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Judith

@ laworder

That is great, baby steps, but is in the right direction, the rest will come.
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August 28, 2013 12:51pm
Weihana

Fletch (4,706) Says:
August 28th, 2013 at 12:21 pm

OBAMA: The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.

And yet history from WWII onwards would suggest otherwise. 🙂
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August 28, 2013 12:53pm
laworder

Longknives wrote

Concurrent’ sentencing is a fucking joke.
Why only do one rape when you will get the same penalty if you commit five?

Quite so, someone who commits only one rape could hardly be called “better” but the 5x rapist does constitute a far greater threat to public safety

Here is the Herald article on the passing of the Bail Act which gives further detail
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11115652

Regards
Peter J
http://www.sst.org.nz
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August 28, 2013 12:54pm
Andrei

Putin Orders Massive Strike Against Saudi Arabia If West Attacks Syria

ROFLMAO – where do people come up with these insane ideas.

How the hell could Russia launch a massive strike against Saudi Arabia when it has zero troops in the ME, zero airbases in the ME and no naval presence there and any air strikes launched from Russia itself would have to overfly Turkey, a member of Nato well set up to intercept anything coming into its terrirory from Russia if it wants.
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August 28, 2013 12:56pm
Ashley Schaeffer

What is in it for the yanks if they bomb Syria?
I already know Kea’s answer “its the jews! the jews!”

What’s in it for the Israelis? Assad may be unsympathetic to Israel, but the alternative would be outright hostile.

My money’s on the Saudis.
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August 28, 2013 1:01pm
liarbors a joke

I sometimes wonder about us so called humans..

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/9096823/Boy-6-has-eyes-gouged-out
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August 28, 2013 1:02pm
Weihana

laworder (233) Says:
August 28th, 2013 at 12:54 pm

Quite so, someone who commits only one rape could hardly be called “better” but the 5x rapist does constitute a far greater threat to public safety

I think both constitute a great threat. For certain acts (murder, rape etc.) a threshold has been crossed which I don’t think adds up in a linear fashion if you continue to commit those acts. Once is enough to define the character of the person who does it.

Sentencing has to make sense. It should reflect the gravity of the offending taken as a whole, not some sort of prescriptive approach arbitrarily defined by the number of offenses. The real problem that exists is that people are not satisfied with the length of sentencing for what most consider very serious crimes (e.g. punching a baby).
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August 28, 2013 1:04pm
OneTrack

“Is someone who rapes only once, five times better than someone who rapes five times? Not sure it adds up like that. ”

I think the four people who didn’t get raped in the first scenario might just disagree with you. But good to see you support bulk discounting though.
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August 28, 2013 1:05pm
duggledog

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11115378

‘Dreams of bidding for a do-up slips away from buyer’

Key content in the article:

‘The 42-year-old from West Auckland said it would just be unrealistic to save to meet the new loan requirements’

You do get kind of desperate, to be honest. I’m a pretty chilled out dude, but you want a place you can call your own and you’re running out of time really, really fast.”

Mr Rathgen, who works for Lion Breweries, spent a lot of his life travelling but after settling back in New Zealand he decided it was time to save for a house’

I’ll translate: Low skilled Westie who has spent his life and any money he might have had away travelling surprised to be somewhere other than the bottom of the ladder and can’t afford to buy a house’

Bro if you’re reading this, you’re not running out of time, you’ve missed the boat entirely, it’s too late. Bethell’s – anywhere above Taupo is out of your league. Get thee to Invercargill!
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August 28, 2013 1:09pm
Weihana

OneTrack (780) Says:
August 28th, 2013 at 1:05 pm

I think the four people who didn’t get raped in the first scenario might just disagree with you. But good to see you support bulk discounting though.

No, what I don’t support is treating crime as some sort of commodity that has a purchase price in terms of jail time.
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August 28, 2013 1:12pm
Andrei

What is in it for the yanks if they bomb Syria?

They remove (the small) Russian Navy Mediterranean Fleet, which is replenished in Tartus, from the Mediterranean. Basically NATO can confine Russian naval presence in the region to the Black Sea
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August 28, 2013 1:12pm
dime

“They remove (the small) Russian Navy Mediterranean Fleet, which is replenished in Tartus, from the Mediterranean. Basically NATO can confine Russian naval presence in the region to the Black Sea”

is that a forgone conclusion though? a new regime would just welcome them back?
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August 28, 2013 1:16pm
wikiriwhis business

Ohio Attorney General: State secretly uploaded all drivers license photos into police facial recognition database

At a press conference today, Attorney General Mike DeWine informed Ohio citizens that a powerful facial recognition system with access to driver’s licenses photographs and mug shots went live on June 2.

This is what photo licences were designed for. Databases. The GCSB bill verifies this

http://www.sott.net/article/265538-Ohio-Attorney-General-State-secretly-uploaded-all-drivers-license-photos-into-police-facial-recognition-database
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August 28, 2013 1:37pm
publicwatchdog

Am I to take it that 63 ‘Kiwibloggers’ don’t support MPs themselves following the RULE OF LAW?

Or do these 63 ‘Kiwibloggers’ agree with this DAFt LUNATIC Unitary Auckland Plan, based upon the urban myth and legend that there are going to be 1 million more people in Auckland in the next 30 years?

To which FACTS do you 63 ‘Kiwibloggers’ particularly take offence?

At least I do my homework, ‘seek truth from facts’ and actually try to get something done, when I uncover ‘bollocks’ at the highest levels?

Or are you 63 ‘Kiwibloggers’ actually closet Len Brown /Auckland Council supporters?

(More likely just silly people who ‘cut off their noses to spite their faces’? – as it were 😉

Kind regards

‘Her Warship’

Penny Bright

The corporate NIGHTMARE? 😉

http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz
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August 28, 2013 1:57pm
graham

To which FACTS do you 63 ‘Kiwibloggers’ particularly take offence?

I’m not one of the 63, and I don’t speak for others, but I take offence at your hypocrisy.
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August 28, 2013 2:05pm
b1gdaddynz

I feel a little bit ill…I just agreed with an amendment that Trevor Mallard proposed to the Animal Protection Act. I felt strongly enough that I sent Nathan Guy an email through the link on Labour’s website! Just feels wrong but it is for the right reasons so that ok right? I did un-tick the box agreeing to be spammed by Labour though and I did alter the wording to state that “it pains me to agree with anything Trevor Mallard proposes”! The issue is testing legal highs on animals which I think is completely wrong and I can’t see the logic given that people have been willing to test this stuff on themselves for the last 10 years or more and happily pay for the privilege!
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August 28, 2013 2:16pm
Dazzaman

64 kiwiblogger’s don’t like your long as shit posts about your own personal hobby horses…..we ain’t all from Auckland.
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August 28, 2013 2:20pm
Nookin

64 thumbs down. That’s a record!!
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August 28, 2013 2:30pm
wikiriwhis business

A Sheep No More
Fukushima in freefall: radioactive water filters taken offline, Tepco in desperation as leaks just won’t stop

by: Mike Adams

After a 29-month cover-up, the Tokyo Electric Power Co (Tepco) is now calling for international help and has all but admitted Fukushima’s radiation leaks are spiraling out of control. In addition to the leaking water storage units that are unleashing hundreds of tons of radioactive water each day, Tepco now says 50% of its contaminated water filtration capability has been taken offline due to corrosion.

The result is that radiation leaks are escalating out of control and attempted remediation efforts are faltering. This is in addition to the fact the Japanese government’s attempted brainwashing propaganda campaign has also been exposed. It attempted to convince people that if they drank beer or smiled, they would be immune to radiation poisoning. (Yes, this is how desperate they’ve become…)

Continue reading here: http://www.asheepnomore.net/2013/08/fukushima-in-freefall-radioactive-water.html
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August 28, 2013 2:37pm
Dazzaman

Kea
mandk, beats me why the biggest Jewish nation outside of Israel would want to stuff up a neighbouring country unsympathetic to Israel.

I have no idea why they would want to do that !

The Israelis would content themselves with the devil they know rather than the devil they don’t…..

The Americans? They have a shit for brains president who is also badly advised. Any past president would clandestinely, or not, give a shitload of weaponry/expertise, etc. to Israel, say a lot of platitudes which really mean nothing, sit back & enjoy the show. If the yanks had any sense they’d just let it reach its conclusion of an Assad victory & hidden cruel reprisals.

The lions share of Jews in America, being the leftist fuckwits they are, are probably squeamish at any US involvement there…..I’m sure they’re not twisting Obammy’s nuts to get in there.
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August 28, 2013 2:39pm
wikiriwhis business

‘The corporate NIGHTMARE?’

They understand The corporate NIGHTMARE because they are The corporate NIGHTMARE
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August 28, 2013 2:40pm
TheContrarian

wikiriwhis business

Mike Adams is a lying shill who peddles bullshit for a trade.
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August 28, 2013 3:00pm
Colville

Just popped in to see how Ms Dims comment was doing from first thing this morning..66 thumbs down 🙂 LOL I have never seen the like, outstanding.
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August 28, 2013 3:09pm
TheContrarian

And this is complete crap:

“This is in addition to the fact the Japanese government’s attempted brainwashing propaganda campaign has also been exposed. It attempted to convince people that if they drank beer or smiled, they would be immune to radiation poisoning. (Yes, this is how desperate they’ve become…)”

Dr “Brainwasher” as he has been called gave a series of lectures which were quite rightly bizarre but he did them on his own accord and not on the behest of the government.

You shouldn’t read Mike Adams, he is an inveterate liar and shill.
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August 28, 2013 3:11pm
nickb

I am not normally one for censorship. However, it warms my heart to see the overwhelming opposition to the crazy cat lady on this blog.

Here’s to many more filtered comments.
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August 28, 2013 3:11pm
UglyTruth

Am I to take it that 63 ‘Kiwibloggers’ don’t support MPs themselves following the RULE OF LAW?

Penny, the can’t follow it when they don’t know what it is.

“What is at stake is more than one small country; it is a big idea: a new world order, where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind — peace and security, freedom, and the rule of law.” ~ George Bush, 29 January 1991

http://www.actsinjunction.info/nwo.html

rule of law:
A legal principle, of general application, sanctioned by the recognition of authorities, and usually expressed in the form of a maxim or logical proposition. Called a “rule,” because in doubtful or unforeseen cases it is a guide or norm for their decision. The rule of law, sometimes called “the supremacy of law”, provides that decisions should be made by the application of known principles or laws without the intervention of discretion in their application. See e.g. Rule against perpetuities, supra; also, Shelley’s Case, Rule in. (Black’s 5th (1979))

http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/bouvier/maxims.shtml
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August 28, 2013 3:22pm
edhunter

Interesting that the defences version of events hasn’t rated a mention here today, when yesterday there was a dedicated post & 41 comments on the prosecutions version :
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9097466/Iridologist-claims-client-was-obsessive

Paints a very different picture from yesterdays version of events, but I doubt we’ll ever know the eventual outcome because the life of a blog reader is one of instant outrage, post response then move on to the next thing that outrages us.
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August 28, 2013 3:29pm
nickb

Jeezus Ugly you and catlady would go perfectly together.
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August 28, 2013 3:30pm
UglyTruth

Stereotyping people can be hazardous to your mental health, nickb.
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August 28, 2013 3:53pm
UglyTruth

What is in it for the yanks if they bomb Syria?

The same as when they bombed Iraq for nonexistent WMDs?

http://www.salon.com/2007/10/12/wesley_clark/

“‘Oh, it’s worse than that,’ he said, holding up a memo on his desk. ‘Here’s the paper from the Office of the Secretary of Defense [then Donald Rumsfeld] outlining the strategy. We’re going to take out seven countries in five years.’ And he named them, starting with Iraq and Syria and ending with Iran.”
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August 28, 2013 4:11pm
TheContrarian

“The same as when they bombed Iraq for nonexistent WMDs?”

Syria has almost no oil and the US government has never pushed for international action in Syria, unlike Iraq where they pushed for it in the days after 9/11.
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August 28, 2013 4:13pm
UglyTruth

US intervention in the middle east isn’t about oil, it is about regional domination. The US push for international action in Syria is via terrorist proxies and people like Bassma Kodmani and Radwan Ziadeh.

The Guardian has a good piece on these “Syrian opposition” figures.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jul/12/syrian-opposition-doing-the-talking
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August 28, 2013 4:33pm
Longknives

On the positive side Penny you got more votes here than you did at your last electoral campaign!
(Did you coin ‘Her Warship’ yourself? I don’t think it’s going to stick unfortunately…)
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August 28, 2013 4:37pm
TheContrarian

The problem with conspiracy people like yourself Ugly is that you have created a problem that can never be solved. Everything (fluoride, Boston Bombings, 9/11, Chemtrails – you name it) just adds another layer to the conspiracy. No disproof is accepted and is considered to be more lies by…whomever. It is lie upon lie and a refusal to accept more rational explanations in favour of grand conspiracy of lies.

Which is why even if and when you are right, no one will ever give you any credibility.

You have built an intractable little world that you cannot ever escape.
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August 28, 2013 4:44pm
leftyliberal

@edhunter: Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.
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August 28, 2013 4:45pm
Andrei

The world sure is a messed up place, actually I think the West has totally lost the plot
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August 28, 2013 4:48pm
stigie

Just having a look at GD and saw Miss Dim with 70 down votes.

Is this a record or what folks ?
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August 28, 2013 4:52pm
Nookin

Longknives

You don’t think so? I beg to differ. HMS Penelope was a light cruiser in the Second World War. She had a very checkered career including running aground and having her ballasts flooded on one of her early voyages. She was bombed and shelled so many times that they called her HMS Pepperpot – they plugged all her holes with large wooden pegs – but her main claim to fame was the fact that she was the only vessel torpedoed while at top speed. Very much like our Penny. A battered, bloated old clanger barrelling headlong into disaster, destruction and, ultimately, oblivion.
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August 28, 2013 4:54pm
joana

Syria…the beginning of World War three.
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August 28, 2013 4:57pm
SPC

Ugly Truth, how is todays Iraq to be part of a region dominated by the USA – it is a Shia majority government with closer ties to Iran than the USA. The oil contracts did not go to American companies etc.

As for the PNAC programme, the current President opposed the intervention in Iraq.
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August 28, 2013 5:02pm
bereal

What is the real deal with a couple of lawyers who regularly post on this site ?

They claim that they are hard done by because they don’t get paid enough for
legal aid cases.

One even claims that he doesn’t take appeal cases because they do not pay enough.
(This flea claims he cannot remember saying that and challenges me to give him
chapter and verse of when he posted that so he can check the ‘context’ FFS)

One lawyer ( not a poster here ) Charl Hirschfeld, pocketed 3.1 million dollars in
legal aid fees in 2010.

Charl made submissions on behalf of Davina Murray in the recent case where she was
convicted of supplying the love of her life, rapist and murderer Liam Reid with contraband.
Convicted despite the help of struck off and bankrupt lawyer Barry Hart
Birds of a feather and all that.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11115178

Lawyers. Some are good people.
Most of them couldn’t lie straight in bed.

Anything to say, nickb or FE ?
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August 28, 2013 5:06pm
dime

bereal – why is it up to nickb or fe to defend that woman? we dont ask you to comment on every town drunk that breaks the law
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August 28, 2013 5:14pm
SPC

The major problem with American regime change conspiracy theory (and the PNAC programme as they now realise) is that democratic regime change results in popular government – and the Americans have a problem with populist government in the region.
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August 28, 2013 5:40pm
Viking2

More important stuff. for a moment.

Scuttled by their own Govt. and its need to make headlines.

The Ministry of Primary Industries has revealed the bacteria discovered in Fonterra products earlier this month was never capable of causing botulism.

Fresh tests show the bacteria discovered was not clostridium botulinum, but clostridium sporogenes which can cause food to spoil. Clostridium sporogenes is not considered a food safety risk.

“When MPI received information from Fonterra on 2 August that it had detected clostridium botulinum in some of its products, I immediately adopted a precautionary approach to protect consumers both here and overseas,” MPI acting director-general Scott Gallacher said today.

yeh yeh yeh. Fucking drama queens. Helen isn’t there any more.

So is someone going to apologise to

Garry Romano, the executive who uncomfortably fronted Fonterra’s response to the scare, quit the company shortly after it emerged.

Two other staff have been placed on leave, a fact Fonterra released shortly after the recent earthquake in Wellington.

Unlikeley.
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August 28, 2013 5:40pm
Fletch

The media has much to answer for in their reporting on Syria. It’s all one sided: eg, it’s the fault of the Syrian regime.
No mention of the stories or reports (some coming from U.N inspectors) that the rebels have chemical weapons.
As posted earlier in the thread, even one of the former rebels tweeted that he knows they had chemicals.

If there is a war (or God forbid, a world war) the media will be partly to blame. It’s their job to investigate and tell it like it is, not parrot things they have heard from Obama and co.
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August 28, 2013 5:43pm
Viking2

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/dairy/9097910/Contaminated-whey-protein-traced
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August 28, 2013 5:43pm
nickb

One even claims that he doesn’t take appeal cases because they do not pay enough.

If Sacha Beacham came knocking on my door for some pro bono advice, I would be in there…giggity

Davina Murray.. not so much
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August 28, 2013 5:48pm
SPC

Fletch, there is already a war in Syria, and already intervention in it by outside parties.

The news story is the American red line – they would intervene if the regime used chemical weapons.

The international issue is whether the UN can act multi-laterally to provide an alternative option to the US acting alone.

US – a missile strike against known regime chemical weapons locations
UN – call for Syria and the rebels to hand over their chemical weapons.
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August 28, 2013 5:50pm
RRM

Ti hei mauri ora! 😛

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/wairarapa-times-age/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503414&objectid=11115300

Maori woman randomly walks up and punches and threatens to cut the throat of a 7-year-old boy out walking with his family.

Because she “hates white children”

But she was mentally unwell at the time so only a suspended sentence.

Will the race relations conciliator get involved?

Will this become a national news incident?

Or is racism something that only white people do?
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August 28, 2013 5:59pm
UglyTruth

The problem with conspiracy people like yourself Ugly is that you have created a problem that can never be solved.

Not my problem, Contrarian.
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August 28, 2013 6:05pm
bereal

dime misses the point. @ 5.14 (big suprise)

i will spell it out for dime.

Pay attention dime…i will educate dime.

nickb and FE whine that there is not enough money in legal aid cases.

FE even declines to persue appeals for his legal aid clients because he feels there is
not enough money from the state to make it worth his while.

But one Auckland lawyer, Charl Hirschfeld , was paid over 3 million bucks for
legal aid cases in one year. (Charl must have sumsing that nickb and FE lack)

Charl gave evidence for Davina Murray…….just saying…

No one is asking your mate nickb or FE to defend Davina Murray.
dime missed that point. dime missunderstood. dime should pay attention.

i am just saying that birds of a feather flock together.

Charl H went to bat for Davina Murray, a disgrace of a lawyer ( soon to be struck off
and join her mentor, now in the wind, Baz Hart.)

Many decent lawyers cringe re the above. But some do not. Some like your mate nicky.

Nickb and FE on the other hand use it as a lever to agitate to be paid
even more for legal aid.
This is when the term fleas comes in.

Can dime get it now ?

i could draw dime a picture if dime can’t comprehende,
i could even colour it in for dime.
(need it coloured in dime ?)
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August 28, 2013 6:21pm
dime

“i could even colour it in for dime.”

reckon you could stay within the lines at this time of night?

maybe if you coloured it during that 30 min sweet spot you have every day between being badly hung and fall down drunk
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August 28, 2013 6:38pm
Fletch

The news story is the American red line – they would intervene if the regime used chemical weapons.

That’s just it. There is no proof that they did. It is more likely the rebels used them.
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August 28, 2013 6:46pm
bereal

dimes response was fukin pathetic.

dime is incapable of addressing the issue.

dime attacks the messenger and avoids the issue.

Jeez, is that the best dime has , just laughable ?

Does dime care to make a real response ?

What about dimes mates nickb or FE ?

Where are dimes admiriati when dime needs them ?
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August 28, 2013 6:47pm
nickb

Nickb and FE on the other hand use it as a lever to agitate to be paid

I haven’t done a day of legal aid work in my life beryl and never will. I would rather charge clients $500/hour for posting on kiwiblog than charging the govt $100/hour 🙂

However, I am willing to make an exception if you get caught for public masturbation again. Drop me a line.
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August 28, 2013 6:50pm
bereal

Ok i get it now.
dimes admiriati just lurk in the background and give dime a thumbs up for just posting
any silly shit at all.

Is dime up to arguing his point ?

Get real.
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August 28, 2013 6:53pm
Colville

bereal @ 6.21.

To copy those over at the Stranded, got a link for the $3 mil in fees?
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August 28, 2013 6:56pm
bereal

Now there we have a true wanker for all to see.

Little nickb.
How does a silly young prig dream that he gets paid 500 bucks an hour
as a lawyer when he is incapable of even arguing a point on a blog.

This pathetic prat reaches his level talking about masturbation or eating shit.

And this silly fool claims to be a lawyer ?

Would you employ this idiot ?
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August 28, 2013 7:00pm
SPC

Fletch, how did the rebels get to fire the shells from 4th Army positions?

The circumstantial evidence is the regime did it, so they are the more likely party.

The question is evidence of how they were fired, with what and connection to 4th Army stocks and weaponry.
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August 28, 2013 7:02pm
bereal

Colville
does this do it for you ?

http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/lawyer-quits-legal-aid-work-bills-probed-4007988
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August 28, 2013 7:04pm
Colville

Na berael it dont. How many staff did he have working for him?
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August 28, 2013 7:11pm
bereal

Idiot.
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August 28, 2013 7:14pm
RRM

Re-read your last half dozen or so posts bereal? You’re doing yourself no favours.
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August 28, 2013 7:15pm
nickb

How many staff did he have working for him?

Finally… thank you Colville. That could be paying the wages of senior lawyers, junior lawyers, secretaries, PAs, disbursements, rent, insurance, office expenses and god knows what else. Running a law firm is ridiculously expensive and hourly rates in no way equate to an “in the hand” amount. And it doesn’t for any profession.

Nice financial nous shown there however beryl. Would you say Mediaworks is a corporate cash cow because it turns over $500m?
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August 28, 2013 7:16pm
Viking2

Global Warming hah?

A rare snow falls in Atacama desert of Chile

A RARE snowfall in Chile’s Atacama desert has delighted visitors to one of the world’s driest areas.

Residents of San Pedro de Atacama say the weekend snow was the heaviest in three decades for the desert city, which is 1200 kilometres north of the capital, Santiago.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/travel/holiday-ideas/a-rare-snow-falls-in-atacama-desert-of-chile/story-fnihr4pm-1226705472153
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August 28, 2013 7:18pm
bereal

nickb

by the same token,

“why is a mouse if it spins ?”

“what is the difference between a duck ?’

‘how long is a piece of string ?”

You really are just an idiot mate.

A lawyer ? Get real.
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August 28, 2013 7:23pm
Viking2

A new meaning to Yoga eating.

http://screencast.com/t/rnLCTV8V0ye

😆 😆 😯
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August 28, 2013 7:31pm
Viking2

Where’s johnboy.

Has he been naughty and got locked up?
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August 28, 2013 7:32pm
F E Smith

FE even declines to persue appeals for his legal aid clients

That is untrue. I have never, ever, declined to take an appeal because the client was legally aided. I have bitched about it privately, but I have never, ever refused to take the case.

If you are going to attack Nick and myself, please try sticking to the truth.

And, as Nick pointed out, your attacks on him are completely unfair because he has never done legally aided work.
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August 28, 2013 7:36pm
F E Smith

How does a silly young prig dream that he gets paid 500 bucks an hour as a lawyer

Gee, you are dense, beryl. Nick doesn’t get paid $500 an hour as a lawyer (and if he does, then I want his job!). That might be the rate that his employer charges for his services as a lawyer, but it won’t be what he is getting paid.

There is a very large difference between the charge-out rate of any lawyer and what their actual salary is.
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August 28, 2013 7:41pm
RRM

I heard recipients of legal aid have to repay every nickel & dime of it?

People keep talking about legal aid recipients like they are a worse kind of leper than DPB mums… 😕
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August 28, 2013 7:42pm
F E Smith

I heard recipients of legal aid have to repay every nickel & dime of it?

Not all of them, at least on Criminal Legal Aid, although a fair few are told that they are supposed to. I think that there is more of that with Family, but I have never done Family Legal Aid so I am not the one to ask. If GPT happens along then he would be one to know as he does Family stuff.
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August 28, 2013 7:48pm
nasska

Just in case Water Woman or Gareth Morgan are running short. 🙂

Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/yhi2p7zxu73szhi/cat%201.jpg
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August 28, 2013 7:55pm
Pauleastbay

bereal

Not that I am prone to lecture but I know a lot about being a drunk. It don’t make you as sharp as you think you are after a few snorts and funnily enough one thing all drunks have in common apart from being a drunk is they are boring , really fucking boring
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August 28, 2013 8:03pm
nasska

1 jar of Vaseline:$3, 1 box condoms:$12, 3 gay porn magazines:$11…..

….. making your parents think your brother is gay: PRICELESS.
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August 28, 2013 8:03pm
nickb

Only a prog like you would post a joke like that, narsekissa 🙂
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August 28, 2013 8:09pm
nasska

Bugger! I’ve been rumbled. 🙂
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August 28, 2013 8:13pm
nickb

Watching some youtube of David Cunliffe (laugh at me all you want) and is it just me or is Rachel Smalley the worst interviewer in the history of the universe? Thank god she has been elbowed out. I am finding myself cheering for DC.

RS: Should the rich pay more tax?

DC: More than what?

RS: More than they are now.

lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXRjENkycNg
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August 28, 2013 8:16pm
liarbors a joke

“Maori woman randomly walks up and punches and threatens to cut the throat of a 7-year-old boy out walking with his family.”

I dislike blacks but I dont go around punching them in the throat…n-u-t-t-e-r…
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August 28, 2013 9:00pm
Reid

The circumstantial evidence is the regime did it, so they are the more likely party.

People who think that remind me of this person

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjmjqlOPd6A

Der.

Listen to this guy, if you want some perspective on this.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2567331/us-and-its-allies-are-moving-closer-to-a-military-strike

Seriously though, I despair. WTF is wrong with people that they haven’t been able to read this regime-change operation for what it always has been ever since it started? WTF is wrong with people that they keep letting themselves get played like violins? Allow the media to run over their common-sense time and time and time again? WTF is wrong with them?
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August 28, 2013 9:04pm
Left Right and Centre

KB GD cooking section- forming happy chefs since 2013-

Pancakes– easy and delicious-

I added golden syrup, lemon juice and butter on top…. oh yeah!!

I’ve been waiting for the right time and mood to try making pancakes since my baking renaissance… and just as I suspected… perfect pancakes with lemon being squeezed onto them made me jump up and down like a very happy excited little child.

I’ve got some childhood memories of pancakes not being that great. Not these puppies. They are made out of love and comfort. Must be what walking into the light feels like. Ok.. maybe not that good.
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August 28, 2013 9:38pm
bereal

Oi !

(posted just to see how many thumbs down it can attract.)
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August 28, 2013 10:21pm
Left Right and Centre

I’m watching Back Benches…

Grant Robertson says ‘it’s time for a leader born in the 1970’s’. I’m thinking…. huh? 1970s?

And then look him up… 1971…. fucking hell… look at the man. Another fat-necked slob MP. He looks mid-fifties. To think he’s not much older than me… .disgusting. He’s a knob. Look at that horrible neck flab. What a dork.
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