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September 13, 2013 4:00pm by David Farrar

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Which Labour leadership candidate talks about local procurement yet their website is hosted offshore?

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Black with a Vengeance

oooh i know the answer to this one its…

David Whogivesaflyingfuckanyway!
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September 13, 2013 4:03pm
DylanReeve

Really David? Really?

I bet they procured the web design locally, and probably pay a local company for the hosting too.
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September 13, 2013 4:07pm
David Garrett

He’s just told you it’s hosted OFFSHORE you dipshit…that means OVERSEAS in ANOTHER COUNTRY….
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September 13, 2013 4:24pm
Dirty Rat

Have something to eat DG, and for fuck sake, don’t give up smoking
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September 13, 2013 4:27pm
Sidey

If it involves hypocrisy, my guess is all three.
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September 13, 2013 4:27pm
Redbaiter

“If it involves hypocrisy, my guess is all three.”

The question was which ONE of the three. Your attempted guess, especially as hypocrisy is not something peculiar to Labour Party politicians, is way off the mark and shows you did not comprehend the question.
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September 13, 2013 4:32pm
Duxton

Would it be the one who sacked his campaign manager without following due process, or following the expectations that Labour has of private sector employers?

Or perhaps the one who uses a government credit card, issued by a foreign-owned bank, to pay for the porn movies he tossed off over?

Or is it Helen Clark’s friend?
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September 13, 2013 4:38pm
Sidey

Crikey Red, are you stalking me across threads now, just to prove something? So, do you have something to contribute to the actual post itself, or just being you?

But to keep you happy: Cunliffe. Satisfied? All good now? Back to sleep you go.
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September 13, 2013 4:47pm
Redbaiter

This isn’t some teenage chat room Sidey. Just deal with the OP or shut up.
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September 13, 2013 4:48pm
berend

Obviously Cunliffe. His site is hosted in the US provider. I suppose no one in NZ could host a site like David’s.
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September 13, 2013 4:49pm
dubya

Leave the poor guy alone, it’s probably hosted by an old mate from Harvard…
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September 13, 2013 5:00pm
DylanReeve

He’s just told you it’s hosted OFFSHORE you dipshit…that means OVERSEAS in ANOTHER COUNTRY….

Many NZ-based web companies buy wholesale hosting services from US-based companies. It’s entirely possible that the candidate’s campaign is buying design and hosting from an NZ provider who has server space in the US. Dipshit.

And, for what it’s worth, both Cunliffe and Robertson’s sites seem to be served from US-based hosting providers. I couldn’t even find a website for Shane Jones.
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September 13, 2013 5:17pm
gump

Only a moron or a spendthrift would pay to have their site hosted in New Zealand.

Why would you pay more for a lower quality service?
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September 13, 2013 5:34pm
Sir Cullen's Sidekick

Not an issue, move on DPF bro. Check the Roy-Morgan poll out today. Labour-Greens government in place on 8th November 2014. Game over for Nats.
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September 13, 2013 5:35pm
davidp

If I could ask a stupid question… How can you tell where the site is hosted?
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September 13, 2013 5:38pm
OneTrack

Only a moron or a spendthrift would pay to buy products made in New Zealand.

Why would you pay more for a lower quality product.
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September 13, 2013 5:57pm
OneTrack

Maybe it’s hosted on one of the servers run by that hero of the left, dot com. His sites are hosted offshore as well. After all, it’s only bad when those evil corporations do it. It’s ok when the left does it. Do as I say, not as I do.
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September 13, 2013 5:59pm
Rex Widerstrom

I administer several Australian sites that are hosted on Australian servers.

But… I use Cloudflare, which means the IP first resolves to their US server, to protect against DDoS attacks and the like.

And… my Australian web hosts offer a service whereby they back up their entire database offshore so that in the event of a significant failure in their infrastructure they’d switch their nameservers to point to the US backup. They sometimes also do this during major upgrades.

So are you absolutely sure it isn’t in fact in NZ?
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September 13, 2013 6:37pm
Alan

Both the ACT & Conservative Party web sites are hosted overseas.

Not that any of this matters of course
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September 13, 2013 6:54pm
davidp

Rex>But… I use Cloudflare, which means the IP first resolves to their US server, to protect against DDoS attacks and the like.

I’ve had experience with Incapsula which does something similar, which is why I asked my question about how we know where it is hosted. Incapsula is a cloud based web application firewall and I think it is a great concept. Essentially your web site, via Incapsula, presents itself to the internet in hundreds of different data centers all around the world. Leaving your actual web server protected from all manner of attacks including DDOS, and with a full time security team looking for new threats.

http://thehackernews.com/2012/10/incapsula-essential-cloud-based_15.html
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September 13, 2013 7:05pm
seabreezeent

All I can come up with is Who Gives a Shit or a Flying rats arse, I can’t decide.
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September 13, 2013 7:38pm
RandySavage

Farrar should get out more
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September 13, 2013 9:00pm
David Garrett

Alan: Now take a deep breath and try and follow this….Cunliffe makes a big deal about “buying New Zealand”, ahead of all other considerations – price, quality, fitness for purpose etc….ACT and the Conservatives make no such supposedly principled stand…ergo (now here’s the slightly difficult bit) Cunliffe is being hypocritical by having his website hosted overseas – presumably because of price, quality, and fitness for purpose etc. – whereas the other two parties …arent..

Now, if you still can’t follow why this little issue is worthy of DPF’s attention, take two deep breaths, and start again from “Cunliffe makes a big deal…”
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September 13, 2013 9:08pm
Left Right and Centre

RandySavage He’s been to America recently and now he’s off in some other country. Where have you been to lately?
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September 13, 2013 10:58pm
Northland Wahine

I wouldn’t mind getting out as “little” as David F.
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September 13, 2013 11:02pm
Left Right and Centre

overseas website… what a hypocrite… I’m outraged…. blah blah… nah not really. *SNORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
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September 13, 2013 11:05pm
Jim

Hosting offshore may seem like a small point but it goes some way to diminishing the conviction he has for the ideas he spouts.

I’ve sought out NZ-based hosting before. It exists, it works, but it is considerably more expensive than US-based alternatives. I’d put this down to efficiencies of scale (lack of) in NZ.

This is a key factor in a lot of the rubbish that some NZ politicians spout: that we should ignore the things that other countries do more efficiently and instead pay more to local companies that can’t do the same job for the same price.

Stupid thinking, but if you believe it then you should at least follow it.

http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://cunliffe.co.nz
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September 13, 2013 11:32pm
gump

@David Garrett

You don’t seem willing or able to follow the discussion.

If our “Candidate X” is paying a local web development firm to build and host the website then he almost certainly has no knowledge or control over where it is hosted.

Web hosting in New Zealand is relatively expensive and of lower quality than other regions. So most developers have reseller accounts that allow them to buy and on sell cheap hosting from large specialist firms in the US and other countries.

We live in a global economy that has benefited massively from an international trade in goods and services. If our “Candidate X” drives a car that was manufactured overseas, does this also make him a hypocrite?
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September 13, 2013 11:53pm
wreck1080

alll of them?
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September 14, 2013 12:07am
itstricky

A question: Which blogger is getting desperate?

Mind you, you should live by your own word, one would think.
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September 14, 2013 12:14am
tas

Grant Robertson:
grantrobertson.co.nz Registered through an Australian company and hosted by a US company in San Francisco, CA.

David Cunliffe:
cunliffe.co.nz Registered through an Australian company and hosted in Boston, MA.

Shane Jones:
Doesn’t appear to have a campaign page.

The only question is which ones have made nationalistic procurement promises?
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September 14, 2013 5:38am
tas

Kiwiblog is registered and hosted in NZ.
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September 14, 2013 5:42am
tas

I don’t care where you host your website. But if you go around demanding that other people (i.e. the taxpayer/govt) be required to buy in NZ, then you should do the same.
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September 14, 2013 5:53am
Black with a Vengeance

What a great case for getting Kim Sitcom to set up a secure server farm here in NZ and host all our own stuff!
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September 14, 2013 8:58am
georgedarroch

I’m sure its the same one whose underwear is made in China.
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September 14, 2013 10:34am
Ian McK

Liars, perverts, hypocrites, leeches, losers; how many more adjectives could one conjure up to depict these three pieces of s..t!
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September 14, 2013 12:14pm
itstricky

Dire, nasty, boring, targetted, gothic, somber, cynical, gloomy; how many more adjectives could one conjure up to depict each of your 129 comments, Ian McK?
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