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Don the Kiwi

Oops. Some other topic must have gotten in the way 🙂
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August 19, 2013 8:10am
Keeping Stock

Question for the day – is Richie McCaw the greatest-ever All Black?

http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2013/08/captain-fantastic.html
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August 19, 2013 8:12am
Longknives

This moron continues to make headlines

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/9057733/Collins-abuses-hospital-staff

A couple of mates tell me saw him abusing people and challenging them to fights on Queen Street a few weeks ago….
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August 19, 2013 8:15am
Colville

KS, He gave away a lot of silly penalties on Saturday night…
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August 19, 2013 8:16am
iMP

A load of bull for Christchurch? The Parekowhai bull on a piano debate…

http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2013/08/19/should-bull-on-a-piano-2-come-to-christchurch/
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August 19, 2013 8:22am
nickb

Amazing behaviour given Vancegate:

http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2013/08/is-peter-dunne-a-fool-or-a-silly-old-fool/#axzz2cM1qRd90

Good comment by sidey:

Steve (North Shore): I disagree, I don’t think Pete George is Peter Dunne, I think he’s actually a plant working against Dunne. A sleeper agent perhaps, recently awoken.

If he hadn’t popped up here to provide some ammo for the Whale Gunners, this post might have had a few tut-tut comments, then we would have all moved on. Now it’s dragged out to 63 comments & rising, around 50% pointing out how silly Dunne has been in the circumstances, the other 50% PG trying to convince us that Dunne has the perfect right to act like a knob, while employed by taxpayers, with nary a harsh word to spoken agin’ him.

Same at DPF’s online house – endless posts by PG dragging out Dunne’s misdeeds waaaay longer than they to be, feeding them oxygen, increasing the possible Google Search hits for Dunne to enjoy for eternity.

Must be working against Dunne. It’s hard to see how PG leaping into the fray repeatedly can possibly be assisting Dunne. PG had gone a bit quiet after announcing his attempt to bore an entire city to death, but is now back to his frenetic defence (or not…?) attempts. A true wannabe polly – any publicity…
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August 19, 2013 8:25am
Keeping Stock

His timing was all wrong in the first quarter of the match Colville; he may have been trying too hard. But the deeper the match went, the better he became.
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August 19, 2013 8:25am
flipper

KS…
Yep. absolutely correct
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August 19, 2013 8:31am
Manolo

Speculation that the email exchanges between the two were beyond ‘just business’ persists as the man minister is a silly old fool, and the woman journalist…

Is Peter Dunne a fool or a silly old fool?

Without any doubt: the whore is both.
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August 19, 2013 8:32am
Manolo

Brace yourself for another rumble: http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/9057653/Experts-predict-another-big-jolt-in-the-next-week
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August 19, 2013 8:35am
nickb

Question for the day – is Richie McCaw the greatest-ever All Black?

Cue big bruv arrival in 3…2…1…
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August 19, 2013 8:37am
Manolo

@Warmist Griff: Be careful, very careful: http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/9057677/Stoned-drivers-targeted-in-safety-campaign
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August 19, 2013 8:40am
hj

Detroit’s lessons…..Joseph Stiglitz ponders
“At one level, one might shrug: companies die every day; new ones are born. That is part of the dynamics of capitalism. So, too, for cities. Maybe Detroit and cities like it are just in the wrong location for the goods and services that 21st-century America demands.

But such a diagnosis would be wrong, and it’s extremely important to recognize that Detroit’s demise is not simply an inevitable outcome of the market.

For one, the description is incomplete: Detroit’s most serious problems are confined to the city limits. Elsewhere in the metropolitan area, there is ample economic activity. In suburbs like Bloomfield Hills, Mich., the median household income is more than $125,000. A 45-minute drive from Detroit is Ann Arbor, home of the University of Michigan, one of the world’s pre-eminent hubs of research and knowledge production.

Detroit’s travails arise in part from a distinctive aspect of America’s divided economy and society. As the sociologists Sean F. Reardon and Kendra Bischoff have pointed out, our country is becoming vastly more economically segregated, which can be even more pernicious than being racially segregated. Detroit is the example par excellence of the seclusion of affluent (and mostly white) elites in suburban enclaves. There is a rationale for battening down the hatches: the rich thus ensure that they don’t have to pay any share of the local public goods and services of their less well-off neighbors, and that their children don’t have to mix with those of lower socioeconomic status.

– See more at: http://angrybearblog.com/2013/08/detroits-lessons-joseph-stiglitz-ponders.html#sthash.gB0vzG3o.dpuf

so what is the right wing plan to finance infrastructure for new development (to facilitate the governments population growth policies)? Issuing bonds… South Auckland bonds will need a taxpayer guarantee?
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August 19, 2013 8:46am
labrator

I’m not really following it other than seeing headlines in passing but has there actually been a legitimate race in the America’s Cup yet? Seems like everything has been won by the other team not showing up, breaking down or being eliminated on a technicality. I saw the “Lean With Us” ads run by Toyota for the first time last night. They must regret that sponsorship agreement, a company built on reliability supporting the least reliable racing ever.
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August 19, 2013 8:53am
dime

“Question for the day – is Richie McCaw the greatest-ever All Black?”

Mate, im starting to think hes the greatest living new zealander. his performance saturday night was unbelievable.
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August 19, 2013 9:08am
hj

Expert round-up: what lessons can be learned from Detroit’s bankruptcy?
Read our panel’s views on what happened in Detroit, and how UK councils’ can avoid something similar occurring
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Detroit says nothing at all about the limits of localism: In Britain, we have surely reached the very limit of centralism. The core of Whitehall has so many powers it cannot realistically use them effectively. Cities and city regions offer a good basis for a step towards devolution, which would allow (modest) risk-taking by their leaders. City leadership has already worked well in Manchester, Newcastle and Leeds. The London model, with partial devolution, has prospered. Why not allow more experimentation and locally-determined investment.
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There are many things preventing UK cities from “doing a Detroit”, particularly around budgeting: The scale and scope of what US cities are expected to fund is very different to our own. However, the basic ingredients [for a similar situation] are there — Liverpool, for example, has seen a similar level of population decline over the last 50 years (about 47%).

http://www.theguardian.com/local-government-network/2013/aug/14/lessons-learned-from-detroit-bankruptcy
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August 19, 2013 9:08am
103PapPap

Just heard that Joe Karam is off to Scotland Yard – he has photographic proof that Robin Bain killed Lady Dinah …
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August 19, 2013 9:15am
iMP

Australian Federal Elections as Game of Thrones (Seats). Hilarious.

http://conzervative.wordpress.com/2013/08/19/australia-as-game-of-thrones-6/
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August 19, 2013 9:42am
Longknives

“Mate, im starting to think hes the greatest living new zealander. ”

Surely Joe Karam is the greatest living New Zealander?? An All Black AND managed to persuade half the Country that Robin Bain shot himself before wiping the rifle clean…
No mean feat!
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August 19, 2013 9:54am
Left Right and Centre

dime 9:08 am Fuck man – it’s just fucking rugby dude. Greatest living nzder? I’m blowing the whistle for full-time on that kind of crazy talk…..

Did you ever start the paleo or just flag it?

After the failed LCHF experiment I finally got a golden reading again last night. Took 18 days to recover. Don’t often celebrate after reading the scales but that was fucking awesome.
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August 19, 2013 10:32am
dime

LR&C – Its comments like that which lead to young girls attacking you! Richie is the GREATEST i tells ya! even greater than the mighty KAINO.

Paleo – I was researching it.. all geared up.. the more i read, the more i thought – fuck that looks boring! So at the moment im eating clean… will write out an eating plan sometime this week and maybe start next monday. I think two weeks, strict as. see how my energy levels are on it..
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August 19, 2013 10:38am
Judith

Longknives (2,806) Says:
August 19th, 2013 at 9:54 am
“Mate, im starting to think hes the greatest living new zealander. ”

Surely Joe Karam is the greatest living New Zealander?? An All Black AND managed to persuade half the Country that Robin Bain shot himself before wiping the rifle clean…
No mean feat!

Not wanting to turn this into a Bain argument, but your statement is factually incorrect. The rifle used in the Bain killings was not wiped clean. If it had been there would have been no fingerprints found on it. There were at least 9 fingerprints found in blood (excluding the fingerprints of Stephen Bain, and the Prints of David Bain that were not in blood).

Had the rifle been wiped, those extra 9 prints, would have not have been recognisible as prints by their ridging detail. They were, but for legal reasons, because there were not 8 points of identification they could not be used in court, and so the police threw them away.
🙂 just keeping it honest!
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August 19, 2013 10:39am
Left Right and Centre

Hoping that physical activity works:

start off 80.7kg low reading…. run 10km, piss around swinging at the punchbag, seated squats 87kg x 10 sets of 10 reps, go into town and try to dance some fat off. Subsist on mostly raw carrot and tinned tomato and cups of tea. Hide from kitchen in bedroom half a day. Get up and prepare to be burnt by the scales as per usual and more painful waiting…..

Make the weight, 79.7!! Wait even longer… weigh again… 1.1 kilo under golden line 78.9!! Celebrate by baking biscuits and ginger crunch.

Off day with the baking… not the greatest results. I did manage to pick up the skill for dipping biscuits in melted dark chocolate and dessicated coconut. Works a treat, couldn’t look better… and the bonus that it covers up any flaws. Easy to add visual appeal for minimum effort by using say 100s/ 1000s, choc sprinkles or finely chopped nuts etc.

Enough carbs now to run to Africa….. perfect Wellington weather….

I find this very hard to believe… but there’s seven biscuits and ginger crunch left untouched. I’ve had my fill. A year ago I probably would’ve scoffed the lot in nothing flat. Instead of just most of it in nothing flat. Time to pay the piper… 10km run minimum.
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August 19, 2013 10:56am
joana

The bint in Ak or Hamilton wanting to be the first muslim women holding office in NZ should get out more..And stop making the whole story about herself..on wait she is a muslim..of course , it is all about herself..
I am fairly sure there has already been two muslim women elected to councils or boards in CHCH..Yawn..
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August 19, 2013 10:58am
Manolo

How unfair to single him out! http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/18/glenn-greenwald-guardian-partner-detained-heathrow
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August 19, 2013 11:00am
Left Right and Centre

dime 10:38 am Dieting of any description is hell on earth fella. We probably had the exact same blink blink reaction to looking at the paleo terms and conditions. They’re freaks!! They’re one step above a feeding tube of plain nutrients for a coma patient.

All roads lead to Rome so a lot of good dieting strategies happen to coincide with paleo anyway. I use that as a bit of a guide but I’m not giving up sugar or anything else totally. That’s a living death… forget it.

The human body is a see-saw…. one end is always up in the air. Which end is up is the only question. It’s one shitty option or the other. Good figure or good food. One form of prison sentence or another. I got my gold standard reading… shit… it’s like being given parole as long as you don’t visit the forbidden foods for anything longer than the odd conjugal visit.
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August 19, 2013 11:05am
Akaroa

OK. A little late entering the lists this morning I guess, but I had to bring this subject into play.

(OK, so i get no takers or a bunch of red marks. So what!)

No, the subject intriguing me today is the revival of that ol’ chestnut, “Who Killed Princess Di – and Why?”

I see that, following some information that has evidently recently surfaced, the latest explanation gaining favour amongst the chattering and conspiracy-theory classes is that: “Di’s death was a British SAS operation”. Woo-hoo!! Is there no end to the imaginative theorising of people who say. “It couldn’t have just been a traffic accident! Could it?”

Well, here’s my theory, based on 30 plus years in the British and NZ military and having rubbed shoulders with Paras and SAS in Belfast for a year, plus – and, don’t mock this – troopship travel with SAS guys from UK to Singapore back in the day.

The way these latest ‘revelations’ emerged was probably out of idle chat/debate/discussion – call it what you like – in Other Ranks Clubs, Senior NCO’s Messes and Officers Clubs and Messes. I have to say that the theme of ‘What REALLY Happened in ….” is a common one in those environments where idle chat over the glasses and tankards is the norm.

I’ve heard so many!! What REALLY happened in Kosovo/Belfast/Londonderry/the Gulf etc., etc.. Given the – IMHO – appalling inability of the regular press to be accurate in their reporting, plus the natural inclination of Service people to keep contentious subjects in-house, its no wonder that myths and exaggerations sometimes gain currency in sections of the media.

And such is what I consider to be this latest ‘What really happened to Princess Di’ story. BUT! And its a big but, when a fable/myth/story about a personality as important and well known as the Princess gains currency, then it has to be addressed, either to substantiate or dismiss it as (probably boozy) conjecture.

I know where I’d be putting my money!!
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August 19, 2013 11:10am
Left Right and Centre

dime 10:38 am Oct-Dec I was running, lifting, punching every day on a big energy deficit. Losing a kilo every 6-7 days. Think about how some of the Holocaust survivors did it tough and made it out alive when they should’ve been dead from malnutrition, beatings, overwork, cold, disease and death marches. Makes anything else seem like a cakewalk!!

I’m fairly certain you won’t start fainting.
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August 19, 2013 11:14am
Redbaiter

Yep, last Wednesday a whopping 11.8 million people rocked up to see what was going down in the bayou at the Robertson’s household.

You just know that kind of success has got to make miserable the dainty, little, progressive crowd who are trying legislatively and culturally to peel America away from the pro-God-and-country values that the cast of Duck Dynasty showcases with hairy-chinned hilarity.

Indeed, without a sex tape; without shoving transvestites down our throats; without lauding rank, familial dysfunctionalism; or parading feral children of the corn, or mocking God, or having sex on camera for their grandparents to see, or selling moonshine, or being naked and afraid, or having their children yell, “F— you!” at their parents during church, America has voted with their time and with their cash that they would rather watch the Duck Commanders move through their day than watch the cultural chum slick that Hollywood dishes up, ad nauseum, et infinitum.

http://townhall.com/columnists/douggiles/2013/08/18/duck-dynasty-the-progod-guns-family-and-capitalism-reality-show-rules-the-ratings-roost-n1667049?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl
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August 19, 2013 11:14am
Judith

@Akaroa

I just feel really sorry for her sons to have to go through all this again, and what if it is true? They are both in the military – it won’t be easy for them. I am hoping there is nothing in it.
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August 19, 2013 11:17am
Redbaiter

“Good comment by sidey:”

Maybe but that oily coward Petal is one of the biggest crawling and disgusting Whale sycophants on the net.
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August 19, 2013 11:28am
Jack5

Kyle Chapman this year is again a candidate for to become Mayor of Christchurch. The prominent ex-skinhead has a controversial past that can be read about on Wikipedia (it alleges clean-slate confessions in 1995 of politically motivated arson attacks between 1987 and 1992 on education buildings and homes of known sex offenders). Since that time he has trained a a social workers and worked with young people, but more recently created the Right Wing Resistance group.

Chapman isn’t the most unusual mayoral candidate. That would be Michael (Tubby) Hansen, who has been standing as a candidate for electorates in general elections, for health boards, and for council offices for at least 40 years, and probably has lost his deposit each and every time. In one of his first electoral campaigns he won brief notoriety for his urging that NZ migration policy be reshaped with the prime aim of enticing Swedish single women to settle in this country.

Hansen at past council elections has advocated Christchurch council allow pigs to be kept as pets and replace metal bus-stop seats with wooden ones. He also has in some of his campaigns expressed concerns about the unhealthy rays he thinks bombard the city.

If past elections are any indication, the Christchurch Press will all but ignore Hansen, who got about 160 votes at the last election. This is understandable but a little hypocritical given the other weirdos who get in its columns from time to time. I don’t think Chapman stood for mayor at the election last time, but Wikipedia says he stood twice before that, once as the National Front Candidate. I think Chapman obtained something like 300 votes.

Judging by the acreage given to a same-sex marriage pair in the Press on Saturday (and in Kiwiblog today), these two would get pages and pages of coverage if they were able to announce today that they were marrying other men.
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August 19, 2013 11:39am
Left Right and Centre

10:38 am

LR&C – Its comments like that which lead to young girls attacking you!

haha…. as usual if I’d kept my mouth shut rather than telling some stupid bitch what a stupid bitch she is… I would’ve been fine.

I was hanging out with ‘the future of the country’… random early twenties street people… and said young woman walks along and starts bleating that three weeks ago one of the ‘fine young gentlemen’ – ‘Zenith’ is his name… ‘ruined’ her birthday because he had the audacity to request payment for a balloon animal instead of just giving it to her.

She’s at the age where people are most likely to be of the ‘me, me, me, me, me’ mentality. This was 100% obvious within one second of her presence.

I actually kept quiet initially and watched on as she wouldn’t let up about how this young fella had ‘wronged’ her…. ‘ruined’ her birthday…. how did he do that again? He sells balloon animals. And ‘should’ve’ given her one for free. I actually took myself by surprise by bothering to say anything to her. I started off by saying that there’s people in this world going hungry and living with disease, and you’re worried about a fucking balloon animal. And then I very calmly and collectively summed her up and told her exactly what I thought of her and her ‘problems’… coherently and in a controlled manner. And of course puffed up blowhard full of themselves immature little white girls don’t like it when they cross paths with someone who can hit the nail on the head and string words together in the process in a sober well-spoken manner. I called her a spoilt little white bitch. Obnoxious. Ignorant.

You know…. just like I might be on KB… only face to face. You really had to be there to experience the youth of today for yourself. The young fella with the balloon animals, although bright, wasn’t yet equipped with life experience to articulate much of a response to her bratty antics. But *I* sure as hell was. Old age has an upside!!
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August 19, 2013 11:50am
Pete George

Interesting ratings for Campbell Live last week. They pushed and pushed and pushed their anti-GCSB campaign – and pushed viewers away. They had some of their worst average ratings all year.

The only really significant change was on Friday, when their GCSB road crew happened to arrive in Seddon just after the earthquake and they had good coverage of that.

Campbell has the end of his GCSB road rage show tonight and the results of his horribly unscientific poll.

He might get some viewers back later in the week.

Throng has the details: Act of God revives Campbell Live’s ratings
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August 19, 2013 12:00pm
Pete George

Throng link that works: http://www.throng.co.nz/2013/08/act-of-god-revives-campbell-lives-ratings/
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August 19, 2013 12:25pm
Jack5

The Sri Lanka campaign against NZ (Fonterra) milk products seems to be continuing (link below).

If it sticks, let’s in NZ have a campaign: drink Kenya tea, not Ceylon tea. (Yep, they still call it Ceylon in tea promotion, I think).

The Sri Lanka campaign:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/dairy/9059003/Injunction-stops-Fonterra-selling-in-Sri-Lanka
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August 19, 2013 12:26pm
dime

“They’re one step above a feeding tube of plain nutrients for a coma patient.” lol good call.

“hink about how some of the Holocaust survivors did it tough and made it out alive when they should’ve been dead from malnutrition, beatings, overwork, cold, disease and death marches.” – ive always used that as a theory on weight loss. these giant fatties who “just cant lose weight”. didnt see many fatties coming out of concentration camps.
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August 19, 2013 12:52pm
dime

Redbaiter – its interesting to see the success of that show. Personally id never watch it, but i dont do reality tv.

the market in the US for more conservative shows is huge. just look at the ratings of the bible mini series. that was created by the dude who did survivor, the apprentice etc he is smart enough to know there is a market for it.
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August 19, 2013 12:55pm
Kea

dime, yes you are right. The notion that if you don’t eat enough the body just, shuts down, is clearly bullshit. Your metabolic rate may decrease, but you will lose weight if you eat less. Anyone who can prove otherwise will receive a Nobel Prize and will solve the worlds energy needs forever. It would turn our understanding of physics upside down.
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August 19, 2013 12:57pm
Redbaiter

“Redbaiter – its interesting to see the success of that show. Personally id never watch it, but i dont do reality tv. ”

The point is that as I have been trying to say here for some years, the social trend is away from Progressivism and the nihilistic squalor it promotes, yet know nothing sister loving back country hillbillies and their giggling squealing sodomite buddies just won’t acknowledge it.
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August 19, 2013 1:10pm
Nookin

Cue Reid for an explanation on the resolving the cognitive dissonance likely to be experienced by this jury.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/9060129/Alleged-thieves-beaten-thrown-in-river
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August 19, 2013 2:05pm
dime

PG – what does that tell you?

It tells me that nomal people dont really care about the GSCB. Its a beltway and political nerd issue.

Maybe you didnt need to push it so hard yourself 😉
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August 19, 2013 2:06pm
wikiriwhis business

The Man Who Changed Iceland – A Message For The US & Greece
August 17, 2013 by Joe Martino

The man who forced the government of Iceland to resign and removed the IMF representatives from his country, Hordur Torfason, is now teaching meta-modern democracy throughout Europe. The rest of the world would benefit from following the example set by Iceland: Arresting the corrupt bankers who are responsible for the current economic turmoil.

Iceland’s president explained how his country recovered so quickly from the recession: “The government bailed out the people and imprisoned the banksters — the opposite of what America and the rest of Europe did.”

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/08/17/the-man-who-changed-iceland-a-message-for-the-us-greece/
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August 19, 2013 3:21pm
Manolo

Softer than a soft pillow. Madness from some Australian authority: http://www.news.com.au/national-news/jailed-asylum-seeker-wins-stay-in-australia-as-refugee/story-fncynjr2-1226699498509
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August 19, 2013 3:41pm
muggins

Judith,
Not wanting to turn this thread into an argument as to whether David Bain is guilty or not, but that rifle was wiped down because blood was smeared all over it.
And just because when tests were done three years later no blood was found under David Bain’s fingerprints it does not follow they were not in blood.
In the Bain/Binnie interview Bains’ best notion was that those fingerprints were in animal blood from the summer.

Just keeping it honest.
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August 19, 2013 5:17pm
nickb

Yep, last Wednesday a whopping 11.8 million people rocked up to see what was going down in the bayou at the Robertson’s household.

Looks interesting Red, but unfortunately I don’t think my girlfriend is going to be converted from Keeping up with the Kardashians. Prog airhead.

🙂
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August 19, 2013 6:12pm
Harriet

“Redbaiter – its interesting to see the success of that show. Personally id never watch it, but i dont do reality tv. ”

All you will ever see in anything progressive is individualistic desires fulfilled. Sex, drugs, food, – the ‘senses’ have now been fulfilled. The end.

The ideology of individualism is dominant over communalism in the West.

Individualism is the idea that the individual need to look after oneself before others. Looking after oneself before others means to serve oneself, rather than others. In other words, the needs of community and family are placed after the self – they are of a lower status than the self. The needs of others are not as important and do not deserve any care, unless, of course, they can benefit the self.

Individualism is selfish. Although people need to look after themselves, the needs of others need to be cared for in pursuing one’s interests. Other peoples ‘sense of worth’ is then fulfilled.

A community is a whole body made up of different parts with different functions. It is a lie that there is no such thing as society because we all depend on others to achieve our interests and obtain our needs.

It is not that focusing on helping a certain group of people is wrong. It is that it is selfish to pursue one’s own rights without caring for the needs of others.

The show is successful because it is NOT about individual desires being fulfilled based soley upon just any one or two of the ‘senses’ being satisfied. The show is not immature.
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August 19, 2013 6:21pm
Pete George

dime at 2.06 pm – this is an open access politically orientated blog. I thought sometimes bringing up the political issues of the day, regardless of being beltway, is hardly out of order.

If you don’t want political topics perhaps you’re coming to the wrong place.
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August 19, 2013 6:33pm
nasska

Going by the commenters recommending “Duck Dynasty” I have little doubt that it would be best described as mind bleach for Godnutters & conservatives. Wikipedia has this to state about the lead character:

….”Phil is known for his dislike of modern technology (he proudly admits that he does not own a cellphone or a computer) and his concern that his grandchildren are becoming “yuppies”. Phil also professes belief in the gospel of Jesus Christ.”…..

“Little House on the Prairie” was the moralistic crap that used to bore us all shitless in the 70’s….”Duck Dynasty” is the latest attempt by the conservonutters to supercharge the Tardis. 🙂
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August 19, 2013 6:41pm
Redbaiter

Yep, looks like the writer above who said the show would “make miserable the dainty, little, progressive pcrowd” was spot on. There’s one of them going off on it already and the dumb fucker hasn’t even seen it yet.
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August 19, 2013 6:49pm
Kea

Redbaiter, fancy seeing you hanging around this prog-sewer. I just checked out a bit of the Duck Dynasty online. It is clearly a contrived and over produced pile of artificial garbage. I expected more after reading the comments.
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August 19, 2013 6:55pm
Redbaiter

And there’s another.
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August 19, 2013 6:57pm
Redbaiter

Of course it need to have some mincing gay boy in a lead role before Narsekissa or Kea would give it any credibility.
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August 19, 2013 7:02pm
nasska

But I’m right Baity aren’t I? It’s another desperate attempt by the conservonutters to brainwash a few of the proletariat before your movement dies out. 🙂
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August 19, 2013 7:02pm
Viking2

Doctors in Australia have removed a 10-centimetre fork from inside an elderly man’s penis after a bizarre sexual mishap.

The 70-year-old arrived at the Canberra Hospital emergency department with a bleeding sexual organ.

He told doctors he had inserted the 10cm dining fork into his urethra almost 12 hours earlier in an attempt to achieve sexual gratification.

But the utensil became stuck.

The fork was not visible but doctors were able to feel it from the outside and X-rays showed its position.

Doctors considered several retrieval options before deciding to pull the fork free using forceps and “copious lubrication” while the patient was under a general anaesthetic.

The elderly patient was then sent home.

The medical emergency was so rare the team of three doctors published the case in The International Journal of Surgery last month.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/oddstuff/9060315/10cm-fork-removed-from-mans-penis

Ah the Devils tongue.
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August 19, 2013 7:04pm
RRM

I remember when Baiter used to be all about the Socialiss. The socialiss this, the socialiss that.

Then he suddenly switched to all this “prog” shit.

I think it was about the time National won the election in 2008, and his whole premise for blaming the gubermint for all of society’s ills had to change quite profoundly…

(He’s always been about this week’s fun new buzzword / buzz-curse, but this ‘prog’ shit is different, it’s been a real sea change for him… )
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August 19, 2013 7:05pm
Kea

Red, I suggest you spend waaaaayyyyyyyyyyy more time thinking about mincing gay boys than I do. If you give that program any credibility then you are retarded. It is a pile of shit, typical of US “reality” TV.
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August 19, 2013 7:12pm
Pauleastbay

the market in the US for more conservative shows is huge. just look at the ratings of the bible mini series.

Yep helps if you are functionally illiterate as well because TV always tells the truth , you can keep that opitate of the people beamin’ down the cable and keep ’em all believin’
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August 19, 2013 7:17pm
Redbaiter

“But I’m right Baity aren’t I? It’s another desperate attempt by the conservonutters to brainwash a few of the proletariat before your movement dies out.”

No, you’re wrong and its nothing of the sort. I have only seen five episodes, but there is no preaching or moralising and the only time they usually mention God is in the closing scene of each show which is the family meal, and they say a fleeting grace of about 10 seconds.

The real attraction is the Louisiana lifestyle that includes hunting shooting fishing and blowing things up and examples of what they call redneck ingenuity. (such as the water park that had a ski tow hooked up to the rear wheel of a Chevy pickup.)

As usual you prog hillbilly hick you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.

Its the most popular show on TV by far- so face up to it loser, the prog era that shaped your sick nihilistic socially destructive commie lifestyle is fast drawing to an end.
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August 19, 2013 7:17pm
Viking2

If you start with a cage containing five monkeys and inside the cage, hang a banana on a string from the top and then you place a set of stairs under the banana, before long a monkey will go to the stairs and climb toward the banana. As soon as he touches the stairs, you spray all the other monkeys with cold water.

After a while another monkey makes an attempt with same result … all the other monkeys are sprayed with cold water. Pretty soon when another monkey tries to climb the stairs, the other monkeys will try to prevent it. Now, put the cold water away.

Remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new one. The new monkey sees the banana and attempts to climb the stairs. To his shock, all of the other monkeys beat the crap out of him. After another attempt and attack, he knows that if he tries to climb the stairs he will be assaulted.

Next, remove another of the original five monkeys, replacing it with a new one. The newcomer goes to the stairs and is attacked. The previous newcomer takes part in the punishment…… with enthusiasm, because he is now part of the “team”. Then, replace a third original monkey with a new one, followed by the fourth, then the fifth.. Every time the newest monkey takes to the stairs, he is attacked.

Now, the monkeys that are beating him up have no idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs. Neither do they know why they are participating in the beating of the newest monkey. Finally, having replaced all of the original monkeys, none of the remaining monkeys will have ever been sprayed with cold water. Nevertheless, not one of the monkeys will try to climb the stairway for the banana.

Why, you ask? Because in their minds…that is the way it has always been! This, my friends, is how Parliment operates… and this is why, from time to time: ALL of the monkeys need to be REPLACED AT THE SAME TIME.
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August 19, 2013 7:25pm
nasska

A very subtle way to disguise propaganda it seems to me Baity. In the old days they used to lay on the twee Skydaddy & apple pie crap with a shovel.

Now they’re hiding the rubbish in the story line.

Very clever. 🙂
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August 19, 2013 7:25pm
Pauleastbay

Its the most popular show on TV by far

Its actually the 21st most popular show http://www.tvguide.com/news/most-watched-tv-shows-top-25-2012-2013-1066503.aspx
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August 19, 2013 7:25pm
Kea

the prog era that shaped your sick nihilistic socially destructive commie lifestyle is fast drawing to an end.

Red, so what is it with the daily rants about progs increasingly taking over and destroying society and all things good and decent ?

For the record, I would love to see more hunting, guns, and other real stuff on TV. But that show is too contrived for me to enjoy it.
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August 19, 2013 7:27pm
hj

11% to 89% opposed to GCSB bill on Campbell Live. Also on Campbell live most people they interview are against it. Kind of surprising since everyone they interview seems to have an opinion; I would have though Joe Average would scratch his head and say WTF?
hard to believe people are aware of (say) the law societies argument, whereas they might think “oh well Tame Iti and his mates would have got caught out a bit better..”
Will be interesting to compare other polls.
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August 19, 2013 7:28pm
Viking2

One day an Indian boy asked his father why they have such long names? The dad answers, “Well son whenever a Indian baby is born the father would go outside and name the baby after the first thing he sees… Why do you ask Two Dogs Fucking.”
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August 19, 2013 7:29pm
Redbaiter

“Now they’re hiding the rubbish in the story line.”

Ha ha.

If that was true it would be fucking rich coming from a prog, of the kind that have made every piece of shit coming out of Hollywood for the last fourty years a Goebbels like subliminal promotion of Progressivism.
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August 19, 2013 7:29pm
Kea

Red, you mean the same progs who made Duck Dynasty ?
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August 19, 2013 7:32pm
Colville

Holy shit.
I just got banned from the Standard till after the next exection! for pointing out that they had reprintinted a post from an advertiser verbatim.
Like woooossssshhh credibility gone….

That really sucks…I liked trolling over there….
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August 19, 2013 7:33pm
Redbaiter

“Red, you mean the same progs who made Duck Dynasty ?”

That is what I am saying you tiresome fuckwit. The penny has dropped even in Hollywood but its still got a long way to fall in the backwoods of NZ, where their still frantically scrabbling to prove themselves worthy of joining the “tolerant” club.
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August 19, 2013 7:35pm
Pete George

The most advertised poll ever, seeking an audience. There is a poll comparison:

Oppose/not in favour of GCSB bill or support/in favour of GCSB bill?*

Research NZ random poll: 52% not in favour, 36% in favour (11% don’t know)
Campbell Live self-selecting poll: 89% oppose, 11% support (don’t know not offered as a valid response)

From Grumpollie. GCSB poll – bogus self-selecting poll vs random poll

He also says:

Don’t trust self-selecting polls if you want to accurately measure the views of the general public, or if you’re polling on something you think is important.

Depends on what’s important. In this case trying to false depict public opinion must have been at least understood, if not deliberately used to mislead.
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August 19, 2013 7:43pm
Pete George

Colville – lprent signalled last week he was moving into “ban until after the election” mode.
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August 19, 2013 7:50pm
liarbors a joke

Pete George

No one cares

GCSB is a big wank fest

Beltway don’t care..

B-e-l-t-w-a-y d-o-n-t c-a-r-e..
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August 19, 2013 7:52pm
nasska

Police have confirmed that a man suspected of trying to steal a hay press from a Wairarapa farm was found after he had fallen into it & became trapped.

He is due to be bailed tomorrow.
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August 19, 2013 8:00pm
Harriet

“…..Police have confirmed that a man suspected of trying to steal a hay press from a Wairarapa farm was found after he had fallen into it & became trapped…….He is due to be bailed tomorrow….”

It’d be Ryan or Kea – gathering up straw for all their stupid arguements. 😎
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August 19, 2013 8:07pm
RRM

That Duck Dynasty sounds good!

They can’t possibly cry and bitch behind each others’ backs as bad as the American Chopper dudes…?!

(That’s one thing I’ve noticed about big bearded manly men… the bigger they are, the harder they cry.)
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August 19, 2013 8:23pm
RRM

I can’t believe The Ridges wasn’t more the ratings success it surely deserved to be though.. 🙁

The misadventures of a couple of boring c-list attention whores in Auckland, I used to really hang on every episode of that programme. Not hang in an auto-erotic asphyxiation kind of way either.
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August 19, 2013 8:26pm
nasska

….”Not hang in an auto-erotic asphyxiation kind of way either”…..

Well, I’m glad you could clear that up for us. The previous sentence could have been easily misunderstood. 🙂
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August 19, 2013 8:40pm
Harriet

The Bible is a tv show here in Aus that is doing great in the ratings RRM.

It’ll be in NZ soon enough. 😎
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August 19, 2013 8:42pm
Harriet

I found it on Youtube for you RRM and Nasska and Kea.

Enjoy the reviews and preveiw! 😎

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwcpZRHGIpM&feature=c4-overview&list=UUt_Q-xP9pUFpalCF-e_ZhtA
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August 19, 2013 8:48pm
hj

“Poo-poo Iprent” got me banned from the Standard.
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August 19, 2013 8:52pm
nasska

Don’t think I’ll bother seeing the film Harriet….I’ve just finished reading the book.

Took me a good ten minutes front to back.

Mind you I did skip the rubbishy bits. 🙂
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August 19, 2013 8:53pm
Harriet

oh c’mon nasska you’d enjoy sitting back and noticing that there is no differance in the behaviour of man between then and now.

It’s alll relevent y’know. 😎
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August 19, 2013 9:00pm
Kea

I found it on Youtube for you RRM and Nasska and Kea.

That must be the most censored story ever put to film. If it were not, it would never get past the censors office.

Do they show sobbing rape victims made to marry their attackers ? Non virgin brides stoned to death on their dads doorstep ? Babies dashed to death on rocks in front of their mothers, the genocide, infanticide, slavery ? [all demanded by God]

What about naughty children being killed, along with people who work on Sunday ? And worst of all… eternal torture in hell ?
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August 19, 2013 9:07pm
Harriet

Well it will show one absolute truth Kea – Asians won’t be in it! 😎
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August 19, 2013 9:10pm
RRM

http://youtu.be/KEpS-VzUp7c
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August 19, 2013 9:16pm
Pete George

The town hall in Auckland tonight – Citizen Bomber’s moment of glory, a combined left wing political rally. Mana speech deftly scheduled. Oh, and a bit about the GCSB
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August 19, 2013 9:18pm
nickb

The town hall in Auckland tonight – Citizen Bomber’s moment of glory, a combined left wing political rally. Mana speech deftly scheduled. Oh, and a bit about the GCSB

Kiwiblog most days – Peter Dunne’s moment of glory, a combined centrist political rally. United Future policies deftly scheduled. Oh, and a bit about other political issues.
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August 19, 2013 9:21pm
Left Right and Centre

hj

I would have though Joe Average would scratch his head and say WTF?

WTF?

I’m average joe… I don’t like that John Keys and those National Party… want to sell this country down the river, spy on all of us good honest kiwis, dirty deals with all of his rich mates, in bed with Skycity…. wants to rip holes in our national parks… snug as a bug having a tug in a rug the smug bugger!!

I’d love to know all about the GCSB…. I really would. I’m always asleep by the letter ‘S’.
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August 19, 2013 9:40pm
lilman

Shit Judith I was having good thoughts to you since Elvis became a common bond.
But like all women you had to feck it up .
Have you slept with Baine or something?
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August 19, 2013 9:42pm
Left Right and Centre

nasska 7:25 pm

skydaddy

my skydaddy wears leather and a studded cap with a manbeast mo
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August 19, 2013 9:47pm
Left Right and Centre

and carries a velvet whip and high-heel snakeskin boots and tells me that it’s confession time because I have sinned and pain is the healer
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August 19, 2013 10:26pm
LabourDoesntWork

Credit and price inflation

http://voxday.blogspot.co.nz/2013/08/credit-and-price-inflation.html

Vox quotes Karl Denninger:
The availability of “cheap credit” has made everything from houses to furniture to TVs to cell phones to cars more expensive. Virtually everyone shops a “payment” now instead of a price.
…
Then there’s student loans, as Taibbi recently went off on and which I’ve been covering for years. They are alleged to make college “more accessible.” Nonsense; what they do is enslave young people who are our most-vulnerable due to lack of life experience and being that these debts cannot be discharged except under extraordinary circumstance they’re one of the worst forms of debt slavery.

The truth is that the basic laws of economics tell you that when there are more buyers willing to pay a given price irrespective of how or why the price of that item will tend to rise. This is true whether the thing is a car, a house, health care, college tuition or anything else.

Ultimately this forces anyone who wants said thing to use credit to obtain it as the ability to pay cash dwindles away.

And that, ultimately, destroys the middle class by making the true cost of such pulled-forward demand rise so high that it cannot be afforded at all.

end of quote.

See, the political class hates the middle class and the economically independent. (Leftists constantly identify with losers.) This is why they support interest free student loans. Rhetorically it all sounds good; but reality isn’t ruled by rhetoric. That’s why we’re not living in a Commie Utopia after so many attempts at, and decades of, trying.
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August 19, 2013 11:28pm
Manolo

Seeking revenge: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/08/19/muslim-brotherhood-wages-war-on-christians/
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August 20, 2013 6:21am
Manolo

P.G., one day you’ll realise your hero and master, the aspiring philanderer, is a political corpse.
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August 20, 2013 6:23am
Pete George

Not my hero, not my master. He’s been useful to me, he still could be useful to me. One day he will be a political corpse. But that’s a while away yet.

In the meantime there are more important things to be doing. Actually doing. What would you do? Anything but complain about others?
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