and Republicans with a House majority. Despite your personal view of what constitutes “the democratic process”, the electorate (and the US Constitution) did not elect President Obama to a dictatorship.

This is what happens when you try to run a 21st century post-industrial society on rules developed to run an 18th century agrarian society.
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October 2, 2013 9:31am
kowtow

Jews were a very significant minority in many “Muslim” countries until 1948.They were a very big presence in Baghdad for example.But the hatred gnerated by Arab governments towards them after the creation ofn the state of Israel saw a virtual ethnic cleansing of said minorities.

We are constantly told that the Koran teaches tolerance and while there are references to tolerance there are also numerous references to hate Jews ,this as a result of Jewish tribes in Arabia refusing to convert to Islam.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banu_Qurayza
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October 2, 2013 9:36am
Tom Jackson

Someone said Redbaiter got banned from WhaleOil. Can anyone tell me how this happened? Looking at the blog, it would seem almost impossible to be banned unless you insisted on mentioning Cam’s extracurricular activities.
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October 2, 2013 9:46am
Harriet

“…..I’ve heard that there is a great leader among us, who will lead the righteous in the final armageddon against the progs.
Well, at least he will when he gets out of his padded cell…..”

We are going turn New Zodom and Aotearainbow – same stinking turds, same toilet cubicle – into a place where children at least have the chance to live unemcumbered childhoods away from the disease ridden idealogy that you want to inflict upon them.

The way that you now want to impose mind bending nonsense on the young and poor is by legalising the drugs of their mothers. They will get the DPP or WFF from you, take their drugs, and while they are in a stupor – try best to feed their kids and parent them.

Fucken funny that Tom……..liberating white liberal women from the kitchen……..only to have them now involve themselves in the nutritional legislation of every ‘poor’ women’s kitchen, and mostly brown ones at that!

And drugs don’t even have any nutritional value.

You can’t call that ‘helping the poor and maginalised’!

Get over it….you lost….your going. 😎
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October 2, 2013 9:46am
Tom Jackson

We are going turn New Zodom and Aotearainbow – same stinking turds, same toilet cubicle

Your obssession with faeces and buttsecks is showing.
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October 2, 2013 9:47am
Ian McK

See the ex-Labour MP convicted of fraud still making himself available. Great when a convicted criminal can stand for public office, receive high salary, and be in position to make decisions awarding contracts worth millions of ratepayers’ dollars. Seems Clark, Goff, King and hangers-on made a good job of covering up this cretin’s felonious past. Time suppression laws were overhauled.
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October 2, 2013 9:48am
Harriet

“…..This is what happens when you try to run a 21st century post-industrial society on rules developed to run an 18th century agrarian society…..”

Fucken hell Tom…..don’t tell me that you actually ever read that somewhere.
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October 2, 2013 9:48am
Dennis Horne

There was an old wag called Jackson
Attacked bloggers their facts on
But try as he might
He never could quite
Drown the sound of their crap with his klaxon.
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October 2, 2013 9:53am
Kea

Jews were a very significant minority in many ~~“Muslim”~~ Catholic countries until 1948 0’s.
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October 2, 2013 9:54am
Harriet

“…..Someone said Redbaiter got banned from WhaleOil. Can anyone tell me how this happened? Looking at the blog, it would seem almost impossible to be banned unless you insisted on mentioning Cam’s extracurricular activities……”

Someone posted the link a week or so ago to where Whale actually banned him.

Red had the better of him….to the point that Whale looked an idiot…….but then Red called him a c*** or something……..most comments below it supported Red’s view. Whale said he banned him for the c***……….but most of the comments believed Whale used it as an excuse.
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October 2, 2013 9:54am
dime

Dime drank a shit ton of red wine last night.

Dime has felt better…
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October 2, 2013 9:54am
kowtow

This is what happens when you try to bribe electorates……

the political class has bankrupted the west and fickle ,easily bribed electorates allow it.
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October 2, 2013 9:55am
RRM

I am just the vanguard of a political movement that is going to wipe Progressives off the face of the earth. They’ll disappear like the Dodo birds did.

I am spearheading a force that will grow from hundreds to thousands to millions and you will be gone.

~ Attributed to A. Hitler, 1923
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October 2, 2013 9:57am
wikiriwhis business

Footage you were never
supposed to see

Artist Brian Springer spent a year scouring the airwaves with a satellite dish grabbing back channel news feeds not intended for public consumption. The result of his research is SPIN, one of the most insightful films ever made about the mechanics of how television is used as a tool of social control to distort and limit the American public’s perception of reality.

Take the time to watch it from beginning to end and you’ll never look at TV reporting the same again. Tell your friends about it. This extraordinary film released in the early 1990s is almost completely unknown. Hopefully, the Internet will change that.
– See more at: http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/spin-1/spin-by-brian-springer.html#sthash.feRpBjkl.dpuf
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October 2, 2013 9:58am
Kea

“Dime drank a shit ton of red wine last night.

Dime has felt better…”

dime, come on we want details …

Kea was drinking once a week on Fridays, but Kea has even stopped that, is back into running, and Kea is bursting out of his skin with good health 🙂
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October 2, 2013 10:00am
Kea

kowtow, do you agree with the Pope or not ?

Full Question

Pope Benedict XVI has stated that Muslims worship the same God as Christians do. Is this just his private opinion?
Answer

No. The Second Vatican Council taught that Muslims worship the one true God:

The Church regards with esteem also the Muslims. They adore the one God, living and subsisting in himself; merciful and all-powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth, who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even his inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith of Islam takes pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God. (Nostra Aetate 3)

http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/is-it-the-popes-private-opinion-that-muslims-worship-the-same-god
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October 2, 2013 10:04am
Kea

We are few, but brave and honourable and united.

~ Attributed to A. Hitler, 1923
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October 2, 2013 10:06am
jaba

now I know that TV3 is a pinko channel but the Ginga gave David Cunliffe a free reign on TV this morning .. then they had Plughead Cosgrove and Ian Please-Gallopaway ranting about the Govt reducing ACC levies in election year
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October 2, 2013 10:16am
lilman

Kea ,get a life.
You are a exercise in masturbation ,you know what to do but after a while how do you make it interesting?
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October 2, 2013 10:17am
kowtow

Nuanced ,and therefore beyond the abilities of a few posters here,but worthwhile non the less.

ow Ratzinger sees the Mohs.

Especially coming from an Egyptian Jesuit.

http://chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/articolo/53826?eng=y
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October 2, 2013 10:20am
dime

Kea – was a pretty sedate evening.

had a chick friend over for dinner. made ravioli from scratch. turns out my skills with a pasta machine are garbage. food tasted great.. kinda looked like giant dumplings..

Dime is right into smoothies at the moment. Breakfast this morning was pineapple, apple, almond milk, greek yoghurt, honey, oats and ice. it was fucking delicious.

Dime is also doing Yoga at the moment. You havent lived until youve seen Dime do the downward facing dog.. while nude.
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October 2, 2013 10:24am
Kea

Interestingly the two things that upset Christians the most are:

1. Bible quotes.

2. Announcements of the Pope.

Even when offered with no view of my own expressed, the holly word attracts the most down ticks. This provides evidence that the theists are not mistaken, but are living a lie. They know it is all bullshit but try and will it into being.
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October 2, 2013 10:25am
Kea

dime, my preferred breakfast is strong black coffee and a cigar. Though I have knocked the cigar on the head. I hope she was appreciative of your efforts. 😉
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October 2, 2013 10:28am
Griff

I understand whale or one of his associates looked into reds ezceceve totals of karma and discovered that someone had created proxy accounts that someone was using only to add to reds karma totals
when this was published red spat the dummy at whale and was baned as a result
reddy claims the moral high ground but lies like a fucked fool if confronted with his lack of honesty or his continues abuse to all who don’t find his aouthrterian politics palletable
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October 2, 2013 10:34am
wikiriwhis business

BP may face $18bn in fines for gross negligence as federal trial resumes

Plaintiffs’ attorney says BP was woefully unprepared for 2010 blowout and lied about how much oil was flowing from the well

Why are people still buying fuel from these criminals

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/sep/30/bp-gulf-oil-spill-negligence-fines
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October 2, 2013 10:35am
Kea

Griffy, watch it he is coming for you prog boy 🙂

I am just the vanguard of a political movement that is going to wipe Progressives off the face of the earth. They’ll disappear like the Dodo birds did.

I am spearheading a force that will grow from hundreds to thousands to millions and you will be gone.

Redbaiter KB 02 October 2013
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October 2, 2013 10:36am
kowtow

Why are people buying fuel from these criminals…..

cos my car don’t run on piss,wish it did though.

Imagine what that would do for the Indian economy.
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October 2, 2013 10:37am
Kea

Why are people still buying fuel from these criminals

Yes why are you ?

Or is your computer made of wood and hemp ?
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October 2, 2013 10:38am
Weihana

calendar girl (940) Says:
October 2nd, 2013 at 9:30 am

“the tea party is subverting the democratic process by stoping obama from implementing a policy he was elected on”

But there were also separate votes for the Congress which left Democrats with a Senate majority and Republicans with a House majority. Despite your personal view of what constitutes “the democratic process”, the electorate (and the US Constitution) did not elect President Obama to a dictatorship.

The Republicans control one house of one branch of government, and they only control it by virtue of gerrymandering the districts.

But aside from that it is ridiculous of them to believe they have some sort of right to hold the country to ransom in order to get unrelated concessions on other matters. It would be like the President refusing to sign a spending bill if gun control laws weren’t passed. The Tea Party are a deranged bunch of losers who do not have the support of most Americans. They are playing chicken with the US economy because they cannot handle that they lost. Even some members of the Republican party know how looney this faction of their party has become.
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October 2, 2013 10:38am
UglyTruth

coming from an Egyptian Jesuit.

Meet the Jesuit humanists, just like the secularists.

“on dialogue between cultures and civilizations based on rationality and on a vision of man and human nature which comes before any ideology or religion” ~ Jesuit Samir Khalil Samir

Interesting that St Malachy’s “Peter the Roman”, is a “Black Pope”.
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October 2, 2013 10:40am
Kea

A short time after the BP oil leak water quality had returned to pre leak levels, much to the disgust of environmentalists.

Organisms in the sea eat oil and the wave action assists in the break up of the organic matter that is crude oil. Often clean up chemicals do more harm than good. This has long been known but clean ups are done so the oil companies can be seen to “do something”.
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October 2, 2013 10:41am
Kea

Weihana, so you think US constitutional law should not apply when a filthy black warmonger is President ? Interesting !

Just like self defense laws don’t apply if the attacker is black and violent.
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October 2, 2013 10:44am
UglyTruth

http://henrymakow.com/fukushima_-_what_really_happen.html

Israeli security firm Magna BSP landed a security contract at Fukushima Daiichi shortly after Japan offered to enrich uranium for Iran. Soon after Magna BSP arrived, cybersecurity giant Symantec reported that the Stuxnet virus had infiltrated thousands of computers in Japan.

This is significant because Stuxnet is an Israeli invention. Magna BSP, an Israeli firm, had no previous history outside of contracts with Dimona, where the Stuxnet virus was born.

Stuxnet works by disrupting industrial hydraulics, the pipes and valves that drove Fukushima’s cooling systems. Stuxnet runs amok while sending normal readings to the engineers at their control stations. Israel is documented to have used this virus to damage centrifuges at a nuclear facility in Iran.

The cooling systems at Fukushima were controlled by Siemens software, which the Stuxnet virus was designed specifically to attack.

Stuxnet can be administrated via the kind of data link that Magna BSP installed before scramming back to Israel just prior to the disaster.
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October 2, 2013 10:47am
dime

“much to the disgust of environmentalists.”

sad eh? you know they were hoping the gulf was completely fucked. evil bastards.
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October 2, 2013 10:48am
kowtow

There was a poster called Uglytruth
Who has a microchip under his tooth

It gives him visions
A world of divisions

But really, he should be locked up in a booth.
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October 2, 2013 10:52am
Kea

dime, some birds managed to get past the gauntlet of wind farms and make it to the sea. Some got oil on them. The oil is gone but the wind farms are still killing millions of birds.
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October 2, 2013 10:53am
Tom Jackson

Dime is also doing Yoga at the moment.

Hippy. 🙂
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October 2, 2013 10:54am
Kea

“Hippy”

dime is doing it to get laid. He is so transparent 🙂
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October 2, 2013 10:55am
dime

Yoga freaking works!

Now that Dime is 37, Dime realised he wasn’t quite as flexible as he used to be.

Dime had visions of making old man noises as he got out of chairs.

So, yoga it is.

Dime weeps uncontrollably after each session HAHAHAHAHA Dime doesn’t do the spiritual side. Just the movements.
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October 2, 2013 10:57am
Kea

dime, Kea has 10 years on you (You will have noticed I am wiser). I am working on the Pistol Squat. Look it up on youtube.

It is a good test of flexibility, strength and balance. I aimed to do one by the end of the year. I found I could do them this week, but the form is not flash yet.

Give it a crack.
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October 2, 2013 11:00am
Redbaiter

Gosh, Tom Jackson and the rest of the progs seem to be really on edge this morning. Lies and smears flowing like water. Is that fear I smell?
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October 2, 2013 11:02am
dime

Kea – nice. Ill see how i go. a couple of years ago i was a squatting machine.. 220kg squats.. then i almost killed myself and havent squatted since ha
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October 2, 2013 11:03am
Harriet

“…..The Tea Party are a deranged bunch of losers who do not have the support of most Americans. They are playing chicken with the US economy because they cannot handle that they lost. Even some members of the Republican party know how looney this faction of their party has become….”

Make no mistake Weihana, Republicans will lose the House if disgusted Conservative voters sit at home next year. That’s reality Weihana.

House conservatives are determined to win re-elections with new mandates to fight for historic change!
They get and keep control of the House in 2014, then they’ve got an excellent chance at the Presidency in 2016 – with Ted Cruz.

“…..What grassroots conservatives have loudly shouted for since Mr. Obama’s election are leaders who fight critical battles to win; who, in fact, seek an historic NATIONAL SHIFT. That means leaders who are battling to end the long progressive era with its many insults to liberty and all the damages done….”

And that’s why Cruz is now openly rebelling against Republican Speaker John Boehner.

Cruz, like both Abbott and Ferange, is not a metrosexual! 😎
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October 2, 2013 11:03am
wikiriwhis business

wowwww…guess what I just found….Margaret Thatcher doing the dead parrot sketch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ6TgaPJcR0
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October 2, 2013 11:05am
Tom Jackson

Gosh, Tom Jackson and the rest of the progs seem to be really on edge this morning. Lies and smears flowing like water. Is that fear I smell?

No, that’s Santorum. Go have a shower.
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October 2, 2013 11:13am
Colville

my preferred breakfast is strong black coffee and a cigar.

You really need to round that off with two fingers of Wild Turkey 🙂
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October 2, 2013 11:20am
Redbaiter

Venezuela- another Progressive success story, but more notable for one aspect of its decline and that is its extreme demoralization. If you have a car accident there you are more likely to be robbed than assisted by anyone passing.

Socialists can’t exist in a moral society and have to break down any country’s moral base as a means of retaining power. Venezuela’s crime rates are through the roof and it has one of the world’s highest murder rates as the culture of socialism bite deep into its national psyche.

Venezuela is an example of the destruction modern day Progressive’s can bring to a culture, and as usual, the degeneration there is not Socialism’s fault, but rather the US’s. Or even Spiderman’s.

Barbarians at the Gate, the Society Chavez has Left Us.

Don’t let it happen here. Already two or three generations are lost to the power games of socialists. It will take two decades to right this destruction.
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October 2, 2013 11:20am
Carlos

@ Dime

My DDP Yoga DVDs just arrived. Will let you know how it goes.
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October 2, 2013 11:27am
dime

Carlos – nice! Im friends with an ex-wwe wrestler (connection through music, he sings in a metal band). he swears by it. he is in the infomercial etc. saved him after a prolapsed disc.
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October 2, 2013 11:29am
Dennis Horne

There was an old blogger called Kowtow
Who seemed always mired in a row
Often with Kea
Posing as a seer
After grand flourishing of facts took a bow.
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October 2, 2013 11:32am
Lucia Maria

Dime,

You know all those yoga poses are actually various Hindu god worship postures, right?
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October 2, 2013 11:34am
dime

Lucia – yeah. Is that a problem?
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