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kowtow

kea keeps going on about biblical time atrocities 2,3,4 thousand years ago.

Yet in his cradle of civilisation Iraq,Syria NOW we have atrocities. Arab Muslim ones.And the left want hordes of these people to come and multiculturalise us ignorant whiteys.

Look at the Religion of Peace at work today.
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August 22, 2013 4:59pm
bereal

Some people are just plain silly. Take Kea for example.

Think of Kea and Neville Chamberlain as peas in a pod.
Myopic do gooders, but no worldly understanding.

Contrast Chamberlain with with a pragmatic, worldly, Winston Churchill.

Churchill called bullshit on. ‘Peace in our time, with honour.’ from Chamberlain
and said, “Read his book.” (Mein Kampf by Adaolf Hitler.)

What sort of myopic fuckwits would give kowtow a thumbs down for his post @ 4.59 ?

Just plain silly fuckwits.
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August 22, 2013 7:38pm
Kea

kowtow

1. No I am discouraging people like you from using the bible as a reference for morality. Interestingly you label Gods work as “atrocities”. That is encouraging. Maybe you are developing real morals.

2. Iraq and Syria are where your violent cult came from. They still speak Aramaic in parts of Syria. They are the people of the book. Slag them off all you like, but please be honest.

3. The greatest atrocities happening now days, in those places, are caused by the Christian nation of the USA.
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August 22, 2013 7:48pm
nasska

Seems about right. 🙂

Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rao5txpewimk0ri/Atheist%203.gif
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August 22, 2013 7:52pm
Steve (North Shore)

Now with this GCAB (code) thing is it ok for people who comment here to use the natural cover?
You know, the **** people (troll) You wind them up and then watch, and then hit, then disappear.
Cheeky birds and stoners know this code
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August 22, 2013 7:56pm
nasska

Helen Clark dies and goes to hell. Satan meets her at the gate. “Welcome to hell!” he says, “let me show your punishment”. He takes Helen over to a pile of boulders at the bottom of a hill and says “your job is to push these up to the top of the hill for all eternity… now get started”.
She pushes the first rock up to the top and spots Hitler sitting at a desk writing. A little while later Satan comes back. “How’s it going?” he asks “Not too well actually” replies Helen, “how come I have to push endless rocks up a hill and all Hitler has to do is write?”
“Don’t worry about that” laughs Satan. “He’s translating The Communist Manifesto into Hebrew”.
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August 22, 2013 8:01pm
thedavincimode

beryl

It might be because I’m not pissed, in which case I apologise, but I have re-read the phoney Christian’s 4:59pm and for the life of me, I cannot find anything in it that is in the least logical. It would have made more sense if she had said: “I hate ragheads”. But she didn’t.
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August 22, 2013 8:44pm
thedavincimode

nasska

H Klerk will never die; at least not in your lifetime. Klerk’s legacy will be a cancer in this society for the next 50 years. Klerk’s greatest achievement will be to have a half-life greater than the strontium 90 at Fukoshima.
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August 22, 2013 8:48pm
Left Right and Centre

Wouldn’t all people like a pay rise just because they’re a woman?

Caregiver Kristine Bartlett believes her hourly wage of $14.46 is less than what would be paid to male employees with the same or similar skills.

“I don’t think people really acknowledge or recognise our work and the skills that we have for the pay rate we get – it’s just unfair,” she said.

“It’s exhausting, it’s demanding and unless somebody stands up and fights, they just will not do anything and recognise how hard it is. We do it because we love it.”

Bad luck. Low-skill job. Low pay. Get lost.

It’s got nothing to do with being a woman. I’ll tell you what else is exhausting for near minimum wage – unskilled labouring. Maybe Kristine would like to fill a wheelbarrow with shit and take it for a walk. Then whine about the definition of hard work and exhaustion. Or try moving furniture for fuck all an hour.

She’s been doing the same noddy job for 20 years. So what? What does that mean? Here – have $20 an hour because you can’t or won’t do anything else apart from one of the least skilled lines of work? Switch to an easier job mate if it’s ‘too hard’. Can’t be that hard if she’s stuck it out for 20 years on low pay.

I’d love to see her ‘hard day at work’. It’s babysitting elderly gaga retards mate.

Jobs aren’t the same. And it’s not called New Zeagrad. That’s just arbitrary… deciding that two different jobs are the same and should be paid the same. Taking away the free market principle. Ask yourself how long does it take to become a ‘qualified’ ‘home carer’? Is it three years? Nah. Three days probably. Who does she think she bloody is? You do a dumb dumb job you get paid SFA. It’s the same for blokes. Stacking shelves on the nightfill team? SFA wage. Oh, you’re a bloke? Here… have some more money. We’ll just pay you more than we have to. Yeah, right!!
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August 22, 2013 9:20pm
Kea

It would have made more sense if she had said: “I hate ragheads”. But she didn’t.

thedavincimode, I agree and it would be a lot more honest. It would also shut me up and I would not have to come out and defend the pricks against untruths and double standards. If someone claims to hate a particular race/religion/culture, I may not agree, but I will admire their honesty. kowtow can not bring herself to tell the truth.
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August 22, 2013 9:21pm
Kea

Left Right and Centre , I would agree that she is under paid, but your point is valid. Guys are often doing hard, dirty, dangerous jobs for their money. Just look at the number of males killed in the work place compared to women. Yet I don’t see women demanding equal death and maiming at work.
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August 22, 2013 9:24pm
Left Right and Centre

Kea 9:24 pm Yeah… well I’m sick of the endless brilliant new strategies to try and find non-existent gender paygap discrimination.

I’ll tell you something completely unrelated that I wish I hadn’t let happen and it slightly pissed me off. I’m at the Backbencher… at a table with the one and only DPF… and some boozed to buggery blowhard boofhead in a suit staggers over and his eyes bulge looking at the chocolate caramel slice I’d made for DPF, who had cut it down into smaller pieces. I don’t know who the fuck this dick is… and he’s slurring… he’s out on his feet… and he grabs a big arse piece of slice and starts shoving it in his face with as much style as a hungry dog. It’s a distasteful memory of that evening. I really wish that just hadn’t happened. I didn’t cook the thing just to let some drunk goon stick his nose in yet another trough. It wasn’t that late on a weeknight… 8pm-ish? Gave me an impression of the lifestyle of some of these people eh.

And he had a an older mate in a suit who actually wasn’t pissed.. but was clearly devoid of any contact with ‘the ordinaries’ such as myself. They had little black/ red badges which said NZ on them… I should’ve asked them if they were NZ First badges. They could’ve been there supporting another weirdo NZ First MP who had been on Back Benches earlier on. Don’t know.
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August 22, 2013 10:33pm
Kea

Left Right and Centre, well it must have looked great to attract the bar fly. You have to drop a few social norms for people when your out boozing.

I went for a run tonight. I am on the come-back, having reached an epic 92kg, and it ain’t all muscle 🙂
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August 22, 2013 10:39pm
Nostalgia-NZ

Lay an egg Kea, that’s what parrots do.
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August 22, 2013 10:44pm
Left Right and Centre

Kea 10:39 pm I thought it looked good. It’s not so much ‘people’ out boozing… most people there weren’t anything like hammered. It was the thought that it might be someone from a political party. You know how they come across as high and mighty about everything. So… there’s always one? Yeah, it is a pub… but still. Getting quite tipsy on a Weds night? It’s ok for some. It was more the thing of ‘seeing their world’ and how they live. These are the so-called ‘respectable’ people who talk about all the social harm caused by alcohol…. and then their social scene can be hypocritical. I would struggle to think of a time when I’ve ever been drinking on a weeknight mon-thurs in my life. It might never have happened. It’s just interesting when anyone in politics waxes lyrical about alcohol when within their own world some of them do all kinds of things that most nzders would raise an eyebrow at and wouldn’t want to do themselves.

I didn’t touch a drop. I also had a friend in Wilton to get back to – to share a piece of his half of the choc caramel slice recipe… and he offered me another beer… so I think my beer count in 2013 has increased from 2 to 5 bottles.

I think my thing with alcohol is like this: up to a few drinks is fine. When people start turning into mindless unappealing fucktards…. no. Getting wasted every now and then.. no problem. Every weekend? No… that’s weak.
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August 23, 2013 7:00pm
Left Right and Centre

Kea 10:39 pm I don’t want to come off as patronising- getting out there isn’t easy, so that’s good.

Single weight numbers don’t tell me a lot about someone’s weight. My low reading today was 80.9kg. I say low reading – of course it can drop further if outwards goods exceeds inwards after getting up but generally the lowest is when you get up. High reading might be 83kg at the end of a waking day. So what do I weigh? 81-83kg. No-one weighs any one single snapshot number. Would be near impossible to accurately measure body composition too.

So… 92kg could be 92-95kg or 89-92kg. No idea. I can’t even tell you what weight I should be *exactly*. I’ve got no fucking clue. I picked 80kg out of thin air. Good round number… sure sure. I might be better off at 83-85… who knows? So when you say you’re 8kg over or whatever… to me it’s a rough number. I’m thinking in terms of + or – weight ranges rather than fixed single snapshot numbers.

Ok – on the scales now? 83.4kg. Up from 80.9kg when I got up haha… at 4pm. What’s that… 2.5kg in tea and tomatoes!!

92 was a number I passed on the way to the 80s… in my mind I see a downward slope at 92. I was once quite happy to reach 92. Then 91. Then 90.

It’s one form of hell or another – whichever one you choose. I’d love love love love to bake myself lots of recipes and have a really good time eating them… and of course food cravings intensify if you keep your body on the downlow. It’s a bit of a prison sentence either way… especially if you don’t even get the upside of having a woman who might enjoy your hard work.
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August 23, 2013 7:19pm
Left Right and Centre

kea – I loved making chocolate caramel slice. First attempt wasn’t as good as the second. DPF got the second and much better attempt. Second attempt I went for the ‘two tin’ version. Recipes using condensed milk fall into either one or two tin categories. Caramel to chocolate to biscuit ratio was the stuff of my boyhood dreams. Without being insanely over the top. It stopped just short of getting funny looks. Two blocks of milk chocolate. I thought I’d just melt it and shove it on without trying to do any ‘cooking’ crap to it. Also used milk instead of dark. And shaved coconut topping. Oh yeah… and a seriously generous tightly packed layer of peanuts in the caramel. I didn’t weigh the tin but I weighed each half after eating the rough cut off edges myself – 1.8kg between them.

That’s the recipe I used or mostly followed… I bake by consensus and keep looking up the same recipe until I’m happy I’m getting a good version of it and good advice. Like the choc caramel slice – I decided that it’s not the real thing unless it’s got condensed milk, brown sugar, real chocolate, golden syrup and coconut in it. You’ll see a recipe that uses cocoa or cocoa powder or something… pffff… forget it.

Next idea is to play around with the size of the layers…. add hokey pokey… cut into chocolate bar size pieces… dip all sides in melted chocolate.

Hokey pokey is just stupidly easy to make. Golden syrup, sugar, baking soda. That’s it. I ate some last night – for such a simple and inexpensive thing, it gives off a hell of a lot of pleasure. Easy to make Crunchie bars… shape it, add thick toffee or caramel on top, dip sides in melted chocolate… you’ve got yourself a party.

[DPF: It was very good and much appreciated]
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August 23, 2013 7:41pm
nasska

Take it easy LR&C. 🙂

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August 23, 2013 7:46pm
Judith

I thought I’d wandered into the wrong site for a second or two.

Swapping recipes? I dread to think what has bought that on.
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August 23, 2013 7:51pm
Kea

Kea 10:39 pm I don’t want to come off as patronising- getting out there isn’t easy, so that’s good.

LRC, oh don’t worry about being patronising, I will be able to kick your arse real soon, especially if you keep baking chocolate caramel slices !

Your idea of a run is prancing gayly around the water front on flat paved surfaces. My idea of a run is striding up mountain sides and bounding through the forests in a very manly fashion. I bet you even run with an ipod tucked into your lycra pants you faggot 😉
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August 23, 2013 8:01pm
Left Right and Centre

nasska 7:46 pm hahahaha…… I haven’t had to worry about disappearing!!
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August 23, 2013 8:18pm
Left Right and Centre

Kea 8:01 pm You got the flat paved surfaces right. Very easy to roll your feet on shitty uneven surfaces. MP3 player was a gamechanger. Makes me run better and faster.

I’ve never worn lycra. Running shorts and a t shirt. Or no shirt. I ran 20kms from 5:30am thursday with no top. I wasn’t cold. The slice must’ve been good fuel… 1:31’31”, that’s about as fast as I ever want to run. Copious quantities of caffeine too. I’ve got to run tonight at some stage dammit. Blister bubbles both feet probably from my worn out running shoes. I had to take a needle to try and drain one of them… they tell you to leave them but it was huge and annoying. MP3 player is tucked into sweatband. Which are just a look. Only the first layer of socks get soaked in sweat in winter. Need sweatbands in summer, not winter. Can give yourself red marks from arms swinging too close to body with no top on.

It’s good fun running past people dressed up in coats and I’m running effectively naked.

My advice for weight control is crank out kms. Doesn’t matter how soft they are or how long it takes… although I set myself a 10km/h minimum pace… I’ve walked the damn run once when I was sick. If it’s easy as fuck… a person is more likely to do more. I’ve kept up 10kms a day on average because my time limit is realistic to include days when you suck or can’t be arsed. 2 700kms in 2013.
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August 23, 2013 8:37pm
nasska

….”I’m running effectively naked”….

A little too much information LR&C. This is a family blog. 🙂
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August 23, 2013 8:45pm
Kea

LRC, the reason you feel like you may roll your ankle is because you have not strengthened your supporting muscles. It is a self fulfilling prophecy. If I pounced around the water front [shirtless] wearing a sweet band and listening to music while perving at the girls, I too would have weak and delicate ankles.

Have you tried any of the barefoot, minimalist shoes ? I have a pair and find them great off road. Very good stability and feel, plus super light.
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August 23, 2013 9:17pm
Left Right and Centre

Kea 9:17 pm No, I really don’t think that’s it. I’d say my supporting muscles are just fine.

My right foot has a problem unrelated to running… it would often leave me limping a day of driving… and running used to make it squeak but now nothing. I haven’t limped from my right foot for ages and ages. I also do seated squats… I think that incoporates a fair few ‘supporting muscles’.

Mate – it’s just something less to have to worry about or bother thinking about. If you find yourself hitting almost 15km/h, then you tell me how much you want to have to think about tripping over or having any kind of foot placement issue. And at 12-13km/h I don’t want to have issues either.

I think in all of my running – I might’ve rolled a foot badly once ever and had to stop and walk. Other times the foot might roll without injury. That doesn’t happen often. Once I fell over in a heap because I tripped on a sawn-off sign pole on a roundabout. I was watching the road, not the sawn-off sign. The faster you go, the more your feet will want to play-up. I’m sure if you started hitting 12-13km/h for 10-20kms in a row on a regular basis you’d find the same thing.

I don’t think there’s anything weak about racking up 80kms a week this year. Cuz look up Tawa on google maps. There aint no fucking water.
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August 23, 2013 9:45pm
Left Right and Centre

Kea 9:17 pm ah yeah the shoes. Well first off I’ve never paid more than about $60 for a pair of running shoes.

And second- my shoes are worn down to a point where they don’t wear down further and are probably very similar in philosophy to the ‘no shoe’ shoes anyway.. ha. I wear two pairs of socks and think of it as wearing socks wrapped in thin rubber which is still better than going barefoot…. which I’ve also tried. Didn’t like it.
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August 23, 2013 9:50pm
Kea

LRC, You are right about the worn shoes, though you will still have a big drop between heel and forefoot. That means your heel will tend to hit before your forefoot. That is not how nature intended you to run.

I suggest you take your running to the next level by including some hill work. Stop prancing around the water front with your shirt off like a show pony and hit the hills. You will develop some real power and improve your peak capacity. Skipping along like a fairy will cause you to turn into a smug faggot and take up cycling. 🙂
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August 23, 2013 9:59pm
Left Right and Centre

Kea 9:59 pm Except that I’ve read all about heel-strike and foot-strike so I try to land mid-foot and less on the heel. There are no heels left on my shoes to land on ffs.

I like *running* not stair-climbing. To build the legs I’d rather do weights.

Come for a run with me and tell me how soft it is because it’s ‘flat’. Make it 20kms?
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August 23, 2013 10:14pm
Kea

LRC, yes you should do weights too. But you will notice a big difference after doing some hills. You will look even more fabulous when you effortlessly float past the heavy footed plodders while perving at the talent on the water front.
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August 23, 2013 10:17pm
Kea

“Come for a run with me and tell me how soft it is because it’s ‘flat’. Make it 20kms?”

I don’t have a head band so I would probably cramp your style 😉
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August 23, 2013 10:19pm
Left Right and Centre

Kea 10:19 pm hahahaha….. headband!! Never worn one. Beanie hat? Shit… I’ve still got to head out and do 10. Good weather for it. After TV runs out. Maybe 1am… hahahaha
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August 23, 2013 10:46pm
Kea

Need sweatbands in summer

So where the hell are these sweatbands if not on your head ? !!!
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August 23, 2013 10:53pm
Left Right and Centre

Kea 10:17 pm what is it with you and the waterfront? I’ve run 7 000kms+ since Nov 05 – and only twice have any of them been anywhere near any fucking water – and one of those was the Round The Bays run… I didn’t have much stinking choice.

There’s nothing to perve where I run. Very little. Maybe one hot chick every 300-500kms or so.
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August 23, 2013 11:00pm
Left Right and Centre

Kea 10:53 pm On each wrist genius. Wristband… is that better? Hahaha….. really?
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August 23, 2013 11:01pm
Kea

LRC, so you wear special aids to help manage your wrist sweat ? What a brilliant idea ! How many times have I been out running with sweat streaming into my eyes making them go red, my entire body soaked with sweat, and had the whole experience ruined by sweaty wrists. 🙂
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August 23, 2013 11:55pm
Colville

Otago won the sheild. First time in 56 years. Awesome that 🙂
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