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September 25, 2013 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 25 September 2013

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Harriet

Of course David Cuncliff and the rest of Labour wouldn’t want the Bill to be drawn out ! :

Joni Eareckson Tada, who has been a quadriplegic for 45 years knows all about this. She writes:

“….The weak have never fared well in cultures that view life as dispensable. Roughly seventy years ago in Nazi Germany the first ones to be carted away in the dark from institutions down long hallways in the middle of the night were the weakest of the disabled. Not just any disabled people.

No, Nazi medical teams singled out disabled people who had no visitors, no family, no advocates, no friends. No one to dare contend for their lives. No Christians were there to say, ‘Stop! She bears the image of God, and we will be her spiritual community. We will keep her connected to reality. We will not let her suffer alone.”

She continues, “With no moral compass, society does not know what to do with affliction, pain, and suffering……… Disability in a society that has lost its moral center is viewed as an intrusion to one’s comfort and convenience.

Now society has downright contempt for suffering. People do everything to eradicate it, to exorcise it surgically, institutionalize it, give it ibuprofen, divorce it – everything but live with it. And it is only a short philosophical hop, skip, and jump to the point where society also has contempt for people who suffer……”

No wonder we see such fervent and frequent pushes for abortion, euthanasia and even infanticide. It comes naturally in a culture which has closed its ears from hearing God, and is therefore reduced to a culture with no moral centre. Such a society is very ugly indeed, with the weak, vulnerable and suffering the first to go.

Millions of GPSs are being sold all around the globe. We cannot buy a spiritual and moral GPS, but we do know where to get one if we want it. Tragically most people do not want it however. As a result, our culture will become more and more lost, disorientated, deadened. Such a future does not bode well.

http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2013/09/24/the-culture-of-death-and-our-missing-moral-compass/
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September 25, 2013 8:01am
Keeping Stock

Watch and enjoy Winston Peters getting Tariana’d yesterday. That wouldn’t have happened to the younger, sharper Peters, but you cannot fight the ravages of Father Time. Does he have another election campaign in him, or have the late nights, booze and fags finally caught up with him?

http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2013/09/peters-gets-tarianad.html
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September 25, 2013 8:08am
Judith

Now, this is a good example of parenting in my opinion.

https://mega.co.nz/#!RpwAXBoI!DavW3n0QbGqFmcOUrhQvBRF-Biglz4xf0KgCray1kNc
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September 25, 2013 8:09am
Harriet

Herald Digi Poll is out :

Labour up 6.8%!

Key at his lowest in polling!

I got that from The Standard…………read the comments………..it’s like watching fucking dogs climax! 😎
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September 25, 2013 8:12am
wreck1080

kiwis likely going to lose start …. again…. please be wrong…
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September 25, 2013 8:14am
wreck1080

and i’m right, barker is hopeless!!!
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September 25, 2013 8:16am
All_on_Red

Just following on from yesterday’s post about Gareth Hughes I thought this quote by Ronald Reagan was appropriate. Reagan was talking about the “liberals” of his day of course.
“It would be immoral and the height of folly to infer these people are less patriotic than ourselves.But it would be equally foolish to let them have their way without opposition.If someone is setting fire to the house,it doesn’t really matter if he is a deliberate arsonist or just a fool playing with matches;the damage will be the same”
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September 25, 2013 8:19am
itstricky

it’s like watching fucking dogs

And the comments yesterday & today on KB following this will be like… Red faced constipated dogs Harry?

It is fundamentally funny that you think two sets of human beings will act in completely different ways just because of their political views. The same people exist here and everywhere.
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September 25, 2013 8:19am
Duxton

No, Barker’s not hopeless, wreck. They have thrown the race, and the competition. That’s the only possible explanation for how any team could turn so bad, so quickly.

Sports betting, anyone?
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September 25, 2013 8:25am
Keeping Stock

@ Harriet – yeah; the attack dogs at The Standard will be celebrating John Key being down; to “just” 55% support as preferred Prime Minister 😀
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September 25, 2013 8:25am
wreck1080

All I can say — pleeeease win. . .
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September 25, 2013 8:28am
hj

Harriet says:
No wonder we see such fervent and frequent pushes for abortion, euthanasia and even infanticide.
………………….
Did you ever see Johnny Got His Gun?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067277/plotsummary?ref_=tt_ov_pl
His choice to end his life was removed not by moral philosophy but religious indoctrination.
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September 25, 2013 8:54am
hj

If we loose we will be spared that America’s Cup ballyhoo and the meme that NZ is special can punch above it’s weight etc. All that world class city Auckland BS.
Every cloud has a silver lining.
Afterall New Zealand went through a discovery phase: Americas Cup, Lord of the Rings plus internet and along with the business spin doctors (and helped by left-wing changlings) got flogged to the rest of the world, while old NZ (the quarter acre pavlova paradise) got slandered as a dark unpleasant place.
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September 25, 2013 9:05am
flipper

Leaving the discussion on polls to the actual post, I thought the classic self interest stories this morning related to motel owners and operators. They are lobbying local government to make holiday homes subject to the RMA when they are rented to more than 6 persons.

I have a lakeside holiday home and I do not rent it. I loan it to family and friends with a note reminding them that a contribution toward the cost of electricity used would be welcome. Never once have I had to supplement the monies contributed.

But to the point. Were I wish to rent it, I would be telling the motel operators where to go, and trespassing each and every local body/RMA Nazi trying to intervene.
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September 25, 2013 9:06am
peterwn

So Labour are trying to hammer Nick Smith over dam reports. Perhaps Labour should remember that Margaret Wilson, its Attorney General, directly interfered in the Bill of Rights Act section 7 report on the Seabed and Foreshore bill. She rejected the departmental report and instead wrote it herself. Attempts to obtain the departmental draft under OIA at the time failed and AFAIK it has never been made publically available. The official concerned never had a hissy-fit over it – this is just par for the course with being a public servant. If that report had leaked, all hell would have broken loose within the Department with Heather Simpson demanding scalps.
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September 25, 2013 9:07am
dime

at least with americas cup, it only takes 3 minutes to watch..

tvnz streaming blows. what a surprise.

if you go to redbull you can stream the youtube feed. better quality. no idiot tv1 guys yelling at you.
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September 25, 2013 9:09am
dime

what a shock. Gareth Huges told some lies and ran away yesterday.

funny how he doesnt take offence when everyone points out he has never supported a mining project.

then again, he did get 2100 votes in the last election (down from 2600 in 08) so i guess its fair enough. he should be able to influence how we all live.

fuck i hate MMP
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September 25, 2013 9:12am
nickb

Could Big “Chris Rattue” Bruv be right for once? 🙂
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September 25, 2013 9:12am
hj

On The Panel with Jim Moira (shills have their turn) they are discussing productivity. He calls Eric Crampton and Neil Miller cheers.

Eric Crampton says he thinks we should look at agglomeration benefits due to a higher population, however according to report prepared for the Royal Commission on Auckland Governance:

Given that agglomeration economies appear to exist in Auckland, the size of the resulting
benefits is of interest. There is a wide range of size estimates internationally, with most
suggesting that doubling the size of a city will increase productivity by between 3% and
8%.
Any productivity boost would help Auckland firms compete more effectively against those
in other locations. However, considering the official projection of population growth in
Auckland (43% over the next 24 years), even elasticities at the top end of the international
range would result in (agglomeration-sourced) productivity gains of only 3% in total,
spread over the next two decades.
Moreover, agglomeration also brings added costs. Large cities also contain forces that
drive people away, and there is some Auckland evidence of such an effect for older
working age people in our report on the composition and scale of Auckland’s economy.
The literature identifies land constraints as a key source of forces pushing people away
from cities, and show up in land rents, the cost of commuting, and congestion. The
resulting trade-off between the costs and benefits of greater population densities is an
issue for regional government, impacting primarily on land-use and transport policy.
These are matters on which some policy coordination is clearly warranted.

and not to mention that lifestyle is productivity.
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September 25, 2013 9:31am
wikiriwhis business

Fascinating court action against the BBC
by UK citizens for lying about 9/11.

Interesting angle: In the UK, TV set owners
are required to subsidize the BBC. This chap
says they’re an organization that supports
terrorism – by lying about 9/11 – and won’t
pay his fee.

The judge listened and local police say
they’re taking up the case.

Video:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/24625.html
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September 25, 2013 10:02am
wikiriwhis business

The Feed has surprised the markets and continued QE instead of tapering off

Completely reinforcing Goldman and JP Morgan

No tapering?

The market rallies – and then gives
it all back on the next trading day.

Timely analysis from Karl Denninger.

Video:

http://www.realecontv.com/page/24632.html
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September 25, 2013 10:05am
Redbaiter

Why aren’t the mainstream media holding Greenpeace management to account for the sorry plight of the crew of their protest ship in Russia?

What responsibility does Greenpeace management take for sending its workers into such hostile working places and putting them at risk of serious criminal charges?

How about the safety aspect of sailing a ship into hostile waters and then asking the crew to scale or invade a working offshore oil rig?

What risk management and safety systems does Greenpeace deploy when carrying out this work?

There are a hundred questions that should be asked of Greenpeace now that NZers and other crew are detained in Russia and facing possible criminal charges that could be as serious as piracy and or industrial sabotage.

What do we hear from John Campbell? Nothing other than further advocacy for the cause when really there shoud be severe criticism of any employer who subjects its employees to this kind of danger and risk.

The parents of those detained are going to be really impressed if their children end up spending 5 to 15 years behind bars in Russia.

Will we see any such criticism from NZ media, who customarily fawn over environmentalists like lovestruck teenagers at a Jason Beiber concert?

When pigs pilot spaceships around the sun we might.
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September 25, 2013 10:40am
wikiriwhis business

Here’s some seemingly good news or just media spin ?

Fonterra’s towering new $8.30/kg milk price forecast for 2014 could help New Zealand accomplish what very few other countries could hope to achieve in these tight fiscal times – a reduction in national debt with a side helping of growth.

That’s the conclusion of BNZ economist Doug Steel after the dairy heavyweight startled the industry last night by announcing a 50c hike in its forecast milk price for the current season, taking the milk payment to a record $8.30, and projecting a cool extra $57,000 for the pockets of its thousands of dairy farmers.

The new forecast milk price, when coupled with an unchanged estimated dividend of 32c a share, will take the likely cash payout to a Fonterra farmer this season to $8.62. The average production dairy farm can look forward to revenue this season of more than $800,000.
-NZ Herald
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September 25, 2013 10:50am
iMP

Is Lianne Dalziel being upfront and truthful? This Press video captured a moment at 2.08sec. I think it’s very dodgy. Others agree.

http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2013/09/25/is-this-nz-politician-telling-the-truth/
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September 25, 2013 11:29am
Jack5

Is there a possibility NZ’s future might include a Malaysia-Singapore type split for Auckland and the rest of NZ?

We have a city that is increasingly becoming ethnically (and soon culturally) different from the rest of the country. It has a concentration of the national population matched in few if any other developed countries (Japan comes closest). If Sydney had the same proportion of the Australian population as Auckland does of NZ’s it would have 6.5 million people. Similarly New York would be home to 95 million Americans, and Shanghai home to 405 million Chinese.

If Auckland’s growing political power is at odds with the rest of largely agricultural-export oriented country, there will be an economic problem of huge proportions. A solution could be to carve out Auckland as a Singapore-style city state with strong Chinese component, earning its own foreign exchange from commercial and (optimistically) technology exports, while the rest of the country continued as a traditional Western economy. They could trade with each other.
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September 25, 2013 11:42am
bereal

A ‘must read’ for anyone studying how to elevate themselves from mindnumbing
mediocrity to a place right up there with true media stars like, say, Mathew Ridges old cook,
what was her name again ? Oh yeah, Sally wasn’t it ?

http://www.essentialmums.co.nz/mums-life/celebrities/9206152/Anna-Guy-Its-true
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September 25, 2013 11:44am
wikiriwhis business

Wealth Defence – what you don’t know about John Key’s real agenda – See more at: http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2013/09/03/wealth-defence-what-you-dont-know-about-john-keys-real-agenda/#sthash.yoiK81f6.dpuf

Our top income decile starts at a mere $72,000. The top one per cent begins at $170,000 and the top 0.4 per cent at $250,000. Presiding over this tiny group are the chief executives of large companies who receive an average salary of $1.5 million. Meanwhile, 70 per cent of New Zealanders earn less than $43,000 and 50 per cent less than $24,000 –

Outside of the ruling class most of John Key`s supporters are politically disengaged. They don`t write blogs or talk passionately about politics in public places. Altruistic concern is foreign to them. Their lives are dominated by the prospect of self advancement and the fear of downward mobility. John Key is their leader, a talisman of aspiration standing against the know-it-alls, doom mongers and bludgers. He`s made $50 million plus without a silver spoon accent or unnecessary erudition. The `aw shucks` mannerisms and occasional hesitancies seem reassuring.

John Key appeals to recent migrants without political knowledge of the national past and to anyone else who eschews the broader social picture. How is society organised? For what purpose and for whose benefit? Why are some people doing well and others not? If these questions are not publically addressed National will remain in office after 2014.

From the government`s perspective everything was going fine until a major book on inequality was launched and publicised. Then,last week Bryan Bruce`s `Mind the Gap` documentary on TV3 repoliticised the issue at the worst possible time.

The` living wage` campaign was under way and unions were marching against new labour legislation. In Labour`s caucus the right wing faction became leaderless. Two dead snapper were left twisting in the wind. The aspirants for David Shearer`s job invoked Norman Kirk and Michael Joseph Savage in the name of a more equal society.

For the Key government and its backers this is all bad news. For readers of the Daily Blog, however, it is now time for a `national conversation` as they say. So, let me start by discussing Max Rashbrooke`s edited collection, `Inequality: a New Zealand crisis`. – See more at: http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2013/09/03/wealth-defence-what-you-dont-know-about-john-keys-real-agenda/#sthash.yoiK81f6.dpuf
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September 25, 2013 11:50am
Elaycee

@Redbaiter (10.40am):

Why aren’t the mainstream media holding Greenpeace management to account for the sorry plight of the crew of their protest ship in Russia?

Merde! I agree 100% with Redbaiter!

Don’t expect to see any accurate reporting in our MSM about this any time soon – because reporting it for what it is (attempted sabotage / piracy) doesn’t align with the left wing sympathies resident at the Hoorald, TVNZ and TeeVee3.

The fact remains: these eco-terrorists were caught in the act of trying to scale an offshore oil rig platform. And because of their actions, they are now facing the music – and if that means they will be convicted and locked up in a Gulag, then they only have themselves to blame. Indeed, it could have been worse: if they were shot in the act of trying to illegally board the platform, then who could actually blame the people pulling the trigger for defending their own property?

What difference is there between these eco-terrorists and Somali pirates? [Answer: Apart from the location of the criminal activity, there is no difference.]

These activists / eco-terrorists / gweenies need to accept the fact that actions have consequences. And the reason these eco-terrorists are now bleating and squealing like stuck pigs, is simply because they were stopped / arrested and taken ashore to face a Court.

Unlucky. No sympathy here. Not even one little bit.
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September 25, 2013 11:53am
Fletch

Interesting. Leonard Maltin reviews the DVD, American Treasures from the New Zealand Film Archive

Major archives sharing their latest finds on DVD: that’s a 21st century concept, and the latest example is Lost & Found: American Treasures from the New Zealand Film Archive, just released by the National Film Preservation Foundation. By now, most film buffs are aware of the incredible cache of cinematic rarities uncovered in New Zealand over the past few years, including a long-lost John Ford feature and an early effort by Alfred Hitchcock. These and scores of short subjects have been preserved by a coalition of U.S. labs and archives in close cooperation with our Kiwi friends. But unless you live in the few major cities where these films have been screened, you haven’t been able to experience them first-hand…until now.

It’s impossible to itemize all the work that has gone into this project, from identifying films without main title cards to shipping volatile nitrate prints across the globe…but the enterprise has been blessed from the start and facilitated by right-thinking people in New Zealand and here in the U.S.

As it happens, the selection of films on the Lost & Found disc, running more than three hours altogether, comprise a time capsule of the silent era, including two feature films (John Ford’s delightful Upstream and an incomplete copy of the early Hitchcock effort The White Shadow), a serial chapter (Dolly of the Dailies), an animated cartoon (Paul Terry’s amusing Happy-Go-Luckies), a pair of slapstick comedies (Won in a Cupboard, directed by its star Mabel Normand, and Andy’s Stump Speech), a preview trailer (for a missing John Ford feature, Strong Boy), a picturesque early two-color Technicolor short (The Love Charm), a novelty (Lyman H. Howe’s Famous Ride on a Runaway Train), several newsreel segments, and even an educational film about the manufacture of Stetson Hats. Each subject, carefully transferred from original 35mm prints at the proper speed, is accompanied by an original music score.

http://blogs.indiewire.com/leonardmaltin/a-world-class-archive-on-your-home-screen
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September 25, 2013 12:00pm
Longknives

Bereal- Can you believe Anna Guy actually announces her pregnancy like she is fucking Kate Middleton? Does this sad, deluded woman think New Zealand actually cares?

Besides- how come nobody ever took her to task for not ‘standing by her man’ during the trial?
He was, after all- ‘innocent’…
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September 25, 2013 12:02pm
edhunter

I’ve no love for Gareth or the Greens, but at least he had the balls to attempt to interact yesterday even it was in poli double speak, i.e. say a lot without actually saying anything.
But the response from KB contributors was the sort of response I’d expect from Rick of the Young One’s all bluff & bravado but at the first sight of trouble you’d all be running for the hills & we all know what Ricks rhymes with.
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September 25, 2013 12:06pm
wikiriwhis business

More evidence that the rich are vile: AIG CEO thinks anger over exec bonuses is as bad as lynching

Oh, boy. In another sign that we live in a country of “Two Americas” in which there’s just no way in hell we’re ever going to get on the same page, the CEO of AIG, a man named Robert Benmosche, stated that the widespread irritation over bonuses.

Hilariously, the Wall Street Journal‘s headline for the article that contained this nugget of wisdom is “At AIG, Benmosche Steers a Steady Course.” Ooooookay. Did you guys read the article?

Oh, boy. In another sign that we live in a country of “Two Americas” in which there’s just no way in hell we’re ever going to get on the same page, the CEO of AIG, a man named Robert Benmosche, stated that the widespread irritation over bonuses.

was intended to stir public anger, to get everybody out there with their pitchforks and their hangman nooses, and all that—sort of like what we did in the Deep South [decades ago]. And I think it was just as bad and just as wrong.

Hilariously, the Wall Street Journal‘s headline for the article that contained this nugget of wisdom is “At AIG, Benmosche Steers a Steady Course.” Ooooookay. Did you guys read the article?

It’s almost useless to get into any details of how shockingly wrong and entitled this is. But let’s start with this: Benmosche is a very powerful person! He’s the boss at one of the largest financial concerns in the United States. It is to be taken for granted that he counts among his friends and acquaintances many powerful people in the worlds of commerce and politics. If Benmosche wants something to happen in order to aid his company, there’s a very good chance that it will happen, because he can exert his will over the social polis far more than other people can.

The true crime here is the unfair playing field that benefits men like Benmosche so lavishly—in a democracy, it is the right of the people to complain about precisely such things. There have been no reports of CEOs being lynched, beaten, denied their civil rights. None of those things ever happened. It wouldn’t take a conspiracy nut to point out that almost all of the people who committed the vast financial crimes of the 2004-2008 period were never dealt with by the courts for the systematic fraud they perpetrated.

http://dangerousminds.net/comments/more_evidence_that_the_rich_are_vile_aig_ceo_thinks_anger
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September 25, 2013 12:08pm
Tom Jackson

I see that Cunliffe has released timesheets disproving Matthew Hooton’s accusations.

lawl
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September 25, 2013 12:34pm
bereal

Longknives- Yep, it is quite sad, but even sadder is that it seems some sheeple do care.

Some even pay good money to buy magazines so they can lap up this sort of shit.

Still, i gotta hand it to Anna or her media manager, if she keeps this up she will soon
be almost as famous as Aja Rock. (by the way, whatever happened to Aja ?)
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September 25, 2013 12:43pm
RightNow

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/9207045/Greenpeace-activists-face-piracy-charges

There’s some things I really like about Russia.
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September 25, 2013 1:51pm
meh

Bradbury has finally lost it.. he’s on Twitter claiming that his blog was hacked and implying that the govt or gcsb had their hands in it. . Madness.
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September 25, 2013 1:56pm
edhunter

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/9202742/Teen-spared-jail-over-child-sex-charges

Seriously Really?? Are they going to at least spayed this bitch?
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September 25, 2013 3:51pm
Colville

*rant mode on*

So I am listening to George FM as I am working away as I sometimes do and this DJ comes on at 3, Zane Kirby and he is going on and on and on about how the boat builders that built the boat for Oracle are traitors and how they just took the money and wa wa wa and he is encouraging people to phone this company and abuse them, he goes as far as giving out their phone number over the air which really surprised me. All the time I am thinking well why cant you be happy that these NZers are so freaking good at building boats that Oracle used them and not maybe a bunch of Kraut engineers and all that dosh went to Germany .. and by now I am wanting to smash the radio…. arggghhhh…

Then… the news comes on…

Lead story is Cuntliffe padding his CV again with the Harvard stuff

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2013/09/a_third_case_of_padding.html/comment-page-1#comment-1206229

and this prick of a DJ talks over the news reader and wont let her finish the story saying he is a Liarbore Party supporter and that Cuntliffe has just started in the job and deserves a chance… at this stage I need to have a little walk about to cool down…

And after a little while to cool down I realise that what this dude expressed on air is exactly why I utterly hate the leftist scum that are the NZLP.

No surprise Mediaworks is rooted employing such a fuckwit DJ as this too.

*rant mode off*
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September 25, 2013 4:48pm
publicwatchdog

FYI Kiwibloggers 🙂

URGENT!

Sorry folks – only just found out that the DROP DEAD date for submissions is 5pm TODAY 25 September 2013

http://www.greenpeace.org/new-zealand/en/take-action/Take-action-online/defend-your-right-to-say-no-to-deep-sea-oil/

Dear Hon Amy Adams,

As an Auckland Mayoral candidate, I am REALLY concerned at how this New Zealand Government, led by ex-Wall Street banker, Prime Minister John Key, is so blatantly working in the interests of overseas investors and multi-national companies – the corporate minority.

Where is the precautionary ‘commonsense’ that arguably ordinary NZ ‘mums and dads’ would use?

Exploratory deep-sea drilling has proven to be highly risky. The world’s worst oceanic oil disaster, in the Gulf of Mexico, occurred from an exploratory well.

The repercussions and consequences from a deep sea oil drilling disaster have extended much further than from those who ‘took the risk’.

Who ends up underwriting and paying for ‘the risk’ – when things go wrong?

It is indeed rash to take an uncalculated risk.

Look at what happened with the Rena!

That was not a deep sea oil drilling disaster, but it proved that NZ could not / DID NOT cope with an oil spill, and that was close to shore.

The potential risks to New Zealand’s oceans, our coastal communities and economy from this drilling are huge. As a New Zealander I am DEEPLY concerned about these risks.

Where is the ‘prudent stewardship’ that the people should expect from those of you who govern us?

Deep-sea drilling is a major issue of public interest and concern and we have a right to oppose this. International law protects our right to object to oil drilling.

“The will of the people is the basis of the authority of government.”

Why does the ‘RULE OF LAW’. both nationally and internationally appear to be treated with such contempt, by this current Government?

How dare this National Government act to block New Zealanders from having a say in what happens in our own waters?

I most definitely agree that exploratory deep sea oil drilling should be classed as a prohibited activity.

Whose interests is this Government serving?

I agree that Government should be supporting clean industries that will reduce pollution, not those that risk what is most valuable to us – our unspoiled oceans and coastlines.

Think of the future, and the lives of future generations, not just of our species.

Think of our environment and all who live in it and depend upon it, including those who cannot make submissions, but whose lives may changed forever from decisions that YOU may make.

Please, use your power in a lawful and proper way, and do the right thing.

Yours sincerely,

[Penny ] [BRIGHT], [New Zealand]
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September 25, 2013 4:51pm
Colville

Thanks Penny, it only took a few minites for me to send in my submission in support via the Greenpeace website 🙂
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September 25, 2013 4:57pm
Viking2

Looks like we taxpayers are gunna get shafted once more.

the Government has stated that, to date, they have only provided Southern Response with $100 mln of taxpayer bailout money, and they ‘have committed’ an additional $400 mln buffer but stated that it will likely not be needed, this is shown on the balance sheet. The facts now show that every penny of this is currently required or the company would be insolvent and could not continue to operate under NZ law.

Point four: despite the spin of significant progress, the estimates of total claim liability keeps steadily growing. This means Southern Response are slowly cash settling claims, however their liability is continuing to grow at the same rate:

http://www.interest.co.nz/property/66535/opinion-cam-preston-looks-recently-released-financials-southern-response-and-worried-
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September 25, 2013 5:00pm
publicwatchdog

What do Kiwibloggers think about railroaded ‘consultation’ and ‘retrospective’ decision-making, by this ‘Corporate-Controlled-Organisation’ – the Auckland Council?

Where is Committee for Auckland member – Auckland Council CEO – Doug McKay?
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http://www.mfe.govt.nz/publications/oceans/managing-our-oceans/activity-classification-under-the-eez-act.pdf

Minister for the Environment “Activity Classification under the EEZ Act”

http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/SiteCollectionDocuments/aboutcouncil/governingbody/governingbodyag20130926.pdf

Governing Body
26 September 2013

Submission on Discussion Document: Activity Classification under the Exclusive Economic Zone
(EEZ) Act

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Submission on Discussion Document: Activity Classification under the Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) Act
File No.: CP2013/23527

Purpose

1. To seek a retrospective approval from the Governing Body on the submission on the discussion document “Activity Classification under the Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) Act”.

Executive Summary

2. The Government is seeking feedback on its proposals for regulating exploring drilling for oil and gas in the EEZ, discharges of harmful substances from off-shore structures, and production facilities on board mineral mining ships, and the dumping of waste.

3. The Minister for the Environment has called for submissions by 5pm on 25 September 2013.

4. At the 18 September 2013 Auckland Plan Committee meeting, members of the Committee were presented a summary of key points of a submission on the Ministry for the Environment discussion document

“Activity Classification under the EEZ Act”, on the regulation of exploratory drilling, discharges of harmful substances and dumping of waste in
the Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf.

5. The Auckland Plan Committee meeting requested a workshop to draft the submission document and also to include views from the Local Boards and iwi. A workshop has been scheduled for the Auckland Plan Committee on 25 September 2013 to provide an informal direction on the submission document.

The submission document will be sent off by the end of the day of 25 September 2013 under delegated authority of the Chief Executive.

6. The submission document will be tabled at the Governing Body meeting on 26 September 2013 for a retrospective approval.

Recommendation/s
That the Governing Body:

a) retrospectively approve the submission on discussion document: Activity Classification under the Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) Act.

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Author Crispian Franklin – Democracy Advisor
Authoriser Andrew McKenzie – Acting Chief Executive
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Penny Bright
‘Anti-corruption /anti-privatisation’ campaigner
2013 Auckland Mayoral candidate

http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz
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September 25, 2013 5:10pm
publicwatchdog

Media Update: Auckland Mayoral candidate Penny Bright:

“Seems that I got a very poor result in the Generation Zero ‘questionnaire’. GOOD!”

http://localelections.generationzero.org.nz/…/penny-bright

How many people actually understand that UN Agenda 21 is a massive corporate ‘GREENWASH’?

http://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/…

Sustainable Development in the 21st century (SD21)
Review of implementation of Agenda 21 and the Rio Principles

Agenda 21 did not address the interconnectedness of the various goals, because it was not “allowed” to examine the economic system itself.

Nor did it explore the fundamental drivers of sectoral and inter-country outcomes, which include:

• the role of corporations, and multi-national corporations (MNCs) in particular;

• the role and impacts of trade and globalisation;

• the role of international economic governance in helping steer the whole system;
_________________________________________________________

I may be many things but a ‘SHEEP’ is not one of them.

Like the global capitalist economic system is not controlled by multi-national companies?

DUH?

Like multi-national companies are not the main ones responsible for polluting and destroying the planet?

Through this corporate UN Agenda 21 ‘GREENWASH’ they try to spin it that the planet is a mess – that it’s we the peoples’ fault and it’s OUR job to clean up it up?

Wakey wakey folks! Generation Zero supporters may like to ‘SEEK TRUTH FROM FACTS’ and check this out?
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If Generation Zero support UN Agenda 21 (which is my understanding) – then I am VERY proud of my ‘score’.

Also – how many Generation Zero supporters are aware that the root cause of corruption is privatisation?

That in 2010 – the global procurement market was $14 TRILLION – of which $2.5 TRILLION was estimated to be lost to bribery and corruption?

Don’t you think that $2,500 BILLION might help to feed, clothe, shelter and water a few poor people?

(I got these figures from the 2010 Transparency International Anti-Corruption Conference, which I attended, as an independent, anti-corruption ‘whistle-blower’ from New Zealand) .

Kind regards,

‘Her Warship’

Penny Bright
‘Anti-corruption/anti-privatisation’ campaigner
2013 Auckland Mayoral candidate

http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz
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September 25, 2013 6:24pm
Lucia Maria

When you thought that Jihadists only attack and blow themselves up, now we have Sex Jihad, where women give themselves to the Jihadists to help them in their Jihadiing.

At any rate, by the time war broke out in Syria, Lamia’s mind was “dough for the cleric to mold any which way he wanted.” He proceeded to send her to Benghazi, Libya, then to Turkey, and then to Aleppo, Syria.

There she found many women and young girls residing in an old hospital that had been turned into a campsite. A man claiming to be the “emir” of the sexual campground met her saying his name was Abu Ayoub, the Tunisian. But, she said, the true leader was a Yemeni, who appeared leading a group of jihadis calling themselves “Omar’s Battalion.” He was the first to take her.

Lamia confessed that she did not know how many men had sex with her and that all that she remembers is being abused, beaten, and forced to do things “that contradict all sense of human worth.” She also said that she met many Tunisian women including one who died while being tortured for trying to escape.

Finally, released back to Tunisia, Lamia has been to a doctor finding that she is five months pregnant. Both she and her unborn are carrying the aids virus.

Islam, the religion of rapists and cowards.
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September 25, 2013 6:53pm
Left Right and Centre

She’s a potential cashcow, isn’t she longknives? So people who stand to make money out of her would be mad not to try it on.

And there’s plenty of fuckheads out there who will be into it. The same losers that can’t wait to get to the McDs ‘drive-thru’ and watch Outrageous Fortune on dvd. The Shortland St crowd.

The only reason she’s ‘making it’ is because she’s pretty combined with the case. That’s it. It’s surely not because of her sharp intellect or sparkling personality.
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September 25, 2013 6:57pm
Kea

Lucy, refreshing to see you lashing out against religion. I knew a smart lady like you would see her way through all this supernatural nonsense. 🙂
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September 25, 2013 7:00pm
Left Right and Centre

Gale force start to the run today iKea…. son of a bitch

I think this is a religious blog. The living dead are all over the show here.
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September 25, 2013 7:15pm
Redbaiter

Email Kea about your nowhere runs you self centered dimwit.
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September 25, 2013 7:23pm
Steve (North Shore)

Everything was going fine until 4.51pm, 5.10p , 6.24pm; and then 6.23pm, 7.00pm.

Sorry, I was asleep, did I miss anything?
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September 25, 2013 7:25pm
Lucia Maria

LRC,

If you think this is a religious blog, then you’d probably fall over and die if you ever wandered into a real one.

Kea,

Well, false religions that use women as sexual slaves tend to get me going.
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September 25, 2013 7:25pm
Kea

LRC, I am slowly making progress with my running. I have found that less runs, but high intensity, works best for me. The gains are greater and faster. So it is back on the stop watch for every run from now on. Also working on those Pistol Squats and general fitness. I want to see what this old body can do.

I have pretty much given up on Friday drinks and are working on my raging nicotine gum addiction. A minister mate of mine gave me a big box of the stuff at half my normal strength. I am going to try and kick it with that box and be totally addiction free. As a point of interest, when I was at my fittest I smoked like a train. I actually smoked more than when I was less fit. My resting pulse was 38 beats a minute and I could do 10km in 33 minutes. 36 years old at that time. No one could believe I smoked.
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September 25, 2013 7:29pm
nasska

This should help you inject a little originality into your raving Baity. 🙂

Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9np97uyv79zuhvx/Conservonutter.jpg
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September 25, 2013 7:31pm
Kea

religions that use women as sexual slaves tend to get me going.

Lucy this is a family blog you little flirt 🙂
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September 25, 2013 7:31pm
Lucia Maria

Family blog! LOL!
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September 25, 2013 7:41pm
nasska

Melbourne International Airport

Melbourne Tower : “Saudi Air 511 — You are cleared to land on runway 9R.”
Saudi Air : “Thank you Melbourne. Acknowledge cleared to land on infidel’s runway 9R –
Allah be Praised.”

Melbourne Tower : “Iran Air 711 – You are cleared to land on runway 27L.”
Iran Air : “Thank you Melbourne. We are cleared to land on infidel’s runway 27L. – Allah is Great.”

Pause….
Saudi Air : “MELBOURNE TOWER – MELBOURNE TOWER !”
Melbourne Tower : “Go ahead Saudi Air 511…”
Saudi Air : “YOU HAVE CLEARED BOTH OUR AIRCRAFT FOR THE SAME RUNWAY GOING IN OPPOSITE DIRECTION. WE ARE ON A COLLISION COURSE . … .. .. … INSTRUCTIONS, PLEASE!”

Melbourne Tower : “Proceed to your destination and tell Allah we said “Hi”.
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September 25, 2013 8:00pm
Redbaiter

FFS..

What are you posting this crap on Kiwiblog GD for?

Its all over the fucking net if you want to read jokes.

You sad loser.
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September 25, 2013 8:07pm
nasska

…”You sad loser”….

Is that the best you can do? You’re losing your mojo Baity. 🙂
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September 25, 2013 8:13pm
mikenmild

On a more serious note, I really, really want to hear more from Ugly about how Betty Windsor is a shape-shifting alien who personally ate 10 Canadian orphans in the 1960s.
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September 25, 2013 8:16pm
Redbaiter

Its accuracy that counts. You’ve got nothing but tired old jokes and your gayboy friend has got nothing but self focused narcissistic crap. Just losers and trolls the both of you.
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September 25, 2013 8:19pm
nasska

The scary part is that the loops really think this way. 🙂

Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/53e8rzav59858tr/Conservonutter%202.jpg
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September 25, 2013 8:24pm
mikenmild

nasska
A fairly accurate summary of Reddy’s views there. Do you think he will grow out of those views as he emerges from those difficult early teenage years?
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September 25, 2013 8:29pm
Kea

I am a narcissistic, troll, prog, commie, gay, loser. I never thought I was that interesting really 🙂
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September 25, 2013 8:32pm
Johnboy

Have I missed out on Lucia flirting again? 🙂
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September 25, 2013 8:33pm
nasska

I think Baity is, chronologically at least, quite a lot older than you suggest mikenmild. I reckon that it would take about forty years of sucking lemons & dry masturbation to get an attitude like that. 🙂
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September 25, 2013 8:34pm
Johnboy

Fortunately I have also missed another party political nonsense broadcast from the Dim woman! 🙂
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September 25, 2013 8:35pm
Kea

Johnboy, did you what !

Lucy said the thought of sexual slavery got her going. Fair dinkum.
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September 25, 2013 8:37pm
mikenmild

nasska
He’s just an angry young boy given too much licence to browse nutty websites. He reminds me a bit of the anti(hero) from ‘A Confederacy of Dunces’, but less mature.
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September 25, 2013 8:37pm
nasska

So you still haven’t received your barbed wire JB? 🙂
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September 25, 2013 8:38pm
Johnboy

I could use a good looking slave at the moment with lambing and all.

If she want’s a bit of sex as well I could ask Cecil if he could manage another. 🙂
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September 25, 2013 8:39pm
Kea

Red loves us all at the troll farm/prog sewer. He feels at home here. How else do you explain him spending all day on KB rather than hanging out with the purse lipped poo faced conservatives on his own blog ?
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September 25, 2013 8:42pm
Johnboy

The mother in law popped in for a week and knitted 5km nasska! 🙂

Penny can just fuck off.
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September 25, 2013 8:44pm
nasska

….”the purse lipped poo faced conservatives on his own blog”….

I think they beat the rats off the ship when it hit the reef Kea. Truebluenz is the cyber equivalent of a barely afloat Marie Celeste. 🙂
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September 25, 2013 8:50pm
Kea

nasska, he should allow gay troll-progs on his site to breath some life into it. But his Taliban like intolerance means few meet is uncomprimising demands for ideological ~~insanity~~ purity.
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September 25, 2013 8:56pm
nasska

….”should allow gay troll-progs on his site to breath some life into it”…..

A trifle late Kea…..it’s gone too far this time. Best just a quick incineration & the ashes scattered at the Tomb of the Insane Conservonutter. 🙂
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September 25, 2013 9:04pm
Reid

Fukushima update.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/humankinds-most-dangerous-moment-fukushima-fuel-pool-at-unit-4/5350779

But I’m sure it’s OK. After all, the media would tell us, wouldn’t they.
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September 25, 2013 10:20pm
Left Right and Centre

Nah – I like pissing you off too much. Don’t read my posts – I don’t read your barrow pushers.
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September 26, 2013 12:27am
Left Right and Centre

Lucia Maria I’d fall over and die if you didn’t post anything remotely religion related for your next 1 671 comments.

IKea – 33 minutes for 10kms? That’s insanely lightening fast – I’m well behind that at the same age. I don’t even really need the calculator for that one…it’s got to be around 18km/h. Hang on. Yeah – 18.18km/h. Fuck. That’s in a different league mate. World class runners you’re looking at 20-22km/h or something. Are you sure about 33 mins? I’ve never cracked 40. If I get under 42… I’m fairly topped out. And I average 48-50 now. Even just fastest 1km…. maybe I’ve run a 3’30”? Shit.

That is interesting regarding effects of smoking while physically active. My reaction is actually a shoulder shrug. I’ve got no idea why you can’t smoke and also have top fitness. I’ve never smoked though so I don’t know.

I’m thinking now – who’s better off? The non-active non-smoker, or the full-on very active smoker like you were? Does it work out the same? I’ve never thought about it… hmmm.

As you of course know the drinks taste nice but tickle the old energy equation. Either way eh? I would love to make a big arse chocolate caramel slice and just keep going until it tastes like shit and I’m doubled over on the floor groaning. The grass is always greener.

Wallytown weather is royally rooting the running. 10kms behind and too soft so far to run in the driving wind and rain again in the same 24 hours. Bugger.

33 fucking minutes. Whoa. Adjust for age (yeah?) – wonder what you could do now?
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September 26, 2013 1:06am
Longknives

“who’s better off? The non-active non-smoker, or the full-on very active smoker like you were? ”

I’m no expert (I’ve never smoked either) but I think smoking fucks you bigtime…
I’d put my dollar each way on the fat,lazy non smoker….
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September 26, 2013 1:22am
Left Right and Centre

longknives… yeah? Ok.. well it’s another pointless bit of trivia for me to look into anyway – good fun.

iKea… I sucked it up and went out into the shitstorm. You might laugh at the numbers:

0-2.5: 12’51” 2.5-5: 13’31” 5-7.5: 15’19” 7.5-10: 10’28”

Do you really need any hints as to which way was into a 50-60km horizontal rain shower southerly? I walked parts of that shitty run. Five times on leg three. Don’t know how the time ended up 52’09” with all the walking – ?? 10.6km/h into wind, 12.5km/h with tailwind. You know what? I get the feeling that wind direction affects my running speed. You think?

The worst part is – it’s now 2-3 hours later and the weather seems to be clearing big time. Son of a bitch
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September 26, 2013 5:30am
Kea

33 fucking minutes. Whoa. Adjust for age (yeah?) – wonder what you could do now?

LRC, I intend to find out what I can do now. It is fast but there are people who run marathons at a faster pace now days ! I can tell you it is pretty humbling starting over again. Your brain thinks you can still run like that and I have had to teach myself to slow my pace down, waaay down. I could only do about 300 meters at that pace now, not 10,000 meters. I smoked and drank like a fish for a few years after my marriage break up. Did not look after myself and did not give a shit either. So it will be interesting to see what my battered old body can do. 🙂
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September 26, 2013 7:07am
big bruv

“Islam, the religion of rapists and cowards.”

Lucia. You know full well that the same quote applies to the sick, perverted and evil religion that you unthinkingly support.

“Catholicism, the religion of child rapists and cowards”
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September 26, 2013 7:16am
Kea

big bruv, they attribute every wrong to the religion of the wrong doer, unless the wrong doer is Christian, in which case they go to great lengths to distance the wrong doer from the religion. Crazy stuff.

I know a few Muslims and they are as appalled by that shit as we are. They also do not hold Middle Eastern Muslims in very high regard. The issue is more cultural than religious. They treated women like dirt before Islam.
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September 26, 2013 7:23am
UglyTruth

On a more serious note, I really, really want to hear more from Ugly about how Betty Windsor is a shape-shifting alien who personally ate 10 Canadian orphans in the 1960s.

Probably just wasting my time on you infidels, but here’s a brief rundown:

Shapeshifting as myth is part of the histories of countless cultures on this planet, the most well known western variant being the werewolf. The Hopis and some other native Americans call them skinwalkers. The popular meme of shapeshifting reptilians in the house of Windsor originated with David Icke. His primary witness was Arizona Wilder, who later recanted her account of having witnessed members of the house of Windsor shapeshift into lizard-like humanoids as part of a ritual sacrifice which involved drinking the blood of the victim and eating their flesh. Other people to have reported seeing similar shapeshifting events are Cathy O’Brien and Cisco Wheeler.

Some have argued that the Nephilim (the fallen) are associated with the religious ritual of blood sacrifice, and there is some basis for this in the book of Enoch. The Nephilim were sometimes described as being giants, just as reptilians are generally describes as being taller then the average human. Animal sacrifice did not originate with Judaism, and its introduction marked the beginning of the Hebrew’s slavery in Egypt. The religious ritual of animal sacrifice later developed into the Christian ritual symbolism of cannibalism and blood drinking during communion. Of course the house of Windsor is home to the “supreme goverrnor” of the Anglican church, which was accused of genocide and atrocities against children in the Canadian residential schools.

The story about the 10 Canadian children was from William Coombes, who was reportedly murdered after telling his story to the ITCCS and others. Coombes said that they were made to kiss the feet of Philip and Elizabeth Windsor, and left with them for a picnic, never to be seen again. The state of Canada has been involved in a “truth an reconciliation” process with the survivors of the Christian residential schools. Numbers of deaths occurring in the schools have been reported at 50,000 children, with a 50% survival rate.
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September 26, 2013 7:40am
Ian McK

Flapper: You once again show your fiscal inability. Motel operators pay taxes, and every compliance cost imaginable, employ staff (more costs); yet a loser such as you holds them in contempt. Then, to talk about trespassing people, well that shows the type of person you are . . . a wimp. No wonder National are going down the track when they have people like you as party execs.
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September 26, 2013 7:48am
mikenmild

Thanks Ugly. What I really wanted to ask was do YOU believe the queen is a secret reptilian cannibal?
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September 26, 2013 7:54am
UglyTruth

What I really wanted to ask was do YOU believe the queen is a secret reptilian cannibal?

What I believe isn’t important. What is important is what a reasonable man would believe, having possession of the relevant facts.
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September 26, 2013 8:08am
ste3e

Prior to 1840 countries traded with each other on a quid pro quo basis; trade in exchange for monies only occurred in times of extra need (crop failures, war expenditure, etc), in which case the money traded between nations was precious metal. This meant the elected government designed and legislated its own internal economy, and if the economy did not work for the voting public the government could be replaced and the economic system redesigned to meet the needs of the voting public (logically this is true even if historically the situation was beset with monarchies). This is to say, the economic system was legitimate for the people operating under its laws because the people voted for the legislative body (the government) that made the economic system legal.

The international economy, the WTO and organizations that implement international law are designed by the multinationals, bankers and magnates who funded the lawyers (and politicians) that allowed and disallowed the laws enacted by those legislative bodies. Yet those legislative bodies are not legitimated by the peoples who live under their laws because the people have not voted for them. Living under the jurisdiction of non-elected legislative bodies is by definition living under tyranny.

The democratic façade and its propaganda machinery is simply a means of controlling the population while appropriating their labor for the profit of those who designed the international legislative bodies (multinationals, bankers and magnates). Is it any wonder then, that we have labor laws designed for Hollywood; that even though the majority of New Zealanders believe we should be progressing toward green technologies we find the government pushing extractive technologies. It is not the will of the people the government is pursuing it is the will of the international economy (deep sea drilling).

John Key is the wrong man for the job because he has shown at every turn that he is on the side of the international tyranny irrespective of the wants of the New Zealanders. We, waiting for the gold promised, while watching the deficit deepen, find our own voice diminished, our sovereignty deeply in jeopardy.
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September 26, 2013 9:46am
Left Right and Centre

ste3e I think I can safely speak for the rest of everything known and unknown here….

Dude…., like, what the fuck??
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September 27, 2013 4:00am
Left Right and Centre

UglyTruth Apart from sounding like a lawyer, you come across as overly serious in an over the top theatrical style. I’m just saying. Like – Morpheus in The Matrix.
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September 27, 2013 4:04am
Left Right and Centre

That’s the thing with running, eh? Funny how people can get quite old without losing a hell of a lot of speed.

Mate – don’t sweat starting off being down on speed. That happens to me every other fucking day!! Every now and then I’ll smoke it at between 14-15km/h…. nek minnit…. struggling to keep 10kms down to low 50s. 11km/h is just not cool…. hehehehe

Cool when it works the other way though… went from 52 mins to 40’51” thirteen hours later in perfect windless sunshine.

Would be good if your foot problem disappears from ramping up the kms.

Oh well mate, what can do? I’m mid-thirties… never married… never likely too. Better to have loved and lost? Nah – that’s just an irritating saying.

I remember not giving a shit about food. That was awesome – fuck I miss it now. Shit, it was only a year ago. Running was meant to be for weight control. I’m not meant to care about times apart from minimum speed of 10km/h.

Disclaimer: No-one needs to read from here on.

Well – I’m in the best shape now since…….ever. In my adult life. Or any time in life. So… why not shoot for that? No-one likes a skite but seriously – I like doing forearm curls until the whole upper body looks like a fuckin 3D subway map is trying to rip it’s way out of the skin. I’m going to do some right now… .can’t type about it and not do it…. ok, that’s better.

I’ll tell you two things I know are dumb. (1) I’ve still got a skinny arms mentality even though they’re sort of ok. They must look worse looking down on them. (2) I haven’t fucked with my new body yet. That’s just wrong.

My theory of physical attraction: Men like tits, women like arms.
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