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October 13, 2013 8:00am by Kokila Patel

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Kea

What a curious mindset you have Lucia.

milky, just pop on your God goggles and see the world through the distorting lens of superstition. 🙂
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October 13, 2013 9:34pm
cha

Yesterday I attended a funeral service, the full monty requiem mass of the xtian burying jobbie, and I was struck by how old the congregation was. Small mercies.
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October 13, 2013 9:37pm
Lucia Maria

Mike,

So when Islamic culture and science was at its height, it was all credit to their subject peoples; but when their relative power and prestige declined, it was down to Islam? What a curious mindset you have Lucia.

That’s because more and more people converted to Islam over time, and with Islam comes a certain degenerative mindset that is anti every that is not Islam. It’s not really that difficult a concept to grasp. Look at every single country in the world today that is majority Muslim, that used to have an advanced culture in that area of the world and what do you see?
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October 13, 2013 9:41pm
cha

http://youtu.be/w5U-YT-mRmI
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October 13, 2013 9:42pm
Lucia Maria

The Chinese were the most advanced by a country mile, unhampered by religion.

And yet the West surpassed them. The Chinese wanted to know why and after much study came to the conclusion that it was Christianity that made the difference.
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October 13, 2013 9:44pm
Harriet

The irrational haters were out in Melbourne yesterday, and embarrasing themselves yet again.

As I’ve said before:

The pro-abortionists have been on the backfoot since Roe vs Wade!

http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2013/10/12/choosing-death-choosing-hate/comment-page-1/
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October 13, 2013 9:45pm
Kea

anti every that is not Islam

Just as you are anti everything that is not Christian.

And last time I checked the Chinese were doing ok. You better hope they don’t ask for their loans back from the worlds biggest Christian nation.
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October 13, 2013 9:51pm
Harriet

“……It’s not really that difficult a concept to grasp. Look at every single country in the world today that is majority Muslim, that used to have an advanced culture in that area of the world and what do you see?….”

Nothing much at all.

The ME has a grand total of about 6 Nobel prizes, while one university alone in the UK has something like 26 former students who have achieved Nobel prizes.

And more books in 2011 were translated into Spanish than have been translated into Arabic in total.

Islam has done nothing for humanity, currently does nothing, and will never do anything.
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October 13, 2013 9:54pm
Don the Kiwi

Lucia.

Go to goggle and check this article. It demonstrates that there were several vibrant Arab civilisations before Islam. Remember the Queen of Sheba, who consorted with Solomon 6th.c. BC?

ARAB CIVILIZATION AND ITS IMPACT ON THE WEST
By
Dr. ABDULLAH MOHAMMAD SINDI
(Ph.D. International Relations)
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October 13, 2013 9:56pm
Harriet

“….It demonstrates that there were several vibrant Arab civilisations before Islam…..”

Yes. ……before Islam……
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October 13, 2013 10:00pm
Kea

And before Christianity.
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October 13, 2013 10:04pm
Harriet

“…And before Christianity….”

Rubbish.

You only have the choice of the Gospel or the law. Or both. Or lawlessness.

Without the Gospel, everyone becomes legalistic, and as history has shown us that turns into tyranny.

It won’t end well, but turning humans into sausage meat never has.
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October 13, 2013 10:11pm
Kea

Harriet, what utter and complete rubbish. Advanced civilisations existed well before your particular desert cult was invented. The curse of religion has only held us back and it is time we grew up and ditched such pathetic crutches.
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October 13, 2013 10:15pm
Dennis Horne

The Catholic Church did its damndest to stop scientific discovery and progress and still only back pedals just enough to maintain some credibility with its adherents. Get them young and keep them poor and ignorant.
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October 13, 2013 10:24pm
Don the Kiwi

There were many vibrant cultures before Christianity – consider Egypt for starters, going back 5,000 years – even assisted in the foundation of the sons of Israel – until the old Pharoah got too greedy. The Roman civilisation emerged as the greatest and most powerful, surpassing the Greeks, but keeping their well developed sciences. All these cultures were pagan, except the Jewish, out of which grew Christianity, and later Islam – which is a compote of Jewish, Christian and pagan religions.

There’s no question though, that Christianity has acted as an anchor for the past 2000 years, even for those cultures and societies that have not fully adopted it. It will persist, depite the attacks of modernism in our present time.

Now I’m off to hit the sack. C U 2 mora
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October 13, 2013 10:26pm
Harriet

“……Harriet, what utter and complete rubbish. Advanced civilisations existed well before your particular desert cult was invented. The curse of religion has only held us back and it is time we grew up and ditched such pathetic crutches….”

“……..The Gnostic cult of progressivism, like it’s historical precedents, distorts the Creed and the Gospel into “purer” form, which inevitably resulted in the heretic’s standard playbook—communal marriages or the banning of all marriage, blood sacrifices and forced abortions, and often sedition and terrorism against the local resistors—- usually accompanied by a gaggle of the Wise who prescribed all manner of renunciation of modesty and piety as virtue. One could call them Paulicians, Cathars, Albigensians, a Senate, academia, the Cheka or a mob, for example, and not miss the mark. The dividing asunder of body and spirit indulged the passions while crippling the imagination and soul. Today’s Gnostics have rent Faith from Reason, but retain their obsessive piety, smuggled in on the heels of their humanism, which, like the heresies of their ancient (and recent) counterparts, is anti-human to its core.

What amuses me slightly is that these wonders of the rational and scientific age have questioned thought itself. For if the mind is an illusion of chemical firings, and meaning is assigned by whims of desire, there is nothing to think about (even one’s desires or whims!), and thought itself is impossible by their own lights. It does no good and makes even less sense to say in one breath that “there is no meaning” and in the next, “it is the right thing to do” or “think for yourself.”

They wish me to silence my thoughts on the unborn and call myself bigoted, all while they tell me that extorting my labors to provide for killing the unborn is the right thing to do. And they wrap these sentiments in a nice little frame they call “you can’t legislate morality” or “think for yourself.”

Stunning. ……”
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October 13, 2013 10:47pm
RichardX

What I find more stunning is Harriets continued intellectual dishonesty
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October 13, 2013 11:40pm
Manolo

Impending doom: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/12/us-usa-fiscal-banks-idUSBRE99B09F20131012
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October 14, 2013 6:01am
Manolo

Safe passage???? http://www.mail.com/int/news/europe/2393732-migrant-tragedies-sharpen-calls-safe-passage.html#.1258-stage-hero1-2
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October 14, 2013 7:08am
Lucia Maria

Don,

I looked up Dr. Abdullah Mohammad Sindi (a Saudi Arabian).

And found an article by him on Radio Islam: How the “Holocaust” is a typical Zionist myth.

Therefore, I have to conclude that anything written by the man is seriously suspect.
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October 14, 2013 12:34pm
Left Right and Centre

*********

Dear xxxxxxxx,

I am writing to apply for the position of ‘xxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx’ currently being advertised on Trademe.
I am a 36 year old accounting graduate who would love to take his first step into the corporate world. I am interested in the position because for me it would be, I dare say, life-changing if I’m chosen and achieve success in the position.
I have submitted my curriculum vitae to support my application. It shows that I would bring important skills to the position, including:

– Life experience
– Sound judgement
– Positive attitude
– Mental toughness/ determination
– User-friendly communicator
– Hard worker
– Attention to detail, numerical and grammatical accuracy.

I feel that I could be a good match for this position. I love anything with screeds of numerical information. I’m sure that part of why I run every day is due to the endless numbers and statistics that it generates, as well as lending itself to mental calculations of current speed and projected likely finish times whilst running. Retaining split times in memory. Comparing one leg to another. One run to another. Recording times and keeping count for each day/ month/ year. To me that’s good fun!!
I would enjoy having the opportunity to talk with you more about this position, and how I could use my skills to benefit your client’s organisation.
Thank you for considering my application. I look forward to hearing from you.
Yours sincerely,

LR&C

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You can stop calling me a total dole bludger now Russ. Just a partial one who tries to avoid slavecamps like McDorks.
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