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August 25, 2013 8:00am by Kokila Patel

General Debate 25 August 2013

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Lucia Maria

Kea,

Re your 8:28pm. She’s blaming NATO, America and Israel for what’s happening with the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria. I can understand America and NATO as they appear to have a Manchurian Candidate in charge, but it makes no sense for Israel to be supporting an Islamic fundamentalist overthrow of an apparently secular government.
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August 25, 2013 8:58pm
bhudson

PEB,

Likewise on that YouTube list. I consider that a badge of honour.
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August 25, 2013 8:59pm
bereal

bhudson @ 8.51

Good one, how come it took you so long to post sumsing that made sense ?.

Hendrix “Star Spangled Banner’ at Woodstock in light of Vietnam is a brilliant classic.
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August 25, 2013 9:00pm
Griff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QMIHCMIAvs
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August 25, 2013 9:24pm
bereal

And Griff

‘Personal Jesus’ the origional, by DM is an uplifting, positive song.

The Johnny Cash version turned it into a sad dirge in my opinion.
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August 25, 2013 9:27pm
Kea

it makes no sense for Israel to be supporting an Islamic fundamentalist overthrow of an apparently secular government.

Lucy, I have considered that myself, along with the bizarre spectacle of the US supporting the Muslim Brotherhood. I really do not know the answer. But I suspect Israel wants to see Syria and the surrounding Muslim countries weakened. The US would not be doing this without the approval of Israel. The US is fighting proxy wars for Israel.
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August 25, 2013 9:31pm
Griff

Totally agree that’s why I like the emotion the man in black adds to the song. Cash changes it from uplifting new wave pop song to a reliquary for himself in a very powerful yet humble way.
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August 25, 2013 9:32pm
cha

Humour bypass… or something..fucking morons.

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/08/24/20153441-humor-failure-in-russia-crackdown-on-pastafarians-shows-kremlin-church-ties?lite
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August 25, 2013 9:41pm
cha

For the Cash fans.

http://youtu.be/CrHEmaxqDuo
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August 25, 2013 9:46pm
Kea

A very young Bob Dylan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecwX0emXQE0
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August 25, 2013 9:53pm
Griff

Cash@2:20
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See trains can fly.
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August 25, 2013 10:01pm
Lucia Maria

Kea,

Supporting the Muslim Brotherhood is not weakening the surrounding Muslim countries – it’s like lighting the fuse and waiting for the subsequent explosion. If you’re in the zone, no way would you be wanting to set something like that off. So again, it makes absolutely no sense for Israel to be behind all this, unless they were stark raving mad and suicidal as well.
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August 25, 2013 10:41pm
Dirty Rat

Top 10 ?

I love this shit

in no particluar order

London Calling – The Clash
The River – Bruce Springsteen
Funhouse – The Stooges
In This Light and on this Evening – The Editors
Interpol – Interpol
The Pretenders – The Pretenders
The Stones Roses – The Stone Roses
George Best – The Wedding Present
Entertaining Friends – Buzzcocks
Parklife – Blur
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August 25, 2013 10:41pm
Dirty Rat

Pauleastbay (4,088) Says:
August 25th, 2013 at 12:33 pm
bc

Just started listening to The Smiths again after years of being put off by the not most uplifting lyrics going around.

Reading a book at the moment ” Black Vinyl, White Powder by Simon Napier- Bell. He says Morrissey was a strange strange dude until he went on stage and just blew everyone away who thought the band had no future.

I saw Mozz last year, superb showman, great delivery and I walked away with my gob wide open going “oh wow”

Thats the mark of a good concert or any form of entertainment
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August 25, 2013 10:47pm
Longknives

Morrissey is a twat!

http://www.nme.com/news/new-order/47797
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August 26, 2013 5:21am
Longknives

And for me old mate Bereal-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPWdCvwqQI0

One of the great live performances…(and check out all the hot 70s bikini-girls in the crowd!)
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August 26, 2013 5:25am
Pete George

No politics this morning, sport rules. Still enjoying the satisfaction of having the shield, I went to the stadium yesterday to see it in Otago hands for the first time for me.

An absorbing end to the Ashes.

And a blistering start to the final round of the Canadian open by Lydia Ko, 4 under after six holes, three shots clear in the lead.
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August 26, 2013 6:35am
Viking2

“Not as good as he has been, harder to trust him than it was. He doesn’t appear as genuine as he once was.”

WHO?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9085347/John-Keys-believability-low

We may trust the prime minister, but we don’t necessarily believe him.

A majority of New Zealanders do not fully believe what John Key says, despite rating him as a strong and effective leader whom they trust to run the country, the latest Fairfax Media-Ipsos poll testing voters’ attitude to our political leaders shows.

Asked if they fully believed what Key said, 58.6 per cent said no and just 23.5 per cent yes.

yep
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August 26, 2013 7:05am

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