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Kea

thedavincimode, ease off that booze or you will have Griff after you ! 🙂

Increased Ethanol Production Only Enhances Global Warming

http://www.science20.com/news_articles/increased_ethanol_production_only_enhances_global_warming
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August 21, 2013 6:27pm
thedavincimode

kea … I fahhrt inyor genril direcshun … hic!
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August 21, 2013 6:30pm
bereal

Jeez,
you pissheads need help.
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August 21, 2013 6:42pm
thedavincimode

woshup bewyl … hic!
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August 21, 2013 6:51pm
Griff

A new study in BioScience suggests that boosting use of maize-derived ethanol will increase greenhouse gas emissions and worsen the effects of climate change as a result.

The USA and its protected ethanol market.
Crony capitalism is the problem there kea not agw.
Its bullshit as are all the American agricultural subsidies.
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August 21, 2013 6:52pm
thedavincimode

bewyl .. I gayvua tick … hic!
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August 21, 2013 6:55pm
dime

no need to bully the town drunk. hes hilarious
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August 21, 2013 7:01pm
bereal

Good on you davinci, thanks.

Your not a bad bloke after all.
can’t remember the last time i said sumsing that sumwun
appreciated.

If i gave ticks i would give you a big thumbs up.
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August 21, 2013 7:02pm
thedavincimode

tukka time … nice fryup for me … hic!
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August 21, 2013 7:04pm
thedavincimode

… a liddle oilintha pan … hic!
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August 21, 2013 7:05pm
Griff

Beryl
So did I.

Alcohol and the damage it does.

http://www.ndp.govt.nz/moh.nsf/pagescm/7752/$File/alcohol-factsheets.pdf

Health impacts
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Alcohol consumption has been identified as an important risk factor for more than 60 different disorders
(WHO 2007).
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An estimated 3.8% of all global deaths and 4.6% of the global burden of disease (measured in disability-adjusted
life-years) are attributable to alcohol (Rehm et al 2009).
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In New Zealand, estimates indicate between 600 and 1000 people die each year from alcohol-related causes
(Berl 2009; Connor et al 2005).
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More than half of alcohol-related deaths are due to injuries, one-quarter to cancer and one-quarter to other
chronic diseases (Connor el et 2005).
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Between 18 and 35% of injury-based emergency department presentations are estimated to be alcohol-related,
rising to between 60 and 70% during the weekend (Jones et al 2009; Humphrey et al 2003).
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14% of the population are predicted to meet criteria for a substance use disorder at some time in their lives
(Wells et al 2007).
Crime and violence
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The New Zealand Police estimate that:
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approximately one-third of all Police apprehensions involve alcohol
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half of serious violent crimes are related to alcohol
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over 300 alcohol-related offences are committed every day
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August 21, 2013 7:07pm
thedavincimode

.. thashallrite bwely, my plesha .. hic!

fusk … sorry, “bewyl” … hic!

fuck … “fuck”

godda go; geback tatha stove … hic!
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August 21, 2013 7:10pm
Dave Mann

On the question of so-called ‘man made global warming’, lets consider this actual fact:

“In 2009, the CO2 global average concentration in Earth’s atmosphere was about 0.0387%” (Thank you Wikipedia)

I haven’t got a science degree, but I learned basic physics and chemistry at school (albeit many many years ago), and it defies commonsense (remember that old fashioned concept….. commonsense?) that minute changes in the proportions of an infinitesimal atmospheric gas would have ANY effect on a planet’s climate.

I don’t care how many pseudo-scientific institutions pretend to pay lip service to this ridiculous bullshit for the sake of their funding: its just not possible for any sane person to think that AGW is a reality.
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August 21, 2013 7:11pm
thedavincimode

… oops … hic!
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August 21, 2013 7:12pm
thedavincimode

… ahhh fusk … hic!

fuck, I mean “fuck” … hic!
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August 21, 2013 7:14pm
thedavincimode

… fire … hic!
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August 21, 2013 7:14pm
Snarkle

That’s good to hear, Dave Mann. Any other controversial statements you can’t believe are true? It would save the rest of us the bother of worrying about them.
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August 21, 2013 7:15pm
bereal

Griff.
“so did I” What ?

What did you do, poor old Griff ?
C’mon gerrit of your chest. You know you’ll feel better.
What r u on about ?

You smoke dope, i have the odd bevvy, each to his own.

What’s wrong with that ?
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August 21, 2013 7:17pm
thedavincimode

… no worries, I’ll juz pour this water onit … hic!

… bumma … tha was nice bacn too … hic!
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August 21, 2013 7:20pm
bereal

davinci turns out to be a bit of a card too.

No substitute for Johnboy, but a laugh nevertheless.
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August 21, 2013 7:21pm
thedavincimode

… oh oh .. maybe tha was the Sambuca … hic!

helllp … hic!
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August 21, 2013 7:23pm
Griff

I haven’t got a science degree, but I learned basic physics and chemistry at school (albeit many many years ago), and it defies commonsense (remember that old fashioned concept….. commonsense?) that minute changes in the proportions of an infinitesimal atmospheric gas would have ANY effect on a planet’s climate.

Funny that you have not heard of the green house effect.

Are you totally ignorant?

Co2 is a green house gas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gas
Without co2 we freeze solid. Present global temperature is around 14C without the green house effect it would be -17C this is a discovery that was made in the late 1800’s . As co2 makes up a significant proportion of green house gasses in our atmosphere changing the proportion changes the magnitude of the effect resulting in warming.

pseudo-scientific institutions 😆
Is that how you rate every scientific body in the world ?
Name one actual national scientific institution that doesn’t support AGW .
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August 21, 2013 7:24pm
thedavincimode

I neva likedose curtains … hic!
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August 21, 2013 7:26pm
thedavincimode

… or this kitchen … hic!
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August 21, 2013 7:28pm
Kea

CO2 is a green house gas, not the green house gas. It is an essential gas for plant life, with a much lessor role in contributing to keeping us warm.

Poor old Griff reckons it is trace gases that keep us warm, not the sun 🙂
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August 21, 2013 7:29pm
Kea

Name one actual national scientific institution that doesn’t support AGW .

All of them, that are not paid to support it.
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August 21, 2013 7:30pm
bereal

aw shit, the penny just dropped.

Griff, r u sayin u gave me a thumbs up ?

Awesome mate, i’ll never criticise you ever again.

Jeez, you may even have a point with all that global warming bullshit,
in fact, why can’t these fuckwits understand science when the facts are plain for
all to see.

It was quite hot today for the time of year, you could be on to it bro.
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August 21, 2013 7:30pm
Redbaiter

How about canning the narcissism Kevin?

The bad news is its not all about you.
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August 21, 2013 7:31pm
Kea

I see Red is getting all snotty because he is not center of attention as he hurls abuse in this prog-sewer he calls home 🙂
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August 21, 2013 7:34pm
bereal

seems davinci is hot now too.

You’r winning us over one by one Griff.
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August 21, 2013 7:35pm
thedavincimode

I never cease to be amazed at what can be lured up the berley trail.

Except in that case.
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August 21, 2013 7:36pm
Nookin

I wonder if Judith Collins is likely to receive an apology?
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August 21, 2013 7:38pm
Kea

I never cease to be amazed at what can be lured up the berley trail.

I think you have summonsed a Kraken.
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August 21, 2013 7:38pm
thedavincimode

… farkin hot infact bewyl … hic!

Ba notashot as the galv thash meltin on tha zincaloom roof … hic!
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August 21, 2013 7:40pm
RRM

😕 What fresh hell is this?
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August 21, 2013 7:40pm
Kea

What fresh hell is this?

Red started it. He got all cranky because his husband did not have tea on tonight.
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August 21, 2013 7:44pm
thedavincimode

That’s no Kraken. That’s just a rancid old git fixated by anal sex. More so than all the other people who engage in it.
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August 21, 2013 7:46pm
Kea

thedavincimode, I was hoping he would settle down now he is married.
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August 21, 2013 7:47pm
thedavincimode

RRM

El Guava is picking on me again. Out of the blue, just like that. He reared ( 🙂 ) up from nowhere. Classic stalker behaviour.
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August 21, 2013 7:49pm
thedavincimode

I was hoping he would settle down now he is married.

I think he forgot the “surrender” word and has now just completely lost himself in the morass of 24/7 a***.
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August 21, 2013 7:52pm
RRM

I’ll give you your legally enforced compulsory bum sex if you like, weddy?

Weddy…?

Make sure you irrigate first though. FGS.
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August 21, 2013 7:56pm
Kea

Database of Publicly Accused Roman Catholic Priests, Nuns, Brothers, Deacons, and Seminarians in the United States

This database provides convenient access, for law enforcement and other interested persons, to the names of all U.S. Catholic clergy accused of sexually abusing children and/or possessing child abuse images, commonly referred to as child pornography.

http://bishop-accountability.org/priestdb/PriestDBbylastName-A.html
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August 21, 2013 7:59pm
thedavincimode

That won’t work RRM.

He needs to think you don’t want it.
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August 21, 2013 7:59pm
thedavincimode

… meanwhile, on the other side of the bay, Kea starts cubing pilchards … Looks like he’s fishing 24kg.
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August 21, 2013 8:01pm
nasska

An alcoholic walks into a hardware shop and asks to buy a bottle of meths. The shopkeeper says “I’m not selling you that, I’ve seen you sitting down the park and I know you’re an alkie. You’ll just drink it.”

The bloke says “no, I’ve just started my own decorating business and I need it for my work. People won’t let me forget I used to be a drunk. I’ve turned my life around, but I’ll always be seen as that drunkard, no matter how hard I work”

The shopkeeper says “I’m so sorry. Alright, here’s your bottle of meths.”

The bloke says “you haven’t got a cold one, have you?”
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August 21, 2013 8:04pm
Griff

Kea (6,919) Says:
August 21st, 2013 at 7:29 pm

CO2 is a green house gas, not the green house gas. It is an essential gas for plant life, with a much lessor role in contributing to keeping us warm.

Poor old Griff reckons it is trace gases that keep us warm, not the sun 🙂

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Kea can not argue with facts so resorts to the familiar parrot chess.

In his mind if he compartmentalizes AGW as coming from Griff and does not think about all the scientific body’s I have linked to and the scientifically validated information available from such sources.

Co2 and its green house effect can be measured in the lab kea Are you telling me you dont believe this?
They measure precisely the green house effect of all the constituent green house gasses as they do with solar activity and radiance.
They also have looked into the past climate very carefully .
The overwhelming conclusion of all this research confirms science whose basis was devaloped in the seventy’s .

Summary.The global temperature rose by 0.20C between the middle 1960’s and 1980, yielding a warming of 0.4°C in the past century. This temperature increase is consistent with the calculated greenhouse effect due to measured increases of
atmospheric carbon dioxide. Variations of volcanic aerosols and possibly solar luminosity appear to be primary causes of
observed fluctuations about the mean trend of increasing temperature. It is shown that the anthropogenic carbon dioxide
warming should emerge from the noise level of natural climate variability by the end of the century, and there is a high probability of warming in the 1980’s. Potential effects on climate in the 21st century include the creation of drought-prone regions in North America and central Asia as part of a shifting of climatic zones, erosion of the West Antarctic ice sheet with
a consequent worldwide rise in sea level, and opening of the fabled Northwest Passage.

http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/1974/1974_Somerville_etal.pdf
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August 21, 2013 8:07pm
Kea

Griff, Don’t forget animal farts ( well only if the animals belong to white people in capitalist societies).

One thing all these gasses have in common is they can be reduced by taxes (but only if the taxes come from white people in capitalist societies)
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August 21, 2013 8:14pm
Griff

http://www.grida.no/publications/et/pt/page/2559.aspx
New concerns on the stability of the west Antarctic ice sheet

Increased global temperatures are taking their toll on the Antarctic ice shelves. Here are eight points of concerns regarding the west Antarctic Ice Sheet.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/09/070917-northwest-passage.html

September 17, 2007

The famed Northwest Passage—a direct shipping route from Europe to Asia across the Arctic Ocean—is ice free for the first time since satellite records began in 1978, scientists reported Friday.

The passage is a shortcut between the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans through the Canadian Arctic. It would save valuable time and fuel for ships that now travel through the Suez Canal in Egypt or the Panama Canal in Central America.

Climate models had projected the passage would eventually open as warming temperatures melted the Arctic sea ice—but no one had predicted it would happen this soon.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/19/us-usa-corn-flow-idUSBRE97I0L020130819
(Reuters) – The long reach of last summer’s devastating U.S. drought has reversed the flow of the mighty Mississippi River – for corn, at least, with grain-laden barges beginning the rare movement north to Midwest ethanol plants from southern farms.

The shipments come as the U.S. faces a 17-year low in corn supplies by the end of the month due to the historic drought, which slashed harvests and sent grain prices to record highs a year ago.
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August 21, 2013 8:25pm
Griff

Griff (5,600) Says:
August 21st, 2013 at 5:28 pm
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Hence the genuine derision and contempt I hold AGW denial Wingnuts in.

Wing nuts is because it is politically motivated argument design to preserve our living standard at the cost to future generations.

The third world must give up any chance of attaining our living standard based on burning fossil fuels.
Unfortunately for the Luddites like you and the other wing nuts the third world will probably leapfrog us in renewable technology.
China is already doing well at that.

Rather than the stupid denial future safe policy must be implemented.
That includes zoning of coastal areas that will be subject to sea level rises, Examination of water resources and there vulnerability, Policy to encourage small scale renewable generation rather than the rma’s nimby focus, Encourage a proliferation of more fuel efficient transport including diesel LPG CNG and Electric. Developmental of smart grid, More demand market based domestic electrical pricing. Guarantee of viable energy input tariffs to encourage small scale renewable generation . We need to start thinking of mitigation of the inevitable effects of climate change.

All right wing policy’s that need to get more press as an anecdote to the Luddite greens.
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August 21, 2013 8:54pm
RightNow

“We need to start thinking of mitigation of the inevitable effects of climate change.”

You’re turning into a sceptic.
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August 21, 2013 8:59pm
Griff

I am just pointing out that it is going to get worse a lot worse.

.8C A monotonous regularity in temperature records being broken.

Early projections from the seventy’s coming true.

The effects of our present co2 level 400ppm will continue to alter the earth’s climate over the foreseeable future.

It is projected to give us 2c over the next century. The maximum that the worlds governments have agreed as safe.

The effects of future co2 emission levels before we actually resolve the co2 issue will make this inconsequential.

This is inevitable.

Either we stop emitting co2 eventually or human civilization collapses is also inevitable.
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August 21, 2013 9:18pm
joana

The Invercargill city council has finally cracked down on the dodgy taxi company operating out of a garage at the back of a private property. This is the company which employed the petulant paki taxi driver..The company has been shut down for not having resource consent. Good on ICC for knocking this creeping sharia on the head..Of course the owners are doing the usual bleat…
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August 21, 2013 9:23pm
kowtow

Mohammed ,Prophet of Allah ,liked little girls.

Here’s a story from Britain.

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/10500875.Religious_teacher_from_Blackburn_charged_with_indecently_assaulting_girl/?ref=ar
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August 21, 2013 9:29pm
nasska

Climate alarmists as viewed by the majority ’round here. 🙂

Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lfbl2g4gj3rvrq7/chickenlittle.jpg
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August 21, 2013 9:34pm
Griff

Yes nasska the politics of climate change are very different to the science.
Unfortunately we are being exposed to the conservative stupidity in the usa . As I said the effects are happening and will Only get worse

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Global_warming_denialism
Global warming deniers form a sliding scale of denial which is outlined below – in general these beliefs are designed to prevent action being taken.

1 Not only deny global warming, but insist the opposite is occurring[24] (taken from the Conservapedia homepage). This probably goes beyond denialism and verges on the psychotic.
2 Simply deny global warming is happening[25] – and maintain that no action is necessary – an increasingly uncommon position.
3 Global warming is happening, but it’s not caused by humanity – so we don’t have to do anything.
4 Global warming is happening, and it is in part caused by humanity, but mostly it’s caused by solar activity – so we don’t have to do anything.
5 Global warming is happening, it is caused by humanity, but it may be a good thing[26] – so we don’t have to do anything.
6 Global warming is happening, it is caused by humanity, it is a bad thing, but China and India aren’t doing anything – so we don’t have to do anything.
7 Global warming is happening, it is caused by humanity, it is a bad thing, but even if China and India do something it’s too late for us to do anything and it would cost us a shitload of dough – so we don’t have to do anything.
8 (There is an hypothesized eighth step, “Global warming was happening, it was caused by humanity, it is a very bad thing and previous governments should have done something, but it’s too late now!”)
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August 21, 2013 9:43pm
Fletch

Here is an easy to understand demonstration of just how much Co2 is in the air, and how much is human caused.

Imagine 1 kilometre of atmosphere and we want to get rid of the carbon pollution in it created by human activity. Let’s go for a walk along it.

The first 770 metres are Nitrogen.

The next 210 metres are Oxygen.

That’s 980 metres of the 1 kilometre. 20 metres to go.

The next 10 metres are water vapour. 10 metres left.

9 metres are argon. Just 1 more metre.

A few gases make up the first bit of that last metre.

The last 38 centimetres of the kilometre – that’s carbon dioxide. A bit over one foot.

97% of that is produced by Mother Nature. It’s natural.

Out of our journey of one kilometre, there are just 12 millimetres left. Just over a centimetre – about half an inch.

That’s the amount of carbon dioxide that global human activity puts into the atmosphere.

And of those 12 millimetres Australia puts in .18 of a millimetre.

Less than the thickness of a hair. Out of a kilometre!

NZ would emit even less.
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August 21, 2013 9:49pm
nasska

By the time the Christians, the Muslims & the Jews are finished knocking the shit out of each other in the Middle East in their forthcoming dress rehearsal for Armageddon, a few extra tons of CO2 will be small bikkies Griff.

Other than that I’m a realist so I’ll run with No. 6. 🙂
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August 21, 2013 9:53pm
Kea

Fletch, yes, mans contribution is lost within the natural variation. Griff really needs to find another hobby.
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August 21, 2013 10:05pm
Griff

Imagine 1 kilometre of atmosphere and we want to get rid of the carbon pollution in it created by human activity. Let’s go for a walk along it.

The first 770 metres are Nitrogen . not a green house gas so irrelevant to the discussion

The next 210 metres are Oxygen. not a green house gas so irrelevant to the discussion

The next 10 metres are water vapour. 10 metres left. water vapor increases with temperature change.

9 metres are argon. Just 1 more metre. not a green house gas so irrelevant To the discussion

A few gases make up the first bit of that last metre.

The last 38 centimetres of the kilometre – that’s carbon dioxide. A bit over one foot.

97% of that is produced by Mother Nature. It’s natural. This is were you are being really stupid. its acknowledged the human contribution to the green house gas co2 is measured as the difference between 280ppm pre the industry revolution to 400ppm now.

We should not do any thing like rabbits fixed in the headlights.
😆
Typical wingnut denial thinking.
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August 21, 2013 10:05pm
Lucia Maria

What about thinking that global warming is a good thing, and that if it’s happening, we should all be out doing the happy dance?

I would really like not have to freeze every winter.
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August 21, 2013 10:09pm
Kea

Griff, it does not matter what we do. Nature produces almost all CO2. Even mans contribution is only releasing CO2 held in natural organic products like oil. Really our contribution is close to zero. Man did not put CO2 in the oil, nature did and nature got that CO2 from the atmosphere. Trees breath in CO2. It is all released when the tree dies. That is how nature works Griffy. Accept it and move on. White capitalist people in industrial societies did not invent CO2.
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August 21, 2013 10:10pm
Kea

Lucy, I will give you cuddles if you get too cold 🙂

No use asking po-faced Griff for cuddles. He will sternly advise you that more essential plant food and warm temperatures, like in the tropics where an amazing array of food grows all year, is a bad thing.
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August 21, 2013 10:13pm
Fletch

Here’s another similar version which has been posted here before (took me awhile to find it)

If one imagines a length of the Earth’s atmosphere one kilometre long, 780 metres of this are made up of nitrogen, 210 are oxygen and 10 metres are water vapour (the largest greenhouse gas). Just 0.38 of a metre is carbon dioxide, to which human emissions contribute one millimetre. Australia’s share of this is 0.015 of a millimetre, the breadth of a human hair, to reduce which Gillard is about to inflict on her country’s economy damage costing billions of pounds a year.

The above written by Christopher Booker.
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August 21, 2013 10:14pm
RightNow

Griff: “Either we stop emitting co2 eventually”

You first.
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August 21, 2013 10:15pm
Griff

Mass group think denial based on, in the majority of cases. political expediency and greed.

I am not alarmist I am only repeating the official government and similar positions.

The reality I see reading the actual science is often far more disturbing than I post.

The new IPCC report will up the certainty to 95% that AGW has and will continue to happen.

http://climatecommission.gov.au/report/off-charts-extreme-january-heat-2013/
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=81870
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/19/us-usa-corn-flow-idUSBRE97I0L020130819
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/06/05/forest-service-chief-to-congress-climate-change-is-responsible-for-all-of-these-wildfires-you-know/

These things are real and are effecting us now.
Denial is neither rational or productive.
Being right wing is not defined by being an anti science wingnut.
Its is frustratingly stupid futile and pathetic. 🙁
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August 21, 2013 10:23pm
Kea

RightNow, No Griff will not go first. He will never give up his Co2 emitting ways. The only reason BIG OIL takes the stuff out of the ground is because people like Griff use it. If he really believed all the crap he talks he would stop using the products that support BIG OIL.
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August 21, 2013 10:24pm
Kea

Griff, being left wing or caring about the environment or being interested in alternative energy, is not defined by faith in AGW theory. Works both ways.
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August 21, 2013 10:26pm
Griff

Kea (6,926) Says:
More unthinking rubbish from Mr parrot
Do you know what the climate was like when most of this hydrocarbon resource was sequestered?
A hint can be found here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anoxic_event

Oceanic anoxic events or anoxic events occur when the Earth’s oceans become completely depleted of oxygen (O2) below the surface levels. Although anoxic events have not happened for millions of years, the geological record shows that they happened many times in the past. Anoxic events may have caused mass extinctions.[1] These mass extinctions include some that geobiologists use as time markers in biostratigraphic dating. It is believed[2] oceanic anoxic events are strongly linked to lapses in key oceanic current circulations, to climate warming and greenhouse gases.

We are going to add the carbon not from one of these events but many of them at once.
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August 21, 2013 10:36pm
Griff

faith in AGW theory
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Still the stubborn inability to face the scientific consensus. Still the failure to understand the significance of an accepted theory in science
A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of knowledge that has been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experimentation.[1][2] Scientists create scientific theories from hypotheses that have been corroborated through the scientific method, then gather evidence to test their accuracy. As with all forms of scientific knowledge, scientific theories are inductive in nature and aim for predictive and explanatory force.[3][4]

Still an unmitigated fantasist .
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August 21, 2013 10:45pm
Griff

Nuclear will save us

The Japanese nuclear watchdog on Wednesday said they are taking the leakage of highly radioactive water at the crippled Fukushima nuclear power plant seriously, and proposed raising the rating to describe it from “an anomaly” to a “serious incident.”

The operator of the plant said about 300 tons (300,000 liters, 80,000 gallons) of contaminated water has leaked from one of hundreds of steel tanks around the wrecked Fukushima Dai-ichi plant. Tokyo Electric Power Co. hasn’t figured out how or where the water leaked, but suspects it did so through a seam on the tank or a valve connected to a gutter around the tank.

Or fry us quicker. 😆
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August 21, 2013 11:13pm
Rowan

flipper (2,214) Says:
August 21st, 2013 at 11:40 am
Griff (5,580) Says:

August 21st, 2013 at 11:25 am
*****

“Still the same Serial Liar are you not Griff?
Come to think of it, you might be masquerading as ” wikiriwhis business”….

But that would also confirm that you are a serial liar. There is nothing worse here, except perhaps you when you on your substance of choice. What is that substance today, Griff or wikiriwis?
PCP? Weed? Crack?”

Good post Flipper
One minor correction, there is by far at least one far worse serial liar/ Mason Clinic escapee here than Griff and that is the retarded fruit loop ‘muggins’ whose 4.08 along with regular fertiliser posted throughout KB (mainly on Bain threads) makes him by far the worst liar and troll on KB.
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August 21, 2013 11:19pm
cha

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Do the Earth’s volcanoes emit more CO2 than human activities? Research findings indicate that the answer to this frequently asked question is a clear and unequivocal, “No.” Human activities, responsible for a projected 35 billion metric tons (gigatons) of CO2 emissions in 2010 (Friedlingstein et al., 2010), release an amount of CO2 that dwarfs the annual CO2 emissions of all the world’s degassing subaerial and submarine volcanoes (Gerlach,2011)

http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/hazards/gas/climate.php
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August 21, 2013 11:59pm
Manolo

A traitor gets 35 years: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/judge-to-sentence-bradley-manning-today/2013/08/20/85bee184-09d0-11e3-b87c-476db8ac34cd_story.html?hpid=z1
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August 22, 2013 6:24am
Manolo

Even the Left has its doubts:
http://www.salon.com/2013/08/21/camille_paglia_it_remains_baffling_how_anyone_would_think_that_hillary_clinton_is_our_party%E2%80%99s_best_chance/
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